Susan quoted Ruth: > On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 04:45:14PM -0400, Scodel, Ruth wrote: > > The dance is from one of the books published by Preston and Son. I > > have a source that gives it as Twenty-Four country Dances for the > > Year 1786, but the catalogue I can find lists their first volume in > > 1791. It is, in any case, in print before 1800, and it would be > > interesting to see what it says. The strathspey does not have the > > right-and-left at all: > Thanks for at least naming a source! Since I'm a gambler: > I'll bet $100 that the 18thc figures in Preston (or elsewhere; it's > probably in multiple sources) aren't the same as the modern ones we're > arguing about, even within loose parameters like ignoring the precise > details of how rights and lefts were performed. I don't have Preston or access to Presto, but the LoC website beckons, so here are some Money Musk descriptions from various sources which will be crushingly familiar to Susan. This one is from 1798, so (barely) pre-1800. We've discussed it earlier, because it's the source for the version of "Young Widow" we do in MECD; the Norwich is Connecticut. ----------------------------------- The gentleman & lady's companion; containing, the newest cotillions and country dances; to which is added, instances of ill manners, to be carefully avoided by youth of both sexes ..; Norwich, Printed by J. Trumbull, 1798. No. LIV. Money Mufk Six hands half way round and back, firft and fecond gentlemen bal-ance together and turn round, the 1ft and 2nd ladies do the fame, down the middle, up again, caft off, right and left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Treasures of Terpsichore (Wilson, London, 1816) MONEY MUSK (2 parts repeated) Single Figure. Whole figure at top |: down the middle, up again, and foot it to the top couple |: Double Figure. The top couple swing with right hands round one couple, then with left |: set three across and three in your places |: hands six round and back again |:, and lead through bottom and top |: -- [Alan here: The "Double Figure" version has visible geographic similarities to the modern RSCDS Scottish version up through the last strain (reels of three on sides vs. "lead through bottom and top"), but both of those are standard nonprogressive spacefillers anyway. And while I'm wasting time poking around in 1816, I'm interested to note dance settings for tune names with which I associate dances that are very much other than these suggested figures: Morpeth Rant, Mrs. Casey, Off She Goes, Opera Reel, Roger de Coverly, Soldier's Joy, Speed the Plough, The New Rigg'd Ship, etc.] -------------------------------------------- Link, Charles pub; Unique dancing call book; Rochester, N.Y., C. Link, c1893. MONNIE MUSK Swing once & a half at the head. 4 Forward six. 4 Swing. 3-quarters round. 4 Forward six. 4 Swing to place. 4 Right and left. 8 [APW: Pretty recognizable as the contra-esque version, if you remember that for "swing" here, they'd say "allemande". Interestingly, totals to 28 bars - not the relaxed 32 or the cramped 24.] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Koncen, Mathias J.; Prof. M. J. Koncen's quadrille call book and ball room guide; St. Louis, Press of S. F. Brearley & co. [c1883] THE MONEY MUSK 1. The First couple cross right hands and swing once and a half around. 2. Then go below one couple, forward and back six. 3. Right hand to yoru partner and swing half around, 4. Forward and back, 5. Swing to your places and right and left four. Repeat and so on. --------------------------------------------------------------------- [Several other sources from 1870s forward say the same thing in more or less the same words.] -- Alan -- =============================================================================== Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 =============================================================================== _______________________________________________ ECD mailing list ECD@bacds.org http://www.bacds.org/mailman/listinfo/ecd