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Chimes of Dunkerque / Chimes of Dunkirk In-reply-to: <01MSUH386NWQ8XF091@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.31 Sender: trad-dance-callers@yahoogroups.com X-Sender: becky4dance@gmail.com To: trad-dance-callers@yahoogroups.com Reply-to: trad-dance-callers@yahoogroups.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list trad-dance-callers@yahoogroups.com Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 Mailing-List: list trad-dance-callers@yahoogroups.com; contact trad-dance-callers-owner@yahoogroups.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 10754689-m11931 X-Apparently-To: trad-dance-callers@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 128.196.195.130 X-Yahoo-Profile: nnkvll X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email-tradt-m X-PMX-Version: 5.4.1.325704, Antispam-Engine: 2.6.0.325393, Antispam-Data: 2008.3.26.101556 X-PMX-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='ECARD_KNOWN_DOMAINS 0, __C230066_P3_1 0, __CP_MEDIA_2_BODY 0, __CP_NAME_BODY 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __FRAUD_419_REFNUM 0, __FRAUD_419_WEBMAIL 0, __FRAUD_419_WEBMAIL_FROM 0, __FROM_GMAIL 0, __HAS_LIST_HEADER 0, __HAS_LIST_UNSUBSCRIBE 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __HELO_YAHOO 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __RDNS_YAHOO 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_PHRASE_24 0, __USER_AGENT 0' List-Unsubscribe: List-Id: Original-recipient: rfc822;WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com; b=rk8pKi2y87Wq4wUqqXSR/5BcxZoPshuh76hmRuStg8Fc+ea0BY8y5bFEPe+miKESo659pjez5VT0LtJ0n9ofQCPxT9qKyxDsURr35x4mnUDG4e6R7IWu8XWjoFa/bmSo; I wrote: > And finally, is your "Chimes of Dunkerque" the same as Howe's "Le > Carillon of Dunkerque", or is it the New England (Amidon) contra dance > adaptation (Chimes of Dunkirk)? I reply to myself: I'm reminded (by looking it up last night!) that the New England adaptation into a longways set is a Dudley Laufman one, spread about by the Amidons and others. I wrote: >> Here's Howe's: "...The music plays the first eight bars, after which each gentleman takes the place of the gentleman to his right, the ladies meanwhile retaining their places. All balance and turn with their new partners, the gentlemen finishing with their faces towards the ladies, and their backs to the centre of the Quadrille. Then all the ladies and gentleman clap their hands three times, and then stamp on the floor three times, and finish by turning round with their new partners. This figure is again begun and repeated until the gentlemen meet with their original partners, after which the ladies perform the figure in the same manner with the gentlemen." >> From other descriptions (e.g. Lloyd Shaw Fndn. online) it looks like >> couples are promenading or otherwise dancing around the square/circle >> while "the music plays the first eight bars"... Alan wrote: > Howe's (although I got it from Gott's "Familiar Dances", sent to me by > my friend James Langdell before I'd read Howe. It's the very same text, > though). > > I rephrased this for calling purposes as: > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Circle of couples facing in, women on the right. > > A1: Men go in front of their partners to take right-hand neighbor's > place. > A2: Men (with neighbor lady) balance and two-hand-turn, finishing with > men facing out, women facing in. > B1: All-clap,clap,clap > All-stamp,stamp,stamp > All-two hand turn current partner, open up facing in. > > This repeats until original partner is reached; then women become active, > going left instead of right. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > and this works, but the active person who's traveling to replace right hand > neighbor has quite a bit of time to do it, so I can understand the impetus > to promenade or something even though it's not suggested in the text, > especially if you're playing a 32-bar version of the tune. > > This works to the music Gott gives for it. I reply: I've found three other versions online. Two have some circling involved: one at the Lloyd Shaw Foundation (which has a lot online that I need to explore!) with no reference to the source, one from a 1916 physical education book, available through Google Books. These both have the clapping and stamping at the start; the Lloyd Shaw version may even have its origins in the Playground Book version. The third is from a ca. 1883 James Scott Skinner manuscript at Aberdeen University, and he says it's an adaptation of the dance. He takes up the first part of the music with bows and a forward into the circle and back. He leaves out the stamping and just has clapping and singing. Here they are. Online at Lloyd Shaw Foundation http://www.lloydshaw.org/Catalogue/CueSheets/Childrens/ChimesOfDunkirk.htm CHIMES OF DUNKIRK French-Belgian Folk Dance LS E-7 [I presume this is either a code for the music recording, or a database label. -BN] Formation: Double circle with partners facing, boys on inside, girls on outside. DANCE Meas. (2 counts per measure; i.e.; 1-2 = 4 counts) Part I 1- 2 All stamp three times; 3- 4 All clap hands three times; 5- 8 Join both hands with partner and turn once around. Part II 9-16 All join hands in a circle and walk to the left 16 steps. Variations for Part II 9-10 All join hands, walk into the center four steps, raising hands upward, 11-12 All back out four steps, bringing hands down, 13-16 Join both hands with partner and turn once around. 9-10 Partners join right hands, shoulder high. Standing on left foot, extend right foot in front of left and tap right toe three times, 11-12 Reverse, tapping with left toe, 13-16 Join both hands with partner, and turn once around. Note: To make the dance progressive, in the variations, boys move to the left to the next girl on Measure 16. -------------------------------------- The Playground Book, by Harry Sperling (1916), online at Google Books, page 28 (condensed by BN) Chimes of Dunkirk (French) Formation: Double circle, partners facing in and out Figure 1 (measures 1-4) Stamp 3 times, clap 3 times "in front of partner's face as if angry" (measures 5-8) two hand turn, move to right to new partner, short curtsey Repeat, except instead of partner change, inside partner moves out to join circle on right of outer partner Figure 2 (measures 9-16) Circle left and right, end with right hand partner on inside facing out. ------------------------------------ Adaptation by James Scott Skinner and William Scott, online from Aberdeen University: http://abdn.ac.uk/scottskinner/display.php?ID=JSS0479 ID JSS0479 Title: The Chimes of Dunkirk Document Reference: MS 3088 Format: 165 x 256 mm, Medium, Handwritten Manuscript Item Description: This excerpt is from a series of notebooks compiled by Skinner and his own dance teacher, William Scott. The notebooks were published under the title, A Guide to Fashionable Dancing. *The Chimes of Dunkirk with chorus. Any number of couples form a circle round the room. The Gentleman having his Lady on the right arm. At the first note of the music the Gentleman makes a low formal bow in front of his partner - His partner makes a low formal curtsey (3 bars and 1 bar for the gentleman to return to his place.) Join hands and advance to centre of dance 1.2.3.4 retire and readvance, upon retiring face the Lady on your left - Your partner face the Gentleman on her right. Strike the palm of the left hand with the fingers of the right (Keeping time to the music) and singing: 'Oh! Listen to the Chimes. Oh! Listen to the chimes.' Turn the Lady you advised to 'listen to the chimes' and during the movement sing: 'The merry, merry chimes of the Dunkirk Bells' Repeat until the Ladies have regained partners. *[Note] In our professional experience we have, on many occasions, been requested to give a dance in which all may join. The re-arranging of the 'Chimes of Dunkirk', the beauty of the music, and the simplicity of the figure has, we trust, reduced it to the capacity of the merest Tyro. The dance has another advantage - viz:- It gives Gentlemen the pleasure of dancing and singing with every Lady in the Room. This is Comme il faut. W.S. + J.S.S. Creator: James Scott Skinner and William Scott Creator Manuscript: James Scott Skinner Publisher: Charles Middleton, Keith Time Period: 1870s-1880s Associated Dates: Creation: c.1880 Associated Dates: Manuscript: c.1883 Associated Dates: Publication: 1884 Location: University of Aberdeen Collection Name: Dance Notebooks Copyright: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/diss/historic/documents/copyright ---------------------------------- Comme il faut, indeed. (If only I spoke any French. :-) ~ Becky Nankivell Tucson, Arizona ------------------------------------ The Traditional Dance Callers List: Subscribe by sending a blank e-mail message (no subject, no message) to: trad-dance-callers-subscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/trad-dance-callers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/trad-dance-callers/join (Yahoo! 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