Perry Shafran wrote: Don't you think that this will severely limit the fun squares that you can do at a dance? Yes, part of the problem of squares is that they have longer walk throughs for a shorter dance, and while I don't have a problem with shorter square walk thrus, I would hate to see you limit what fun squares you can do just because they require more of a walk through or they are not "contra-like". I write: Seth, thanks for this idea, it's great. Perry, the idea is not to limit the fun of squares, but figure a way to reintroduce them to grumbling contra dancers. As those "grumbling contra dancers," become more familiar with square bearings and figures, one can reintroduce more challenging squares. So, I look at Seth's idea as a transition, not a "never do those other squares" idea. And, I still call the one of first squares I learned to Texas Star. It's everyone active, can be done in versions with little walkthrus, up to versions that need more of a walk thru. Men star left, right While starring: Pick up someone (partner, next) with arm-around (star promenade) STUFF -- below -- Back out and Swing Allemande left just one, promenade the one you swung. STUFF Men Back Out with a full turn about : go one-and-half with a full turn about (Can add to "two-and-a-half", then "three-and-a-half" then "eighty-seven and a half...") Men in the middle: women "twirl" to the gent behind (When I do this, I often, after twice have the men twirl, then, the last time: men back out 1-1/2 women duck in women back out 1-1/2 men duck in women twirl to the gent behind men back out 1-1/2 women duck in men twirl to the woman behind men back out 1-1/2 women duck in women back out 1-1/2 men duck in women twirl to the gent behind men back out 1-1/2 women duck in men twirl to Swing Partner!) Can also do a version I learned from Sandy Bradley: After star promenade: all women (or men) go find another star in another and latch on -- "all over town Texas Star Mixer) And I'm sure there's lots of other "stuff" done in the STUFF section, though to keep it easy, none is necessary. ~ erik hoffman The J. Appleseed Society E-Mail Discussion Lists to nurture the growth of participatory art and cultural activities. The Traditional Dance Callers List: For participatory dance callers, teachers, leaders and interested friends. Subscribe by sending a blank e-mail message (no subject, no message) to: trad-dance-callers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/trad-dance-callers/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/trad-dance-callers/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:trad-dance-callers-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:trad-dance-callers-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: trad-dance-callers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/