who couldn't manage the whole thing. It was great!

Do consider doing it sometime, especially during the yule season (or=20 anytime),

with or without the song. A tempo comment -- On previous = copies=20 of this dance,

I've stated that it might be preferable to do the song at a faster = tempo=20 than that

used for the dance itself. As a Revels singer, I am accustomed = to=20 singing it at a

lively clip, which is fine. Michael sang it at the slower dance= =20 tempo, which was

fine too -- live and learn -- so act according to your own=20 instincts.

If you'd like the music, send me a message offline and I'll send it to= you=20 as an

attachment (which can't be included here). For serious singers = and=20 groups, I have

made up a song sheet in a very convenient format that you might find=20 useful; for a

snail mail copy, do send me a SASE at Sol Weber, 25-14 37th St,= =20 Astoria, NY 11103.

Thanks. Happy dancing (and singing).

Sol

. GOWER WASSAIL -- = English=20 style dance

. Long ways, duple,=20 proper. Waltz, leisurely

Dance, Sol=20 Weber &= nbsp; =20 Tune, trad'l (South Wales)

Recommended dance tempo range, dotted quarter =3D 122 to 126

(approx. 35 seconds per=20 repetition)

A 2 note intro

Meas.

1-2 Facing corner, take hands in circle (in groups of= =20 4);

. =20 BALANCE IN AND OUT

3-4 CIRCLE LEFT , =20 halfway

5-6 MEN LEAD THRU , = between=20 women (Men keep hands)

7-8 MEN =20 CAST around partner (Back to = opposite=20 side)

9-10 Again, take hands in circle, = =20 BALANCE IN AND OUT

11-12 CIRCLE LEFT , halfway

13-14 WOMEN LEAD THRU=20 , between men

15-16 WOMEN =20 CAST around partner (Back to opposite side. =20 Everyone is back home.)

. &= nbsp; &= nbsp; =20 All FACE NEIGHBOR

17-20 Starting with neighbor,= =20 FOUR CHANGES, circular hey (No hands, lively, 3 counts per change)

21-23 ARM =20 RIGHT with neighbor, 1-1/2 X

24 =20 PROGRESS to new neighbor.

. &= nbsp; =20 All =20 FACE NEW CORNER (= First=20 corners, beginning progression on the inside,

. &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; =20 =20 &= nbsp; may=20 FLIP to face in, 3/4 turn to right.)

. &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; (Second=20 corners, beginning progression on the outside, may

. &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; =20 *also* FLIP to face in, 1-1/4 turn to right)(or just 1/4

. &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; =20 turn to to right to face=20 in.) = ; =20

. &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; &= nbsp; (Flips=20 are fun but optional, for those who can do them) &= nbsp;=20

1. a WASsail, a WASsail, thruOUT all this TOWN.

. Our CUP it is WHITE and our ALE it is=20 BROWN.

. Our WASsail is MADE of the GOOD ale and=20 TRUE,

. Some NUTmeg and GINger, it's the BEST we can= =20 BREW

CHORUS Fol the DOL, fol the dol de DOL, fol the dol de DOL,= fol=20 the dol de DEE.

. Fol the DER-o, fol the DAD-dy, sing TU-re-lye-O=20 !!

2. Our WASsail is MADE of he ELderberry BOUGH,

. and SO, my good NEIGHbors, we'll DRINK= unto=20 THOU.

. BeSIDES all on EARTH, you'll have = APples in=20 STORE;

. pray LET us come IN, for it's COLD by = the=20 DOOR, CHORUS

3. There's a MASter and a MIStress sitting DOWN by = the=20 FIRE

. while WE poor wasSAILers do WAIT in = the=20 MIRE.

. And IF we're aLIVE for anOTHER=20 New YEAR,

. perHAPS we may CALL and see WHO do = live=20 HERE, CHORUS

4. We KNOW by the MOON that we ARE not too SOON,

. we KNOW by the SKY that we ARE not too= =20 HIGH,

. we KNOW by the STAR(S) that= we=20 ARE not too FAR,

. we KNOW by the GROUND that we ARE = within=20 SOUND, CHORUS

Sol "Roundman" Weber --- "So many rounds, so little=20 time"
25-14 37 St, Astoria NY 11103, 718-278-4389 (after=20 11am)
SINGERS & musicians, contact me for info on books, albums,=20
& misc. fun items. solweber-AT-juno.com;
web: http://roundz.tripod.com &= nbsp;=20 (DON'T use 'www')

----__JNP_000_7eb1.1bc1.059e-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:08:07 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <7235a3ef0612041607l7c4e922fqe09cb71528da66dc-AT-mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 00:07:51 +0000 From: "Consort de Danse Baroque" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] Workshop: Baroque dance steps in ECD, San Francisco Bay Area MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear list, We hope the following workshop will be of interest: "Step Stately" -- Baroque dance steps in English country dances from the Restoration to the Regency. Weekend of March 17th/18th. San Francisco Bay Area (Mill Valley). Tutor: Philippa Waite. Full details: http://www.ukbaroquedance.com/spring/bayarea.html The workshop will assume no prior knowledge of Baroque dance steps. In case anyone is particularly interested in Baroque dance, Philippa will also be teaching a five-day Baroque dance workshop in Ashland, Oregon, for all levels from total beginner to advanced/professional. Monday, March 26th -- Friday, March 30th. Details: http://www.ukbaroquedance.com/spring/ashland.html Hope to see some of you at one of these workshops. Judy Kennedy. Philippa Waite. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 08:33:14 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:28:37 -0500 Subject: [ECD] : Update, NOT in mime format... GOWER WASSAIL dance, instructions and words 12/06 Message-ID: <20061205.113149.1944.0.solweber-AT-juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Sol Weber Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Once again, NOT in mime format. Sorry..... Yep, a most appropriate dance (and *song*) for the season, as printed in the current CDSS News. A really great tune, that impelled me to write this simple, fun dance. Yesterday (Dec. 3) Michael Cicone called it at the CDNY Yuletide Cotillion, and as a bonus, he taught the song chorus in advance, then sang the verses during the course of the dance, with all of us chiming in for the chorus. (See below, for the song words.) He did emphasize the last phrase of the chorus, for those who couldn't manage the whole thing. It was great! Do consider doing it sometime, especially during the yule season (or anytime), with or without the song. A tempo comment -- On previous copies of this dance, I've stated that it might be preferable to do the song at a faster tempo than that used for the dance itself. As a Revels singer, I am accustomed to singing it at a lively clip, which is fine. Michael sang it at the slower dance tempo, which was fine too -- live and learn -- so act according to your own instincts. If you'd like the music, send me a message offline and I'll send it to you as an attachment (which can't be included here). For serious singers and groups, I have made up a song sheet in a very convenient format that you might find useful; for a snail mail copy, do send me a SASE at Sol Weber, 25-14 37th St, Astoria, NY 11103. Thanks. Happy dancing (and singing). Sol . GOWER WASSAIL -- English style dance . Long ways, duple, proper. Waltz, leisurely Dance, Sol Weber Tune, trad'l (South Wales) Recommended dance tempo range, dotted quarter = 122 to 126 (approx. 35 seconds per repetition) A 2 note intro Meas. 1-2 Facing corner, take hands in circle (in groups of 4); . BALANCE IN AND OUT 3-4 CIRCLE LEFT , halfway 5-6 MEN LEAD THRU , between women (Men keep hands) 7-8 MEN CAST around partner (Back to opposite side) 9-10 Again, take hands in circle, BALANCE IN AND OUT 11-12 CIRCLE LEFT , halfway 13-14 WOMEN LEAD THRU , between men 15-16 WOMEN CAST around partner (Back to opposite side. Everyone is back home.) . All FACE NEIGHBOR B 17-20 Starting with neighbor, FOUR CHANGES, circular hey (No hands, lively, 3 counts per change) 21-23 ARM RIGHT with neighbor, 1-1/2 X 24 PROGRESS to new neighbor. . All FACE NEW CORNER (First corners, beginning progression on the inside, . may FLIP to face in, 3/4 turn to right.) . (Second corners, beginning progression on the outside, may . *also* FLIP to face in, 1-1/4 turn to right)(or just 1/4 . turn to to right to face in.) . (Flips are fun but optional, for those who can do them) 1. a WASsail, a WASsail, thruOUT all this TOWN. . Our CUP it is WHITE and our ALE it is BROWN. . Our WASsail is MADE of the GOOD ale and TRUE, . Some NUTmeg and GINger, it's the BEST we can BREW CHORUS Fol the DOL, fol the dol de DOL, fol the dol de DOL, fol the dol de DEE. . Fol the DER-o, fol the DAD-dy, sing TU-re-lye-O !! 2. Our WASsail is MADE of he ELderberry BOUGH, . and SO, my good NEIGHbors, we'll DRINK unto THOU. . BeSIDES all on EARTH, you'll have APples in STORE; . pray LET us come IN, for it's COLD by the DOOR, CHORUS 3. There's a MASter and a MIStress sitting DOWN by the FIRE . while WE poor wasSAILers do WAIT in the MIRE. . And IF we're aLIVE for anOTHER New YEAR, . perHAPS we may CALL and see WHO do live HERE, CHORUS 4. We KNOW by the MOON that we ARE not too SOON, . we KNOW by the SKY that we ARE not too HIGH, . we KNOW by the STAR(S) that we ARE not too FAR, . we KNOW by the GROUND that we ARE within SOUND, CHORUS Sol "Roundman" Weber --- "So many rounds, so little time" 25-14 37 St, Astoria NY 11103, 718-278-4389 (after 11am) SINGERS & musicians, contact me for info on books, albums, & misc. fun items. solweber-AT-juno.com; web: http://roundz.tripod.com (DON'T use 'www') ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:02:06 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <43D6BE9F-3C66-4EFD-B602-4D477744A390-AT-earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: ECD From: "Ed St.Germain" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] help needed for colonial song/dance Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 22:02:01 -0800 List: I received the subjoined message from someone in need of help. I submitted what little I know, and thought some on the list might be able to offer further advice. As for the last question Challe asked, I already told her to sign up for this list. Best regards, Ed St.Germain ************************************************** Colonial Christmas songbook From: "Challe Hudson" challe-AT-alumni.unc.edu challehudson Date: Tue Dec 5, 2006 10:23 am ((PST)) I'm trying to put together a "Colonial Christmas Party" for a group of 4H History Club homeschool students. The kids are mostly elementary, with a few middle schoolers, and some preschoolers also tag along with big siblings. Does anyone have experience planning something like this? Any websites you'd recommend? I won't have a historic site, just a modern church building to decorate. If I serve a meal (which I am considering) I'll have help cooking it, but I've got to plan the menu and come up with recipes. Advice? I plan to lead plenty of singing, but I'm still struggling to figure out which songs to lead. Does anyone have advice about period songs that are still sung today? (I've been reading all the footnotes in the Oxford Book of Carols trying to figure this out. I can find lots of period tunes that weren't translated into English until the 19th century, and lots of period texts that weren't set to the music we know until the 19th century, but few that have both.) I also plan to teach some basic English Country dancing. I want to toss holly on a bonfire for good luck, and perhaps we'll pretend to shoot into the trees -- are there any other really good Christmas or Solstice traditions from Colonial America? I know (from reading Colonial Williamsburg's site) that Christmas was really for the adults, but I'm making do with what interested people I can find here, and they all just happen to be about 12 years old and younger. (No fox hunts or formal balls, sorry, I can't pull that off.) Which makes me wonder...are there good discussion lists for dancers or musicians? Thanks! Challe Hudson ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:26:08 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "allisonthompson-AT-juno.com" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:24:11 GMT To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] help needed for colonial song/dance Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J41c6.167eS.2781M" Message-ID: <20061206.052502.803.203103-AT-webmail52.nyc.untd.com> ----__JWM__J41c6.167eS.2781M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain As I understand it, Charlie should have the kids go to school as usual o= n Xmas Day and say their catechism and then the girls can go slop the pi= gs as usual and the boys can join the men in firing guns and blowing hor= ns and terrorizing householders into giving them pennies, food and whisk= ey. As Stephen Nissenbaum's excellent book, The Search for Christmas, shows,= the holiday as we know it wasn't invented until the early 1820s. Prior = to that time, in New England at least, it was an ordinary day (except fo= r the rough music) and, indeed, for some period of time, any sort of cel= ebration was subject to fines in Massachusetts. I expect things were mor= e lax and slightly more festive in Virginia, but the holiday was not muc= h celebrated in colonial times. Too bad. Allison -- "Ed St.Germain" wrote: List: I received the subjoined message from someone in need of help. I submitted what little I know, and thought some on the list might be able to offer further advice. As for the last question Challe asked, I already told her to sign up for this list. Best regards, Ed St.Germain ************************************************** Colonial Christmas songbook From: "Challe Hudson" challe-AT-alumni.unc.edu challehudson Date: Tue Dec 5, 2006 10:23 am ((PST)) I'm trying to put together a "Colonial Christmas Party" for a group of 4H History Club homeschool students. The kids are mostly elementary, with a few middle schoolers, and some preschoolers also tag along with big siblings. Does anyone have experience planning something like this? Any websites you'd recommend? I won't have a historic site, just a modern church building to decorate.= If I serve a meal (which I am considering) I'll have help cooking it, but I've got to plan the menu and come up with recipes. Advice? I plan to lead plenty of singing, but I'm still struggling to figure out which songs to lead. Does anyone have advice about period songs that are still sung today? (I've been reading all the footnotes in the Oxford Book of Carols trying to figure this out. I can find lots of period tunes that weren't translated into English until the 19th century, and lots of period texts that weren't set to the music we know until the 19th century, but few that have both.) I also plan to teach some basic English Country dancing. I want to toss holly on a bonfire for good luck, and perhaps we'll pretend to shoot into the trees -- are there any other really good Christmas or Solstice traditions from Colonial America? I know (from reading Colonial Williamsburg's site) that Christmas was really for the adults, but I'm making do with what interested people I can find here, and they all just happen to be about 12 years old and younger. (No fox hunts or formal balls, sorry, I can't pull that off.) Which makes me wonder...are there good discussion lists for dancers or musicians? Thanks! Challe Hudson ----__JWM__J41c6.167eS.2781M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html

As I understand it, Charlie should have the kids go to school a= s usual on Xmas Day and say their catechism and then the girls can go sl= op the pigs as usual and the boys can join the men in firing guns and bl= owing horns and terrorizing householders into giving them pennies, food = and whiskey.

As Stephen Nissenbaum's excellent book, The Search for Christmas, sho= ws, the holiday as we know it wasn't invented until the early 1820s. Pri= or to that time, in New England at least, it was an ordinary day (except= for the rough music) and, indeed, for some period of time, any sort of = celebration was subject to fines in Massachusetts. I expect things were = more lax and slightly more festive in Virginia, but the holiday was not = much celebrated in colonial times. Too bad.

Allison

-- "Ed St.Germain" <patriot1-AT-EARTHLI= NK.NET> wrote:
List:

I received the sub= joined message from someone in need of&nbs= p;help. I
submitted what little I know, = ;and thought some on the list might&= nbsp;be
able to offer further advice.

As&n= bsp;for the last question Challe asked, I&= nbsp;already told her to sign up
for th= is list.

Best regards,
Ed St.Germain
*******= *******************************************
Colonial Christmas&n= bsp;songbook
From: "Challe Hudson" challe-AT-alumni.unc.e= du challehudson
Date: Tue Dec 5, 2006 1= 0:23 am ((PST))

I'm trying to put t= ogether a "Colonial Christmas Party" for a= group
of 4H History Club homeschool st= udents. The kids are mostly
elementary, with= a few middle schoolers, and some pre= schoolers also
tag along with big siblings.<= BR>
Does anyone have experience planning som= ething like this? Any
websites you'd recomme= nd?

I won't have a historic site, j= ust a modern church building to decorate.<= BR>
If I serve a meal (which I am&= nbsp;considering) I'll have help cooking it,but I've got to plan the menu and&nb= sp;come up with recipes. Advice?

I plan&= nbsp;to lead plenty of singing, but I'm&nb= sp;still struggling to figure
out which song= s to lead. Does anyone have advice ab= out period songs
that are still sung to= day? (I've been reading all the footnotes&= nbsp;in
the Oxford Book of Carols trying&nbs= p;to figure this out. I can find lots=
of period tunes that weren't translated&nbs= p;into English until the 19th
century, and&n= bsp;lots of period texts that weren't set&= nbsp;to the music we
know until the 19t= h century, but few that have both.)
I also plan to teach some basic Engl= ish Country dancing.

I want to toss = ;holly on a bonfire for good luck, an= d perhaps we'll
pretend to shoot into t= he trees -- are there any other reall= y good
Christmas or Solstice traditions from= Colonial America? I know (from
reading = ;Colonial Williamsburg's site) that Christmas w= as really for
the adults, but I'm makin= g do with what interested people I ca= n find
here, and they all just happen&n= bsp;to be about 12 years old and youn= ger.
(No fox hunts or formal balls, sor= ry, I can't pull that off.)

Which m= akes me wonder...are there good discussion = ;lists for dancers
or musicians?

Thanks!
Cha= lle Hudson

----__JWM__J41c6.167eS.2781M-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 06:19:08 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 09:18:55 -0500 (EST) From: Susan Rachel Lorand Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] help needed for colonial song/dance Message-ID: References: <20061206.052502.803.203103-AT-webmail52.nyc.untd.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, allisonthompson-AT-juno.com wrote: > As Stephen Nissenbaum's excellent book, The Search for Christmas, shows, Do you mean _The Battle for Christmas_ (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1996)? For those unfamiliar with it, my library catalogue lists the contents thus: New England's war on Christmas -- Revisiting "A visit from St. Nicholas" -- The parlor and the street -- Affection's gift : toward a history of Christmas presents -- Under the Christmas tree : a battle of generations -- Tiny Tim and other charity cases -- Wassiling across the color line : Christmas in the antebellum South -- Epilogue : The ghosts of Christmas past. - Susie (hoping to actually get around to reading the book before another decade goes by) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 06:42:22 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "allisonthompson-AT-juno.com" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:40:10 GMT To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] help needed for colonial song/dance Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J2d85.19a1S.69d8M" Message-ID: <20061206.064034.803.203679-AT-webmail52.nyc.untd.com> ----__JWM__J2d85.19a1S.69d8M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain oops, yes -- Susan Rachel Lorand wrote: On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, allisonthompson-AT-juno.com wrote: > As Stephen Nissenbaum's excellent book, The Search for Christmas, show= s, Do you mean _The Battle for Christmas_ (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1996)= ? For those unfamiliar with it, my library catalogue lists the contents thus: New England's war on Christmas -- Revisiting "A visit from St. Nicholas"= -- The parlor and the street -- Affection's gift : toward a history of Christmas presents -- Under the Christmas tree : a battle of generations= -- Tiny Tim and other charity cases -- Wassiling across the color line := Christmas in the antebellum South -- Epilogue : The ghosts of Christmas past. - Susie (hoping to actually get around to reading the book before anothe= r decade goes by) ----__JWM__J2d85.19a1S.69d8M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html oops, yes

-- Susan Rachel Lorand <lo= rand-AT-UMICH.EDU> wrote:
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006= , allisonthompson-AT-juno.com wrote:

> As Ste= phen Nissenbaum's excellent book, The Search&nb= sp;for Christmas, shows,

Do you mean _Th= e Battle for Christmas_ (New York: Alfred&= nbsp;A. Knopf, 1996)?

For those unfamiliar&nb= sp;with it, my library catalogue lists the= contents
thus:

New England's war on = Christmas -- Revisiting "A visit from St.&= nbsp;Nicholas"
-- The parlor and the street&= nbsp;-- Affection's gift : toward a histor= y of
Christmas presents -- Under the Ch= ristmas tree : a battle of generations
= -- Tiny Tim and other charity cases -= - Wassiling across the color line :
Chr= istmas in the antebellum South -- Epilogue= : The ghosts of Christmas
past.

-&nb= sp;Susie (hoping to actually get around to= reading the book before another
decade = ;goes by)
----__JWM__J2d85.19a1S.69d8M-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 06:58:39 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:58:09 -0500 Subject: [ECD] "New Years Eve" source? From: Pat Petersen Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ECD list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know of a reconstruction of the dance New Years Eve, from 9th ed. of DM? Many thanks Pat ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 07:30:34 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:13:48 -0500 (EST) From: Susan Rachel Lorand Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ECD CC: Challe Hudson Subject: Re: [ECD] help needed for colonial song/dance Message-ID: References: <43D6BE9F-3C66-4EFD-B602-4D477744A390-AT-earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed If you have access to a good library, you might try looking for background information in Richard Crawford's _America's Musical Life_.* Part 1, The First Three Centuries, might help point you in useful directions, particularly chapter 3, "From Ritual to Art: The Flowering of Sacred Music" and chapter 4, "Old, Simple Ditties: Colonial Song, Dance, and Home Music Making". For specific songs, you could try looking in hymnals; they often include the dates for both the words and the music, as well as information about the sources. As for resources on the web, you might try the Internet Public Library** (music is listed under both Arts & Humanities - Fine Arts and Entertainment) and the Library of Congress American Memory Project . Finally, if you haven't already asked your local librarian, s/he may be able to help. When is the party happening? Good luck with your planning! Susie Lorand (librarian-in-training) * New York: W.W. Norton & Company, 2001. Still in print. ** Note that the IPL's "Ask a Question" service will close for the holidays on December 10 and reopen sometime in January. On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Ed St.Germain forwarded: > ************************************************** > Colonial Christmas songbook > From: "Challe Hudson" challe-AT-alumni.unc.edu challehudson > Date: Tue Dec 5, 2006 10:23 am ((PST)) > > I'm trying to put together a "Colonial Christmas Party" for a group > of 4H History Club homeschool students. The kids are mostly > elementary, with a few middle schoolers, and some preschoolers also > tag along with big siblings. > > I plan to lead plenty of singing, but I'm still struggling to figure > out which songs to lead. Does anyone have advice about period songs > that are still sung today? (I've been reading all the footnotes in > the Oxford Book of Carols trying to figure this out. I can find lots > of period tunes that weren't translated into English until the 19th > century, and lots of period texts that weren't set to the music we > know until the 19th century, but few that have both.) [snip] ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:17:15 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <20061206161701.31439.qmail-AT-web52603.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:17:01 -0800 (PST) From: tom.vincent-AT-yahoo.com Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] help needed for colonial song/dance To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1075898676-1165421821=:30006" --0-1075898676-1165421821=:30006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Other than the catechism, that sounds SO much better than 2 months of endle= ss ads and annoying music!=0A =0A-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*=0ATom Vincent=0A-*-*-*-= *-*-*-*-*-*=0ARepublican agenda: Crush the middle class into poverty, rape = the environment, enrich corporations, restore slavery, install a theocratic= dictatorship. Fight back!=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: "= allisonthompson-AT-juno.com" =0ATo: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.= stanford.edu=0ASent: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 8:24:11 AM=0ASubject: Re: = [ECD] help needed for colonial song/dance=0A=0A=0AAs I understand it, Charl= ie should have the kids go to school as usual on Xmas Day and say their cat= echism and then the girls can go slop the pigs as usual and the boys can jo= in the men in firing guns and blowing horns and terrorizing householders in= to giving them pennies, food and whiskey.=0AAs Stephen Nissenbaum's excelle= nt book, The Search for Christmas, shows, the holiday as we know it wasn't = invented until the early 1820s. Prior to that time, in New England at least= , it was an ordinary day (except for the rough music) and, indeed, for some= period of time, any sort of celebration was subject to fines in Massachuse= tts. I expect things were more lax and slightly more festive in Virginia, b= ut the holiday was not much celebrated in colonial times. Too bad.=0AAlliso= n --0-1075898676-1165421821=:30006 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Other than the catechism, that sounds SO= much better than 2 months of endless ads and annoying music!
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From: "all= isonthompson-AT-juno.com" <allisonthompson-AT-juno.com>
To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.s= lac.stanford.edu
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 8:24:11 AM
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As I understan= d it, Charlie should have the kids go to school as usual on Xmas Day and sa= y their catechism and then the girls can go slop the pigs as usual and the = boys can join the men in firing guns and blowing horns and terrorizing hous= eholders into giving them pennies, food and whiskey.

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As Stephen Ni= ssenbaum's excellent book, The Search for Christmas, shows, the holiday as = we know it wasn't invented until the early 1820s. Prior to that time, in Ne= w England at least, it was an ordinary day (except for the rough music) and= , indeed, for some period of time, any sort of celebration was subject to f= ines in Massachusetts. I expect things were more lax and slightly more fest= ive in Virginia, but the holiday was not much celebrated in colonial times.= Too bad.

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Allison

--0-1075898676-1165421821=:30006-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:32:37 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <20061206163221.28197.qmail-AT-web53314.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:32:21 -0800 (PST) From: Graham Christian Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] "New Years Eve" source? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Pat: There does not seem to be one in current circulation. I have my surmises about how it goess: I could generate an interpretation for you if you'd like--perhaps as a kind of e-Christmas gift... --- Pat Petersen wrote: > Does anyone know of a reconstruction of the dance New Years Eve, from 9th > ed. of DM? > > Many thanks > > Pat > > > Graham "Be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:54:03 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <20061206165346.70845.qmail-AT-web52601.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:53:45 -0800 (PST) From: tom.vincent-AT-yahoo.com Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] help needed for colonial song/dance To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1441326582-1165424025=:67446" --0-1441326582-1165424025=:67446 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It would be helpful to know what effort this person has already gone throug= h to find this information (so as to not waste our time duplicating efforts= ), but just doing a search for 'colonial christmas' returned a lot of poten= tially useful URLs.=0A=0Awww.history.org/Almanack/life/xmas/customs.cfm=0Aw= ww.jacobsburg.org/jacobsburg_christmas_06.html =0Awww.foodhistory.com/inkl= ings/books/colonialxmas.htm=0A=0Aand so on.=0A =0A-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*=0ATom = Vincent=0A-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*=0ARepublican agenda: Crush the middle class in= to poverty, rape the environment, enrich corporations, restore slavery, ins= tall a theocratic dictatorship. Fight back!=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Messa= ge ----=0AFrom: Ed St.Germain =0ATo: ECD =0ASent: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 1:02:01 AM=0ASubje= ct: [ECD] help needed for colonial song/dance=0A=0A=0AList:=0A=0AI received= the subjoined message from someone in need of help. I=0Asubmitted what lit= tle I know, and thought some on the list might be=0Aable to offer further = advice.=0A=0AAs for the last question Challe asked, I already told her to s= ign up=0Afor this list.=0A=0ABest regards,=0AEd St.Germain=0A**************= ************************************=0AColonial Christmas songbook=0AFrom: = "Challe Hudson" challe-AT-alumni.unc.edu challehudson=0ADate: Tue Dec 5, 2006 = 10:23 am ((PST))=0A=0AI'm trying to put together a "Colonial Christmas Part= y" for a group=0Aof 4H History Club homeschool students. The kids are mostl= y=0Aelementary, with a few middle schoolers, and some preschoolers also=0At= ag along with big siblings.=0A=0ADoes anyone have experience planning somet= hing like this? Any=0Awebsites you'd recommend?=0A=0AI won't have a histori= c site, just a modern church building to decorate.=0A=0AIf I serve a meal (= which I am considering) I'll have help cooking it,=0Abut I've got to plan t= he menu and come up with recipes. Advice?=0A=0AI plan to lead plenty of sin= ging, but I'm still struggling to figure=0Aout which songs to lead. Does an= yone have advice about period songs=0Athat are still sung today? (I've been= reading all the footnotes in=0Athe Oxford Book of Carols trying to figure = this out. I can find lots=0Aof period tunes that weren't translated into En= glish until the 19th=0Acentury, and lots of period texts that weren't set t= o the music we=0Aknow until the 19th century, but few that have both.)=0A= =0AI also plan to teach some basic English Country dancing.=0A=0AI want to = toss holly on a bonfire for good luck, and perhaps we'll=0Apretend to shoot= into the trees -- are there any other really good=0AChristmas or Solstice = traditions from Colonial America? I know (from=0Areading Colonial Williamsb= urg's site) that Christmas was really for=0Athe adults, but I'm making do w= ith what interested people I can find=0Ahere, and they all just happen to b= e about 12 years old and younger.=0A(No fox hunts or formal balls, sorry, I= can't pull that off.)=0A=0AWhich makes me wonder...are there good discussi= on lists for dancers=0Aor musicians?=0A=0AThanks!=0AChalle Hudson --0-1441326582-1165424025=:67446 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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It would be helpful to know what effort = this person has already gone through to find this information (so as to not= waste our time duplicating efforts), but just doing a search for 'col= onial christmas' returned a lot of potentially useful URLs.<= /DIV>=0A

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www.history.org/Almanack/life/= xmas/customs.cfm

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www.jacobsburg.org/jacobsburg_christmas_06.html

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www.foodhistory= .com/inklings/books/colonialxmas.htm

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and so on.

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----- Original Message ----
From: Ed St.Germain &l= t;patriot1-AT-EARTHLINK.NET>
To: ECD <ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu>= ;
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 1:02:01 AM
Subject: [ECD] help ne= eded for colonial song/dance

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List:

I received the sub= joined message from someone in need of help. I
submitted what little I k= now, and thought some on the list might be
able to offer furt= her advice.

As for the last question Challe asked, I already told he= r to sign up
for this list.

Best regards,
Ed St.Germain
***= ***********************************************
Colonial Christmas songb= ook
From: "Challe Hudson" challe-AT-alumni.unc.edu challehudson
Date: Tu= e Dec 5, 2006 10:23 am ((PST))

I'm trying to put together a "Colonia= l Christmas Party" for a group
of 4H History Club homeschool students. T= he kids are mostly
elementary, with a few middle schoolers, and some pre= schoolers also
tag along with big siblings.

Does anyone have expe= rience planning something like this? Any
websites you'd recommend?
I won't have a historic site, just a modern church building to decorate.<= BR>
If I serve a meal (which I am considering) I'll have help cooking it,
but I've got to plan the menu and come up wi= th recipes. Advice?

I plan to lead plenty of singing, but I'm still = struggling to figure
out which songs to lead. Does anyone have advice ab= out period songs
that are still sung today? (I've been reading all the f= ootnotes in
the Oxford Book of Carols trying to figure this out. I can f= ind lots
of period tunes that weren't translated into English until the = 19th
century, and lots of period texts that weren't set to the music we<= BR>know until the 19th century, but few that have both.)

I also plan= to teach some basic English Country dancing.

I want to toss holly o= n a bonfire for good luck, and perhaps we'll
pretend to shoot into the t= rees -- are there any other really good
Christmas or Solstice traditions= from Colonial America? I know (from
reading Colonial Williamsburg's sit= e) that Christmas was really for
the adults, but I'm making do with what= interested people I can find
here, and they all just happen to be about 12 years o= ld and younger.
(No fox hunts or formal balls, sorry, I can't pull that = off.)

Which makes me wonder...are there good discussion lists for da= ncers
or musicians?

Thanks!
Challe Hudson

--0-1441326582-1165424025=:67446-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:11:05 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:10:49 -0800 (PST) From: SUSAN Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] Colonial Christmas Customs To: ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <193664.94913.qm-AT-web80228.mail.yahoo.com> The Central Rappahannock Regional Library (Virginia) website has a wealth of information about Christmas customs in colonial Virginia, including simple recipes and activities that are readily adaptable for children, plus a good bibliography. I found this site, to which my computer glitches will not allow me to link, by Googling for (christmas "colonial virginia" children). The Colonial Williamsburg sites popped up first, then about halfway down the first page I found the library site, which contains more practical information than CW's, surprisingly. My father was a Virginian, though he spent half of his lifetime in Kentucky. However, he always returned to the Old Dominion at Christmas. It's interesting to see how many of the traditional Christmas dinner dishes which our family enjoyed during my Virginia grandmother's lifetime date back to colonial times: turkey, oysters, wine jelly, ham, and probably more. (And here's the dance connection: one of my 18th century Virginia Booker ancestors lost his father at an early age, but his very conscientious guardians documented their care of him. Tthe boy remained with his widowed mother, but his father appointed the guardians, who were male relatives, in his will, and charnged them with seeing that his son was properly educated. The young boy was appropriately educated, provided with a horse and taught to ride - and was given dancing lessons by a hired dancing master. It's nice to know I'm continuing to enjoy a long-ago family avocation, even though it's obvious that nowadays we don't dance exactly like our predecessors probably danced). Susan B. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:28:56 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:28:39 -0500 From: susan-AT-elegantarts.org Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu CC: susan-AT-lse.org Subject: Re: [ECD] "New Years Eve" source? Message-ID: <20061206192839.GA27962-AT-lse.org> References: <20061206163221.28197.qmail-AT-web53314.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Pat Petersen wrote: > Does anyone know of a reconstruction of the dance New Years Eve, from 9th > ed. of DM? I have one, but: 1) it's from the 10th ed, not the 9th, though I believe the dance is the same in both 2) it is fairly speculative, which is to say I wouldn't teach it as a historical reconstruction without a lot more contextual work 3) it's never been tested by actual human beings If you want it despite all these caveats I can send it. I never got to do the NYE ball I needed it for, so it just sits around sadly undanced. Susan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:54:02 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) References: <00A5FC8C.9EEE765E.13-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: <2067CDBF-C721-4EC9-AD2E-3ACB225AAF71-AT-earthlink.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Ed St.Germain" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] help needed for colonial song/dance Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:53:55 -0800 To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu On Dec 6, 2006, at 7:00 AM, "allisonthompson-AT-juno.com" wrote: the holiday as we know it wasn't invented until the early 1820s. =20 Prior =3D to that time, in New England at least, it was an ordinary day (except =20= fo=3D r the rough music) and, indeed, for some period of time, any sort of =20 cel=3D ebration was subject to fines in Massachusetts. I expect things were =20 mor=3D e lax and slightly more festive in Virginia, but the holiday was not =20 muc=3D h celebrated in colonial times. Allison: Quite right you are, as always, dear lady. The law requiring fines in Massachusetts would have been in 1659, =20 during the Protectorate of Richard Cromwell, when the General Court =20 of Massachusetts outlawed the observance of Christmas, fining =20 persistent revelers five shillings. Court records show people were =20 prosecuted especially for =93tippling=94. Violations even included the =20= eating of mincemeat pies, which was synonymous with the popish =20 holiday. But in 1681 that ban was repealed. On December 25,1741 Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, was founded by Count =20 Nikolaus von Zinendorf, who led a band of Moravians with lighted =20 candles. Speaking of Moravians, you may have noticed from the e-mail =20 address of Challe (not Charlie) that she's from North Carolina, which =20= also has a thriving Moravian community whose Christmas celebrations =20 with baked sweets and symbolic stars far pre-date the 19th century. Of course there were regional differences, as you correctly pointed =20 out. But even within colonies there were differences. Speaking of =20 Pennsylvania, Peter Kalm noted in 1749 of Philadelphia, "Christmas =20 Day... The Quakers did not regard this day any more remarkable than =20 other days. Stores were open, and anyone might sell or purchase =20 what he wanted.... There was no more baking of bread for the =20 Christmas festival than for other days: and no Christmas porridge on =20 Christmas Eve! One did not seem to know what it meant to wish =20 anyone a merry Christmas.... first the Prebyterians did not care much =20= for celebrating Christmas, but when they saw most of their members =20 going to the English church on that day, they also started to have =20 services." Back in Massachusetts, One Bostonian who was contributing to a change =20= in how folks viewed Christmas was the printer Isaiah Thomas. In the =20 years after the Revolution he printed many hymns, poems, and =20 children's books retelling the Christmas legend. But even in his =20 first year in Boston, publishing the MASSACHUSETTS SPY, Thomas seems =20 to have emphasized Christmas more than his colleagues. t was already =20 traditional for newspaper carriers and other apprentices to ask for =20 little presents or tips from their steady customers at the turn of =20 the year. But Thomas printed up a verse for his workers that put =20 Christmas first. The carriers may have sung that verse to the =20 customers they called on, but Thomas's broadside has an elaborate =20 decorative woodcut at the top, indicating that the boys passed out or =20= sold the paper. That may make it the closest thing to a Christmas =20 card in the 1770s. Here's the whole text of one: The LAD who carries The MASSACHUSETTS SPY, Wishes all his kind Customers A Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year! And presents the following : MAY grateful omens now appear To make the New a happy Year, And bless th' ensuing days : May future peace in every mind, Like odours wafted by the wind, Its sweetest incense raise. May GEORGE in his extensive reign, Subdue the prince of haughty SPAIN Submissive to his feet. Thy princely smiles our ills appease ; Then grant that harmony and peace The dawning year may greet. Kind Sirs ! you gen'rous bounty show, Few shillings on your Lad bestow, Which will reward his pains, Who piercing Winter's cold endures, And to your hands the SPY secures, And still his task maintains. Boston, January 1, 1771. You mentioned your belief that things were slightly more festive in =20 Virginia. Quite right again, as this newspaper lament reveals: "Our =20 Ancestors, who have taught us many good Things, would teach us =20 Something worthy of Imitation in this Point also, if we had Virtue =20 enough to copy it. These brave Men considered this annual Festival as =20= the Season for calling forth their most serious Thoughts: If they =20 shut the Doors of their Shops or Compting Houses at the Approach of =20 Christmas, it was only to retire into their Closets and to present =20 their Gratitude to Heaven. Thus it served as a Spur to make them more =20= generous, more virtuous, and more religious; and this naturally =20 inspiring Mirth and Cheerfulness (for true Religion is always =20 cheerful) their very Worship became blended with an innocent and =20 laudable Festivity, which made it not only a religious, but (as they =20 called it) a merry Christmas. This was the true and original Meaning =20 of the Phrase; which we, wanting only an Excuse to be riotous, have =20 perverted from its real Explanation. We make Christmas excessively =20 merry, only by being excessively wicked; and we celebrate the =20 Festivity of our Saviour, as if we were ministering the mad Orgies of =20= Bacchus. But Profligacy is the Characteristick of this wretched Age. =20 Virginia Gazette, December 30, 1773. In 1777, the Baroness von Riedesel voluntarily entered captivity =20 with her husband after the battle of Saratoga. When her husband was =20 paroled and went to Canada in 1781, she celebrated by erecting what =20 is the earliest recorded Christmas tree in the Americas. This, of =20 course, far predated the tree of Albert and Victoria that most pop =20 historians claim is the first Christmas tree outside of the German =20 states. Speaking of the Revolution, Christmas was an especially meaningful =20 holiday for the Washingtons. George and Martha Washington were =20 married on Twelfth Night in 1759, and throughout their lives they =20 tried to spend the Christmas holiday season together. Even during the =20= Revolution, Martha Washington traveled the winter roads with a =20 military escort to join the General in his winter quarters. It was on =20= Christmas Eve in 1783 that Washington stopped at Annapolis, the =20 nations capitol, to surrender his sword of war to Congress, on his =20 way home for the holiday. And of course you'r quite right about firing guns, although at least =20 during the Revolution, it was discouraged: General Orders for Christmas eve, 1776 At this season when disorder & riot Generally prevails more than =20 Common attention is requisite in All guards, & all offrs. of Companys =20= are expected to pay strict regard to the conduct of their men they =20 will be as Little absent from their Barraks as possible & by every =20 means in their power prevent those excesses which may Occasion injury =20= to the Inhabitants & bringing Disgrace upon the army, the General =20 hope the men will by their sobriety & good conduct merit his =20 Approbation, he wishes this the more Anxiously, as severe punishment =20= however painfull to himself will be the certain consequence of =20 Misbehaviour *********************************** Christmas eve, 1777 All Commissioned & nonCommissioned Officers are to be particular at =20 this time of festivity to have all such Soldiers whom may be found =20 Drunk in the streets or Otherways sent to the Guard house there to =20 remain till further Order; All soldiers are forbid going into town or =20= out of Barracks After retreat Beating, Any Soldiers who may be found =20 out of the Barrack Yard after that time to be Confind where they will =20= remain for a week only to be taken out to mount guard every other day =20= & After relieved Immediately put in Confinement; & those who may be =20 found Drunk will be further punished =96 this Order to be made Known to =20= the men this Evening **************************************** Christmas Day 1779 General Orders. The Commanding Officer is truly Astonished & shamed to see Soldiers =20 Behave in so Disorderly at last night & this morning firing of Guns =20 Contrary to all good order & Discipline, he Orders no Guns in future =20 to be fired in or near the Camp, all those who Disobey this Order =20 will be taken up & immediately punished, he therefore calls on all =20 Commissioned & NonCommissioned Officer to take any man who shall be =20 found firing of Guns in Camp & confine them that they may be punished =20= for their disobedience & Guards to send out a party so that they may =20 find them & confine them. The Sutler and all other persons are =20 forbid to Sell any Liquor to any Soldiers on pain of having the =20 Liquor Destroyed & themselves immediately punished =96 As for terrorizing householders, you're correct again, even with a =20 little bit of Islam thrown in, during Christmas time. This is from a =20= book called, BLACKS IN COLONIAL NORTH CAROLINA. Some African and Muslim practices continued in North Carolina. Dr. =20 Warren recalled a particular custom that was called =93John =20 Koonering.=94 At Christmas a slave leader=97perhaps the obeah-man=97=20 dressed in a costume of rags, animal skins, horns, and bells, while a =20= second slave, wearing no disguise but arrayed in his best clothes, =20 carried a small bowl or tin cup and accompanied the =93rag man.=94 =20 Others, playing musical instruments or =93gumba boxes,=94 followed the =20= leading two characters. They approached the front door of the =20 master=92s house and commenced performing energetic songs and dances. =20= As a reward or gift, the master was expected to jingle the tin cup =20 with coins. Dr. Warren maintained that during his residence in Egypt =20= he witnessed =93a performance absolutely identical with that which I =20 had seen in Carolina=94 Back in New England, at least the Ministerial Army was celebrating =20 heartily as shown by this extract from Gen. Howe's Orderly Book: "HEAD QUARTERS, Boston, 25th. Dec., 1775. The Commanding Officers of Corps to order their Quarter Masters to =20 attend Long Wharf to receive a Butt of Porter for each Corps, which =20 will be sent to their Quarters for Christmas." However, the celebrations might have got a little rowdy, since this =20 appeared on the following day: "HEAD QUARTERS, Boston, 26th. Dec., 1775. The Quarter Masters of Corps to be answerable for the empty Porter =20 Butts, for which they will be obliged to pay if either lost or =20 Destroyed." A butt is about 126 gallons or 2 hogsheads. Before 1824, a hogshead =20 was 63 gallons. It refers to a particular size if cask that is not a =20 precise measure. So that is about 1007 pints. BTW a 'butt' seems to apply especially to Porter 'It is often said =20 that the precursor of today's porter was made by Ralph Harwood, a =20 publican in East London in 1722. Tired of blending various beers from =20= different casks to suit patron's tastes, Harwood produced an ale that =20= reduced serving time, decreased the dependence on various beer stocks =20= and complicated inventories, and increased profits. Known initially =20 as the 'entire butt' or just 'entire,' this ale was embraced by =20 London's working class, particularly porters; hence the common name. ' Not to be outdone by the English, the colonials celebrated as well, =20 as seen by this extract from the Military Journal of Dr. Thacher of a =20= Massachusetts regiment: "New Jersey (?) Dec.30, 1778-- Our officers =20 have not permitted the Christmas days to pass unnoticed, not a day =20 without receiving invitations to dine, nor a night without amusement =20 and dancing. I dine to-day with General Muhlenburg. This is =20 appropriated as a day of Thansgiving throughout the state." Please nota bene the reference to dancing. But to get back to the original request for help, the lady was =20 looking for 18th century English country dances and songs appropriate =20= for a Christmas party. I humbly suggested the old Christmas song/=20 dance Masters in this Hall (or La Mattelotte when Feuillet published =20 it, translated into Female Saylor by Essex in 1710,) In the Bleak =20 Midwinter (although the dance is modern, the carol can be found in =20 Edith Rickert's Ancient English Christmas Carols 1400-1700,) and Drive the Cold Winter Away (Durfey(?) 1st Playford) and a couple =20 of songs from http://www.americanrevolution.org/songs.html If anyone has any other suggestions to help Challe, her e-mail =20 address is: challe-AT-alumni.unc.edu I'll close with a Christmas thought from an 18th century fellow =20 famous for knowing how to celebrate: "Let no pleasure tempt thee, no =20 profit allure thee, no ambition corrupt thee, no example sway thee, =20 no persuasion move thee to do anything which thou knowest to be evil; =20= so thou shalt live jollily, for a good conscience is a continual =20 Christmas." --Benjamin Franklin Best regards, Ed St.Germain= ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:48:27 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu From: Colin Hume Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 21:48:08 GMT Message-ID: <200612621488.645881-AT-Colin> Subject: Re: [ECD] "New Years Eve" source? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:28:39 -0500, susan-AT-ELEGANTARTS.ORG wrote: > I have one, but: > > 1) it's from the 10th ed, not the 9th, though I believe the dance > is the same in both > > 2) it is fairly speculative, which is to say I wouldn't teach it as > a historical reconstruction without a lot more contextual work > > 3) it's never been tested by actual human beings > > If you want it despite all these caveats I can send it. I never > got to do the NYE ball I needed it for, so it just sits around > sadly undanced. Let's see it, then we can all argue about it and maybe come up with something more convincing. Let me start the ball rolling by giving the original wording in a more readable form than the original - I know it puts some people off to have to decipher things - and it also means that if I've misread the punctuation or made any other mistakes someone will correct me. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First Man take the second Woman by the Right Hand, and lead her between the second Man and first Woman; cast off into their places, and turn, the first couple run the Figure between the second, turn your own, first man standing in his own place; First Man and second Woman cross and go round. The first Man round his Woman into his own place, and second Woman round her man into her place; Hands half round; The second couple cast off; First Man cross over with the second Woman, the second Man cross over with the first Woman. then turn your own. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I'm not at all sure about the semicolons - but maybe it's not that important. As you can see, there are none of the useful underlined single and double dots that you find in the first edition, nor are the instructions printed under the appropriate piece of music - you're on your own here! The A- and B- music are each 6 bars long, with no indication of repeats. The time-signature is 6:4, as you find with "King of Poland" and "Geud Man of Ballangigh" also from the 10th edition, so we assume this means a jig, which these days we would notate as 6:8. Indeed, "Geud Man of Ballangigh" is actually described as "To a New Scotch Jig". A six-bar A-music and a six-bar B-music is not very long, even with repeats! So what does it all mean, and how does it fit the music? The first man and second woman are diagonally opposite each other - how can he "lead" her anywhere? Maybe it means a right-hand turn half-way, then continue outside back to their places (I assume "their" places means their own places rather than the places of the people they're allegedly leading between). And then turn once around? Very tricky to fit all that into six bars. "The first couple run the figure" (assuming that word really is "run") means a figure eight or a half figure eight. I refuse to believe that "turn your own, first man standing in his own place" means he whirls his partner round while remaining stationary - that sounds more of a contra dance move! Maybe it means he finishes in his own place, in which case it could be a half figure eight and half a turn - that would fit into six bars. Now we have "First Man and second Woman cross and go round. The first Man round his Woman into his own place, and second Woman round her man into her place". Let's assume that the second "sentence" (lacking a verb) is just a phrase to amplify the first. This could mean the first corners crossing right shoulder and looping left, round their partners and back to place. The rest looks straightforward. Assuming everyone is in their original place, circle left half-way; twos cast, ones lead up. Everyone is now improper. First man second woman cross, other corners cross, all two-hand turn once around. Assuming four steps for the circle half, four for the cast, four for each cross and eight for the turn, it does indeed use twelve bars of music - two B's - except that the first cross is at the end of B1 and the second is at the start of B2. So those are my speculations and problems - let's see if the combined might of the ECD List can come up with a convincing version of the dance. Colin Hume Email colin-AT-colinhume.com Web site http://www.colinhume.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:55:58 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:55:45 -0800 (PST) From: Graham Christian Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] "New Years Eve" source? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <147118.62440.qm-AT-web53304.mail.yahoo.com> Colin (and everyone else!): > First Man take the second Woman by the Right Hand, and lead her > between the second Man and first Woman; cast off into their places, > and turn, the first couple run the Figure between the second, turn > your own, first man standing in his own place; First Man and second > Woman cross and go round. The first Man round his Woman into his own > place, and second Woman round her man into her place; Hands half > round; The second couple cast off; First Man cross over with the > second Woman, the second Man cross over with the first Woman. then > turn your own. > The A- and B- music are each 6 bars long, with no indication of > repeats. Except that it does: it plainly says, under the music: Note: Each Strain to be play'd twice over. I agree that some of the figures are difficult to fit--but let's at least give ourselves the indicated 12 bars rather than 6 bars each. > So what does it all mean, and how does it fit the music? The first > man and second woman are diagonally opposite each other - how can he > "lead" her anywhere? Maybe it means a right-hand turn half-way, then > continue outside back to their places (I assume "their" places means > their own places rather than the places of the people they're > allegedly leading between). And then turn once around? Very tricky > to fit all that into six bars. I don't think this can be a turn, since this dancing master uses the word "turn," presumably to mean more or less what we do by it. I think 1st M extends his right hand to 2nd W, and he leads her up around standing 1st W. She casts around 1st W; he casts around 2nd M; they quickly turn once around, probably with 2 hands. > "The first couple run the figure" (assuming that word really is "run") > means a figure eight or a half figure eight. I refuse to believe that > "turn your own, first man standing in his own place" means he whirls > his partner round while remaining stationary - that sounds more of a > contra dance move! Maybe it means he finishes in his own place, in > which case it could be a half figure eight and half a turn - that > would fit into six bars. Yes, that word is "run," which at this period may have indicated a zippy but less "Baroque" kind of dance footing (perhaps something like skipping in our sense). The 1st M ENDS in his own place--the phrase describes the *resulting* position of the action (since, as usual, the words are more or less directed to 1st M). So, I generally agree: 1s 1/2 fig. 8 down through the 2s & 1/2 turn with two hands. > Now we have "First Man and second Woman cross and go round. The first > Man round his Woman into his own place, and second Woman round her man > into her place". Let's assume that the second "sentence" (lacking a > verb) is just a phrase to amplify the first. This could mean the > first corners crossing right shoulder and looping left, round their > partners and back to place. I generally agree: 1st M & 2nd W cross RS and cast L back to places. > The rest looks straightforward. Assuming everyone is in their > original place, circle left half-way; twos cast, ones lead up. > Everyone is now improper. First man second woman cross, other corners > cross, all two-hand turn once around. Assuming four steps for the > circle half, four for the cast, four for each cross and eight for the > turn, it does indeed use twelve bars of music - two B's - except that > the first cross is at the end of B1 and the second is at the start of > B2. I think this general track is likely correct, but I wouldn't hang an interpretation of a dance of this period on exactly how many steps are taken--in the 1680s and 1690s, dancers would have started on the *left* foot, and would have been executing some sort of stepwork that was more than a walk of four steps. Whether, in this jig-time dance, this would have been bourrees or something else is still a matter of speculation--and even our friend Susan concedes that this isn't her core "period." I don't think the slight asymmetry Colin finds here would have disturbed dancers of William & Mary's England--we have a strong tendency nowadays to insist that *every* phrase have its characteristic movement, preferably on a downbeat (what contemporary dance critics call "Mickey Mousing"). Graham "Be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:30:41 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "allisonthompson-AT-juno.com" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 14:42:09 GMT To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] "New Years Eve" source? Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J0ff6.0abdS.31dfM" Message-ID: <20061207.064244.1008.1048900-AT-webmail02.nyc.untd.com> ----__JWM__J0ff6.0abdS.31dfM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain Fascinating discussion, gentlemen! I looked at the music and, alas, I found it at first glance uninspiring:= it wanders around considerable and doesn't have much of a "storyline" a= nd the 2 six-bar phrases are a tad disconcerting to my 8-bar ears. But I= may still give it a try, once you've duked out the dance instructions. Allison ----__JWM__J0ff6.0abdS.31dfM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html

Fascinating discussion, gentlemen!

I looked at the music and, alas, I found it at first glance uninspiri= ng: it wanders around considerable and doesn't have much of a "storyline= " and the 2 six-bar phrases are a tad disconcerting to my 8-bar ears. Bu= t I may still give it a try, once you've duked out the dance instruction= s.

Allison

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Pat ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 09:25:00 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 09:24:35 -0800 To: ECD Mailing List From: Beth Zekley Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] Lark Camp World Music, Song & Dance Camp 2007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lark Camp - Celebration Of World Music, Song & Dance 2007 July 27 - August 4, 2007 at the Mendocino Woodlands, Mendocino, California Registration For Lark Camp 2007 Is Open Camp sold out last year so register early. Register now! 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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:14:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Colin. Would it be any help if the 1st couple were Improper. I know it isn't usual, but who are we to know? The half figureof eight could then follow the cast, without losing any time for a half turn. Regards Francis ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 10:08:43 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <200612071808.kB7I8S6l026971-AT-ms-smtp-03.rdc-nyc.rr.com> From: "Arthur Munisteri" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: Subject: RE: [ECD] New Years Eve Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 13:08:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I assume that the description below of the sought-after dancers intended no disrespect to those whose ancestors lived (or who themselves live, for that matter) on the boot-shaped peninsula of Europe in the Mediterranean Sea. Arthur Angelo Pino Munisteri -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [mailto:owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of Pat Petersen Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 12:10 PM To: ECD list Subject: [ECD] New Years Eve Many thanks to all for your speedy replies! Graham and Susan, I would be most grateful for any interpretations or ideas you might have, either privately or via the list. Meanwhile, I'll ponder what has already been written, and give it a test run as soon as I can find a few guinea dancers. Pat ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:19:46 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <20061207191932.47227.qmail-AT-web53304.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:19:31 -0800 (PST) From: Graham Christian Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] "New Years Eve" source? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Francis: I think we know that the 1s are not improper because the written instructions do not say so. It was exceedingly unusual in this period to have a longways dance where the 1s were improper (yes, "King of Poland"--but it's almost without parallel; Bray also has improper dances). There is no good reason to change the structure of the dance. If you don't believe me (or Colin) you can verify it for yourself: http://www.izaak.unh.edu/nhltmd/indexes/dancingmaster/ --- francis2 wrote: > Colin. Would it be any help if the 1st couple were Improper. I know it > isn't usual, but who are we to know? The half figureof eight could then > follow the cast, without losing any time for a half turn. > Regards Francis > > Graham "Be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:13:51 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 12:13:36 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Peterson Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] New Years Eve To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <427953.27465.qm-AT-web39710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Pat Petersen wrote: > Many thanks to all for your speedy replies! Graham and Susan, I > would be most grateful for any interpretations or ideas you might > have, either privately or via the list. Meanwhile, I'll ponder > what has already been written, and give it a test run as soon as I > can find a few guinea dancers. A friend of mine has about thirty guinea hens that need something to do, and no Art, I'm not talking about women from the afore mentioned boot-shaped peninsular, although they would probably be easier to instruct in the fine points of dancing. ;-}) Andy in PDX OR ____________________________________________________________________________________ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:29:56 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu From: Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] Phil Merrill recordings? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20061207162302.CUV92936-AT-ms05.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 16:23:02 -0500 (EST) I just received the Pinewoods Post. An article about Jack Langstaff refers to Phil Merrill's "sensitive and flowing playing of the Playford dances." Does anyone know if there are any recordings of Phil's playing for ECD? Would anyone who heard him play care to offer a description or reminiscence? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:09:08 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:08:54 -0500 From: Ruth Scodel Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Phil Merrill recordings? Message-ID: References: <20061207162302.CUV92936-AT-ms05.lnh.mail.rcn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From the cdss catalogue: Merrill, Phil & Marshall Barron By Popular Demand Cassette only. Phil Merrill and Marshall Barron (piano and violin) play 13 classic English country dance tunes. See Keller and Shimer's book The Playford Ball for dances; see Barron's book The Geud Man of 55th Street for arrangements. Originally released in 1978. 1999 | Dance Length Recording | cas $13.00 --On Thursday, December 7, 2006 4:23 PM -0500 mjoconor-AT-RCN.COM wrote: > I just received the Pinewoods Post. An article about Jack Langstaff > refers to Phil Merrill's "sensitive and flowing playing of the Playford > dances." > > Does anyone know if there are any recordings of Phil's playing for ECD? > > Would anyone who heard him play care to offer a description or > reminiscence? > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:07:05 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <20061207230650.43723.qmail-AT-web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 15:06:50 -0800 (PST) From: John Ramsay Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Phil Merrill recordings? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From John Ramsay in St Louis Phil Merrill's fingers would quiver in readiness as they hovered over the piano keys and then would literally dance over the keys as they launched the tune. He devoted his entire attention to making the music and the dancers move. He understood body kinetics as well as piano or accordion mechanics. He communicated with his musical instrument but was also a very skillful caller and could lead dances verbally without missing a note on his instrument. He often played while turned halfway toward the dancers, watching their every move. His pickups were clear and demanding and his endings left one feeling satisfied. --- mjoconor-AT-RCN.COM wrote: > I just received the Pinewoods Post. An article > about Jack Langstaff refers to Phil Merrill's > "sensitive and flowing playing of the Playford > dances." > > Does anyone know if there are any recordings of > Phil's playing for ECD? > > Would anyone who heard him play care to offer a > description or reminiscence? > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:32:00 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:29:22 -0800 (PST) From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing Subject: Re: [ECD] Phil Merrill recordings? To: ECD-AT-SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <01MAG7ASE5CY9FPT6Y-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii > I just received the Pinewoods Post. An article about Jack Langstaff refers >to Phil Merrill's "sensitive and flowing playing of the Playford dances." > Does anyone know if there are any recordings of Phil's playing for ECD? Cut and pasted from www.cdss.org/sales Merrill, Phil & Marshall Barron By Popular Demand Cassette only. Phil Merrill and Marshall Barron (piano and violin) play 13 classic English country dance tunes. See Keller and Shimer's book The Playford Ball for dances; see Barron's book The Geud Man of 55th Street for arrangements. Originally released in 1978. 1999 | Dance Length Recording | cas $13.00 -- Alan -- =============================================================================== Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 =============================================================================== ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:19:35 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:18:51 -0500 Message-ID: <06120720185152-AT-tedcrane.com> From: pam-AT-tedcrane.com (Pamela Goddard) Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Lark Camp World Music, Song & Dance Camp 2007 Wow! With such a staff roster, is there any room for campers? This is amazing. -Pamela in Ithaca ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:51:24 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20061207174158.04a37068-AT-pop.sonic.net> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:51:04 -0800 To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu From: Sharon Green Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Lark Camp World Music, Song & Dance Camp 2007 References: <06120720185152-AT-tedcrane.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 05:18 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote: >Wow! With such a staff roster, is there any room for campers? >This is amazing. Hi Pam, I wouldn't have believed Lark Camp either till I wound up on staff there last summer. Yes, there's room for campers--in cabins, in tents, in yurts, in the wildest assortment of RVs, motor homes, station wagons, VW buses, pickup trucks, etc., you've ever seen. I've been to Mendocino Woodlands before (BACDS English Week, naturally), but I've never seen the place as packed. Lark's a great place to pick up a new instrument if you're a musician (or even if you're not) or to explore a new dance style: incredible energy. You'd have fun. Do what I plan to do: come to Mendocino English Week [6/30-7/7] for the total ECD experience [Andrew Shaw, Gene Murrow, Judy Erickson, Brooke Friendly] and exquisite, Annie Johnston-designed food; then come back for the California happening that is Lark. As Dickens would phrase it, "What larks!" Much love, Sharon Green [Disclaimer: Yes, I'm on Lark Camp's 2007 staff, but I have no financial interest in the camp (i.e., I don't accept a fee). I just think it's a hoot.] ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:48:17 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: <687903B4-5445-47F5-A300-A534D0D9D180-AT-cox.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Dustin & Christi Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Lark Camp World Music, Song & Dance Camp 2007 Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:48:02 -0600 To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu This may be totally off topic, but Sami Abu Saumay has a podcast =20 called "Personal Performances," and he has about 4 or 5 episodes that =20= features musicians from Lark Camp (camp 3 to be exact). You can hear =20 these for free at: http://shumays.libsyn.com/ On Dec 7, 2006, at 11:24 AM, Beth Zekley wrote: > Lark Camp - Celebration Of World Music, Song & Dance 2007 > July 27 - August 4, 2007 at the Mendocino Woodlands, Mendocino, =20 > California > > Registration For Lark Camp 2007 Is Open > Camp sold out last year so register early. > > Register now! > We won't cash your check or run your credit card till January 1, 2007 > > Check out the Lark Camp Website: http://www.larkcamp.com > Online Registration: https://secure1.mcn.org/b/larkcamp/order.html > > Lark Camp 2007 Poster PDF: http://www.larkcamp.com/larkcampflyer.pdf > > 27th Year Of Lark Camp > Music and Dance from the World Over > Music & Dance Workshops * Cabins * Dances * Parties * Sessions * > Great Food * Dance Hall * Dining Hall * Camping * Fire Circles * > Mendocino Woodlands Redwoods > Full Camp 8 Days or Half Camp 4 Days > > New workshop and session area for swing, brass and late night louder > sessions in Camp 2. The "Roadhouse" will be open in a new location > for lots of fun! A place for loud music so the quiet music can happen > also. > > LARK CAMP STAFF 2007 > > Many hours of downloadable MP3 music of the Lark Camp staff and more > information is available at: > http://www.larkcamp.com/staff.html > ******************************* > DANCE INSTRUCTORS > > Jason Adajian - Morris & Sword Dance > > Toby Blome - Scandinavian Folk Dance > > Shirleigh Brannon - Irish Ceili & Step Dance, Irish Hardshoe > > Harriet Bye - Tango > > Debbie Dawson - French Dance > > Malaika Finkelstein - Beginning Swing (East Coast & Charleston), > Intermediate Swing (Lindy Hop) > > Sharon Green - English Country Dance > > Erik Hoffman - Contras, Squares, Waltzes, Couple Dances, Ham-Bone > > Robyn Mahealani Kneubuhl - Hula > > Antonea Leftheriotis - Greek Dance > > Janis Reynolds - Irish Set Dancing > > Larry Sawyer - Tango > > Yael Schy - Appalachian Clogging, Cajun & Zydeco Dance > > Robin "Dameshe" Shumays - Egyptian-Style Belly Dance > > Elizabeth Strong - Belly Dancing, Turkish Gypsy Dance > > Katerina Tom=E1s "Mojacar" - Flamenco Dance > > Sue Williard - Balkan Dance > ******************************* > MUSIC & VOCAL INSTRUCTORS > > Tami Allen - Cajun & Zydeco Slow Jam & Rub Board > > Kim Atkinson - Embody Rhythm, Brazilian Percussion, Hand Drumming > > Edmond Badoux "Chaskinakuy" - Music Of The Andes, Charango, Panpipe =20= > Ensemble > > Vassil Bebelekov - Bulgarian Music, Gaida (Bulgarian Bagpipe) > > Mark Bell - Middle Eastern Drumming > > Shay Black - Irish Chorus Songs, Sea Songs And More > > Evo Bluestein - Autoharp, Cajun Fiddle > > Claudette Boudreaux - Cajun & Creole Button Accordion, Cajun French =20= > Songs > > Hank Bradley - Greek Bouzouki & Music, Original Fiddle Tunes And More > > Maureen Brennan - Celtic Harp > > David Brown - Hot Jazz and Swing, New Orleans Style > > Kevin Brown - Hawaiian Slack Key Guitar, Ukulele, Hawaiian Songs > > Carlo Calabi - Carter Family Style Country Guitar > > Dan Cantrell - Balkan & Rom Music > > Danny Carnahan - Octave Mandolin, Songwriting > > Kevin Carr - French Canadian Session, Irish Tenor Banjo, Gaita Band > > Chris Caswell - Celtic Harp, Guerilla Music Theory > > Penny Cloud - French Hurdy Gurdy > > Richard Cooper - Brazilian Choro Music > > Dave Cory - Irish Tenor Banjo Tunes & Techniques > > Joe Craven - Thinking Outside The Box And Playing On It, Fiddling The > First Day - The Bow, The Engine Room And Introduction To Fiddling! > BYOV* (*bring your own violin) > > Robert Crawford - Story Telling > > Heath Curdts - Old Time Banjo, Old Time Duo/Trio > > Debbie Dawson - French Music > > Stephen Dick "Mojacar" - Flamenco Guitar & Accompaniment, Flamenco > Rhythms, Songs And Percussion > > Connie Doolan - Swing Vocals > > Tony Elman - The Lark Polyrhythm Choir - African, Cuban, Sacred > Chants & Songs, Mokale' RhythmSong Circle - A Magical Polyrhythm > Journey > > Sinan Erdemsel - Turkish Music Ensemble > > Chuck Ervin - Basic Swing Bass > > Marla Fibish - Irish Mandolin > > Steve Forman - Bodhran > > Ryan Francesconi - Bulgarian Music, Bulgarian Ensemble > > Philip Gelb - Shakuhachi (Japanese Flute) > > Jack Gilder - Irish Music on the Anglo System Concertina, Irish =20 > Flute > > Wayne Hankin - Playing =46rom the Top-Playing Lead, Ensemble Singing > > Peter Heelan - Uilleann Pipes, Reed Making > > Karen Heil - Old Time Fiddle, Old Time Guitar, Old Time Duo/Trio > > James Hendricks - Songs Of The Sea & Civil War > > Sylvia Herold - Beginning & Intermediate Swing Guitar > > Wayne Hill - Make And Play A Didgeridoo For Kids, Music Exploration =20= > For Kids > > Erik Hoffman - Contra Dance Band Lab For All Instruments, Beginning > Swing Fiddle > > Paul Hostetter - Italian Mandolin & Guitar, One On One Guitar, Or > Other Fretted Instruments > > Washtub Jerry - Learn Uke Chords Using Neighborhood Concept > > Wael Kakish - Arabic Music Ensemble - Instrumental (Oud and others), > Percussion (Darabukka & Tambourine) and Vocal (Simple Traditional > Songs) from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan > > Shira Kammen - English Country Dance Music, Early Round Singing > > Jeremy Kammerer - Old Time Irish Music > > Alan Keith - Highland Bagpipes (All you need is a practice chanter), > Button Accordion > > David Kilpatrick - Mexican Musica Ranchera > > Rebecca King - English Country Dance Music Slow Jam > > Chris Knepper - Contra Dance Band Lab For All Instruments, > Intermediate Irish Fiddle > > Robyn Mahealani Kneubuhl - Hawaiian Ukulele > > Butch Kwan - Kids Guitar, Blues Fiddle > > Russ Landers - African Music =46rom Zimbabwe, Mbira, Marimba, = Mouthbow, > Song and more > > Pam Laughlin - Swing Improv, Bb Instrument Ensemble > > Robert Laughlin - Gypsy Jazz Guitar > > Ian Law - Pennywhistle, Ocarina Orchestra > > Wanda Law - Beginning Fiddle > > Georgios Leftheriotis - Greek Music & Fiddle > > Louis Leger - French Canadian Songs, Quebecois Button Accordion > > Franny Leopold - Old Time Harmony Singing And Back-up Guitar > > Bertram Levy - Tango Music > > Nada Lewis - Klezmer, Romanian, Ukrainian Tunes > > Richard Mandel - DADGAD Irish Guitar > > Izzy Martin - Madrigal Singing > > Manose - Bansuri (Bamboo) Flute, The Music Of Nepal And India > > Gregg Moore - World Band (Bring Your Band Instruments: Horns, > Clarinets, Saxophones, Flutes, Piccolos, Drums Etc.) Brass Band Music > =46rom India, Serbia, Peru, Brazil, Africa, Surinam, Indonesia, = Mexico, > Bolivia And More > > Mark Nelson - Hawaiian Slack Key Guitar, Fun With Your Ukulele > > Dan Newton - Beginning & Advanced Piano Accordion > > Bobbi Shearn Nikles - Kids Fiddle > > Eric Peterson - Beginning Guitar Boot Camp > > Robin Petrie - Hammered Dulcimer Repertoire & Technique > > Paul Rangell - Old And New World Mandolin, Rhythm Guitar Workshop > > WB Reid - Old Time String Band Songs, Intermediate Guitar > > Dale Russ - Irish Fiddle A-Z > > Gregg Schneeman - Bowed Psaltery > > Erin Shrader - Irish Songs & Fiddle > > Sami Shumays - Arabic Music & Violin > > Bon Singer - Advanced Balkan Singing Technique, Balkan Song Favorites > > John Skelton - Irish Flute, Breton Music > > Lila Sklar - Balkan, Turkish & Middle Eastern Violin > > Nils Olof S=F6derb=E4ck - Old Swedish Waltzes For All Instruments > (emphasis on fiddle), Tunes That I Love: Great Tunes from Many > Traditions - Sweden, Portugal, India, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, > Nepal and more > > Susan Spurlock - Lark Camp Kids Play > > Judy Stavely - Old Time Slow Session, Old Time Cross Tuned Fiddle > > Peter Sumner - Mandolin Boot Camp > > Pam Swan - Mouth Music Around The World > > Holly Tannen - Mountain Dulcimer, The Three Stages of Songwriting > > Benezra Tergis - Latin Big Band > > Simo Tesla - Serbian Ensemble > > Katerina Tom=E1s "Mojacar" - Flamenco Rhythms, Songs And Percussion > > Francy Vidal "Chaskinakuy" - Music Of The Andes, Kena, Bombo, Andean > Rhythms, Andean Panpipe Ensemble > > Paul Wernick - Greek & Rebetika Music Session > > Cathie Whitesides - Greek Violin & Music, Contra Dance Fiddle > > Vickie Yancy - French Music & Button Accordion > > Bonnie Zahnow - Old Time Music Jam, Beginning Guitar > > Daniel Zamalloa "Chaskinakuy" - Fiddle Styles Of The Andes, =20 > Peruvian Guitar > > Radim Zenkl - Bluegrass and Eastern European Mandolin, Swing Mandolin > ******************************* > KIDS WORKSHOPS > > Robert Crawford - Storytelling > > Wayne Hill - Make And Play A Didgeridoo For Kids, Music Exploration =20= > For Kids > > Butch Kwan - Kids Guitar > > Mendocino Woodlands Naturalist Staff - Woodlands Nature Studies, > Games & Crafts For Kids > > Bobbi Shearn Nikles - Kids Fiddle > > Susan Spurlock - Lark Camp Kids Play > > Teamo Tenorio - Juggling For All Ages > > MORE CHILDREN'S WORKSHOPS TO BE ADDED > ******************************* > Send for a reservation form or check out our > Website http://www.larkcamp.com > Register online. https://secure1.mcn.org/b/larkcamp/order.html > > -- > > Musically yours, > Beth Zekley > > *** LARK CAMP *** > PO Box 1176 Mendocino, California 95460 USA > Lark Camp Phone (707) 964-4826 > email beth-AT-larkcamp.com > Lark Camp Website http://www.larkcamp.com > Mickie & Elizabeth Website http://www.celticweddingmusic.net > > *** MENDOCINO ENGLISH COUNTRY DANCES *** > http://www.larkcamp.com/mendoengdance.htm > Phone (707) 964-4826 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 02:16:38 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <006d01c71ab1$e67b1cb0$1800000a-AT-asstlibrarian> From: "Elaine Bradtke" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: Subject: [ECD] Dance and ageing Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:16:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This may prove useful to folks in the UK, please pass it on to interested parties. Sorry about the weird formatting codes, that's the way it was sent to me. Elaine Bradtke . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:22:12 -0500 From: tomie hahn Subject: [ECD] CFP: Dance and Aging Subject: [ECD] Dance and Ageing Conference: Marks of Time The Aspire Trust in collaboration with the South Asian Dance company, =20= Chaturangan, and Liverpool Hope University, are delighted to invite =20 you to an innovative, international conference on the theme of dance =20 and ageing: Marks of Time. This is an excellent opportunity to meet, discuss, dance and watch, =20 and to gain experience in the field of dance and ageing. As you know, =20= this exciting field is just opening up, with new opportunities in =20 community dancing with older people opening up new job opportunities =20 following the government's 'Health and Older People' agenda. It is =20 expected this will mean that community dance will get a higher =20 priority, so this is your opportunity to make that happen and shape =20 the agenda by contributing to policy around older people and dance. =20 It is also a great opportunity for those who have not experienced =20 working with older people to do so in a safe, workshop environment. We have an amazing line up of contributors, including: * Diane Amans (Freedom in Dance) * Professor Christopher Bannerman (Middlesex University) * Ken Bartlett (Director, Foundation for Community Dance) * Els van Buren-Walvis (Holland) * Ann Dickie * Sheila Dickie * Fergus Early * Jackie Guy * Donald Hutera * Debbie Lee-Anthony * Francois Mattaraso (Chair, Arts Council, East Midlands) * Mary Prestige * Bisakha Sarker * Chitra Sunderam (editor, "Pulse" magazine, UK ) * Tim Tubbs (UK Foundation for Dance) The conference will take place at in Liverpool between 12 and 13 January 2007 and will be of particular interest to dancers, educators, health =20= workers, senior citizens, students and all those interested in how =20 innovative dance practice can be developed with elders. The fees for the conference are as follows: Independent artists and other practitioners =A355 Senior Citizens and concessions =A355 Individuals from large organisations / public sector etc =A3155 The fees provide the opportunity to attend both days of the =20 conference proceedings, attendance at the Friday Evening performances =20= and lunch and refreshments on both days. Group discounts of 10% are =20 available if a group of 10 or more is able to make a booking. For further booking information please contact me at the address =20 below or via email. Similarly, if you know anyone who might be =20 interested in attending the conference please pass on this =20 information to them. Best wishes Nick Owen Aspire Trust The Oldershaw School Valkyrie Rd Wallasey CH45 4RJ Tel. 0151 639 9231 Web http://www.chaturangan.co.uk/ Maria Barrett Liverpool Institute for Performing Arts Mount Street L1 9HF Tel 0151 330 3028 Fax 0151330 3131 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 04:43:16 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "allisonthompson-AT-juno.com" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:41:31 GMT To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] minuets at Bath Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J41c6.167eS.2781M" Message-ID: <20061208.044147.26494.1424005-AT-webmail51.nyc.untd.com> ----__JWM__J41c6.167eS.2781M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain For a friend who is writing a novella... In 1799, would the first two dances in the Lower Rooms in Bath still be = minuets? Or could you arrive after they were over & jump right into the = country dances? Would a young married couple be interested in minuets at= this point? I have my thoughts on this but want to see the answers first. Thanks Allison ----__JWM__J41c6.167eS.2781M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html

For a friend who is writing a novella...

In 1799, would the first two dances in the Lower Rooms in Bath still = be minuets? Or could you arrive after they were over & jump right in= to the country dances? Would a young married couple be interested in min= uets at this point?

I have my thoughts on this but want to see the answers first.

Thanks

Allison

----__JWM__J41c6.167eS.2781M-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 08:00:07 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu From: Leahbarkan-AT-aol.com Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:59:38 EST Subject: Re: [ECD] Phil Merrill recordings? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had the pleasure and privilege of being able to sit and play alongside of Phil when I first starting to play for dancing. Phil, as I understood, was an excellent dancer in his youth, and his playing was, first and foremost, danceable. His musical taste, in my opinion, was impeccable. He was capable of lovely improvisations, was very witty and could throw in odd musical jokes from time to time,- but never at the expense of the dance quality. Leah Barkan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:14:02 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:07:16 -0500 From: "Gene Murrow" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: RE: [ECD] Dance and ageing To: Message-ID: <00ad01c71aeb$509ef560$0200a8c0-AT-DELLLAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is anybody from EFDSS or CDSS going to this officially, or even unofficially? I think we as dance leaders/organizers/promoters should be aware of the tangible benefits of what seems to be growing documented evidence of a connection between dance and health, and we should also be careful to avoid myths and hype. If this conference has something substantial to contribute, it would be great to have a report. Gene Gene Murrow 340 Riverside Drive, #10A New York, NY 10025 (646) 342 - 8145 gmurrow-AT-post.harvard.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu > [mailto:owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of > Elaine Bradtke > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 5:16 AM > To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu > Subject: [ECD] Dance and ageing > > This may prove useful to folks in the UK, please pass it on > to interested parties. Sorry about the weird formatting > codes, that's the way it was sent to me. > > Elaine Bradtke > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . > Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:22:12 -0500 > From: tomie hahn > Subject: [ECD] CFP: Dance and Aging > > Subject: [ECD] Dance and Ageing Conference: Marks of Time > > The Aspire Trust in collaboration with the South Asian Dance > company, =20= > > Chaturangan, and Liverpool Hope University, are delighted to > invite =20 you to an innovative, international conference on > the theme of dance =20 and ageing: Marks of Time. > This is an excellent opportunity to meet, discuss, dance and > watch, =20 and to gain experience in the field of dance and > ageing. As you know, =20= > > this exciting field is just opening up, with new > opportunities in =20 community dancing with older people > opening up new job opportunities =20 following the > government's 'Health and Older People' agenda. It is =20 > expected this will mean that community dance will get a > higher =20 priority, so this is your opportunity to make that > happen and shape =20 the agenda by contributing to policy > around older people and dance. =20 It is also a great > opportunity for those who have not experienced =20 working > with older people to do so in a safe, workshop environment. > We have an amazing line up of contributors, including: > * Diane Amans (Freedom in Dance) > * Professor Christopher Bannerman (Middlesex University) > * Ken Bartlett (Director, Foundation for Community Dance) > * Els van Buren-Walvis (Holland) > * Ann Dickie > * Sheila Dickie > * Fergus Early > * Jackie Guy > * Donald Hutera > * Debbie Lee-Anthony > * Francois Mattaraso (Chair, Arts Council, East Midlands) > * Mary Prestige > * Bisakha Sarker > * Chitra Sunderam (editor, "Pulse" magazine, UK www.kadam.org.uk/pulse.php>) > * Tim Tubbs (UK Foundation for Dance) > The conference will take place at in Liverpool between 12 and > 13 January > 2007 and will be of particular interest to dancers, > educators, health =20= > > workers, senior citizens, students and all those interested > in how =20 innovative dance practice can be developed with elders. > The fees for the conference are as follows: > Independent artists and other practitioners =A355 Senior > Citizens and concessions =A355 Individuals from large > organisations / public sector etc =A3155 The fees provide the > opportunity to attend both days of the =20 conference > proceedings, attendance at the Friday Evening performances =20= > > and lunch and refreshments on both days. Group discounts of > 10% are =20 available if a group of 10 or more is able to > make a booking. > For further booking information please contact me at the > address =20 below or via email. Similarly, if you know anyone > who might be =20 interested in attending the conference > please pass on this =20 information to them. > Best wishes > Nick Owen > Aspire Trust > The Oldershaw School > Valkyrie Rd > Wallasey CH45 4RJ > Tel. 0151 639 9231 > Web http://www.chaturangan.co.uk/ > > Maria Barrett > Liverpool Institute for Performing Arts > Mount Street > L1 9HF > Tel 0151 330 3028 > Fax 0151330 3131 > > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:29:00 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [ECD] Phil Merrill recordings? Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:28:43 -0700 Message-ID: <075B7ABEEEF7E64ABD607460BFEFC5F29C7705-AT-wcosmb02.cos.agilent.com> From: Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: > Would anyone who heard him play care to offer a description or = reminiscence? From John Ramsay in St Louis: >Phil Merrill's fingers would quiver in readiness as >they hovered over the piano keys and then would >literally dance over the keys as they launched the >tune. He devoted his entire attention to making the >music and the dancers move. He understood body >kinetics as well as piano or accordion mechanics... He often >played while turned halfway toward the dancers, >watching their every move. John's description is not hyperbole. Phil was not only making great = dance music, he was making great dancing. Genny Shimer tried to get us = to move in a particular way one time, and we weren't getting it. She = said this, showed that, demonstrated and chided, tried again... and then = Phil figured it out. He played about 2% slower - absolutely steady at = that tempo, just as he had been at the previous tempo - and it was = obvious what Genny wanted. I need to raise a caution: Phil was microphone-shy, and his recordings = don't do him justice. Marshall said that by the time they played enough = to get him relaxed, he was too tired to record. I sometimes go back to = those recordings to hear Phil, but he's not there. -Bruce bruce_hamilton-AT-agilent.com Tel: +1 408 553 2818 Fax: +1 408 553 3487 Agilent Technologies MS 54U-SM P.O. Box 58059, Santa Clara, CA = 95051-7201 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:41:12 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:40:58 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Peterson Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: RE: [ECD] Phil Merrill recordings? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <639980.10794.qm-AT-web39706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- bruce_hamilton-AT-agilent.com wrote: > I need to raise a caution: Phil was microphone-shy, and his > recordings don't do him justice. Marshall said that by the time > they played enough to get him relaxed, he was too tired to record. > I sometimes go back to those recordings to hear Phil, but he's not > there. That is a very good description of how I've always felt aboiut those recordings. Andy in Portland ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 10:32:54 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <001501c71bc0$8ac22ac0$ee904a0c-AT-compaq14453453> From: "Paul Stamler" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: "ecd list" Subject: [ECD] ECD in London New Year's Eve? Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:33:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks: We'll be in London (UK, that is) on New Year's Eve (Sunday). Anyone know of a dance happening that night? Thanks! Peace, Paul ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 10:35:42 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <002201c71bc0$ef006600$ee904a0c-AT-compaq14453453> From: "Paul Stamler" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: "ecd list" Subject: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:36:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks: This query was posted on the "Tradsong" listserv. In view of our discussions of earlier days' Christmas customs, any info on the subject? Peace, Paul Joy usually goes out carol singing in Pitchcombe (nr Stroud Gloucestershire) around this time of year. This is a revived activity headed by Steve Rowley who lives in the village. The village is pretty, small and well healed. A glass of punch or apple/orange awaits the assemblage at many houses and Gwilym with members of the Gloucester side often participate carrying, the Devil knows what, probably Be-elzebub. But no dancing takes place. Now - one of the village asked the question. "Don't you dance at the same time?" The questioner would be in her 80's. What are the traditions for dancing at the same time as carol singing? Not something that has come to my attention, but then I am a townie. Mr Red ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 11:45:23 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <28135323-AT-retriever.VALLEY.NET> Date: 09 Dec 2006 14:45:01 EST From: David.Millstone-AT-valley.net (David Millstone) Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] Phil Merrill recordings? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain For those interested in learning more about Phil Merrill, Tom Phillips conducted a nice interview with him that can be found in Country Dance & Song, #14, May, 1984. ("Country Dance & Song" was for many years a more scholarly journal published by CDSS.) Long-time CDSS members might have back copies stored away, or perhaps a local library. It was from this interview that I learned that Phil started his dancing in Maine as a youth, which is why in addition to the ECD repertoire he also had such an understanding of traditional contras and squares. David Millstone ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 12:00:56 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:00:42 -0800 (PST) From: Deb Karl Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] ECD in London New Year's Eve? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <911723.90527.qm-AT-web31401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- Paul Stamler wrote: > We'll be in London (UK, that is) on New Year's Eve > (Sunday). Anyone know of > a dance happening that night? Thanks! Quick look at www.efdss.org ("what's on" page) shows: New Year=92s Eve Dance: Rob Sibthorpe with Dave Jolly and Friends. Celebrate the new year in style. Lively dance with great band and caller. All welcome - dances walked through and called. Bar, refreshments available For advance tickets, contact: 020 8731 8083 or lizhall-AT-care4free.net, or www.WeGotTickets.com Prices: =A314; =A313 in advance and/or concessions (over 60, or EFFDSS member). Accompanied children under 12: free; 12-16: =A38) =09 8pm - 1am=20 but I can't tell the type of dance being danced...=20 Elaine? Colin? Care to chime in? --Deb =20 _________________________________________________________________________= ___________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it= now. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:06:03 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "allisonthompson-AT-juno.com" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 01:03:22 GMT To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J446b.794bS.15fbM" Message-ID: <20061209.170416.29474.1434046-AT-webmail26.nyc.untd.com> ----__JWM__J446b.794bS.15fbM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain I am so pleased that some villages in England are healthfullly well-heal= ed, as opposed to so many suburbs here in the US that are merely well-he= eled. [Pause for scuffle: BAD BAD BAD! Now apologize nicely for the gentlem'm]= (Sullenly) Sorry. I've not seen any documentation of anything pre-dating 1900 that would i= nclude dancing in conjunction with singing a Christmas carol, but would = be delighted to be slapped upside the head about it. I would wager a dol= lar that the 80 year-old well-heeled questioner retains a memory of danc= ing/singing "Lord of the Dance"--or suchlike in her youth; and, if so, t= hat is itself an interesting question: where/how/from whom did she learn= it, etc. = Allison -- "Paul Stamler" wrote: Hi folks: This query was posted on the "Tradsong" listserv. In view of our discuss= ions of earlier days' Christmas customs, any info on the subject? Peace, Paul Joy usually goes out carol singing in Pitchcombe (nr Stroud Gloucestersh= ire) around this time of year. This is a revived activity headed by Steve Ro= wley who lives in the village. The village is pretty, small and well healed.= A glass of punch or apple/orange awaits the assemblage at many houses and Gwilym with members of the Gloucester side often participate carrying, t= he Devil knows what, probably Be-elzebub. But no dancing takes place. Now - one of the village asked the question. "Don't you dance at the same time?" The questioner would be in her 80's. What are the traditions for dancing at the same time as carol singing? = Not something that has come to my attention, but then I am a townie. Mr Red ----__JWM__J446b.794bS.15fbM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html

I am so pleased that some villages in England are healthfullly = well-healed, as opposed to so many suburbs here in the US that are merel= y well-heeled.

[Pause for scuffle: BAD BAD BAD! Now apologize nicely for the gentlem= 'm]

(Sullenly) Sorry.

I've not seen any documentation of anything pre-dating 1900 that woul= d include dancing in conjunction with singing a Christmas carol, bu= t would be delighted to be slapped upside the head about it. I would wag= er a dollar that the 80 year-old well-heeled questioner retains a memory= of dancing/singing "Lord of the Dance"--or suchlike in her youth; and, = if so, that is itself an interesting question: where/how/from whom did s= he learn it, etc.

Allison

-- "Paul Stamler" <pstamler-AT-pobox.com> = wrote:
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----__JWM__J446b.794bS.15fbM-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 18:19:12 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <457B6EB0.8000002-AT-sprintmail.com> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:19:28 -0500 From: Blank Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Phil Merrill recordings? References: <20061207162302.CUV92936-AT-ms05.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Mike, In 1974, I had the pleasure of doing some tapings of Phil and others at Pinewoods and later, more at Marshall Barron's house in Stamford. Some of these were for sale on audio cassettes from CDSS but that has been discontinued. The Society's library, which includes masters of the tapes, are now in the archives in New Hampshire. There were also a number of private recordings about. I remember a particularly lovely lacquer of Spanish Jig in which the opening grooves had been badly damaged, probably by a broken stylus. Certainly, Phil was all that has been said in this site. He had a keen wit and, wit May Gadd, a love of good scotch. I left him with an open bottle one afternoon while we were reviewing the tapes and, then, took him to the Larchmont dance, where he played for the evening dance. He managed quite well considering his state of sobriety but it was not at his stellar best. Albert Blank ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 00:19:11 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu From: Colin Hume Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: Deb Karl Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 08:18:57 GMT Message-ID: <2006121081857.680645-AT-Colin> Subject: Re: [ECD] ECD in London New Year's Eve? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:00:42 -0800 (PST), Deb Karl wrote: > but I can't tell the type of dance being danced... Lively simple dances aimed at a proportion of non-dancers. Sibby is a good caller, but he will not be doing his festival repertoire that evening. Probably "Traditional English and some contras" as a description of the style, though not what people in the States think of as English. The atmosphere will be great - it all depends on what you're expecting. Colin Hume Email colin-AT-colinhume.com Web site http://www.colinhume.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:55:44 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:54:59 -0500 To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu From: Mary Railing Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? ("Lord of the Dance" isn't exactly traditional, having been written by Sydney Carter...) The medieval custom of dancing to carols disappeared long before the twentieth century. If dancing to carols was regarded as "traditional" anywhere I would guess that it was because some well-meaning Victorian "revived" what he imagined of such ancient customs, and it stuck in his locality. However, dancing to carols, Christmas or otherwise, was the most common sort of dancing in the Middles Ages. --Mary Railing >I've not seen any documentation of anything pre-dating 1900 that would >include dancing in conjunction with singing a Christmas carol, but would >be delighted to be slapped upside the head about it. I would wager a >dollar that the 80 year-old well-heeled questioner retains a memory of >dancing/singing "Lord of the Dance"--or suchlike in her youth; and, if so, >that is itself an interesting question: where/how/from whom did she learn >it, etc. > >Allison ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:52:28 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: From: "Margherita Davis" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: RE: [ECD] Phil Merrill recordings? Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:52:11 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Would anyone who heard him play care to offer a description or=20 >reminiscence? It is amusing to read others=92 remembrances of Phil Merrill. I have my o= wn,=20 too. When I started dancing in New York, Phil was playing every Tuesday evenin= g.=20 His humor was most evident when he would demonstrate his opinion via the=20 keyboard. Whenever he felt that a dance had gone on long enough (maybe by= 13=20 rounds), he would start banging on the keyboard . To this day, I think of Phil whenever a longways goes on interminably,=20 wishing that Phil was there to convey that message to the caller. Margherita Davis _________________________________________________________________ Get the latest Windows Live Messenger 8.1 Beta version.=A0Join now.=20 http://ideas.live.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:53:12 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <20061212045254.13366.qmail-AT-web52405.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:52:54 -0800 (PST) From: Barbara Ruth Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] Registration Open for the 2007 Elm City Assembly To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable New Haven's annual midwinter ECD Ball, the Elm City Assembly = will take place on January 27, 2007.=0A=0AWe are pleased to announce that t= his year's Mistress of Ceremonies is noted New York caller and dance compos= er Orly Krasner who has put together an exceptional program of dances for o= ur delight.=0A=0A=0A=0A Music will be provided by = the incomparable Playford Consort composed of Marshall Barron, Phoebe Barro= n, Grace Feldman, Margaret Ann Martin.=0AAdvance Registration is required. = =0AMore information, and a registration form can be found at the following= link:=0Ahttp://pantheon.yale.edu/~bfr4/NH.English.html.=0A=0ABall attendee= s are encouraged to come for the Friday night English dance at the Neighbo= rhood Music School on January 26, led by Peggy Vermilya. More information= on the Friday night dance is also available at the link above.=0A = =0A=0A=0A=0A=0AMore ball information:=0A=0AAfternoon dance review 1:30 -= 4:00 p.m.=0A =0A =0AEvening program: 7:00 - 11:00 p.= m. =0A =0A =0Aat St. Thomas's Episcopal Church=0A= =0A 830 Whitney Ave., New Haven, CT=0A=0A=0AProgram:=0A=0A=0A=0ABarbar= ini=A2s=0ATambourine=0A=0A=0ABonny Cuckoo=0A=0A=0ACome, Let=A2s=0ABe Merry= =0A=0A=0AExcuse Me=0A=0A=0AHeartsease=0A=0A=0ALeather Lake House=0A=0A=0ALi= lli=0ABurlero=0A=0A=0AMr. Isaac=A2s=0AMaggot=0A=0A=0ANews From Tripoli=0A= =0A=0AOre Boggy=0A=0A=0APortsmouth=0A=0A=0AThe Pursuit=0A=0A=0ARose of=0ASh= aron=0A=0A=0ARosamond=A2s=0APond=0A=0A=0ASaint=0AMargaret=A2s Hill=0A=0A=0A= Trip to=0ATunbridge=0A=0A=0AWa=A2 Is Me=0A=0A=0AWhen Laura=0ASmiles=0A=0A= =0AWibsey=0ARoundabout=0A=0A=0AWoodstock Park=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A= =0A=0A=0A FOR EXPERIENCED ENGLISH COUNTRY DANCERS=0A=0A = Dances=0Awill be walked-through briefly and prompted. Attendees shoul= d have=0Asufficient ECD ability to know the basic figures and be able to da= nce=0Athem without further instruction.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A"It is my sup= position that the Universe is not only queerer than we imagine, it is queer= er than we can imagine." =0AJ.B.S. Haldane (British geneticist 1892-1964)= =0A=0A=0A ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:50:03 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <003c01c71dd2$d85c1700$1800000a-AT-asstlibrarian> From: "Elaine Bradtke" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: Subject: [ECD] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:49:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My, my, that woman has a looooong memory. The carol was a traditional dance/song way back in pre-Elizabethan days - 11th century off the top of my head. Maybe she's seen morris dancers performing to carols. That's not unheard of, though the purists on the morris dancing discussion list seem to think it's 'naff'. Elaine ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:01:45 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:01:29 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Peterson Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: RE: [ECD] Phil Merrill recordings? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <725271.31632.qm-AT-web39704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- Margherita Davis wrote: > > Would anyone who heard him play care to offer a description or=20 > >reminiscence? >=20 > It is amusing to read others=92 remembrances of Phil Merrill. I have > my own, too. >=20 > When I started dancing in New York, Phil was playing every Tuesday > evening. His humor was most evident when he would demonstrate his > opinion via the keyboard. Whenever he felt that a dance had gone > on long enough (maybe by 13 rounds), he would start banging on the > keyboard . I also remember him stopping the music very abruptly when the dancers were doing something particularly badly. Andy in Portland =20 _________________________________________________________________________= ___________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:13:25 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:12:40 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Peterson Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <224878.29263.qm-AT-web39706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "allisonthompson-AT-juno.com" wrote: > I've not seen any documentation of anything pre-dating 1900 that > would include dancing in conjunction with singing a Christmas > carol, but would be delighted to be slapped upside the head about > it. I would wager a dollar that the 80 year-old well-heeled > questioner retains a memory of dancing/singing "Lord of the > Dance"--or suchlike in her youth; and, if so, that is itself an > interesting question: where/how/from whom did she learn it, etc. > Allison It seems to me that the dance that we see done to "Lord of the Dance" was something that Shag and Jack Langstaff (and maybe others ... Tom Kruskal?) created for Revels. Is there another one? And of course the tune for "Lord of the Dance" is an old Shaker tune. The Shakers may have danced to it, since they were known to dance. I remember doing a very gentle dance to "Simple Gifts" taught by Brad Foster at the end of the last evening at Brasstown one year. Andy in Portland ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:22:11 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:21:18 -0800 (PST) From: John Ramsay Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: RE: [ECD] Phil Merrill recordings? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <33623.287.qm-AT-web82813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Ramsay here in St Louis-- Or once at the Craftsman's Fair in Asheville NC where Phil was the regular musician for the performers, he was unhappy with the dancing at the practice session=97and a bit inebriated=97and insisted that we provide our own music by doodling. He had a valid point=97dancers should know more about making good dance music. --- Andy Peterson wrote: > --- Margherita Davis > wrote: > > > Would anyone who heard him play care to offer > a description or=20 > > >reminiscence? > >=20 > > It is amusing to read others=92 remembrances of Phil > Merrill. I have > > my own, too. > >=20 > > When I started dancing in New York, Phil was > playing every Tuesday > > evening. His humor was most evident when he would > demonstrate his > > opinion via the keyboard. Whenever he felt that a > dance had gone > > on long enough (maybe by 13 rounds), he would > start banging on the > > keyboard . >=20 > I also remember him stopping the music very abruptly > when the dancers > were doing something particularly badly. >=20 > Andy in Portland >=20 >=20 > =20 > _________________________________________________________________________= ___________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail > beta. > http://new.mail.yahoo.com >=20 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:51:15 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:41:27 -0800 (PST) From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing Subject: Re: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? To: ECD-AT-SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <01MAOHIBZN6S95NVJI-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 > --- "allisonthompson-AT-juno.com" wrote: > > I've not seen any documentation of anything pre-dating 1900 that > > would include dancing in conjunction with singing a Christmas > > carol, but would be delighted to be slapped upside the head about > > it. I would wager a dollar that the 80 year-old well-heeled > > questioner retains a memory of dancing/singing "Lord of the > > Dance"--or suchlike in her youth; and, if so, that is itself an > > interesting question: where/how/from whom did she learn it, etc. > > Allison > It seems to me that the dance that we see done to "Lord of the Dance" > was something that Shag and Jack Langstaff (and maybe others ... Tom > Kruskal?) created for Revels. When Jack Langstaff was out here directing the first Bay Area Revels 20-some years ago, he said his daughter had choreographed the morris dance. (The dance is syncretist, combining capers from different tradition to illustrate the Sydney Carter lyrics.) The get-the-audience-up-and-wander-around dance doesn't really require choreography. > Is there another one? And of course the > tune for "Lord of the Dance" is an old Shaker tune. The Shakers may > have danced to it, since they were known to dance. But not, particularly, in recognizable country dance formats. (Given their willingness to create songs in languages they didn't speak and call the resulting gibberish "German" or "French", it wouldn't have been inconsistent if they called their divinely-inspired circle and blob dances "English Country Dances", but that wouldn't have made them English Country dances. No partnering, for one thing. (Dover has a book of Shaker music and dance which I read some years ago.) > I remember doing a very gentle dance to "Simple Gifts" taught by Brad > Foster at the end of the last evening at Brasstown one year. Dudley Laufman's daughter (drawing a blank now, or I'd grant her her own name - did a contra-ish dance to "Simple Gifts", which I think may appear in "Legacy".) And after that first Bay Area revels, Bob Fraley (who had been one of the Lord of the Dance morris men) lead a dance at the Palo Alto English series to "Simple Gifts" that he called "The Christmas Revels"; I assumed it was his own choreography. -- Alan -- =============================================================================== Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 =============================================================================== ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:55:26 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:55:12 -0800 (PST) From: John Ramsay Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <763623.97787.qm-AT-web82810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> John Ramsay here in St Louis... Pat Shaw was delighted with Miss Laufman's Simple Gifts, made a few adaptations and taught it, perhaps at Pinewoods. I took it from there to Berea and, with a few more adaptations or conventions, added it to the Berea Country Dancers performing repertoire. We took it around the world. --- Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > > Dudley Laufman's daughter (drawing a blank now, or > I'd grant her her own name - > did a contra-ish dance to "Simple Gifts", which I > think may appear in > "Legacy".) And after that first Bay Area revels, > Bob Fraley (who had been one > of the Lord of the Dance morris men) lead a dance at > the Palo Alto English > series to "Simple Gifts" that he called "The > Christmas Revels"; I assumed it > was his own choreography. > > -- Alan > > -- > =============================================================================== > Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU > Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or > SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 > Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill > Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 > =============================================================================== > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 04:54:22 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu From: "Mo" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: Subject: RE: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:54:00 -0000 Message-ID: <004101c71f7e$eefee110$0801a8c0-AT-Mo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And didn't Pat write a second tune for it 'Shaker Follow On'? -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [mailto:owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of John Ramsay Sent: 14 December 2006 02:55 To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? John Ramsay here in St Louis... Pat Shaw was delighted with Miss Laufman's Simple Gifts, made a few adaptations and taught it, perhaps at Pinewoods. I took it from there to Berea and, with a few more adaptations or conventions, added it to the Berea Country Dancers performing repertoire. We took it around the world. --- Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > > Dudley Laufman's daughter (drawing a blank now, or > I'd grant her her own name - > did a contra-ish dance to "Simple Gifts", which I > think may appear in > "Legacy".) And after that first Bay Area revels, > Bob Fraley (who had been one > of the Lord of the Dance morris men) lead a dance at > the Palo Alto English > series to "Simple Gifts" that he called "The > Christmas Revels"; I assumed it > was his own choreography. > > -- Alan > > -- > ============================================================================ === > Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU > Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or > SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 > Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill > Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 > ============================================================================ === > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/586 - Release Date: 13/12/2006 18:13 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/586 - Release Date: 13/12/2006 18:13 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 05:21:44 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "allisonthompson-AT-juno.com" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:20:01 GMT To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: RE: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J41c6.167eS.2781M" Message-ID: <20061214.052007.29818.1465641-AT-webmail27.nyc.untd.com> ----__JWM__J41c6.167eS.2781M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain What is the choreography for this dance? Allison -- "Mo" wrote: And didn't Pat write a second tune for it 'Shaker Follow On'? -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [mailto:owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of John Ramsay Sent: 14 December 2006 02:55 To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? John Ramsay here in St Louis... Pat Shaw was delighted with Miss Laufman's Simple Gifts, made a few adaptations and taught it, perhaps at Pinewoods. I took it from there to Berea and, with a few more adaptations or conventions, added it to the Berea Country Dancers performing repertoire. We took it around the world. --- Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > > Dudley Laufman's daughter (drawing a blank now, or > I'd grant her her own name - > did a contra-ish dance to "Simple Gifts", which I > think may appear in > "Legacy".) And after that first Bay Area revels, > Bob Fraley (who had been one > of the Lord of the Dance morris men) lead a dance at > the Palo Alto English > series to "Simple Gifts" that he called "The > Christmas Revels"; I assumed it > was his own choreography. > > -- Alan > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D > Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU > Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or > SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 > Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill > Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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What is the choreography for this dance?

Allison

-- "Mo" <mjw-AT-MOWADDINGTON.PLUS.COM>&nb= sp;wrote:
And didn't Pat write a second = ;tune for it 'Shaker Follow On'?

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John Ramsay here in St&n= bsp;Louis...

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----__JWM__J41c6.167eS.2781M-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 06:46:25 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:45:52 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Stewart, Hugh" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: It was written by a 16 year old Heidi Laufman, Dudley said:- =20 Anyroad it went like this: Duple proper. All siding twice/Active couple down the center, turn and come back to cast off improper/Ladies chain (over & back)/Quarter turn to right and balance, quarter turn to right and balance in place.(Only the actives balanced and there was no handclapping.) (When I danced it the caller described the lead down, turn as a couple back and cast as: lead down 4 steps, half turn, gates up. We had Shaw Siding: in to line right shoulders, and then left.) ________________________________ From: owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [mailto:owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of allisonthompson-AT-juno.com Sent: 14 December 2006 13:20 To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: RE: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? =09 =09 What is the choreography for this dance? Allison =09 -- "Mo" wrote: And didn't Pat write a second tune for it 'Shaker Follow On'? =09 -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [mailto:owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of John Ramsay Sent: 14 December 2006 02:55 To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? =09 John Ramsay here in St Louis... =09 Pat Shaw wa d s delighted with Miss Laufman's Simple Gifts, made a few adaptations and taught it, perhaps at Pinewoods. I took it from there to Berea and, with a few more adaptations or conventions, added it to the Berea Country Dancers performing repertoire. We took it around the world. =09 =09 --- Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > > Dudley Laufman's daughter (drawing a blank now, or > I'd grant her her own name - > did a contra-ish dance to "Simple Gifts", which I > think may appear in > "Legacy".) And after that first Bay Area revels, > Bob Fraley (who had been one > of the Lord of the Dance morris men) lead a dance at > the Palo Alto English > series to "Simple Gifts" that he called "The > Christmas Revels"; I assumed it > was his own choreography. > > -- Alan > > -- > =09 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D > Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU > Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or > SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 > Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill > Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 > =09 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D > > =09 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/586 - Release Date: 13/12/2006 18:13 =09 =09 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/586 - Release Date: 13/12/2006 18:13 =09 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:51:04 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: RE: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Campbell Kaynor Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 18:50:45 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" This dance is still part of our "contra" repertoire although I usually only do it on special occasions. At the time Heidi wrote it, we only did the C# siding so that is how she had us do it, and I stick with that just because it reminds me of the fun we had back then. One good thing about dances like this is the dancers generally know the words and enjoy dancing to their own singing. Sometimes the band joins the dance and we end clapping to an empty stage. Cammy "Stewart, Hugh" Sent by: owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu 14-Dec-2006 09:45 AM Please respond to ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Message Size: 5.6 KB To cc Subject RE: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? It was written by a 16 year old Heidi Laufman, Dudley said:- Anyroad it went like this: Duple proper. All siding twice/Active couple down the center, turn and come back to cast off improper/Ladies chain (over & back)/Quarter turn to right and balance, quarter turn to right and balance in place.(Only the actives balanced and there was no handclapping.) (When I danced it the caller described the lead down, turn as a couple back and cast as: lead down 4 steps, half turn, gates up. We had Shaw Siding: in to line right shoulders, and then left.) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:48:30 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:48:16 -0800 (PST) From: John Ramsay Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: RE: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <665455.29540.qm-AT-web82811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From John Ramsay in St Louis... Thanks to Hugh for Heidi's name and the dance instructions. Are these Heidi's instructions or for Pat Shaw's "Shaker Follow On?" In any event if anyone is interested, the Berea Country Dancers' version of Simple Gifts was: Longways, duple, proper A 8 counts Lines forward and back 8 counts Right hand star halfway and fall back, improper for all 16 counts Repeat pattern to places B 16 counts First Couples lead down the center (arms around partner's waist), turn as a couple, come back and assisted cast off (arms around neighbor's waist) C 8 counts First Couples Petronella turn in four counts while the Second Couples turn single in place (on the words "turn, turn") and all balance right and left on the remaining four counts 8 counts All turn single four counts so that First Couples are progressed and proper while the Second Couples turn single in progressed places; all balance on the right foot and place right foot next to the left (no hop) on the last four counts --- "Stewart, Hugh" wrote: > It was written by a 16 year old Heidi Laufman, > Dudley said:- > > Anyroad it went like this: Duple proper. All > siding twice/Active couple down the center, turn and > come > back to cast off improper/Ladies chain (over & > back)/Quarter > turn to right and balance, quarter turn to right and > balance > in place.(Only the actives balanced and there was no > handclapping.) > > (When I danced it the caller described the lead > down, turn as > a couple back and cast as: lead down 4 steps, half > turn, gates up. > We had Shaw Siding: in to line right shoulders, and > then left.) > > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu > [mailto:owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu] On > Behalf Of > allisonthompson-AT-juno.com > Sent: 14 December 2006 13:20 > To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu > Subject: RE: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing > with dancing? > Ideas? > > > > What is the choreography for this dance? > > Allison > > -- "Mo" wrote: > And didn't Pat write a second tune for it 'Shaker > Follow On'? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu > [mailto:owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu] On > Behalf Of John > Ramsay > Sent: 14 December 2006 02:55 > To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu > Subject: Re: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing > with dancing? > Ideas? > > John Ramsay here in St Louis... > > Pat Shaw wa d s delighted with Miss Laufman's > Simple > Gifts, made a few adaptations and taught it, > perhaps > at Pinewoods. I took it from there to Berea and, > with > a few more adaptations or conventions, added it to > the > Berea Country Dancers performing repertoire. We > took > it around the world. > > > --- Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing > wrote: > > > > Dudley Laufman's daughter (drawing a blank now, > or > > I'd grant her her own name - > > did a contra-ish dance to "Simple Gifts", which I > > think may appear in > > "Legacy".) And after that first Bay Area revels, > > Bob Fraley (who had been one > > of the Lord of the Dance morris men) lead a dance > at > > the Palo Alto English > > series to "Simple Gifts" that he called "The > > Christmas Revels"; I assumed it > > was his own choreography. > > > > -- Alan > > > > -- > > > > ======================================================================== > ==== > === > > Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU > > Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or > > SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 > > Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand > Hill > > Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 > > > > ======================================================================== > ==== > === > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/586 - > Release Date: > 13/12/2006 > 18:13 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/586 - > Release Date: > 13/12/2006 > 18:13 > > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 03:24:05 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Simple Gifts Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:23:31 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Stewart, Hugh" Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: These are Dudley Laufman's interpretation of Heidi's instructions. The bracketed comment about Shaw siding was mine; Cammy Kaynor reported that the original was with Cecil Sharp siding. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu=20 > [mailto:owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of John Ramsay > Sent: 15 December 2006 03:48 > To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu > Subject: RE: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? >=20 > From John Ramsay in St Louis... >=20 > Thanks to Hugh for Heidi's name and the dance > instructions. Are these Heidi's instructions or for > Pat Shaw's "Shaker Follow On?" >=20 > In any event if anyone is interested, the Berea > Country Dancers' version of Simple Gifts was: >=20 > Longways, duple, proper > A 8 counts Lines forward and back > 8 counts Right hand star halfway and fall back, > improper for all > 16 counts Repeat pattern to places > B 16 counts First Couples lead down the center (arms > around partner's waist), turn as a couple, come back > and assisted cast off (arms around neighbor's waist) > C 8 counts First Couples Petronella turn in four > counts while the Second Couples turn single in place > (on the words "turn, turn") and all balance right and > left on the remaining four counts > 8 counts All turn single four counts so that > First Couples are progressed and proper while the > Second Couples turn single in progressed places; all > balance on the right foot and place right foot next to > the left (no hop) on the last four counts >=20 > --- "Stewart, Hugh" wrote: >=20 > > It was written by a 16 year old Heidi Laufman, > > Dudley said:- > > > > Anyroad it went like this: Duple proper. All > > siding twice/Active couple down the center, turn and > > come > > back to cast off improper/Ladies chain (over & > > back)/Quarter > > turn to right and balance, quarter turn to right and > > balance > > in place.(Only the actives balanced and there was no > > handclapping.) > > > > (When I danced it the caller described the lead > > down, turn as > > a couple back and cast as: lead down 4 steps, half > > turn, gates up. > > We had Shaw Siding: in to line right shoulders, and > > then left.) > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu > > [mailto:owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu] On > > Behalf Of > > allisonthompson-AT-juno.com > > Sent: 14 December 2006 13:20 > > To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu > > Subject: RE: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing > > with dancing? > > Ideas? > > > > > > > > What is the choreography for this dance? > > > > Allison > > > > -- "Mo" wrote: > > And didn't Pat write a second tune for it 'Shaker > > Follow On'? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu > > [mailto:owner-ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu] On > > Behalf Of John > > Ramsay > > Sent: 14 December 2006 02:55 > > To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu > > Subject: Re: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing > > with dancing? > > Ideas? > > > > John Ramsay here in St Louis... > > > > Pat Shaw wa d s delighted with Miss Laufman's > > Simple > > Gifts, made a few adaptations and taught it, > > perhaps > > at Pinewoods. I took it from there to Berea and, > > with > > a few more adaptations or conventions, added it to > > the > > Berea Country Dancers performing repertoire. We > > took > > it around the world. > > > > > > --- Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing > > wrote: > > > > > > Dudley Laufman's daughter (drawing a blank now, > > or > > > I'd grant her her own name - > > > did a contra-ish dance to "Simple Gifts", which I > > > think may appear in > > > "Legacy".) And after that first Bay Area revels, > > > Bob Fraley (who had been one > > > of the Lord of the Dance morris men) lead a dance > > at > > > the Palo Alto English > > > series to "Simple Gifts" that he called "The > > > Christmas Revels"; I assumed it > > > was his own choreography. > > > > > > -- Alan > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > =3D=3D=3D=3D > > =3D=3D=3D > > > Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU > > > Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or > > > SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 > > > Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand > > Hill > > > Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 > > > > > > > > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > =3D=3D=3D=3D > > =3D=3D=3D > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/586 - > > Release Date: > > 13/12/2006 > > 18:13 > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/586 - > > Release Date: > > 13/12/2006 > > 18:13 > > > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:59:31 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <28766341-AT-retriever.VALLEY.NET> Date: 15 Dec 2006 10:59:17 EST From: David.Millstone-AT-valley.net (David Millstone) Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] Re: Simple Gifts To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I wrote Dudley Laufman, whose daughter composed the dance. Here's what he said: Simple Gifts Duple proper All forward and back 8 That again 8 Active cpls down the middle, turn as a cpl and come back to cast off improper 16 Ladies chain 16 Actives turn around to right to balance 8 Around right to place and balance 8 Heidi originally had it as siding rather than frwrd and back. I changed it. Bad boy. David Millstone ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:34:26 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:34:08 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Peterson Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <405722.68922.qm-AT-web39714.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > > I remember doing a very gentle dance to "Simple Gifts" taught by > > Brad Foster at the end of the last evening at Brasstown one year. > > Dudley Laufman's daughter (drawing a blank now, or I'd grant her > her own name - did a contra-ish dance to "Simple Gifts", which I > think may appear in "Legacy".) And after that first Bay Area > revels, Bob Fraley (who had been one of the Lord of the Dance > morris men) lead a dance at the Palo Alto English series to > "Simple Gifts" that he called "The Christmas Revels"; I assumed it > was his own choreography. I don't know who wrote the dance that Brad called, but it was a circle dance. I have it on a tape that Bob Anderson (from Charleston SC) compiled of the week, but the calling isn't clear and I haven't listened to it for a while. Bob recorded the dance parties in the main hall and then went home and edited a tape, which he sold for a $10 contribution to the folk school. The tape also has a couple singing squares from Bob Dalsemar and Steve Hickman playing swing for the jitterbug class that Ira Bernstein was teaching. Andy in Portland __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:46:17 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:46:01 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Peterson Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: RE: [ECD] Phil Merrill recordings? To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <773422.95192.qm-AT-web39711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- John Ramsay wrote: > Or once at the Craftsman's Fair in Asheville NC where > Phil was the regular musician for the performers, he > was unhappy with the dancing at the practice > session=97and a bit inebriated=97and insisted that we > provide our own music by doodling. He had a valid > point=97dancers should know more about making good dance > music. I find that many dancers don't seem to learn the tunes, even those in my performing group where we are using the same recorded music for rehearsing every week. Some of them count all the time and I find that if they are counting out loud it disrupts my listening to cues in the music. Musicians rarely play the music _exactly_ the same every time they repeat a stanza, and on recordings there are cues that tell me what figure of the dance is next. Using those cues, I can start a dance somewhere in the middle, which most of the dancers can't because they haven't listened well enough to the music. Andy in Portland __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 http://mail.yahoo.com=20 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:53:24 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] Fw: [Tradsong] Carol singing with dancing? Ideas? MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Campbell Kaynor Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:53:05 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" --- Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > > I remember doing a very gentle dance to "Simple Gifts" taught by > > Brad Foster at the end of the last evening at Brasstown one year. > > Dudley Laufman's daughter (drawing a blank now, or I'd grant her > her own name - did a contra-ish dance to "Simple Gifts", which I > think may appear in "Legacy".) And after that first Bay Area > revels, Bob Fraley (who had been one of the Lord of the Dance > morris men) lead a dance at the Palo Alto English series to > "Simple Gifts" that he called "The Christmas Revels"; I assumed it > was his own choreography. I don't know who wrote the dance that Brad called, but it was a circle dance. I have it on a tape that Bob Anderson (from Charleston SC) compiled of the week, but the calling isn't clear and I haven't listened to it for a while. Bob recorded the dance parties in the main hall and then went home and edited a tape, which he sold for a $10 contribution to the folk school. The tape also has a couple singing squares from Bob Dalsemar and Steve Hickman playing swing for the jitterbug class that Ira Bernstein was teaching. Andy in Portland I've never done Heidi's dance in a circle. Although I suppose it could be done that way, I think it is more likely the dance that Andy speaks of was different or modified. In particular, I'm nervous about "down the center, wheel, return and cast off." Occasionally I've done such things in a circle but they seem a bit contrived. Cammy ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:18:06 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:17:44 -0800 To: ECD Mailing List From: Beth Zekley Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] grand march for non-dancers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I've been asked to direct a grand march for an upcoming wedding. I've been a "marcher" before but never the one to direct the march. I have sources for the "figures", but I'm wondering about the specifics of leading the march. It seems like the most expedient way would be to have 2 couples that know the figures leading the march. Can anyone offer me advice on directing a Grand March single-handed? (Or I could use both hands...) -- Musically yours, Beth Zekley *** LARK CAMP *** PO Box 1176 Mendocino, California 95460 USA Lark Camp Phone (707) 964-4826 email beth-AT-larkcamp.com Lark Camp Website http://www.larkcamp.com Mickie & Elizabeth Website http://www.celticweddingmusic.net *** MENDOCINO ENGLISH COUNTRY DANCES *** http://www.larkcamp.com/mendoengdance.htm Phone (707) 964-4826 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:53:02 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:28:00 -0800 (PST) From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing Subject: Re: [ECD] grand march for non-dancers To: ECD-AT-SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <01MAVTLV71HE9VVKHI-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii; format=flowed Beth wrote: > I've been asked to direct a grand march for an upcoming wedding. I've > been a "marcher" before but never the one to direct the march. I have > sources for the "figures", but I'm wondering about the specifics of > leading the march. It seems like the most expedient way would be to > have 2 couples that know the figures leading the march. Can anyone > offer me advice on directing a Grand March single-handed? (Or I could > use both hands...) If it's a wedding the customers may want the bride and groom to be the first couple, in which case you're pretty much stuck with being a director rather than a lead-by-example leader. I've basically never done that, though I've seen it done well and poorly. Hints from my marcher experience: The less you can say, the better. Any instructions can be misunderstood. Pointing is good. (I once saw Bob Dalsemer do a really fun Grand March wearing a ref's shirt and using a whistle and hand gestures only.) It can be very helpful to have _one_ confederate if you have figures that involve decisions being made (do I turn left or right? by 2s, by 4s?) at both the top and bottom of the hall. Make sure they know what to do. Multiple confederates with differing opinions is a Bad Thing. (I experienced that in April at the SF Fire Chief's Ball (where I was a vintage-costume extra); they attempted a 1906-style grand march but didn't really have any floor managers who knew what they were doing. The march was, in my opinion, a sad mess, _but_ the various attendees had no idea that there was any real problem. So they walked around for a while until they ran out of music, huh, I guess that's what a Grand March is. I'd suggest drawing the lesson that your Grand March, if it's for people who aren't used to them, will probably be counted a success if there's no blood spilled and no bones broken. You don't really need more than one confederate. (Fezziwig's at Dickens Fair uses a half-dozen people, but you don't actually need six people alternately pointing left and right.) Hints from my leader's experience: I've led dozens of Grand Marches as one of the first couple. If the second couple knows English, you only need one person in the first couple to know what's going on. ("Everybody up for a Grand March! You don't need to know _anything_ - it's just follow the leader!") And that's pretty much all you say in your outside voice. If you're doing an alternate break left-and-right thing, you can tell the couple behind you "we'll go left, you go right" and then point right as you go left. If somebody doesn't get it (so there's two lefts in a row, say) nothing particularly bad happens - there may be a little stutter later. Don't get exercised about it. Many figures are much easier to just do than to direct. (Close march, for example, where you make a tight turn at each wall and go back the other way. Anything where you reverse direction.) To go from 2s to 4s to 8s is pretty easy; you just tell (verbally or nonverbally) the people who are coming at you to take hands in line with you. Everybody else sees it; you never have to tell the whole room anything. It's really important to sort out a signal with the band and have somebody whose job it is to watch you; you may get pretty far away. Your hands are likely to be full, so you can't carry a little pennant and wave it. If you get into an ending configuration you want to be able to go out at the end of the current phrase; don't fuss about it being the end of the tune. Good luck! -- Alan -- =============================================================================== Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 =============================================================================== ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:00:13 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20061218235110.01e481d0-AT-mail.mhtc.net> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:59:47 -0600 To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu From: "M.G. Mudrey, Jr." Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] grand march for non-dancers References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_60724156==.ALT" --=====================_60724156==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed My thoughts. Couple one the dance master and mistress Couple 2 the newly weds couple 3 experience Couple 5 experienced Lead the dancers in, at the head of the hall, the dance master and mistress stop and proceeds to give directions to succeeding coupleswith a hint of what you wish them to don in the back of the hall to come back up...ie experienced grandmarchers will quickly pickup. If you are using over and unders, then couple one must iniate thee desired patterns. Think of how the lines will or will not link to execute the serpentine. Invariably the dancers link at the wrong end of the lines and endup making a partner switch The longest that I have danced was 1/2 hour and did not have a serpentine figure. Also check out Cotillion figures, by Joel H. Watkins. at the Library of Congress website. mm At 12/18/2006 09:17 PM, you wrote: >I've been asked to direct a grand march for an upcoming wedding. I've >been a "marcher" before but never the one to direct the march. I have >sources for the "figures", but I'm wondering about the specifics of >leading the march. It seems like the most expedient way would be to >have 2 couples that know the figures leading the march. Can anyone >offer me advice on directing a Grand March single-handed? (Or I could >use both hands...) >-- > >Musically yours, >Beth Zekley > >*** LARK CAMP *** >PO Box 1176 Mendocino, California 95460 USA >Lark Camp Phone (707) 964-4826 >email beth-AT-larkcamp.com >Lark Camp Website http://www.larkcamp.com >Mickie & Elizabeth Website http://www.celticweddingmusic.net > >*** MENDOCINO ENGLISH COUNTRY DANCES *** >http://www.larkcamp.com/mendoengdance.htm >Phone (707) 964-4826 M.G. Mudrey 106 Ravine Road Mount Horeb, WI 53572 mgmudrey-AT-mhtc.net 608-437-3701 --=====================_60724156==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" My thoughts.

Couple one the dance master and mistress
Couple 2 the newly weds
couple 3 experience

Couple 5 experienced
Lead the dancers in, at the head of the hall, the dance master and mistress stop and proceeds to give directions to succeeding coupleswith a hint of what you wish them to don in the back of the hall to come back up...ie experienced grandmarchers will quickly pickup.

If you are using over and unders, then couple one must iniate thee desired patterns.

Think of how the lines will or will not link to execute the serpentine. Invariably the dancers link at the wrong end of the lines and endup making a partner switch

The longest that I have danced was 1/2 hour and did not have a serpentine figure.

Also check out
Cotillion figures, by Joel H. Watkins.

at the Library of
Congress website.

mm

At 12/18/2006 09:17 PM, you wrote:

I've been asked to direct a grand march for an upcoming wedding. I've
been a "marcher" before but never the one to direct the march. I have
sources for the "figures", but I'm wondering about the specifics of
leading the march. It seems like the most expedient way would be to
have 2 couples that know the figures leading the march. Can anyone
offer me advice on directing a Grand March single-handed? (Or I could
use both hands...)
--

Musically yours,
Beth Zekley

*** LARK CAMP ***
PO Box 1176 Mendocino, California 95460 USA
Lark Camp Phone (707) 964-4826
email beth-AT-larkcamp.com
Lark Camp Website http://www.larkcamp.com
Mickie & Elizabeth Website http://www.celticweddingmusic.net

*** MENDOCINO ENGLISH COUNTRY DANCES ***
http://www.larkcamp.com/mendoengdance.htm
Phone (707) 964-4826

M.G. Mudrey
106 Ravine Road
Mount Horeb, WI 53572

mgmudrey-AT-mhtc.net
608-437-3701

--=====================_60724156==.ALT-- ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:09:43 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:09:27 -0500 From: susan-AT-elegantarts.org Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] grand march for non-dancers Message-ID: <20061219130927.GA23904-AT-lse.org> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20061218235110.01e481d0-AT-mail.mhtc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 11:59:47PM -0600, M.G. Mudrey, Jr. wrote: > Couple one the dance master and mistress > Couple 2 the newly weds > couple 3 experience I have to disagree on one thing here. If you plan to do any figures where you divide into two separate columns, then having an experienced SECOND couple is critical. Maybe more critical than having an experienced first couple. I've learned through painful experience (at a wedding this past summer) that a clueless second couple can completely destroy figures like passage of the (ladies/gents/first half/second half). I was stuck with the bride and groom as the first couple, which was fine since the groom was experienced, but with the groom's parents as the second couple, which was horrific. I directed from outside the march, which usually works well for me, but trying to direct a completely inexperienced second couple was a nightmare; I quickly just gave up on all the passage figures and went with serpentines and spirals. Susan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:24:00 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:23:46 -0500 From: susan-AT-elegantarts.org Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] grand march for non-dancers Message-ID: <20061219132346.GB23904-AT-lse.org> References: <01MAVTLV71HE9VVKHI-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 07:28:00PM -0800, Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > If it's a wedding the customers may want the bride and groom to be the first > couple, in which case you're pretty much stuck with being a director rather > than a lead-by-example leader. I've basically never done that, though I've > seen it done well and poorly. That's how I usually do it, since I don't have a convenient male partner to lead with. I find it much easier to be outside the march so I can see what's going on. > The less you can say, the better. Any instructions can be > misunderstood. Pointing is good. (I once saw Bob Dalsemer do a > really fun Grand March wearing a ref's shirt and using a whistle and > hand gestures only.) I have a whole set of discreet hand signals and shoulder taps. Verbal cues only work if your lead couples know what they mean (passage of the first half!) With inexperienced marchers you will need to be, ah, less discreet. :) > It can be very helpful to have _one_ confederate if you have figures > that involve decisions being made (do I turn left or right? by 2s, > by 4s?) at both the top and bottom of the hall. Make sure they know > what to do. Multiple confederates with differing opinions is a Bad > Thing. One floor manager to point alternately left and right while you proceed down the room with the marchers is a very good thing. Otherwise if you have a very long line, the people at the end may miss the dividing bit and you end up with 1/4 of your people in one line and 3/4 in the other. All it takes is one couple to forget to split and a lot of inexperienced people following the people in front of them.... > (I experienced that in April at the SF Fire Chief's Ball (where I > was a vintage-costume extra); they attempted a 1906-style grand > march but didn't really have any floor managers who knew what they > were doing. I just have to throw in that at our 1905 grand march a couple of years ago, I took an idea from one of my early 20thc manuals and we split by gender and traced out the numbers 0 and 5 on the floor. (Ladies were the 0 and gents were the 5.) The puzzled marchers looked confused, so we looped around and led it again, this time shouting out the numbers. Everyone liked it once they figured out what we were doing. We didn't try it again with 06 because I didn't have Patri to co-lead with me and felt that a line-crossing 6 was more difficult than a 5. Maybe for 07.... > (Fezziwig's at Dickens Fair uses a half-dozen people, but you don't > actually need six people alternately pointing left and right.) The best grand-march-leading team in the country is probably Patri Pugliese and his wife and older daughter - three total. Other notes: if you have an experienced second couple, make sure they do not try to think too much. I've seen a second couple "deduce" what was going to happen next and proceed to go and do it with their half of the line, while the first half was doing what the leaders actually intended. I've actually seen this twice, both times with INCREDIBLY experienced second couples who ought to have known better. The Infinite Bowers Problem - again, if the couple leading doesn't know when to come out into a regular march again you can end up in a permanent loop of bowers. I got stuck in a set of about eight couples doing that at Newport one year. I don't pre-choreograph my grand marches except for our Regency not-a-grand-march, which is a discrete bit of (historical) choreography that is short and easy to remember. Otherwise, I call figures on the fly and am thus ready to shift gears quickly if I've misjudged my marchers' skill level. Susan ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:30:26 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ecd-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:11:07 -0500 Subject: [ECD] 2007 *PLUS* Message-ID: <20061219.221521.1388.10.solweber-AT-juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Sol Weber Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu My annual holiday greeting. If you get more than one (from different lists!), my apologies; just think of it as stereo. Well., 2006 had some positives but a few minuses. However, hope springs eternal, so, happy dancing, and my wish for a Happy Happ y Happ y Happ y Happ y Happ y Hap p y Hap p y Hap p y Hap p y Hap py Ha p py Ha p py Ha p py Ha p py Ha ppy H a ppy H a ppy H a ppy H a ppy H appy H appy H appy H appy H appy Happy H appy H appy H appy H appy H appy H a ppy H a ppy H a ppy H a ppy Ha ppy Ha p py Ha p py Ha p py Ha p py Hap py Hap p y Hap p y Hap p y Hap p y Happ y Happ y Happ y Happ y Happ y Happy New Ne w Ne w Ne w Ne w Ne w Ne w Ne w N e w N e w N e w N e w N e w N e w N ew N ew N ew N ew N ew N ew N ew New N ew N ew N ew N ew N ew N ew N ew N e w N e w N e w N e w N e w N e w Ne w Ne w Ne w Ne w Ne w Ne w Ne w New Year Yea r Yea r Yea r Yea r Yea r Yea r Ye a r Ye a r Ye a r Ye a r Ye a r Ye ar Y e ar Y e ar Y e ar Y e ar Y e ar Y ear Y ear Y ear Y ear Y ear Y ear Year Y ear Y ear Y ear Y ear Y ear Y ear Y e ar Y e ar Y e ar Y e ar Y e ar Ye ar Ye a r Ye a r Ye a r Ye a r Ye a r Yea r Yea r Yea r Yea r Yea r Yea r Year I n I n I n I n I n I n I n I n I n I n I n In I n I n I n I n I n I n I n I n I n I n In 2007 200 7 200 7 200 7 200 7 200 7 20 0 7 20 0 7 20 0 7 2 0 07 2 0 07 2 0 07 2 007 2 007 2 007 2 007 2007 20 07 20 07 20 07 20 07 20 0 7 20 0 7 20 0 7 200 7 200 7 200 7 200 7 2007 ....and as a bonus, the very charming and amusing http://www.eminiz.com/out/merrychristmas.htm Have a happy!! Sol "Roundman" Weber --- "So many rounds, so little time" 25-14 37 St, Astoria NY 11103, 718-278-4389 (after 11am) SINGERS & musicians, contact me for info on books, albums, & misc. fun items. solweber-AT-juno.com; web: http://roundz.tripod.com (DON'T use 'www') ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:23:06 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] Dance Spam: Christmas Dance, Melrose 3rd Saturdays, Morris workshops MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Campbell Kaynor Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:22:42 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Happy St. Lucia Day! Happy Solstice! Happy New Year! And where ever you are I hope that you have a joyous holiday season replete with good company and time to give thought to the less fortunate. Here's hoping for a grand turn towards a peaceful 2007. If you are looking for something really special on the 25th, come to my evening of music and dance in Melrose. Love to all, Cammy My upcoming dance events: Monday, 12/25/06, Annual Christmas Dance -- English and Contras from 7-11PM at the Melrose Unitarian Universalist Church, across from the library, 70 West Emerson St. in Melrose MA, Donations voluntary (suggested $6-8) Cammy Kaynor with family and friends will continue a long tradition of music and dancing, from English to Contra, on Christmas night. We welcome sit-ins in the band and newcomers on the dance floor for this community event. Saturday 1/20/2007 Third Saturday Series of Contradancing in Melrose -- from 7-10PM at the Melrose Unitarian Universalist Church, across from the library, 70 West Emerson St. in Melrose MA (voluntary donations) Cammy, Al MacIntire, Eli Kaynor, Nickolas Kaynor and Peter Butcher will welcome sit-ins in the band and newcomers on the dance floor. January 17, 24, 31, and Feb. 7, 2007 -- Morris Dancing Workshops from 8:30-9:30 in West Newton, MA at the First Unitarian Society of Newton, 1326 Washington St. (suggested donations $5). Once again, Cammy and the Commonwealth Morris Men will host a series of Wednesday workshops in ritual folk dances from England. The theme this year will be dances from the village of Ascott-under-Wychwood in the Bristol style as it is done by the East Suffolk Morris Men in England. Ascott-under-Wychwood is a small village north of Leafield in the Evenlode valley, Northwest of London, UK ( http://www.ascott-under-wychwood.org.uk/about.html). Both newcomers and experienced dancers are welcome at any or all sessions, but the basics will be covered most thoroughly at the beginning of the series. At each session you can expect to learn the following: 1) Basic steps and arm movements 2) The figures of the dances 3) One or more dances FUSN is across from the police station, at the corner of Washington St. and Highland St. Their website is http://www.fusn.org. For more information, contact the Commonwealth Morris Men: http://www.commonwealthmorris.com squire-AT-commonwealthmorris.com 617-718-9623 Wishing a happy holiday season to all, Cammy Kaynor http://home.earthlink.net/~manystrings/ cammydance-AT-earthlink.net 781-665-3835 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 16:31:49 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Nicolas Broadbridge Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] The Assembly Ball Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 00:30:51 +0000 To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU THE ASSEMBLY - Glasgow & Edinburgh: STOP PRESS! Great news! We have booked New Lanark again for The Assembly Ball in 2007; so those of you who in 2006 missed dancing in and exploring Robert Owen's pioneering mill town, "the cradle of socialism", have another chance next summer to experience what many felt was unforgettable. Read "Mr Darcy would have approved" at www.nicolasbroadbridge.com, and have a look at pictures of last summer's Ball. Meanwhile, make a note in your diary that the Ball is on June 30th, with a recital by Aidan Broadbridge (Vln) & Jonathan Cohen (Pno) in the Ball venue the night before, Friday 29th June. This year's Ball programme consists of Playford dances as transcribed by Cecil Sharp in the Country Dance Book, a chance to relive the early days of the revival of Country Dancing. There will also be a meeting on Tuesday, 26th June, of the Glasgow Assembly in Queen's Cross Church (the Charles Rennie Mackintosh church) hall; so if you've never experienced Mackintosh's unique architecture, this is a chance to do so with dancing thrown in! Thursday 28th June will see the usual pre-Ball meeting of the Edinburgh Assembly in Holy Cross Church Hall, Edinburgh. All are welcome at either evening (or both!) Following all this, we are planning to have the usual "jolly" on the Sunday afternoon/evening, with barbecue and a little outdoor dancing (weather permitting) here at Linnmill. You've not lived till you've danced Dutch Crossing in a Scottish farmyard! Be sure and come, and we'll give you a real Scottish welcome :-) Nicolas B., Lanark, Scotland. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:34:15 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:33:54 -0800 To: ECD Mailing List From: Beth Zekley Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] thank you for grand march help CC: leasmithdances-AT-yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I wish to thank everyone who provided suggestions and assistance regarding my questions about a grand march. Our friend's wedding was lovely, with many spontaneous or loosely planned happenings. The couple are both in our English country dance band, and asked my husband, Mickie Zekley, to play bagpipes for the ceremony. Mickie suggested that I lead a grand march to begin the ceremony, they happily accepted. Hence my research. Our friend's wedding was lovely. Before the wedding I discovered that Lea Smith, another wedding guest and local caller had been thinking a lot about how to do a grand march in that small hall with all those non-dancers. I happily handed over leading the march to her, along with all the wonderful suggestions from the list. I was already committed to play music before the ceremony and felt more comfortable with a more experienced marcher directing everyone. (I've been in all of 3 grand marches, all with experienced dancers.) I helped direct traffic. Seeing the room where the ceremony was to be held was empty of chairs (the chairs were leaning on the walls in preparation for the grand march), the guests promptly set up chairs. Right before the ceremony, Lea (completely calm in face of this unexpected wrinkle) had all the wedding guests fold up their chairs, return them to the wall, and leave the room, then had them enter in couples. As expected, when the march of couples around the perimeter reached the door again there were still several guests in the hallway waiting to enter, the march continued spiraling inward, led by Mickie Zekley on bagpipe and Lea Smith dancing master. She changed the line of couples into a serpentine line of guests holding hands, with the wedding party in the middle. The spiral finished with the wedding party in the middle and the guests all around. The ceremony was held in the same position, most everyone dropped hands. After the ceremony Lea unwound the spiral and led the line into the reception room. The guests seemed to enjoy the novelty and ancient feel of the spiral. It was the perfect march to meet the wishes of the couple, working with non-dancers who didn't know they were going to have to march, and a small room. Thank you all again for your support and helpful suggestions. I expect to use them sometime; perhaps it will prompt me to think about changing one of our monthly dances into a dress-up "Ball" with a Grand March. -- Musically yours, Beth Zekley *** LARK CAMP *** PO Box 1176 Mendocino, California 95460 USA Lark Camp Phone (707) 964-4826 email beth-AT-larkcamp.com Lark Camp Website http://www.larkcamp.com Mickie & Elizabeth Website http://www.celticweddingmusic.net *** MENDOCINO ENGLISH COUNTRY DANCES *** http://www.larkcamp.com/mendoengdance.htm Phone (707) 964-4826 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:28:11 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:27:57 -0800 (PST) From: John Ramsay Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] thank you for grand march help To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <13144.69439.qm-AT-web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From John Ramsay in St Louis: Beth's experience with the grand march is similar to one I led 3 years ago. It was to be the climax of the evening when Lewis and Clark were sent off on their journey to the Pacific. I had met with the event leadership in the large and elegant Khorassan Ballroom in St Louis a month before the event. The concierge agreed to set up tables and chairs around the perimeter of the 139 x 107 ft. room to accommodate 400 guests leaving a circle of 80 feet in the center for the grand march. A band was hired from Florida and I supplied it with appropriate music circa 1802 indicating the correct tempo. When B and I arrived, in costume, we found the entire hall had been filled with tables and chairs. Each table had an elegant centerpiece. There was a small area of about 32 feet square covered with parquet floor up by the stage to accommodate the grand march! Even so, the leadership were concerned that the dignitaries would be reluctant to join in the dance and I spent the cocktail time urging the mayor and his wife, the French ambassador and his wife, and assorted friends to set a good example by getting up to dance. The co-chair was to follow B and me with Thomas Jefferson as her partner. I was supplied with a cordless mike. After the meal and Jefferson's speech, I urged people to join in the grand march. B and I, followed by Jefferson and his partner, got up and started around the parquet floor. Others began to join in. Before we made one circuit, the parquet floor was jam-packed with people with no opportunity for any traditional configurations of a grand march. I had to leave the parquet floor and wind among the tables and then, as more couples joined in, head for the perimeter behind all tables. By the time I circumnavigated the entire room, the parquet floor was still jammed and there was nowhere to go. I signaled the band to stop. We must have had 400 people up and ready to dance when we ended. I was dismayed, but the leadership were delighted and pronounced the "grand march" was the high point of the evening. --- Beth Zekley wrote: > I wish to thank everyone who provided suggestions > and assistance > regarding my questions about a grand march. > > Our friend's wedding was lovely, with many > spontaneous or loosely > planned happenings. The couple are both in our > English country dance > band, and asked my husband, Mickie Zekley, to play > bagpipes for the > ceremony. Mickie suggested that I lead a grand march > to begin the > ceremony, they happily accepted. Hence my research. > > Our friend's wedding was lovely. Before the wedding > I discovered that > Lea Smith, another wedding guest and local caller > had been thinking a > lot about how to do a grand march in that small hall > with all those > non-dancers. I happily handed over leading the march > to her, along > with all the wonderful suggestions from the list. I > was already > committed to play music before the ceremony and felt > more comfortable > with a more experienced marcher directing everyone. > (I've been in all > of 3 grand marches, all with experienced dancers.) I > helped direct > traffic. > > Seeing the room where the ceremony was to be held > was empty of chairs > (the chairs were leaning on the walls in preparation > for the grand > march), the guests promptly set up chairs. Right > before the ceremony, > Lea (completely calm in face of this unexpected > wrinkle) had all the > wedding guests fold up their chairs, return them to > the wall, and > leave the room, then had them enter in couples. As > expected, when the > march of couples around the perimeter reached the > door again there > were still several guests in the hallway waiting to > enter, the march > continued spiraling inward, led by Mickie Zekley on > bagpipe and Lea > Smith dancing master. She changed the line of > couples into a > serpentine line of guests holding hands, with the > wedding party in > the middle. The spiral finished with the wedding > party in the middle > and the guests all around. The ceremony was held in > the same > position, most everyone dropped hands. After the > ceremony Lea unwound > the spiral and led the line into the reception room. > The guests > seemed to enjoy the novelty and ancient feel of the > spiral. It was > the perfect march to meet the wishes of the couple, > working with > non-dancers who didn't know they were going to have > to march, and a > small room. > > Thank you all again for your support and helpful > suggestions. I > expect to use them sometime; perhaps it will prompt > me to think about > changing one of our monthly dances into a dress-up > "Ball" with a > Grand March. > -- > > Musically yours, > Beth Zekley > > *** LARK CAMP *** > PO Box 1176 Mendocino, California 95460 USA > Lark Camp Phone (707) 964-4826 > email beth-AT-larkcamp.com > Lark Camp Website http://www.larkcamp.com > Mickie & Elizabeth Website > http://www.celticweddingmusic.net > > *** MENDOCINO ENGLISH COUNTRY DANCES *** > http://www.larkcamp.com/mendoengdance.htm > Phone (707) 964-4826 > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:39:09 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20061226193633.042f4c58-AT-pop.sonic.net> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:38:45 -0800 To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu From: Sharon Green Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] Some ECD-related content (Chuck Ward Fund) References: <4572B7E6.6040203-AT-earthlydelights.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear Friends, Last Saturday, December 23rd, we had an extra special English dance here in Berkeley. It was our holiday party, with Chuck Ward, Shira Kammen, and Jim Oakden playing, and Lise Dyckman calling, so it was bound to be a special evening. What made it extra special was a surprise gift made by a local dancer, Bill Warburton, who pledged to match up to $2,000 in donations to CDSS's Chuck Ward Fund, a new outreach program created in honor of California's brilliant dance musician. For those of you who have not yet heard about the Chuck Ward Fund, it is an outreach fund aimed at supporting training programs for country dance musicians. Funds are to be used to underwrite the costs of having experienced country dance band leaders offer workshops or other training programs for novice or journeyman musicians in need of training in playing for dancing. Depending on the needs and resources of the community applying for funding, support can take the form of loans or grants. The initial impetus to create the fund came from the greater Bay Area country dance community, in particular from Jon Berger and Kalia Kliban of NBCDS, and from Jens Dill and the BACDS Board, but as news of the fund has spread, contributions have come in from both coasts as well as from across the Pond. Why has there been such an enthusiastic response? Well, for nearly half a century Chuck Ward has enlivened our dance world with his splendid playing and playfulness. Through his classic ECD recordings with the Claremont Country Dance Band and his work as co-founder of the San Francisco Country Dance Society (the predecessor of BACDS), he has touched lives both here in the Bay Area and around the world. It has been a joy to me to see how much love there is for Chuck in the dance community, and to play a part in this grass-roots fund-raising campaign. You can play a part in this campaign, too. Tell folks about the Chuck Ward Fund, and about how important it is that our musicians get the training they need and deserve. Think about ways your community can encourage live music and nurture both novice and journeyman musicians. Ask your musicians what sort of activities they'd like--slow jams, open band nights, workshops--and help make them happen. And, of course, contribute to the Chuck Ward Fund. You can contribute to the Chuck Ward Fund by writing a check to CDSS and specifying that your donation is for the Chuck Ward Fund. Send your donation to the Country Dance and Song Society, 132 Main Street, P.O. Box 338, Haydenville MA 01039-0338. And while you're writing to CDSS, consider ordering a copy of Chuck's new CD, The Vital Organ, English country dances of the 17th & 18th Centuries. As Marshall Barron comments, "Charles Ward, who has played the organ since he was 13, and is a master dance musician, has combined his two great skills in the CD. His choice of organ stops, his delicacy of phrasing, his intricate weavings of the melodic lines, his inspired improvisations, and his varied harmonies illuminate the character of each tune, from lyrical sweetness to triumphant energy." It's a hoot! Much love, Sharon ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:14:28 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu To: solweber-AT-juno.com Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 02:13:08 -0500 Subject: email resolutions Message-ID: <20061228.021314.1152.7.solweber-AT-juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Sol Weber Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Some email resolutions for the new year.... 1. Thou shalt include a clear and specific subject line. 2. Thou shalt edit any quoted text down to the minimum thou needest. 3. Thou shalt read thine own message thrice before thou sendest it. 4. Thou shalt ponder how thy recipient might react to thy message. 5. Thou shalt check thy spelling and thy grammar. 6. Thou shalt not curse, flame, spam or USE ALL CAPS. 7. Thou shalt not forward any chain letter. 8. Thou shalt not use e-mail for any illegal or unethical purpose. 9. Thou shalt not rely on the privacy of e-mail, especially from work. 10. When in doubt, save thy message overnight and reread it in the light of the dawn. The Golden Rule of E-Mail: Send unto others as thou wouldst send unto one's self. Sol "Roundman" Weber --- "So many rounds, so little time" 25-14 37 St, Astoria NY 11103, 718-278-4389 (after 11am) SINGERS & musicians, contact me for info on books, albums, & misc. fun items. solweber-AT-juno.com; web: http://roundz.tripod.com (DON'T use 'www') ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 06:18:52 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 06:18:39 -0800 (PST) From: Mike White Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [ECD] thank you for grand march help To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <397144.52265.qm-AT-web31114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> These discussions of grand marches leads me to mention my experiences leading a grand march for a Civil War reenactment event that has been held in a unique building in Georgetown Ohio for the last 12 years. What makes the building unique is that it has 4 corner halls each extending from a central area with a bandstand. In essence, the building is cross shaped. Here's a visual idea of what the hall looks like. Bandstand in the center. -------------- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _________________ ___________________ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _________________ ___________________ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ______________ Each corner hall has room for perhaps 15-20 couples. The difficulty is coming up with a series of figures that are easy enough to follow and do not involve a break in the promenade of couples. In most years, I have been able to do some of the traditional figures in one of the corner halls, but most years the march has simply been a promenade through each halls and then going into a single circle serpentine. Any other clever ideas? Leading the rest of the dances for the rest of the evening is always a challenge as well, with groups of dancers participating in each corner of the building. If only I had eyes in all four sides of my head! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:53:09 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:49:51 -0800 To: ECD Mailing List From: Beth Zekley Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] MENDOCINO ENGLISH COUNTRY DANCE Saturday, January 6th Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" MENDOCINO (California) ENGLISH COUNTRY DANCE Saturday, January 6th, 2007 at 8:00 pm Newcomer instruction at 7:30 pm at the Caspar Community Center $9 Admission Very lively music by "Take A Dance" English country dance orchestra, the house band for the Mendocino English Country Dances. http://www.larkcamp.com/takeadance.html Calling & instruction by special dance leader Elizabeth Zekley http://www.larkcamp.com/callers/beth.html English Country Dance is fun, relatively easy, community-oriented dancing with live music. All dances are taught. No partner is required. Beginners are encouraged to participate. No special dress is required. Please bring potluck snacks and beverages to share during the break. Held at the Caspar Community Center in downtown Caspar (between Mendocino & Fort Bragg, California) Map to the Caspar Community Center http://www.casparcommons.org/CCC/WheresCaspar.htm A downloadable poster in pdf format is available here: http://www.larkcamp.com/ecdposter.pdf For further information check http://www.larkcamp.com/ecd or you can call or email (707) 964-4826 ecd-AT-larkcamp.com -- Musically yours, Beth Zekley *** LARK CAMP *** PO Box 1176 Mendocino, California 95460 USA Lark Camp Phone (707) 964-4826 email beth-AT-larkcamp.com Lark Camp Website http://www.larkcamp.com Mickie & Elizabeth Website http://www.celticweddingmusic.net *** MENDOCINO ENGLISH COUNTRY DANCES *** http://www.larkcamp.com/mendoengdance.htm Phone (707) 964-4826 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:48:09 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <20061231014753.3791.qmail-AT-web39704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:47:52 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Peterson Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] US Scandinavian Dance Musicians Get Grammy Nomination To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andrea Hoag moved from Seattle to Washington DC several years ago. She used to play in the rather large Seattle Spelmanslag Scandinavian band. I've seen them at Midsummer festivals with about 25 fiddles. From the Seattle Contra list: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ECD] [seattlecontra] FW: Our Grammy-nominated CD on All Things Considered! To: HI all, Great news about this wonderful women, Seattle native, and friend to many! -----Original Message----- From: Andrea Hoag [mailto:andrea-AT-andreahoag.net] Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 7:58 PM Subject: [ECD] Our Grammy-nominated CD on All Things Considered! Dear Friends, This is an exciting month for Loretta Kelley, Charlie Pilzer, and me. Our CD of Swedish and Norwegian music, Hambo in the Snow, received a Grammy nomination in the Best Traditional World Music Album category. The awards will be given on Feb. 11, and yes, we're going to L.A. for the ceremony! On New Year's Day, our music will be featured on All Things Considered. The piece is 13 minutes long and will air approximately 35 minutes into the program (depending on how much news there is that day). It will also be archived at www.npr.org. Wishing you all the best for 2007, Andrea www.hoagkelleypilzer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:13:57 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <20061231201206.42396.qmail-AT-web32614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:12:06 -0500 (EST) From: Toronto English Dance Reply-To: ECD-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: [ECD] reminder: New Year's Dance in Toronto, Ontario, tonight! To: ECD-AT-ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NEW YEAR'S EVE DANCE PARTY Come and dance the old year away! Our fifth annual NYE dance on December 31, 2006 will feature a lively combination of English Country Dancing, contra dancing and couples dancing. Callers: Cathy Campbell, Karen Millyard and Vivian Stephens Musicians: Stephen Fuller on fiddle, Cathy Campbell on clarinet, Saskia Thompkins on fiddle and viola, Steafan Hannigan on uileann pipes, bouzouki and bodhran, Vicki Obedkoff on keyboard, and Joe Pitre on guitar. Date: December 31st, 2006 Time: 8 p.m. - 1 a.m. Location: Christ the Saviour Russian Orthodox Cathedral, 823 Manning Ave. at Follis (halfway between Bathurst and Christie, halfway between Bloor and Dupont). There is street parking, but there is also parking up at the supermarket at Manning and Dupont (about three blocks north of the hall). Cost: $15/$10 students, with special rates for families; plus, children under 12 dance for free! Please bring some goodies for the finger-food buffet; the punch is on us! We hope to see you there! IMPORTANT UPDATES --New Year's Eve Dance: Mixed English, contra and couples dancing, live music, nibbles buffet and punch! All for $15/10/family rates plus a snack. Come out and dance the old year away under a shower of stars... --Dance lessons: The next round of English Country Dance and waltz classes begins in January. Pre-registration required; please enquire for locations and other details. --Music sessions: Every second and fourth Thursday, near Main subway stn., 7-10. For details write music-AT-torontoenglishdance.ca Toronto English Country Dancers http://www.torontoenglishdance.ca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com