Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary="Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ)" --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT02PN5S5WEOMMH7-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 07:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB200001T2TVF-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 07:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB200M4UT2TZW-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 07:16:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 10:15:51 -0500 (EST) From: JBGrun-AT-aol.com Subject: Car Talk Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <1d8.4084810.2b9228a7-AT-aol.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Did anyone else catch "Betsy from Oak Bluffs" talking to the car guys on NPR this morning? When asked what she found to do on the Vineyard in the winter she mentioned she was on a sword team. As you can imagine, the brothers got quite a bit of mileage out of that (good-naturedly, of course.) Betsy, are you out there? Judy Grunberg --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT03DWX9V0EOMMH7-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 07:35:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB200101TZFFA-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 07:35:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB200M6LTZFZW-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 07:35:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 10:35:23 -0500 (EST) From: Dfhart24-AT-aol.com Subject: Re: Car Talk Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <3f.18f3cf9b.2b922d3b-AT-aol.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_P1xpobOtGHAhCMIwsKmqjg)" X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU --Boundary_(ID_P1xpobOtGHAhCMIwsKmqjg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT In a message dated 3/1/2003 10:17:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, JBGrun-AT-aol.com writes: > Did anyone else catch "Betsy from Oak Bluffs" talking to the car guys on NPR > > this morning? When asked what she found to do on the Vineyard in the winter > > she mentioned she was on a sword team. As you can imagine, the brothers got > > quite a bit of mileage out of that (good-naturedly, of course.) Betsy, are > you out there? > > Judy Grunberg > The Vineyard (That's the island of Martha's Vineyard, off the southern coast of Massachusetts, USA) sword team is called "Swordfish." I expect I will see Betsy, whose last name escapes me, this summer while I'm there. She's often at many of the Vineyard dances and other gatherings where we play music and dance. Cheer, Deborah --Boundary_(ID_P1xpobOtGHAhCMIwsKmqjg) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT In a message dated 3/1/2003 10:17:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, JBGrun-AT-aol.com writes:

Did anyone else catch "Betsy from Oak Bluffs" talking to the car guys on NPR
this morning? When asked what she found to do on the Vineyard in the winter
she mentioned she was on a sword team. As you can imagine, the brothers got
quite a bit of mileage out of that (good-naturedly, of course.) Betsy, are
you out there?

Judy Grunberg


The Vineyard (That's the island of Martha's Vineyard, off the southern coast of Massachusetts, USA) sword team is called "Swordfish."  I expect I will see Betsy, whose last name escapes me, this summer while I'm there.  She's often at many of the Vineyard dances and other gatherings where we play music and dance.

Cheer,
Deborah --Boundary_(ID_P1xpobOtGHAhCMIwsKmqjg)-- --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT06YGBNOCEOSZ2T-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 09:17:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB200501YPJOF-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 09:17:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB2002FNYPJ4C-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 09:17:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:15:13 -0500 From: Carl Friedman Subject: Re: Car Talk Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <5D2E6FFC-4C09-11D7-A734-000393C225F4-AT-alumni.williams.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_GkUtaNjTaoq7bJI48Sl0Bw)" X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU --Boundary_(ID_GkUtaNjTaoq7bJI48Sl0Bw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT On Saturday, March 1, 2003, at 10:35 AM, Dfhart24-AT-aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/1/2003 10:17:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, > JBGrun-AT-aol.com writes: > > Did anyone else catch "Betsy from Oak Bluffs" talking to the car guys > on NPR > this morning? When asked what she found to do on the Vineyard in the > winter > she mentioned she was on a sword team. As you can imagine, the > brothers got > quite a bit of mileage out of that (good-naturedly, of course.) Betsy, > are > you out there? > > Judy Grunberg > > > > The Vineyard (That's the island of Martha's Vineyard, off the southern > coast of Massachusetts, USA) sword team is called "Swordfish."  I > expect I will see Betsy, whose last name escapes me, this summer while > I'm there.  She's often at many of the Vineyard dances and other > gatherings where we play music and dance. > > Cheer, > Deborah I saw the Vineyard Swordfish at the Half Moon Sword Ale in NYC two weekends ago. They are an excellent traditional-style longsword team. While I know several members of the team, I don't recall a Betsy, but the CDSS membership list has a Betsy Smith in Oak Bluffs, Mass. Carl --Boundary_(ID_GkUtaNjTaoq7bJI48Sl0Bw) Content-type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT On Saturday, March 1, 2003, at 10:35 AM, Dfhart24-AT-aol.com wrote: ArialIn a message dated 3/1/2003 10:17:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, JBGrun-AT-aol.com writes: Did anyone else catch "Betsy from Oak Bluffs" talking to the car guys on NPR this morning? When asked what she found to do on the Vineyard in the winter she mentioned she was on a sword team. As you can imagine, the brothers got quite a bit of mileage out of that (good-naturedly, of course.) Betsy, are you out there? Judy Grunberg The Vineyard (That's the island of Martha's Vineyard, off the southern coast of Massachusetts, USA) sword team is called "Swordfish."  I expect I will see Betsy, whose last name escapes me, this summer while I'm there.  She's often at many of the Vineyard dances and other gatherings where we play music and dance. Cheer, Deborah I saw the Vineyard Swordfish at the Half Moon Sword Ale in NYC two weekends ago. They are an excellent traditional-style longsword team. While I know several members of the team, I don't recall a Betsy, but the CDSS membership list has a Betsy Smith in Oak Bluffs, Mass. Carl --Boundary_(ID_GkUtaNjTaoq7bJI48Sl0Bw)-- --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT0IZNK0NKEOPTSB-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 15:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB300M01ENTX7-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 15:02:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB300HHPENT70-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 15:02:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 18:00:53 -0500 From: "Linda M. Nelson" Subject: Re: Car Talk Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1d8.4084810.2b9228a7-AT-aol.com> X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU >Did anyone else catch "Betsy from Oak Bluffs" talking to the car guys on NPR >this morning? When asked what she found to do on the Vineyard in the winter >she mentioned she was on a sword team. As you can imagine, the brothers got >quite a bit of mileage out of that (good-naturedly, of course.) As a faithful (ie addicted) Car Talk fan, I heard Betsy this morning. In spite of the teasing (her sense of humor is at least as wacky as the car guys), she gave a good explanation of traditional English sword dancing. The Vineyard Swordfish are an excellent team, headed by Jan Elliott of Woods Hole. Yay for Betsy and the Vineyard Swordfish! Her call to the car advice program related to her Echo... that got my attention, as i purchased one as a dance gypsy car at about the same time as she bought hers. Hey, 48 miles per gallon is a tremendous advantage when one regularly insists on dancing more than 50 miles from home! It's a great little car, but mine was totalled within months of purchase when an out-of-control station wagon hit it at high speed on the highway as I returned from an out-of-town Ball... woohoo, what a ride... that featherweight little car was swatted like a badminton shuttlecock right across 5 lanes of traffic. I now drive a slightly heavier, older car and view my fellow drivers with cautious suspicion. But... back to relevant content... have any of you found the perfect dance gypsy car? Fuel efficient, reliable (gotta get there and back again), safe, enough space for Ball attire, shoes, swords, sticks, hanks, costumes, etc? Cheers - Linda --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT0KYJKBRSEOPTSB-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 15:58:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB300201H9SJL-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 15:58:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB300M7XH9RNE-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 15:58:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 23:58:18 +0000 From: Alan Corkett Subject: Re: Car Talk Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <000601c2e04e$6fb1f640$8e4686d9-AT-default> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Linda wrote...Hey, 48 miles per gallon is a tremendous advantage when one regularly insists on dancing more than 50 miles from home! >48mpg...is this American gallons! I reckon on 55mpg in the UK, with UK gallons! Alan --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT0M0RCCB4EOPTSB-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:28:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB300301INTTA-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:28:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB30016MINTO5-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:28:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 18:28:39 -0600 From: Paul Stamler Subject: Re: Car Talk Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <002501c2e052$ac678240$c86d550c-AT-paulstam> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1d8.4084810.2b9228a7-AT-aol.com> X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU <> Pontiac Grand Am or its Chevy sister car (don't remember the name). Reasonably fuel efficient, fairly reliable as American cars go, very comfortable driving long distances. But the two biggies: availability of parts almost anywhere (which is my main reason for sticking with American cars) and a HUGE trunk -- more useful space than my late, beloved Oldsmobile. Peace, Paul --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT0MUL9WCKEOPTSB-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB300401JRWK1-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:52:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB300LI3JRWYE-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:52:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:52:35 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Peterson Subject: Re: Car Talk Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <20030302005235.34752.qmail-AT-web20004.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU --- Alan Corkett wrote: > Linda wrote...Hey, 48 miles per gallon is a tremendous advantage > when one regularly insists on dancing more than 50 miles from home! > > >48mpg...is this American gallons! I reckon on 55mpg in the UK, > with UK gallons! Alan Last I checked, Cape Cod had not seceded, although I seem to remember talk at some point of them wanting to become seperate state from the rest of Massachusetts. Andy in Portland OR __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT0N12EJZ4EOPTSB-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:57:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB300401K0MPW-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:57:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB300LIXK0LYE-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:57:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 19:57:34 -0500 (EST) From: Dfhart24-AT-aol.com Subject: Re: Car Talk Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <150.1c7039d7.2b92b0fe-AT-aol.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_H4H98lypCGZYOTlBGzFdCw)" X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU --Boundary_(ID_H4H98lypCGZYOTlBGzFdCw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT In a message dated 3/1/2003 7:29:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, pstamler-AT-pobox.com writes: > < dance gypsy car? Fuel efficient, reliable (gotta get there and back > again), safe, enough space for Ball attire, shoes, swords, sticks, > hanks, costumes, etc?>> > I still have two road-worthy Honda's -- an '82 Civic wagon (no longer made) and an '83 Accord, both of which still get in the vicinity of 35 mpg. We've recently retired one Toyota Camry wagon which got 300,000 miles and have run another to about that limit. It's about to be put out to pasture. We're on our third Camry wagon, '94, which now has about 120,000 miles, though the mpg is *only* in the mid to late 20s. My 16-year old daughter is terribly embarassed that her friends have "better" cars than I do. (That used to cut down on her asking me to drive her places where someone might see her.) Now that she is driving the 35 miles or so to and from school and *paying for her own gas*, she is driving the Honda Accord. :+) Cheer, Deborah --Boundary_(ID_H4H98lypCGZYOTlBGzFdCw) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT In a message dated 3/1/2003 7:29:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, pstamler-AT-pobox.com writes:

<<But... back to relevant content... have any of you found the perfect
dance gypsy car?  Fuel efficient, reliable (gotta get there and back
again), safe, enough space for Ball attire, shoes, swords, sticks,
hanks, costumes, etc?>>


I still have two road-worthy Honda's -- an  '82 Civic wagon (no longer made) and an '83 Accord, both of which still get in the vicinity of 35 mpg.  We've recently retired one Toyota Camry wagon which got 300,000 miles and have run another to about that limit. It's about to be put out to pasture.  We're on our third Camry wagon, '94, which now has about 120,000 miles, though the mpg is *only* in the mid to late 20s.

My 16-year old daughter is terribly embarassed that her friends have "better" cars than I do.  (That used to cut down on her asking me to drive her places where someone might see her.)    Now that she is driving the 35 miles or so to and from school and *paying for her own gas*, she is driving the Honda Accord.  :+)

Cheer,
Deborah --Boundary_(ID_H4H98lypCGZYOTlBGzFdCw)-- --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT1I5TWQ34EOO1D7-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 07:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB400C01P9QF2-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 07:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB400A6FP9QJ4-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 07:49:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 10:48:45 -0500 (EST) From: DavBarnert-AT-aol.com Subject: Re: Duct tape Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <19c.115d2754.2b9381dd-AT-aol.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU FWIW there's already some dance relevance here. A teenage member of out Morris team made a duct tape dress a year or two ago for her prom. ______ /\/\/\/\ <______> | | | | | David Barnert <______> | | | | | <______> | | | | | Albany, N.Y. <______> \/\/\/\/ Ventilator Concertina Bellows Bellows (Vocation) (Avocation) --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT1T3K80VQEON68A-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 13:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB5003013SAPC-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 13:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB5001B63S9I1-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 13:02:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 14:56:53 -0500 From: Gary Roodman Subject: New Book, A Finite Set of Calculated Figures Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20030302121823.01e96130-AT-mail.earthlink.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_F1FtYnreNxdlzkgt0Tv+tQ)" X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU --Boundary_(ID_F1FtYnreNxdlzkgt0Tv+tQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello Dancers, For those might be interested, I want to let you know that I have a new book of dances, A Finite Set of Calculated Figures. It includes "Turning By Threes" (music by Paul Machlis), "Horseplay" (music by T. Arbeau), and "Mary K" (music by Dave Wiesler), all of which I think someone is dancing somewhere. You may get more information about the book from my web site, http://home.earthlink.net/~groodman/index.htm, or from CDSS, http://www.cdss.org/sales/index.html, or, of course, by contacting me. I hope that some of you will feel a real NEED to have this book. Best regards, Gary ------------------------------------------------- NEW! 26 Grove Avenue Leeds, MA 01053 413-586-2888 There is a new book: A Finite Set of Calculated Figures (Volume 6) VISIT THE CALCULATED FIGURES WEB SITE: http://home.earthlink.net/~groodman/index.htm --Boundary_(ID_F1FtYnreNxdlzkgt0Tv+tQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello Dancers,

        For those might be interested, I want to let you know that I have a new book of dances, A Finite Set of Calculated Figures.  It includes "Turning By Threes" (music by Paul Machlis), "Horseplay" (music by T. Arbeau), and "Mary K" (music by Dave Wiesler), all of which I think someone is dancing somewhere.  You may get more information about the book from my web site,

http://home.earthlink.net/~groodman/index.htm, or

from CDSS, http://www.cdss.org/sales/index.html, or, of course,

by contacting me.

        I hope that some of you will feel a real NEED to have this book.

Best regards,

Gary
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NEW!     26 Grove Avenue                     Leeds, MA 01053                              413-586-2888

              There is a new book:  A Finite Set of Calculated Figures  (Volume 6)
VISIT THE CALCULATED FIGURES WEB SITE:  http://home.earthlink.net/~groodman/index.htm --Boundary_(ID_F1FtYnreNxdlzkgt0Tv+tQ)-- --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT1YXS1DXMEOINRJ-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 15:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB500B01BIUJ6-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 15:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB500A2IBITFX-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 15:49:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 15:49:26 -0800 From: Mary Devlin Subject: Ann Arbor dance in the news Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Check this out! While not strictly about English country dancing (actually, it's about the Ann Arbor contra dance) many of our ECD friends are mentioned. Very nice article. Enjoy. http://www.mlive.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1046603648208520.xml?aane ws Mary --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT2DU2DPVAEORS29-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB500801VABIW-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB5005ARVABXZ-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:56:35 -0800 (PST) Resent-date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:56:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 19:38:43 -0800 (PST) Resent-from: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing From: sol weber Subject: carDUCTtalk Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Resent-to: ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: system-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Resent-message-id: <01KT2DTQ3ZQUEOOVTZ-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> Message-id: <01KT2DTQ3ZQUEOOVTZ-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU From: sol weber To: system-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Just closing the circle. Re this week's Car Talk postings, and last week's duct tape entries, I must mention the Car Talk musical cd that includes car related songs that have been featured on their show. Included is the delightful little Duct Tape Madrigal, my favorite selection. You can get info on the cd at the Car Talk web site. Sol "Roundman" Weber --- "So many rounds, so little time" 25-14 37 St, Astoria NY 11103, 718-278-4389 (after 11am) SINGERS & musicians, contact me for info on books, albums, & misc. fun items. solweber-AT-juno.com; http://roundz.tripod.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (MX V4.2 AXP) with SMTP; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 19:39:06 PST Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB500M01M4DEC-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for system-AT-SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 19:38:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from m07.lax.untd.com (m07.lax.untd.com [64.136.30.70]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB500L4CM4DVH-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for system-AT-SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 19:38:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"HkUFbn0ji/QuhAWkT5t1zqhRlONOb/sUeIqGSlGpmJtGsvkKL9gnsA=="> Received: (from solweber-AT-juno.com) by m07.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id HSBNDVCX; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 19:38:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:33:13 -0500 Subject: carDUCTtalk Message-ID: <20030302.223338.-914433.1.solweber-AT-juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT2T4XZGIWEOSE44-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:14:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB600701FK4GO-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:14:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB6001KNFK3BK-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:14:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:14:16 -0500 From: Campbell Kaynor Subject: Re: carDUCTtalk Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Years ago, some friends of mine and I made a musical recording of various "fowl" sounds that we called our "Duck Tape." We used to drive around in my Sob (swedish car) with this thing blaring and making wise quacks about the Eggsample we were setting. Cammy --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT2TCYI2V0EOSE44-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB600701FUWVZ-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB60071VFUVIU-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:20:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:20:18 -0500 (EST) From: Dfhart24-AT-aol.com Subject: Re: carDUCTtalk Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <1d8.4346069.2b94bea2-AT-aol.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_GghyqOMGvT4FWmic6bSabw)" X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU --Boundary_(ID_GghyqOMGvT4FWmic6bSabw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT In a message dated 3/3/2003 9:15:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, Campbell_Kaynor-AT-biogen.com writes: > Years ago, some friends of mine and I made a musical recording of various > "fowl" sounds that we called our "Duck Tape." We used to drive around in my > Sob (swedish car) with this thing blaring and making wise quacks about the > Eggsample we were setting. > Cammy > You *Reely* Crack me up, Cammie, Cheer, Deborah --Boundary_(ID_GghyqOMGvT4FWmic6bSabw) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT In a message dated 3/3/2003 9:15:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, Campbell_Kaynor-AT-biogen.com writes:

Years ago, some friends of mine and I made a musical recording of various
"fowl" sounds that we called our "Duck Tape." We used to drive around in my
Sob (swedish car) with this thing blaring and making wise quacks about the
Eggsample we were setting.
Cammy


You *Reely* Crack me up, Cammie,

Cheer,
Deborah --Boundary_(ID_GghyqOMGvT4FWmic6bSabw)-- --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT2TUHIMJCEOSE44-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB600901GIG2K-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB6001OLGIFBK-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:35:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:34:51 -0500 (EST) From: Englshdnc-AT-cs.com Subject: Re: carDUCTtalk Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Cc: bhuppert-AT-juno.com Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_yuwmGmDInI6g2Wr91oy2BQ)" X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU --Boundary_(ID_yuwmGmDInI6g2Wr91oy2BQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi: Thanks for the opportunity to gain some strenght & sleep to continue our journey. The Scottish brunch and dance were very nice and well done. The cajun was terrific at Hungarian Hse in NYC. Maybe next time will afford greater relaxation opportunities. Al --Boundary_(ID_yuwmGmDInI6g2Wr91oy2BQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi:
Thanks for the opportunity to gain some strenght & sleep to continue our journey.  The Scottish brunch and dance were very nice and well done.  The cajun was terrific at Hungarian Hse in NYC.  Maybe next time will afford greater relaxation opportunities.
Al --Boundary_(ID_yuwmGmDInI6g2Wr91oy2BQ)-- --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT2Z02ABM2EOTRL9-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB600L01NBWC5-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB600K2JNBVO8-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:02:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:02:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Jen Wood Subject: nymphs and hunks Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Having come back from IVFDF last night (and thoroughly enjoyed the weekend), I was wondering this morning about something - I think it's on topic for this list, although it's about english ceilidh dancing in britain, not 'proper' ECD in America - although I don't think there are many IVFDF-goers here to help me... Anyway, two years ago at IVFDF in Cambridge, there was a workshop called 'nymphs and hunks', about dance style. The description was: Nymphs and Hunks: Hugh Stewart Many years ago when Hugh was a young and handsome hunk he would go to IVFDF and dance with all those gorgeous nymphs. He was irritated to find that half of them couldn't dance properly, but their gorgeous charms compensated for that and he had a good time. As he grows old and crotchety he finds the waning charms compensate less and less. IVFDF should have a workshop on dance style in general, not dances in particular he said. Right, we said... I didn't go to the workshop at the time, partly because I wanted to go to something else, and partly because I was still not very confident about my dancing at the time, and didn't *want* picked to pieces. And reading the description now, I feel that defining 'dancing properly' is difficult or dangerous at the best of times, and even worse at somewhere like IVFDF where you have at least one major style clash (english/scottish, and maybe country/morris - i know less about that one), and various minor ones. Anyway, after all that rambling, the question (for anyone who's been to IVFDF) is: What *is* so bad about the dancing, that a workshop on style was needed? It didn't seem so bad to me this weekend - just confusing (as always) because I'm never sure which style to expect from the next person I meet. Is it a general problem with dancing, or a specific one with IVFDF? And, if anyone can remember that far back, what did the workshop teach? Jen --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT2ZRZ1FM2EOTRL9-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB600001ODDS2-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB600KEEODDB1-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:24:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:24:23 +0000 From: Hugh Stewart Subject: Re: nymphs and hunks Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <3E638FC7.D84D7EC4-AT-ugs.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Jen Wood wrote: > Having come back from IVFDF last night (and thoroughly enjoyed the > weekend), I was wondering this morning about something - I think it's > on topic for this list, although it's about english ceilidh dancing in > britain, not 'proper' ECD in America - although I don't think there are > many IVFDF-goers here to help me... > > Anyway, two years ago at IVFDF in Cambridge, there was a workshop called > 'nymphs and hunks', about dance style. The description was: > > Nymphs and Hunks: Hugh Stewart > Many years ago when Hugh was a young and handsome hunk he would go to > IVFDF and dance with all those gorgeous nymphs. He was irritated to find > that half of them couldn't dance properly, but their gorgeous charms > compensated for that and he had a good time. As he grows old and crotchety > he finds the waning charms compensate less and less. IVFDF should have a > workshop on dance style in general, not dances in particular he > said. Right, we said... > > I didn't go to the workshop at the time, partly because I wanted to go to > something else, and partly because I was still not very confident about my > dancing at the time, and didn't *want* picked to pieces. > And reading the description now, I feel that defining 'dancing properly' > is difficult or dangerous at the best of times, and even worse at > somewhere like IVFDF where you have at least one major style clash > (english/scottish, and maybe country/morris - i know less about that one), > and various minor ones. > > Anyway, after all that rambling, the question (for anyone who's been to > IVFDF) is: What *is* so bad about the dancing, that a workshop on style > was needed? It didn't seem so bad to me this weekend - just confusing (as > always) because I'm never sure which style to expect from the next person > I meet. Is it a general problem with dancing, or a specific one with > IVFDF? And, if anyone can remember that far back, what did the workshop > teach? > > Jen Oh dear, I suppose that's my cue... My main complaint was people who can't swing, but I remember feeling crochety about people who go in to the middle and back two beats out of phase with the music. I think maybe I was being crochety and things are getting better than I remember them. I think we can distinguish good and bad dancing from issues of style -- I don't mind what hold someone wants in a swing, but I do want their feet to move in time with the music (well, to be precise I want their feet to move in time with mine, we'll argue about the quality of my dancing later) I can't remember exactly what I did at said workshop (and to some extent the fact that a festival put something in the programme to say "we care about the quality of your dancing" was the important bit) but basically I went through dances that involved swings, polkas, step-hops or whatever with a preliminary "you can do a step-hop dance to a saunter, step hop or 1,2,3-hop" explanation as appropriate. I certainly didn't intend to pick anyone to pieces, and am fairly sure I wouldn't have picked on anyone in particular -- as you felt at the time it could have been unkind. Hugh Stewart --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT304FMSI4EOTRL9-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB600101OSUUX-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB600KCDOSTYH-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:34:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:33:34 -0500 From: Deb Karl Subject: Re: IVFDF?? was: nymphs and hunks Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <3E6391EE.1A427BB0-AT-wi.mit.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU um, excuse my ignorance, but would someone please translate "IVFDF", & tell us a little about it? I guess that "FDF" is "Folk Dance Festival", but can't figure out the rest of it. What all is on the weekend's programme? thanks, Deb, who doesn't fall into either category Jen Wood wrote: > > Having come back from IVFDF last night (and thoroughly enjoyed the > weekend), e --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT30WHJP86EOTRL9-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:56:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB600501PUI1N-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:56:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB6001DFPUHEG-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:56:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:56:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael Barraclough Subject: Re: IVFDF?? was: nymphs and hunks Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <200303031756.RAA17612-AT-galahad.tgis.co.uk> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU IVFDF = Inter Varsity Folk Dance Festival. It is the longest running folk festival in the UK, this year was the 53rd such event. It was originally for students and was held on one day. It is now a 3-day event which is open to students and th3e young at heart. Michael Barraclough (Joint organiser of the 1975 London IVFDF) http://www.mab.tgis.co.uk Monday, March 03, 2003 at 12:33:34 PM, ECD-AT-ssrl04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU wrote: > um, excuse my ignorance, but would someone please translate "IVFDF", & > tell us a little about it? I guess that "FDF" is "Folk Dance Festival", > but can't figure out the rest of it. > > What all is on the weekend's programme? > > thanks, > Deb, who doesn't fall into either category > > > Jen Wood wrote: > > > > Having come back from IVFDF last night (and thoroughly enjoyed the > > weekend), e > > -- --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT30XYNQFCEOTRL9-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:57:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB600501PWI8T-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB6001E9PWIEG-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:57:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:57:48 -0500 (EST) From: Terence Gaffney Subject: Calculated Figures and an evening to dance them in the Boston area Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Dear Friends, Gary's last message encourages me to make an announcement. Gary will be leading an evening dance devoted to his dances at the Concord Scout House on Saturday March 29. Musicians will be Ken Allen, Doug Creighton, and Vince O'Donnell. The dance starts at 7:30, ticket prices are $10 for CDS members, and $12 for non-members. Gary writes on his website " After dancers have learned one of my dances, I would like the flow of the dance to seem as inevitable as the flow of the music, with little need to concentrate on what comes next. " We've been doing ball prep for the last month here in Boston, and those lines are a good description of both of Gary's dances on the Ball program--"Mary K" and "Terpsicourante". "Terpsicourante" for example is a four couple set dance with three blocks, the last block is a serpentine progression. Often in a dance with a 3 block structure and a distinctive last figure, the middle block gets lost. In "Terpsicourante" each figure in the middle block follows inevitably once you realize that you are gearing up for the serpentine. So, once the logic of the dance clicks, it's easy to do--last wednesday in Boston we had a room full of people doing it with no walkthrough, only a talk through, and every set got it. As for "Mary K" it's a great dance--I only hope everybody has a chance to do it soon. Best, Terry --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT3A6G8SO0EOOK7I-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB700D0124QJS-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB700D2324Q5A-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:22:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:20:06 -0800 From: "Klein, Anita" Subject: Easter Thursday Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ntoR+ipDfOvS2agYzgBr0g)" X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --Boundary_(ID_ntoR+ipDfOvS2agYzgBr0g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I remember dancing 'Easter Thursday' in Palo Alto long ago where the B part of the dance included setting backward, forward, right and then left, tracing a little cross. (Very appropriate for Easter.) The version of Easter Thursday we are doing for the BACDS Playford Ball has a set right and left but not backward and forward. I prefer the little cross figure because it fits so well with the title of the dance. Which variation do you all usually do/teach? Anyone know the history of this dance? Anita Klein --Boundary_(ID_ntoR+ipDfOvS2agYzgBr0g) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Easter Thursday

I remember dancing 'Easter Thursday' in Palo Alto long ago where the B part of the dance included setting backward, forward, right and then left, tracing a little cross.  (Very appropriate for Easter.)  The version of Easter Thursday we are doing for the BACDS Playford Ball has a set right and left but not backward and forward.  I prefer the little cross figure because it fits so well with the title of the dance.   Which variation do you all usually do/teach?  Anyone know the history of this dance? 

Anita Klein

--Boundary_(ID_ntoR+ipDfOvS2agYzgBr0g)-- --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT3HA5Y34CEONJ7Z-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB700A01BKGMQ-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB700896BKGUO-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:45:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:45:47 -0800 From: Chris Sackett & Brooke Friendly Subject: Re: Easter Thursday Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <3E64054B.3BA030B6-AT-opendoor.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU We do Carl Wittman's interpretation of the original dance (in the original, the handing on the turns is not specified which many consider to mean they were two hand turns; Carl found a complete right hand turn followed by a left hand turn in A2 to be 'particularly satisfactory') A Neighbors dance back to back (3 bars); partners dance back to back (3 bars) A Neighbors R-hand turn (3 bars); partners L-hand turn (3 bars) B All set to diagonal* (2 bars), turn single R and clap** (2 bars) into circle 4-hands once round (2 bars) B Ones cross down between twos & cast up (2 bars), cross over passing R-shoulder & dance down outside while twos dance up (2 bars), 2-hand turn once round (2 bars) * to right and left facing center of foursome ** clap comes at beginning of bar 4; it is a gentle punctuation clap According to my notes from Carl, identical versions of both figure and text appeared in Walsh (1735), Young (1737) and Johnson (c. 1740s) as follows: The 1st Cu. Back to Back with the 2d Cu and then with their Partners. The 1st Cu. turn the 2d Cu. then turn their own. meet all four and set, then turn S. and clap hands, all four going quite round. Then the 1st Cu. go the figure through the 2d Cu. and cross over and turn their own partners In 1977 an interpretation by Bernard Bentley was published in the Fallibroome Collection 5 in which the clap and circle (all four going quite round) were omitted and 'all balance and forward to meet' was how B1 started (then set, turn single). This must be the 'cross figure' you mention. I've done the Bentley version before and personally found the balance forward and back, then set to feel fussy, particularly when compared to the set, turn single which flows into a circle round which helps drive one into the faster pace (compared to the A part) of the B2. Brooke Ashland OR USA "Klein, Anita" wrote: > > > I remember dancing 'Easter Thursday' in Palo Alto long ago where the B > part of the dance included setting backward, forward, right and then > left, tracing a little cross. (Very appropriate for Easter.) The > version of Easter Thursday we are doing for the BACDS Playford Ball > has a set right and left but not backward and forward. I prefer the > little cross figure because it fits so well with the title of the > dance. Which variation do you all usually do/teach? Anyone know the > history of this dance? > > Anita Klein --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT3HLVXN08EONJ7Z-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB700B01C07FS-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB7008GMC07FO-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:55:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:55:11 -0500 (EST) From: Terence Gaffney Subject: Re: Easter Thursday Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU In Boston we use the balance back then forward then right and left figure. When I first started doing ECD I was blown awy by how powerful those simple moves were. I tried the variation Brook mentioned and didn't like it as much, which just shows the same set of figures can produce different effects. Best, Terry --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT4NJKP7LKEOVW7Q-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB800J01VLFL0-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB800J0CVLEJO-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:56:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:52:18 -0800 (PST) From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing Subject: Questions about Bray and "A Concealed Health" Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <01KT4NJBO0FKEOT73W-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ECders -- I received the following queries from a librarian in Roseburg, OR. =============================================================================== Hello - We found your name through your article on English Country Dancing posted on the Stanford website. We have a patron who has several questions about a particular dance by Thomas Bray called "A Concealed Health," and hope you might be able to provide some historical details: Was there a play with this title, and if so, what does it mean? If not, did the dance appear in another play of the period? Is the Thomas Bray who wrote for the theatre the same as the clergyman who was sent to Maryland to organize the Anglican Church in 1699? We've been unable to find any mention of involvement with theatre or dance in our research on the clergyman. =============================================================================== Does anybody have Christine Helwig's Bray book to hand? This may answer the questions about "Concealed Health." My impression is: Bray's works were all intended as theatrical afterpieces, so the dance would have appeared or been intended to appear in _some_ play. Bray's book was published in 1699; that seems a very unlikely credential for a clergyman. Anyway, please post to the list and I'll summarize responses. I may be able to lay hands on my copy of the book when I get home. -- Alan =============================================================================== Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 =============================================================================== --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT4NJKP7LKEOVW7Q-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB800J01VLFL0-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB800J0CVLEJO-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:56:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:52:18 -0800 (PST) From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing Subject: Questions about Bray and "A Concealed Health" Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <01KT4NJBO0FKEOT73W-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ECders -- I received the following queries from a librarian in Roseburg, OR. =============================================================================== Hello - We found your name through your article on English Country Dancing posted on the Stanford website. We have a patron who has several questions about a particular dance by Thomas Bray called "A Concealed Health," and hope you might be able to provide some historical details: Was there a play with this title, and if so, what does it mean? If not, did the dance appear in another play of the period? Is the Thomas Bray who wrote for the theatre the same as the clergyman who was sent to Maryland to organize the Anglican Church in 1699? We've been unable to find any mention of involvement with theatre or dance in our research on the clergyman. =============================================================================== Does anybody have Christine Helwig's Bray book to hand? This may answer the questions about "Concealed Health." My impression is: Bray's works were all intended as theatrical afterpieces, so the dance would have appeared or been intended to appear in _some_ play. Bray's book was published in 1699; that seems a very unlikely credential for a clergyman. Anyway, please post to the list and I'll summarize responses. I may be able to lay hands on my copy of the book when I get home. -- Alan =============================================================================== Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 =============================================================================== --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT4O7KAAREEOPB5V-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB800L01WGCX0-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:14:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB800L08WGCV1-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:14:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:14:13 -0500 (EST) From: CPChurchOffice-AT-aol.com Subject: Re: Questions about Bray and "A Concealed Health" Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <103.28ac92f1.2b967f35-AT-aol.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU My understanding is that the Puritans and other religious early colonists were only against "lewd" dancing. I recommend reading "Worldly Saints" by Leland Ryken for learning more about the revelry of the Puritans. Margaret Talbot Administrative Assistant Christ Presbyterian Church 410 398-3192 Mailing address: 14 Woodbine Circle Elkton, MD 21921 Please visit our website: www.christpresbyterianchurch.com This site includes our calendar and gives details on programs and events such as our Valentines Day Ball, our Van Til Conference March 20-22, 2003 and other events WEEKLY SERVICE SCHEDULE Sunday Afternoon Pre Worship Prayer 2:15 - 2:45 PM Lord’s Day Worship 3:00 - 4:45 PM Fellowship 4:45 - 5:05 PM Announcements 5:05 - 5:15 PM Sunday School 5:15 - 6:00 PM Wednesday Evening Prayer and Singing 7:00 - 8:00 PM Meeting in the rented sanctuary of Elkton Presbyterian Church 209 East Main Street, Elkton, Maryland --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT4O7KAAREEOPB5V-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB800L01WGCX0-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:14:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB800L08WGCV1-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:14:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:14:13 -0500 (EST) From: CPChurchOffice-AT-aol.com Subject: Re: Questions about Bray and "A Concealed Health" Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <103.28ac92f1.2b967f35-AT-aol.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU My understanding is that the Puritans and other religious early colonists were only against "lewd" dancing. I recommend reading "Worldly Saints" by Leland Ryken for learning more about the revelry of the Puritans. Margaret Talbot Administrative Assistant Christ Presbyterian Church 410 398-3192 Mailing address: 14 Woodbine Circle Elkton, MD 21921 Please visit our website: www.christpresbyterianchurch.com This site includes our calendar and gives details on programs and events such as our Valentines Day Ball, our Van Til Conference March 20-22, 2003 and other events WEEKLY SERVICE SCHEDULE Sunday Afternoon Pre Worship Prayer 2:15 - 2:45 PM Lord’s Day Worship 3:00 - 4:45 PM Fellowship 4:45 - 5:05 PM Announcements 5:05 - 5:15 PM Sunday School 5:15 - 6:00 PM Wednesday Evening Prayer and Singing 7:00 - 8:00 PM Meeting in the rented sanctuary of Elkton Presbyterian Church 209 East Main Street, Elkton, Maryland --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT4O9NTTI0EOVW7Q-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB800M01WJ64N-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB800JA4WJ5CI-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:16:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:16:10 -0800 (PST) From: Graham Christian Subject: Re: Questions about Bray and "A Concealed Health" Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <20030304221610.87672.qmail-AT-web20602.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU I am not *uniquely* qualified to answer this question, but since my email address certainly signifies that I'm a Brayhead, I'm willing to give it a go. A "conceal'd health" is a secret and divergent toast. Everyone else toasts the Queen; you think secretly of your true love and murmur, "To *you*, Mistress Pneumonia Snodgrass, wherever you may be," and drink with, but also not with, the others. Christine and Kitty's research could not establish any link with a play or a play of that title. They know about the clergyman and think the connection very unlikely, and in fact I think his birthdate is "wrong" for our Th. Bray. Our Bray--if I remember correctly--is noted as a dancer in the later 1670s, then turns up in the employ of Drury Lane in the late 1680s and 1690s--and not very often, at that. There is no mention of him after his publication of 1699. I personally think--but keep in mind that I am speculating wildly now--he died that year or soon thereafter, since we hear no more of him--nothing from the theatrical records, no more collections, nothing. We tell ourselves over and over that Bray's dances were intended for and used by the theater--but even that is speculation. Bray proudly *lists* (not reproduces) dances he wrote for professionals at the back of his Country Dances--so he makes a distinction between dances for the pros and the Country Dances. It's certainly a good guess that some or all of his country dances may have been used as entr'actes or closers--but it's still a guess. None of them says, as does "Trip to the Jubilee," "As 'Tis Danced at the Play-House." And *how* were they done? 4 couples? 3 couples? 2 couples twice-through? We don't really know. The "tongue" of the apron-stage where we think they danced was not large in any case; I don't know if it would have taken as many as 4 couples. I'm dying to know who's asking in Roseburg, OR. --- Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > ECders -- > > I received the following queries from a librarian in > Roseburg, OR. > > =============================================================================== > Hello - We found your name through your article on > English > Country Dancing posted on the Stanford website. > > We have a patron who has several questions about a > particular dance by > Thomas Bray called "A Concealed Health," and hope > you might be able to > provide some historical details: > > Was there a play with this title, and if so, what > does it mean? If not, > > did the dance appear in another play of the period? > > Is the Thomas Bray who wrote for the theatre the > same as the clergyman > who was sent to Maryland to organize the Anglican > Church in 1699? We've > > been unable to find any mention of involvement with > theatre or dance in > our research on the clergyman. > =============================================================================== > > Does anybody have Christine Helwig's Bray book to > hand? This may answer the > questions about "Concealed Health." > > My impression is: Bray's works were all intended as > theatrical afterpieces, so > the dance would have appeared or been intended to > appear in _some_ play. > > Bray's book was published in 1699; that seems a very > unlikely credential for a > clergyman. > > Anyway, please post to the list and I'll summarize > responses. I may be able to > lay hands on my copy of the book when I get home. > > -- Alan > > > =============================================================================== > Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU > Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or > SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 > Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill > Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 > =============================================================================== > ===== Graham Christian "Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow." __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT4O9NTTI0EOVW7Q-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB800M01WJ64N-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB800JA4WJ5CI-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:16:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:16:10 -0800 (PST) From: Graham Christian Subject: Re: Questions about Bray and "A Concealed Health" Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <20030304221610.87672.qmail-AT-web20602.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU I am not *uniquely* qualified to answer this question, but since my email address certainly signifies that I'm a Brayhead, I'm willing to give it a go. A "conceal'd health" is a secret and divergent toast. Everyone else toasts the Queen; you think secretly of your true love and murmur, "To *you*, Mistress Pneumonia Snodgrass, wherever you may be," and drink with, but also not with, the others. Christine and Kitty's research could not establish any link with a play or a play of that title. They know about the clergyman and think the connection very unlikely, and in fact I think his birthdate is "wrong" for our Th. Bray. Our Bray--if I remember correctly--is noted as a dancer in the later 1670s, then turns up in the employ of Drury Lane in the late 1680s and 1690s--and not very often, at that. There is no mention of him after his publication of 1699. I personally think--but keep in mind that I am speculating wildly now--he died that year or soon thereafter, since we hear no more of him--nothing from the theatrical records, no more collections, nothing. We tell ourselves over and over that Bray's dances were intended for and used by the theater--but even that is speculation. Bray proudly *lists* (not reproduces) dances he wrote for professionals at the back of his Country Dances--so he makes a distinction between dances for the pros and the Country Dances. It's certainly a good guess that some or all of his country dances may have been used as entr'actes or closers--but it's still a guess. None of them says, as does "Trip to the Jubilee," "As 'Tis Danced at the Play-House." And *how* were they done? 4 couples? 3 couples? 2 couples twice-through? We don't really know. The "tongue" of the apron-stage where we think they danced was not large in any case; I don't know if it would have taken as many as 4 couples. I'm dying to know who's asking in Roseburg, OR. --- Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > ECders -- > > I received the following queries from a librarian in > Roseburg, OR. > > =============================================================================== > Hello - We found your name through your article on > English > Country Dancing posted on the Stanford website. > > We have a patron who has several questions about a > particular dance by > Thomas Bray called "A Concealed Health," and hope > you might be able to > provide some historical details: > > Was there a play with this title, and if so, what > does it mean? If not, > > did the dance appear in another play of the period? > > Is the Thomas Bray who wrote for the theatre the > same as the clergyman > who was sent to Maryland to organize the Anglican > Church in 1699? We've > > been unable to find any mention of involvement with > theatre or dance in > our research on the clergyman. > =============================================================================== > > Does anybody have Christine Helwig's Bray book to > hand? This may answer the > questions about "Concealed Health." > > My impression is: Bray's works were all intended as > theatrical afterpieces, so > the dance would have appeared or been intended to > appear in _some_ play. > > Bray's book was published in 1699; that seems a very > unlikely credential for a > clergyman. > > Anyway, please post to the list and I'll summarize > responses. I may be able to > lay hands on my copy of the book when I get home. > > -- Alan > > > =============================================================================== > Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU > Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or > SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 > Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill > Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 > =============================================================================== > ===== Graham Christian "Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow." __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT4OFIV6KOEOPB5V-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB800M01WR1YE-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:21:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB800JENWR1VU-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:21:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:17:38 -0800 (PST) From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing Subject: Re: Questions about Bray and "A Concealed Health" Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <01KT4OFB1XIWEOT73W-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Margaret Talbot wrote: > My understanding is that the Puritans and other religious early colonists > were only against "lewd" dancing. I recommend reading "Worldly Saints" by > Leland Ryken for learning more about the revelry of the Puritans. I think this is your first posting on the ECD list. Welcome! Haven't read "Worldly Saints" but enjoyed a book called "Puritans at Play" about the recreations of the Puritans in the American colonies; this agreed that dancing and music were generally accepted. But I still don't think a clergyman of any stripe - and the Anglicans weren't particularly Puritan - would have benefited, in 1699, from a known association with theatrical people. -- Alan =============================================================================== Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 =============================================================================== --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT4XE21S82EOUT4L-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB9002018N8S8-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB900INL8N7C9-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:37:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:35:51 -0800 (PST) From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing Subject: Wrapping up "A Concealed Health" Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <01KT4XDTPLDAEO5JZD-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ECDers -- Here's the response to my summary of Bray answers (which was, basically, Graham's note, since it seemed to cover the territory pretty well). Perhaps Chris and Brooke can say hi to Max and his wife from the ECD list. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Library Adult Services Subject: Re: Thomas Bray To: winston-AT-SLAC.Stanford.EDU Alan - Thank you so much for your very prompt and informative reply, including the forwarded message from Graham Christian. I had found reference to the Helwig book but don't have ready access to it. In response to Mr. Christian's curiosity, please let him know that the inquirer is the director of our library system, Max Leek, who along with his wife, is an avid country dancer. There is a Spring Ball in Ashland, OR (site of the Oregon Shakespeare Festival, among other cultural activities) at which participants will be dancing "A Concealed Health." I'm forwarding both your message and Mr. Christian's to Max, along with another very interesting reply from pianist Jacqueline Schwab. Country Dance folk are certainly most kind and sharing! With great appreciation, Deborah Reference Desk, Adult Services Douglas County Library System 1409 NE Diamond Lake Blvd. Roseburg, OR 97470 (541) 440-4305 libadult-AT-co.douglas.or.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I didn't get a copy of Jacqueline's reply. -- Alan =============================================================================== Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 =============================================================================== --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT5CZJZVPWEOSS9D-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Wed, 05 Mar 2003 02:04:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HB900B01TBAFO-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Wed, 05 Mar 2003 02:04:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HB9004HWTB99P-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Wed, 05 Mar 2003 02:04:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 02:04:10 -0800 From: Howard Carlberg Subject: Re: Car Talk Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <3E65CB8C.3540B66B-AT-ix.netcom.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <00A1C411.D0A775E0.1-AT-playford.slac.stanford.edu> X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU "Linda M. Nelson" wrote "But... back to relevant content... have any of you found the perfect dance gypsy car? Fuel efficient, reliable (gotta get there and back again), safe, enough space for Ball attire, shoes, swords, sticks, hanks, costumes, etc?" I've been pretty happy with our Geo Metro/ Chevy Metro, no trouble and hardly no maintenance. We just replaced it with a Suzuki Swift, identical car, different name. I was skeptical of the 3 cylinder 1 liter motor at first, but the thing hums down the road at any speed I want, at 47 mpg. It seems well balanced, airbags and sidebars, I feel safer in it than in my van. Howard -- --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT65EX4FIKEOQDYY-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Wed, 05 Mar 2003 15:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HBA00G01V05IJ-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Wed, 05 Mar 2003 15:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HBA00AKFV05BC-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Wed, 05 Mar 2003 15:38:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 23:38:19 +0000 From: Paul Ross Subject: Re: Easter Thursday Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Bcc: Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU I believe Carl's version is the same as what Christine Helwig used to teach in the NY area, but that interpretation has receded in favor of the following: A1 3 Neighbors back to back 3 P back to back A2 3 Neighbors 2 h turn 3 P 2 h turn B1 2 All bal back (3 counts), then bal fwd (3 counts) 2 All S right and left (6 counts. triple time setting) 2 All turn single R (6) B2 4 1C 1/2 fig 8 through 2C below, cross over in 1 place, and dance down to 2 place (2s moving up) 2 All turn P 2 h 1x When we teach the 2 h turns in A2, we remind dancers to not rush them (it's so easy to do so) and to transition to the second 2 h turn with what Fried Herman calls a "slow release." That is, neighbors turn 2 h 1x, at the end of which they hold near hands and reach with their free hand toward P, forming for a mere instant what appears to be a hands-4. This briefly defined hands-4 smoothly melds into a 2 h turn with P. The effect is quite lovely. The 1/2 figure for the 1s is done with a light skipping step, necessary to get around in time to not rush the 6-count 2 h turn with P at the end and also to add texture to the dance. Note that the movements in the A music cross the musical phrase, which makes some members of the list rather cross but which I rather like. >From: Chris Sackett & Brooke Friendly >Reply-To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU >To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU >Subject: Re: Easter Thursday >Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:45:47 -0800 > >We do Carl Wittman's interpretation of the original dance (in the >original, the handing on the turns is not specified which many consider >to mean they were two hand turns; Carl found a complete right hand turn >followed by a left hand turn in A2 to be 'particularly satisfactory') > >A Neighbors dance back to back (3 bars); partners dance back to back >(3 bars) > >A Neighbors R-hand turn (3 bars); partners L-hand turn (3 bars) > >B All set to diagonal* (2 bars), turn single R and clap** (2 bars) >into circle 4-hands once > round (2 bars) > >B Ones cross down between twos & cast up (2 bars), cross over >passing R-shoulder & > dance down outside while twos dance up (2 bars), 2-hand turn >once round (2 bars) > >* to right and left facing center of foursome >** clap comes at beginning of bar 4; it is a gentle punctuation clap > >According to my notes from Carl, identical versions of both figure and >text appeared in Walsh (1735), Young (1737) and Johnson (c. 1740s) as >follows: >The 1st Cu. Back to Back with the 2d Cu and then with their Partners. >The 1st Cu. turn the 2d Cu. then turn their own. meet all four and set, >then turn S. and clap hands, all four going quite round. Then the 1st >Cu. go the figure through the 2d Cu. and cross over and turn their own >partners > >In 1977 an interpretation by Bernard Bentley was published in the >Fallibroome Collection 5 in which the clap and circle (all four going >quite round) were omitted and 'all balance and forward to meet' was how >B1 started (then set, turn single). > >This must be the 'cross figure' you mention. I've done the Bentley >version before and personally found the balance forward and back, then >set to feel fussy, particularly when compared to the set, turn single >which flows into a circle round which helps drive one into the faster >pace (compared to the A part) of the B2. > >Brooke >Ashland OR USA > >"Klein, Anita" wrote: > > > > > > > I remember dancing 'Easter Thursday' in Palo Alto long ago where the B > > part of the dance included setting backward, forward, right and then > > left, tracing a little cross. (Very appropriate for Easter.) The > > version of Easter Thursday we are doing for the BACDS Playford Ball > > has a set right and left but not backward and forward. I prefer the > > little cross figure because it fits so well with the title of the > > dance. Which variation do you all usually do/teach? Anyone know the > > history of this dance? > > > > Anita Klein _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT6H44EDWUEOWOJV-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HBB00J01AIBTH-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HBB00DMFAIAPX-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:13:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:13:25 -0800 From: Chris Sackett & Brooke Friendly Subject: Re: Wrapping up "A Concealed Health" Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <3E66D8F4.E35681F5-AT-opendoor.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <01KT4XDTPLDAEO5JZD-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Yes we'll say hi to Max and Susan at our Spring Ball (English and Scottish). Better yet, we invite you all to come say to them and us (and dance Concealed Health, Mary K and a host of other great dances) on April 5 in Ashland OR. On Friday we'll have a Celtic Dance Party (fun and easy dances for the whole family) or you could go to a play at the Oregon Shakespeare Festival. More info about the ball on our website: www.opendoor.com/heatherandrose Brooke Ashland OR USA Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > ECDers -- > > Here's the response to my summary of Bray answers (which was, basically, > Graham's note, since it seemed to cover the territory pretty well). > > Perhaps Chris and Brooke can say hi to Max and his wife from the ECD list. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: Library Adult Services > Subject: Re: Thomas Bray > To: winston-AT-SLAC.Stanford.EDU > > Alan - Thank you so much for your very prompt and informative reply, including > the forwarded message from Graham Christian. I had found reference to the > Helwig book but don't have ready access to it. > > In response to Mr. Christian's curiosity, please let him know that the inquirer > is the director of our library system, Max Leek, who along with his wife, is an > avid country dancer. There is a Spring Ball in Ashland, OR (site of the Oregon > Shakespeare Festival, among other cultural activities) at which participants > will be dancing "A Concealed Health." I'm forwarding both your message and > Mr. Christian's to Max, along with another very interesting reply from pianist > Jacqueline Schwab. Country Dance folk are certainly most kind and sharing! > > With great appreciation, Deborah > > Reference Desk, Adult Services > Douglas County Library System > 1409 NE Diamond Lake Blvd. > Roseburg, OR 97470 > (541) 440-4305 > libadult-AT-co.douglas.or.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > I didn't get a copy of Jacqueline's reply. > > -- Alan > > =============================================================================== > Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU > Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 > Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA 94025 > =============================================================================== --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT73SL1Z5WEOWJ1C-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 08:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HBC00D014L1IR-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 08:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HBC00C3O4L1E0-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 08:03:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 16:01:53 +0000 From: Colin Hume Subject: John Chapman Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD Mailing List Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU John Chapman died last night (5th March) of a heart attack. Dee does not want any phone calls at the moment. Further information when available. John has been one of the best-known American callers in the country for many years. He has called every one of the Bidford Dances, which he and Dee started, and was popular everywhere. People will remember him working with Arden Folk, his singing calls, his dances such as "Clopton Bridge"... but most of all they will remember what a lovely man he was, and how he made sure that everyone at one of his dances had a really good time. Colin Hume --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT7DRMVZAEEOSLA7-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:48:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HBC00001HSZU4-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HBC00MDHHSZ4S-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:48:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:48:25 -0800 (PST) From: Graham Christian Subject: Historical Dance Program &c. Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <20030306204825.18426.qmail-AT-web20609.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Dear Doctor D.: Hope you don't mind that I sent Ferdinand Grueneis your direction. I should be between work and graduate school, so I am *really* hoping to be part of AEMF this round. But I will do my utmost not to make such a blasted fuss--I'm sure it jinxed me last time. --- Dorothy Olsson wrote: > > (Please excuse any cross-postings.) > > “Dance rouses the spirit to joy, relieves and > refreshes us, > keeping away annoying or unpleasant thoughts.” > Fabritio Caroso, 1600 > > Please join us for the … > > HISTORICAL DANCE PROGRAM > > AT THE > > AMHERST EARLY MUSIC FESTIVAL > > July 27-August 3, 2003 > > University of Connecticut at Storrs > > THIS YEAR’S THEME: > > “Music of Iberia and the Low Countries: Medieval, > Renaissance, and Baroque” > > For over twenty years the historical dance program > has been a highly > successful part of the Amherst Early Music Festival, > itself the largest > festival of its kind in the world. Students > particularly enjoy the > opportunities for performance, along with > stimulating classes by dance > historians and performers. [See our website for > comments from workshop > participants: http://www.amherstearlymusic.org/] > > FACULTY > > Dorothy Olsson, Director; Kaspar D. Mainz; Carol G. > Marsh > For faculty bios, see: > http://www.amherstearlymusic.org/ > > DANCE CLASSES > > Dance is an integral part of the Amherst Early Music > Festival; for the 2003 > workshop, classes will be offered in Renaissance and > Baroque dance, and > contredanses of the Netherlands and Spain. All > levels of dancers are welcome. > > Tentative Schedule as of February 14, 2003 (subject > to change; see: > http://www.amherstearlymusic.org/ for most current > information and for photos): > > Week I > > The program consists of four classes daily, Monday > through Friday, with a > performance on Friday evening. Participants are also > entitled to attend > many other events (including English country > dancing, concerts and > lectures) in the evenings that are part of the > Amherst Early Music Festival > Central Program. (see: > http://www.amherstearlymusic.org/) > > Faculty: Dr. Dorothy Olsson, Kaspar D. Mainz, Dr. > Carol Marsh > > Class schedule: > > 9-10:30 am > Mutanza, or Variations in Late Renaissance Dance. > Mainz, Olsson > Dance technique from late Renaissance > sources with an emphasis on > dance variations. Some preparation for the theater > project, La Púrpura de > la rosa (“The Blood of the Rose”). Participants must > also be enrolled in > the late afternoon class. > > 10:45 am-12:15 pm > Los muchachos hermosos (The handsome boys): > 18th-century > Contredanses/Contradanzas from the Netherlands and > Spain. Marsh > Reconstruction of a variety of 18th-century > > contredanses/contradanzas and historical overview of > 18th-century country > dance and contredanse. > > 1:30-3 pm > Advanced Baroque Dance. Mainz > Baroque dance technique for experienced > dancers, including some > material from the 1758 Spanish source, Arte de > danzar a la francesa by > Minguet é Irol. > > 1:30-3 pm > Beginning Renaissance and Baroque Dance. Olsson > Introduction to Renaissance and Baroque > court dances from Italy, > France, and England, including the bassedanse, > pavan, branles, alman, > galliard, bourée, saraband, gigue and minuet. > > 3:30-5:30 pm > Theater Project Dance Rehearsal. Mainz, Olsson > Rehearsal of dances for La Púrpura de la > rosa (“The Blood of the > Rose”). First rehearsal, 1 pm, Sunday, July 27. > Possible Tue., Wed., and > Thu. Evening rehearsals. Performance Friday evening, > August 1. Participants > must also be enrolled in the first morning class. > > > PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITIES > > An Opera from the New World! > > Participants will also have the opportunity, unusual > among summer > workshops, to perform in a public theatrical > performance, with costumes and > to the accompaniment of live music. > > This year our production will be La Púrpura de la > rosa (“The Blood of the > Rose”), believed to be the first opera written in > the New World. Written by > Spanish composer Tomás de Torrejón y Velasco in > 1701, it is an intriguing > love story replete with a variety of mythological > and mortal characters; > the music is enriched with lively dance rhythms from > Spanish and Latin > American folklore. > > Our performance will take place on August 1, 2003, > during the first week of > the Amherst Early Music Festival. Director: Andrew > Lawrence-King. Dance > Directors: Dorothy Olsson, Kaspar D. Mainz. Stage > Director: Grant Herreid. > Scriptwriter: Lawrence Rosenwald. Costumer: Kathy > Lewis. > > There will be other performance opportunities, on > the student concert. > > CONCERTS > > Participants can attend a wide array of concerts; > this year’s concerts will > feature Marion Verbruggen, Ex Umbris, the 20th > Anniversary Historical Harp > Concert and more! See the Amherst Early Music > Festival home page for > information on the 2003 concert schedule: > http://www.amherstearlymusic.org/ > > FOR MORE INFORMATION AND APPLICATION FORM > > http://www.amherstearlymusic.org/aemf2003-dance.htm > > For more information, see our website: > http://www.amherstearlymusic.org/ > (Historical Dance Program, under Program > Information) > > Amherst Early Music > www.amherstearlymusic.org > Marilyn Boenau, Director > 50 Hovey St. > Watertown, MA 02472 > Phone: 617-744-1324 > Fax: 617-744-1327 > E-mail: info-AT-amherstearlymusic.org > Web address: http://www.amherstearlymusic.org/ > > For more information about the dance program, > contact Dr. Dorothy Olsson: > dolsson-AT-nyc.rr.com > > Für Informationen auf Deutsch, bitte kontaktieren > Sie Kaspar D. Mainz: > KasparMnz-AT-aol.com > > > ===== Graham Christian "Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow." __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT7DT7VA6CEOSLA7-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:49:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HBC00001HV4WX-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:49:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HBC00IMAHV3GQ-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:49:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:49:46 -0800 (PST) From: Graham Christian Subject: Please ignore my last! Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: <20030306204946.47494.qmail-AT-web20606.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Please ignore my last and incomprehensible message. Wrong recipient. ===== Graham Christian "Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow." __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT7QT74BGIEOUIPZ-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:01:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HBC00H01Z2U68-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:01:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HBC00BHBZ2T7J-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:01:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 22:00:39 -0500 From: "Linda M. Nelson" Subject: East Sandwich, Cape Cod, MA, USA - Alive and Well and Still Dancing Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Hi all - I was recently surprised (as, it turns out, were a few others) to read Francis Worrell's Change of Schedule announcement in the March/April CDSS News..."The English Country Dance on Cape Cod is not scheduling any dances from now until June." We have more than one English Country Dance venue on Cape Cod, and therefore the announcement is causing some confusion and a little alarm. Here's the scoop: The dance thus sadly placed on temporary hold is held in Harwich, usually 2nd and 4th Fridays, organized and led by Francis Worrell. The dance is listed in the CDSS Group Directory. Meanwhile, back at the ranch... The *other* English Country Dance on Cape Cod is held in East Sandwich on (most) 3rd Fridays. Dance leaders are Priscilla Adams and Linda Nelson, music by Jan Elliott and friends. Email me for more information. We are alive and well and kicking up our heels! You will continue to see announcements for the 3rd Friday, East Sandwich, dance on the ECD list. Currently scheduled dances for East Sandwich: March 21, May 16, June 20, July 18, 2003. (No dance in April - NEFFA) Thanks for listening! - Linda -- __________________________________________________ "Oh, yes. It's vital to remember who you really are. It's very important. It isn't a good idea to rely on other people or things to do it for you, you see. They always get it wrong." (Terry Pratchett - from "Sourcery") __________________________________________________ --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #37667) with ESMTP id <01KT9L05ENOAEPEZJD-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for winston-AT-SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 08 Mar 2003 02:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.smtp1.slac.stanford.edu by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) id <0HBF00C01ETTE3-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 08 Mar 2003 02:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu (ssrl04.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.33.14]) by smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (PMDF V6.1-1 #37665) with SMTP id <0HBF005K4ETTQC-AT-smtp1.slac.stanford.edu> for winston-AT-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu (ORCPT winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU); Sat, 08 Mar 2003 02:37:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 10:38:15 +0000 From: Colin Hume Subject: John Chapman Sender: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU To: ECD Mailing List Errors-to: owner-ecd-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Warnings-to: <> Reply-to: ECD-AT-PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Listname: Discussion of modern and historical English Country Dance Original-recipient: rfc822;winston-AT-SSRL01.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU John Chapman's funeral will be on Friday 14 March 2003 at 11.30 hrs. at Holy Trinity Church, Stratford upon Avon. Arrangements are being made by Keith Richards (Ad Hoc band), and he writes: For those who may not know, this is Stratford Parish Church (with a spire), on the same side of the river as the Shakespeare Memorial Theatre, further along the river bank about a quarter of a mile away from the Theatre and the main part of the town. The location is shown at: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=420140&Y=254350&A=Y&Z=3 Dee and her family have requested that only the immediate family send flowers but there will be a collection during the service and details of the beneficiary(s) will be published on the order of service sheets which will be issued at the church to those attending. After the service at Holy Trinity Church there will be a burial but in the circumstances Dee has asked for only the immediate family to be present and you are all asked to respect this. Similarly, due to the logistics of numbers etc., it has not been possible in the time available to arrange a suitable venue for everyone present to meet afterwards and in this respect on behalf of Dee and the family I would ask for your forbearance. It is hoped to arrange a Memorial Dance at some future date and details of this will be published in due course. You are respectfully but specifically requested not to telephone Dee at this very difficult time. If anyone would like any further information then either Keith or Mary will do their best to help. Their telephone number is 01527 522433 and you may leave a message if they should be out when you call. Colin Hume --Boundary_(ID_2BsqTbyGQEIfu+924BulvQ) Return-path: Received: from smtp1.slac.stanford.edu (smtp1.slac.stanford.edu [134.79.18.82]) by SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V