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Hi all -
someone mentioned a dance "Woeful lover(s)" for five couples to me. I've
never heard of it. Information, anybody?

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Hello all,

since a couple of months I'm only a lurker, but now I want to give a
reaction.

Yes, Hanny, the dance "The Woeful Lover" really exists ! It's a Pat Shaw
dance, and you can find it in his collection "New Wine in Old Bottles".
This is a series of dances Pat made on old Dutch tunes. A couple of years
ago, Antony Heywood, Marjorie Fennessey and Nicolas Broadbridge made a very
interesting re-edition.  I can recommend it to you !  It contains a lot of
interesting dances.  There is also a beautiful CD, by the Assembly Players
(Nic Broadbridge et al.) which has a lot of the tunes of "New Wines in Old
Bottles" on it.

I can recommend both Book and CD to you !  Nicolas and Antony can tell you a
lot more on them.

Try, for example, these dances (we do them often in Holland and Belgium!) :
the Waters of Holland, Cecilia, the Carillon at Sneek, the Slof Galliard,
the Koepoort Galliard, Sweet Rosie Red, Sally from Poland, Little
Nightingale, Dear papa and dear mama, ...

The dance "The Woeful Lover" is not for a big crowd : it is difficult, and
will only be appreciated by real "connoisseurs" of the English dance.  But
it is a nice dance.

I hope I gave you enough information now.

Regards,

Simone Verheyen (from Belgium)


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Hi all -
someone mentioned a dance "Woeful lover(s)" for five couples to me. I've
never heard of it. Information, anybody?

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Hi  Hanny,
I think you are probably referring to The Woeful Lover in Pat Shaw's 'New
Wine in Old Bottles', which is for 5 couples. I've only called it once, but
personally, I like it very much.
Regards,
Ann Higley

> someone mentioned a dance "Woeful lover(s)" for five couples to me. I've
> never heard of it. Information, anybody?
  Hanny




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Thanks, Ann and Simone!
Actually, Pat himself gave me one of the manila folders with "New Wine in
Old Bottles" when he was visiting in 1974. It never occurred to me to look
there...
We've gone pretty far afield by now!
Dutch melodies + British choreographer = ECD
German melody + American choreographer = ECD
Italian melodies + Dutch choreographer = ECD

I'm sure we could continue that list of peculiarities...

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Last weekend Alan posted a flyer about a dance cruise in November, &
asked if someone else could find out more information.  I emailed the
contact at AAA South, & got a little more information.  As Alan said,
I'm not making an endorsement.  This is all I know about it.  I asked
for more specifics about just what (size/composition) the dance surfaces
would be; didn't get an answer to that.  The line "Band performance
contingent upon group requirements being met" makes me nervous....

--Deb

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AAA AUTO SOUTH CLUB and Southern Jubilee band are planning a cruise on
the Carnival Ship Fantasy.
The ship leaves from Port Canaveral November 3, 2002 about 4:00pm.  It
stops at Freeport and Nassau in the Bahamas spends a "fun day at sea"
for a total of 4 nights getting back to Port Canaveral earlyThursday
morning.  We hope to be "Dancing  the Decks" 4-6 hours a day.  Charlie
Dyer will teach/call English and Contra dancing and Bill Stewart will
teach Scottish dancing.  An inside cabin is $366.35 per person and an
outside cabin with a picture window is $406.35 per person.  Deposit of
$200.00 per person is requested.  Send me legal names, birthdates,
credit cards and what type of cabin you would like.  Legal  proof of
citizenship(passport or birth certificate with the raised seal) is required.

For more information on "Southern Jubliee String Band" check out their
website www.folkfiddle.com.

Band performance contingent upon group requirements being met.

AAA Travel
3718 Beach Blvd.
Jacksonville Fl 32207
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This was posted today on the Contra_Dance-AT-
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We're very excited about this! And hope that you can come dance with 
us! If you would pass it along to your dance friends we would 
appreciate it.  Thanks very much!   
Katie  kbmusic-AT-
bellsouth.net  www.folkfiddle.com 
 
Southern Jubilee String Band    
www.folkfiddle.com (there are links on the web page.)
and AAA Travel – Jacksonville, FL
Invite you to .... Dance on the Decks!
On the Carnival cruise ship... "Fantasy"
November 3 – 7, 2002
Featuring
English, Contra, and Scottish Dancing 
Charlie Dyer from St. Augustine, FL, will be calling.
4 - day Bahamas cruise leaving from Port Canaveral and
visiting Freeport and Nassau with dances each day!
(Bring your instruments, too. There will be jam time!)
 
Inside cabins starting at $366.35 pp
Outside cabins starting at $406.35 pp
For more information and to book your dance cruise contact...
 Linda Stewart -AAA Travel Jacksonville FL.
904 398-0564    lstewart-AT-
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Rate includes cruise, port charges, and government fees.
Katie Bailey - www.folkfiddle.com 



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I realize this list reaches far beyond Florida, but I would like to 
extend an invitation to the list members to come and join us in 
Melbourne Village, Florida, for a MidSummer's Night Ball.

This all started when the between dance conversation turned to 
summer and specifically how slow things seemed to be during the 
hot Florida summer months.  Individual groups such as the 
Sharpes Assembly have done balls for their own members, but we 
think this may be the first Ball to which invitations have gone out 
beyond the local groups.  We've been sending flyers around with 
the band and other dancers and would like to be sure that no one 
is left out..  If you live in Florida or plan to be visiting, please join us.

More details are on the web at www.folkdance.org, and feel free to 
e-mail me at jbdaly-AT-
compuserve.com.  Here are the basics.

The Ball will be Saturday evening June 22nd.  For those who 
respond by June 15th, we'll have a home-made dinner starting at 
6:00 pm (and the plan is to make the dinner as elegant as can be 
given the rather plain nature of the hall).  The Ball itself will start at 
8:00 pm.  Music by Jubilee.

From 1:00 to 4:30 on Saturday afternoon we'll have workshops on 
various dances.  Casual dress, recorded music.  Various cuers.  
Hopefully a fun afternoon.

Sunday Morning at 9:00 for those who want to stay over we'll have 
a continental breakfast (coffee, English Muffins, whatever) maybe 
do a couple dances, and then say good bye.

I'm getting excited just writing about it.  The cooks are getting 
frazzled just thinking about it.  It will be a great time.

John Daly
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This and the following post are both somewhat off-topic for this list,
for which I beg Alan's indulgence.  I am teaching two dance workshops
which may be of interest to a few folks here, at least those in the
northeastern USA.

First, on June 15th, in Stratford, Connecticut, I will be conducting a
workshop on late 16th-century Italian dance and leading some evening
social dancing.  The dances to be taught are from a 1581 Italian
manual which I have been working with for the last year - Caroso's
Il Ballarino, for those of you that means something to (hi, Sion!)

No experience in Renaissance dance is needed, and the dancing is for
the most part non-strenuous.  Country dancers will recognize some of
the figures (and may really like one hey...)  There's some speculation
that these dances are in some way related to early English country
dance - I'm not sure ancestral would be the right term, but there
are definite similarities in the set dances.

Please note that the day is a workshop; the evening is a social dance,
but it is NOT like a typical country dance evening, in that only a few
people dance at once while others watch or socialize.  There will be
plenty to eat and drink, as well as live music.

This is being run by the local SCA.  If you don't know what the SCA
is, please email and ask.  The most relevant information is that at
least some attempt at a costume is required - but we can help with
that - and that because it's a nonprofit educational organization,
we're all volunteers and thus it is extremely cheap - $12.00 for the
entire day and evening.

I should perhaps note that for those who find themselves peturbed by
not knowing people's full names, you will be thoroughly traumatized by
the fact that no one uses their real name at an SCA event, and I will
in fact teach under an SCA alias.  And in men's clothing, to boot.
With no nametag.  Demanding real names would be extraordinarily rude.
If you are unable to deal politely with this sort of event, please
don't come.

The workshop is limited to 36 people, and we have about a dozen spots
available.  Please email me privately, and soon, if you're interested.

Susan


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Now, the second event.

My June New York City workshop will occur on Sunday, June 16th (yes, I
have a busy weekend planned...) and will look at the original (1810's)
Regency quadrille.  This is a two-part workshop; the earlier part will
just be dance-walking through the figures.  The second part will
actually take a look at the early 19th-century steps and apply them to
the first figure and possibly the dance "La Boulangere" as well, time
permitting.  This latter part will be somewhat strenuous.  The cost is
$15.00 for three hours, music is recorded (unless there's a musician
around with a yen to come play quadrilles for three hours), and more
details can be found at:

http://www.elegantarts.org/nextclass.html

These workshops tend to be teeny-tiny, and there is certainly no limit
on numbers, but we do appreciate RSVP's; information is on that
webpage.  If you'd like to be on my mailing list for these workshops
(which range from 17th century to early 20th century), email me
directly.  I forget to post them here at least half the time.

Susan

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Someone wrote:

>...  few people dance at once while others watch or socialize.
>(...) no one uses their real name at an SCA event (...) Demanding real 
>names would be extraordinarily rude.

What a strange way of socializing !

That's the way that non-dancers do things here in France. Always annoys me.

Anonymous,
in Grenoble, France.

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Anonymous(-AT-
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> >...  few people dance at once while others watch or socialize.
> >(...) no one uses their real name at an SCA event (...) Demanding real
> >names would be extraordinarily rude.

and wrote:

> What a strange way of socializing !

> That's the way that non-dancers do things here in France. Always annoys me.

So the non-dancers in France invent people who could have lived in the
historical period they're interested in, go by the names of those characters,
and try to act according to the manners of those characters  when participating
in events set in that historical period? (And some of them go by those names in
quotidian life as well?)

I can see where that would get up your nose.

But they're doing it to amuse and entertain themselves, not to annoy you.  Try
not to take it personally.

-- Alan

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OK, Alan, I've got the message.

Never really got into historical reconstruction etc, myself, so I didn't 
think of that side of things (I'm just a dancer).
Could be fun !

Martin (coming out of hiding again).

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> For those in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia or travelling thereto:
>
> With the lively dance band Blackberry Jam.
> Australian, Scottish, Irish and English traditional dances will be 
> called.
> Saturday 22 June 2002, Preston Town Hall, cnr Gower & High Sts, 8pm - 
> 12.30am
> Sandwiches, tea & coffee provided. BYO drinks & glass.
> Please bring a plate to share for supper.
> Costume encouraged.
> $17 by Wed 12 June, $22 at the door.
> Enquiries: Robin - BH: 0413 209 334; AH: (03) 9723 2453
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Alan,
Have you ever considered a career in the diplomatic service?  I think
the Middle East could benefit by your help right now.
B.

--- Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing <winston-AT-
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wrote: 
> So the non-dancers in France invent people who could have lived in
> the
> historical period they're interested in, go by the names of those
> characters,
> and try to act according to the manners of those characters  when
> participating
> in events set in that historical period? (And some of them go by
> those names in
> quotidian life as well?)
> 
> I can see where that would get up your nose.
> 
> But they're doing it to amuse and entertain themselves, not to
> annoy you.  Try
> not to take it personally.
> 
> -- Alan


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Oops.
The last was meant to be private of course.


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Hey, Barbara...

Shouldn't that be "maladroit" ???

I have never heard "unadroit" before... 
Is it one of those Ameriadapted words?

All good wishes from Susan
(not wanting to appear gauche...)
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Susan Murrow wrote:
>
> I have never heard "unadroit" before...
> Is it one of those Ameriadapted words?

or maybe it's misspelled French dance directions, as in

un à droit
deux à droit
trois à droit
....

;-)
Deb
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--- Deb Karl <debkarl-AT-
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> Susan Murrow wrote:
> >
> > I have never heard "unadroit" before...
> > Is it one of those Ameriadapted words?
> 
> or maybe it's misspelled French dance directions, as in
> 
> un à droit

Actually it should have been un à droid.

I thought I was sending to the French Star Wars discussion list.
B.

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A Vivisimo search on unadroit got 18 hits.
Alta Vista got 3.
Google found 13.
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Susan-the-generalist (a welcome voice in this age of specialization) said

>  The second part will
>actually take a look at the early 19th-century steps and apply them to
>the first figure and possibly the dance "La Boulangere" as well, time
>permitting. 

"La Boulangere"?  Really?  Any idea how there came to be a dance with such a 
name?

I'm asking only, you understand, on a knead-to-know basis.

Nilos, boulangere grise
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--- Tideswell-AT-
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> "La Boulangere"?  Really?  Any idea how there came to be a dance
> with such a 
> name?
> 
> I'm asking only, you understand, on a knead-to-know basis.
> 
> Nilos, boulangere grise


Oh no. Nilos is on a roll.

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> --- Tideswell-AT-
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> > "La Boulangere"?  Really?  Any idea how there came to be a dance
> > with such a
> > name?
> >
> > I'm asking only, you understand, on a knead-to-know basis.
> >
> > Nilos, boulangere grise

> Oh no. Nilos is on a roll.

Ah, crumbs.

-- Alan

PS: Getting back to the Georgian period, at least, is there any truth to the
story that the "cake" referred to in Marie Antoinette's "Let them eat cake" was
actually the stuff caked on the walls of the oven?  And can anyone recommend a
good biography of Marie Antoinette?  Stefan Zweig is quite readable, but he's
obviously fallen in love with her, which makes his objectivity a bit suspect. 

(And did Marie's court, while playing at being shepherds and shepherdesses,
dance country dances?)

-- APW


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Dear Punsters --

Jane Austen rises once again.  The Boulangere is the only dance Miss Austen 
mentions by name in any of her novels.  It's in _Pride and Prejudice_ when 
Mrs. Bennet bustles in to tell her husband about the local dance and how the 
eldest daughter Jane has caught the eye of Mr. Bingley (you know, the single 
guy in possession of a fortune who therefore must want a wife).  In giving 
the rundown of the evening Mrs. Bennet lists the Boulangere.  Perhaps it was 
worth mentioning by name because it appears to have some kind of big circle 
formation and traveling couple figures, which would differ from the usual 
longways.  Perhaps Susan's workshop will provide more illumination.

Beverly Francis

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On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote:
> PS: Getting back to the Georgian period, at least, is there any truth to the
> story that the "cake" referred to in Marie Antoinette's "Let them eat cake" was
> actually the stuff caked on the walls of the oven?  And can anyone recommend a

 I wouldn't know, but I read in Ripley's Believe-it-or-not that she
actually said "brioches".

  Also, the line is from Rousseau's CONFESSIONS, where it is attributed
simply to "a great princess", in a passage probably written before the
young Archduchess even went to France. See Boller & George, THEY NEVER
SAID IT: A BOOK OF FAKE QUOTES, MISQUOTES, AND MISLEADING ATTRIBUTIONS.


   Perhaps I need to point out that Emerson did not say "Consistency is
the hobgoblin of little minds"; Holmes did not say "Boston is the hub of
the universe"; and the Bible does not say "Money is the root of all evil"?

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Will Linden wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote:
>   Also, the line is from Rousseau's CONFESSIONS, where it is attributed
> simply to "a great princess", in a passage probably written before the
> young Archduchess even went to France. See Boller & George, THEY NEVER
> SAID IT: A BOOK OF FAKE QUOTES, MISQUOTES, AND MISLEADING ATTRIBUTIONS.

Moreover, according to someone named John Wexler:

"French law obliged bakers to sell certain standard varieties of loaf at
fixed weights and prices.  (It still does, which explains why the most
expensive patisserie will sell you a baguette for the same price as a
supermarket.)  At the time when this quotation originated, the law also
obliged the baker to sell a fancier loaf for the price of the cheap one
when the cheap ones were all gone.  This was to forestall the obvious trick
of baking just a few standard loaves, so that one could make more profit by
using the rest of the flour for price-unregulated loaves.  So whoever it
was who said 'Qu'ils mangent de la brioche,' she (or he) was not being
wholly flippant.  The idea was that the bread shortage could be alleviated
if the law was enforced against profiteering bakers."

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<<"La Boulangere"?  Really?  Any idea how there came to be a dance with such
a
name?>>

I have some ideas, but they're all pretty half-baked.

Peace,
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Tideswell-AT-
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> "La Boulangere"?  Really?  Any idea how there came to be a dance with such a
> name?
> 
> I'm asking only, you understand, on a knead-to-know basis.
> 
> Nilos, boulangere grise

Don't you start, now.

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Does La Boulangere contain a dough-si-dough?

Michael Barraclough
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> 
> 
> Tideswell-AT-
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> > "La Boulangere"?  Really?  Any idea how there came to be a dance with such a
> > name?
> > 
> > I'm asking only, you understand, on a knead-to-know basis.
> > 
> > Nilos, boulangere grise
> 
> Don't you start, now.
> 
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> 


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In a message dated 6/8/02 7:00:26 AM, 
Various remarks were made...

Barbara:
>> Oh no. Nilos is on a roll.

Alan:
>Ah, crumbs.

Paul:
>I have some ideas, but they're all pretty half-baked.

How lovely to see your wit bursting into flour....but I guess it's the yeast 
you can do.

And thank you to the ever-informative Beverly Francis for providing some 
(gasp) actual information

Nilos
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No dough si dough, just a bake-to-bake

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In a message dated 6/7/02 7:00:14 PM, winston-AT-
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<< > Oh no. Nilos is on a roll.

Ah, crumbs.
 >>

You guys are giving me a Bon Pain in the.........

Judy G
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Alan (and others):
As it happens, there is a "bran-new" biography of MA by the very capable
Antonia Fraser. I have not read it in full--simply looked lustfully at it
in the bookstores--but it looks *very* promising indeed.

G

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--- Will Linden <wlinden-AT-
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> See Boller & George, THEY
> NEVER
> SAID IT: A BOOK OF FAKE QUOTES, MISQUOTES, AND MISLEADING
> ATTRIBUTIONS.
> 
>    Perhaps I need to point out that Emerson did not say
> "Consistency is
> the hobgoblin of little minds"; Holmes did not say "Boston is the
> hub of
> the universe"; and the Bible does not say "Money is the root of all
> evil"?

And Bogey never said "Play it again, Sam," (at least not on-screen).

B.



> 
> Will Linden  wlinden-AT-
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--- Tideswell-AT-
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> 
> In a message dated 6/8/02 7:00:26 AM, 
> Various remarks were made...
> 
> Barbara:
> >> Oh no. Nilos is on a roll.
> 
> Alan:
> >Ah, crumbs.
> 
> Paul:
> >I have some ideas, but they're all pretty half-baked.
>
Michael:
>> Does it contain a dough-si-dough?

 
> How lovely to see your wit bursting into flour....but I guess it's
> the yeast 
> you can do.
> Nilos



It's all those "croissant and casts" that give some of us our "full
figures of eight."

But of couse you can't dance it unless you're wearing the proper
choux.

Barbara


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On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Barbara Ruth
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> 
> --- Will Linden <wlinden-AT-
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> > See Boller & George, THEY
> > NEVER
> > SAID IT: A BOOK OF FAKE QUOTES, MISQUOTES, AND MISLEADING
> > ATTRIBUTIONS.
> > 
> >    Perhaps I need to point out that Emerson did not say
> > "Consistency is
> > the hobgoblin of little minds"; Holmes did not say "Boston is the
> > hub of
> > the universe"; and the Bible does not say "Money is the root of 
> all
> > evil"?
> 
> And Bogey never said "Play it again, Sam," (at least not on-screen).

Nor did Sherlock Holmes ever say, "Elementary, my dear Watson" in any of
the original stories written about him (although Basil Rathbone, who
played him in numerous movies, did).

Dawn Culbertson


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> And Bogey never said "Play it again, Sam," (at least not on-screen).
> 
> 
Which makes me wonder if that renders my splendid Golden's pedigree invalid.  
Or ersatz.  Her sire is AKC-registered as:  "Harmonie Play it Again, Sam"

Stretching (really hard) for some ECD content. . . My canine delight came to 
me (really!!!) by way of dancing and playing early music, including ECD, 
(recorder/viol) with a friend whose all-things-lovely "O'Lugh's Zena Winds"  
(the wonder dog) accompanied us, admired us, all the while endearing herself 
to us, during our daily playing sessions.  And kindly consented, 
subsequently, to produce an offspring for me.

I now take said offspring, Callie (Gr=the most beautiful), to the pond and 
often play ECD music while she swims.  And swims and swims.  And swims some 
more. . .I guess our Callie is: Harmonie/Winds/Most Beautiful.   Most 
propitious for this player-of-winds.

And we do know of a Golden Retriever named Heart's Ease, which also happens 
to be the name I gave to one of the bands in which I play.

Anyone else incorporate ECD names/notions into other venues in your lives? 
Any other Canine/ECD connections?

Cheer,

Deborah



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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 6/10/2002 12:48:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, barbararuth-AT-
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">And Bogey never said "Play it again, Sam," (at least not on-screen).<BR>
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</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
Which makes me wonder if that renders my splendid Golden's pedigree invalid.&nbsp; Or ersatz.&nbsp; Her sire is AKC-registered as:&nbsp; "Harmonie Play it Again, Sam"<BR>
<BR>
Stretching (really hard) for some ECD content. . . My canine delight came to me (really!!!) by way of dancing and playing early music, including ECD, (recorder/viol) with a friend whose all-things-lovely "O'Lugh's Zena Winds"&nbsp; (the wonder dog) accompanied us, admired us, all the while endearing herself to us, during our daily playing sessions.&nbsp; And kindly consented, subsequently, to produce an offspring for me.<BR>
<BR>
I now take said offspring, Callie (Gr=the most beautiful), to the pond and often play ECD music while she swims.&nbsp; And swims and swims.&nbsp; And swims some more. . .I guess our Callie is: Harmonie/Winds/Most Beautiful.&nbsp;&nbsp; Most propitious for this player-of-winds.<BR>
<BR>
And we do know of a Golden Retriever named Heart's Ease, which also happens to be the name I gave to one of the bands in which I play.<BR>
<BR>
Anyone else incorporate ECD names/notions into other venues in your lives? Any other Canine/ECD connections?<BR>
<BR>
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--- "Dawn C. Culbertson" <dcculb-AT-
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> Nor did Sherlock Holmes ever say, "Elementary, my dear Watson" in
> any of the original stories written about him (although Basil
> Rathbone, who played him in numerous movies, did).

But, it was Connecticut's William Gillette (ecentric owner of
Gillette Castle along the lower reaches of the Connecticut River) who
is credited with defining the role of Sherlock Holmes on stage, long
before Basil Rathbone came along.

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--- Andy Peterson <lyrlsbro-AT-
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> --- "Dawn C. Culbertson" <dcculb-AT-
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> > Nor did Sherlock Holmes ever say, "Elementary, my dear Watson" in
> > any of the original stories written about him (although Basil
> > Rathbone, who played him in numerous movies, did).
> 
> But, it was Connecticut's William Gillette (ecentric owner of
> Gillette Castle along the lower reaches of the Connecticut River)
> who
> is credited with defining the role of Sherlock Holmes on stage,
> long
> before Basil Rathbone came along.

Not to mention being known for his razor-sharp wit.
But, how cutting to poor Basil.

B.

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At 01:07 PM 6/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:


>On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Barbara Ruth
><barbararuth-AT-
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> >
> > --- Will Linden <wlinden-AT-
panix.com> wrote:
> > > See Boller & George, THEY
> > > NEVER
> > > SAID IT: A BOOK OF FAKE QUOTES, MISQUOTES, AND MISLEADING
> > > ATTRIBUTIONS.
> > >
> > >    Perhaps I need to point out that Emerson did not say
> > > "Consistency is
> > > the hobgoblin of little minds"; Holmes did not say "Boston is the
> > > hub of
> > > the universe"; and the Bible does not say "Money is the root of
> > all
> > > evil"?
> >
> > And Bogey never said "Play it again, Sam," (at least not on-screen).
>
>Nor did Sherlock Holmes ever say, "Elementary, my dear Watson" in any of
>the original stories written about him (although Basil Rathbone, who
>played him in numerous movies, did).
>
>Dawn Culbertson

...and the dormouse never said "Feed your head" in Alice's Adventures in 
Wonderland, though The Jefferson Airplane thought it did.

Robin Cohen
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No Playford-named dog tales to relate, but some dancing friends have a cat
named "Rufty-Tufty".

Anyone have a kitty named "Poussette"?

Susan Booker in Lexington, KY,
whose furry feline friend is Shadow, as in
"I have a little Shadow who goes in and out with me,
And what can be the use of him, is more than I can see...." - RLS, _A
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Susan Booker wrote:

> No Playford-named dog tales to relate, but some dancing friends have a cat
> named "Rufty-Tufty".

My dancing friends with the Maine Coon they wanted to call Rufty-Tufty they 
ended up calling "BC" (for "Boy Cat", the temporary name given by the vet who
matched up the cat and the people).  "Rufty-Tufty" just doesn't holler as well
as "BC".

> Anyone have a kitty named "Poussette"?

> Susan Booker in Lexington, KY,
> whose furry feline friend is Shadow, as in
> "I have a little Shadow who goes in and out with me,
> And what can be the use of him, is more than I can see...." - RLS, _A
> Child's Garden of Verses_

Now "Shadow" would be on-topic if we were discussing contra dances.  (Do you
prefer "shadow" or "trail buddy"?)

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...And then there were my great aunt Garland and my great uncle Capers.
Really. Opposite sides of the family, not siblings...

Susan Booker, in Lexington, KY



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--- Susan Booker asked:
Anyone have a kitty named "Poussette"?
--- end of quote ---

Sort of, when we're feeling whimsical. Pooh's larger brother is Robin, sometimes
referred to as Mad Robin. And then there's the stray cat who adoped us. He's
Maurice, promounced Morris, but that's no ECD content in the derivation of that
name so we won't go there.

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Earl and I had a tortie for a couple years which we named Aily.  She 
turned out to be a dud, as cats go.  Very self-centered and not 
trainable, even though we got her at the shelter out of the trunk of 
the car she arrived in.

Didn't particularly like to be in high places, either.
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SUSAN B BOOKER wrote:
> 
> No Playford-named dog tales to relate, but some dancing friends have a cat
> named "Rufty-Tufty".
> 
> Anyone have a kitty named "Poussette"?

No, but there was a big pile of what the poussette on the carpet this
morning.  I almost stepped in it.  Why we keep these nasty little
carnivores around the house, I'll never understand.

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Mike Stimson, longtime secretary of CDSS, had two cats, Foot Up and Gypsy.
All my dogs were, serially, named Joseph (Yupp, Zepp, Joss). Now there's
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> Earl and I had a tortie for a couple years which we named Aily.  She 
> turned out to be a dud, as cats go.  Very self-centered and not 
> trainable, even though we got her at the shelter out of the trunk of 
> the car she arrived in.
> 
> Didn't particularly like to be in high places, either.
> 

So that's [thumbs] down with Aily. - d

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>No Playford-named dog tales to relate, but some dancing friends have a cat
>named "Rufty-Tufty".
>
>Anyone have a kitty named "Poussette"?

No, but our Beetlecat (small sailboat) is named "Poussette"...
Peter & Peggy Vermilya


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--- "Hanny D. Budnick" <74031.77-AT-
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> Mike Stimson, longtime secretary of CDSS, had two cats, Foot Up and
> Gypsy. All my dogs were, serially, named Joseph (Yupp, Zepp, Joss).
> Now there's just the occasional housefly, always named Hubert.

I seem to remember someone years ago having cats named Oranges and
Lemons. Lyrl had a cat that was named Petronella. My ex-wife and I
had a cat we named Abbots Bromley, commonly known as Abbey. She was a
somewhat mysterious cat, so wore the name well.

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Michael Caine denies ever having said "Not a lot o' people know that": 
neither does the Bible refer to "gilding the lily", as so many quote; nor was 
the Curate's egg "good in parts" - sigh:-)
    However, it is true to say that the programme for our Ball in Scotland on 
June 29th (still a few tickets left!) may now be found on my web site at
    <A HREF="http://">www.nicolasbroadbridge.com</A>

    And on the subject of names, I do not know of a cat by the name of 
'poussette', but Antony Heywood's dance 'An Enchanted Place' has a move 
called a 'Poohsette', deriving from the dance's inspiration in the works of 
A. A. Milne.
Nicolas B., Lanark, Scotland.   
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 SallenNic-AT-
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> Michael Caine denies ever having said "Not a lot o' people know that":
> neither does the Bible refer to "gilding the lily", as so many quote; nor was
> the Curate's egg "good in parts" - sigh:-)

 And, in THE BLACK SHIELD OF FALWORTH, Tony Curtis did NOT say "Yonda is
da castle of my fadda."

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> neither does the Bible refer to "gilding the lily", as so many quote; nor was

 Neither does Shakespeare, as so many quote. (The passage from KING JOHN
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Not exactly ECD, but this was sent out to the Seattlecontra list last
week. Some members of this list will find it of interest.

National Endowment For The Arts Announces
2002 National Heritage Fellowship Recipients 

<http://www.nea.gov/endownews/news02/Heritage2002.html>

Andy in Portland

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Hi all,
aside from Nonesuch and Dargason, which could be danced with more couples
comma IF the strains were played the appropriate number of more
repetitions, can you think of more Playford dances classified as longways
for four couples?

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"Hanny D. Budnick" wrote:

> Hi all,
> aside from Nonesuch and Dargason, which could be danced with more couples
> comma IF the strains were played the appropriate number of more
> repetitions, can you think of more Playford dances classified as longways
> for four couples?
>
>   _-AT-
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>

Broom, Merry Merry Milkmaids, Phoenix spring to mind.

The Tom Cook version of Jamaica (cheating, I know),  Mr Heath's Dance, t
he London Gentlewoman  are 4 couple longways, though not Cecil Sharp

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Hanny,
I'm not sure from your question what you seek - is it dances that are
published in Playford as longways for 4 couples that are easily adaptable
to as many as will?
Daphne or The Shepherdess
Another prospect might be
Blew Breeches,or I'le Love no more
which is billed as a longways but the instructions seem to imply 4 couple
longways.
I teach both of these as either 4 couple dances or as many as will,
depending on the number of dancers present who wish to dance. (It is also
fun to extend traditionally 3 couple dances such as Scotch Cap to
accomodate 4 or 5 couples).
Cammy

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Hanny D. Budnick writes:
> 
> aside from Nonesuch and Dargason, which could be danced with more couples
> comma IF the strains were played the appropriate number of more
> repetitions, can you think of more Playford dances classified as longways
> for four couples?

   We've recently been doing a nice version of Lull Me Beyond Thee.

Jonathan

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Here goes, Longways for 4 couples dances in 1st edn:

Spanish Gypsey
Lady Spellor
Chirping of the LArk
Nonsuch
Daphne
Merry Merry Milkmaids
The Spaniard
Lord of Carnarvons Jig
The Health
Prince Ruperts March
Ay Me or The Symphony
Milkmaids Bob
Cheerilly and Merrily
Lull Me Beyond Thee
Grays Inn Mask

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> Hi all,
> aside from Nonesuch and Dargason, which could be danced with more couples
> comma IF the strains were played the appropriate number of more
> repetitions, can you think of more Playford dances classified as longways
> for four couples?
> 
>   _-AT-
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> '  \      /_\
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> 
>  
> 
> 


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Hi Cammy,
I agree with you on 'extending' - IF you have the luxury of adaptable
musicians! 
I am looking at the mode of progression, if any, in dances specified for
four couples.
It is my contention that in THREE couple longways the dance really has a
smoother flow if the last active couple does NOT progress to the bottom, if
that progression happens at the end of the sequence. Are there any
exceptions?
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Thanks, Andy, it's thrilling to see Bob McQuillan's name on this year's list 
under contra dance musician/composer (Peterborough, N.H.), as well as Jean 
Ritchie's as Appalachian musician/songwriter (Port Washington, N.Y. & Viper, 
Ky.).

Will we ever see someone from the English Dance community honored this way? 
I truly think that someone like Fried Herman deserves similar recognition as 
a national treasure, but the definition of the traditional arts that the 
Endowment uses is a major and possibly insurmountable hurdle.

"The folk and traditional arts are those that are learned as part of the 
cultural life of a community whose members share a common ethnic heritage, 
language, religion, occupation, or geographic region. These traditions are 
shaped by the aesthetics and values of a shared culture and are passed from 
generation to generation, most often within family and community through 
observation, conversation, and practice."




>From: Andy Peterson <lyrlsbro-AT-
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>Reply-To: ECD-AT-
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>Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:17:16 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Not exactly ECD, but this was sent out to the Seattlecontra list last
>week. Some members of this list will find it of interest.
>
>National Endowment For The Arts Announces
>2002 National Heritage Fellowship Recipients
>
><http://www.nea.gov/endownews/news02/Heritage2002.html>
>
>Andy in Portland
>
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> Anyone have a kitty named "Poussette"?

> Susan Booker in Lexington, KY,

Oh goodie, my favorite topic (next to ECD of course).
 
No 'Poussette' that I can recall, although I'll be sure to bestow that
name on some unsuspecting fur-face in the near future!  I do have a
'Peter' who insists he's named after Peter Barnes since he loves music
and used to play the piano while seated on the bench!  I've
kitty-patients named 'Pousaka', Bach, Mozart, and Handel.  And then, of
course, there was the cat named "Cow" - don't ask. 

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At 3:20 PM -0400 6/12/02, catdancer-AT-
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>Oh goodie, my favorite topic (next to ECD of course).
>
>No 'Poussette' that I can recall, although I'll be sure to bestow 
>that name on some unsuspecting fur-face in the near future!  I do 
>have a 'Peter' who insists he's named after Peter Barnes since he 
>loves music and used to play the piano while seated on the bench! 
>I've kitty-patients named 'Pousaka', Bach, Mozart, and Handel.  And 
>then, of course, there was the cat named "Cow" - don't ask.
>
>Helen Tuzio
>New York
>"The cat was created when the lion sneezed."  Arab Myth


Damn.  Some day I've just got to join a cat list!

Oh well, one last contribution - no ECD content, sorry.

My tomcat's name is Bastie, which is short for the name that Bach's 
family called him (Sebastian), and also a shortened version of the 
masculine form that Mozart used in a Singspiel "Bastien et Bastienne".

I won't get in to beetlecat boat names.  But the same rubric applies there.
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"Spring Garden" from the third edition, 1665 is quite nice.

cs



"Hanny D. Budnick" wrote:

> Hi all,
> aside from Nonesuch and Dargason, which could be danced with more couples
> comma IF the strains were played the appropriate number of more
> repetitions, can you think of more Playford dances classified as longways
> for four couples?
>
>   _-AT-
_      {)/'
>  /\ /\_._,<_/
> '  \      /_\
>    />    /<  Hanny
>
>

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> And then, of
> course, there was the cat named "Cow" - don't ask.
> 
> Helen Tuzio

Wierd.  My dad had a cat named Cow.  Great big orange fuzzy
guy (the cat, not my dad).

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> And then, of
> course, there was the cat named "Cow" - don't ask.
> 
> Helen Tuzio

Wierd.  My dad had a cat named Cow.  Great big orange fuzzy
guy (the cat, not my dad).

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Catdancer Helen said,

>Oh goodie, my favorite topic (next to ECD of course).

Yeah, mine, too.  Funny how these silly animals bring us out of lurking...
my cats have non-dancer names, but my business name is Capercat Antiques,
thus combining those topics!   At least one of my cats does excellent
capers, too (hmm, maybe this belongs on the morris list).

Alisa


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> !   At least one of my cats does excellent
> capers, too (hmm, maybe this belongs on the morris list).
> 

It just occurred to me that the joyful crazy leaps that [my] bunnies do are 
not "binkies" as rabbit-lovers have dubbed them, but rather "capers".  I'll 
have to let them know.  I should have known that any mammal that will 
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ECD-attuned.

Cheer,
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Slips my mind as to what is the "maggot" of Mr. Isaac's Maggot.  Someone 
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Deborah wrote:

> Slips my mind as to what is the "maggot" of Mr. Isaac's Maggot.  Someone
> recently asked me.

A whim, fancy, or notion.  (So "Jack's Maggot", "Drapers' Maggot", etc.)
It's possible to imagine an entomological etymology involving worms in the
brain giving you weird ideas.

-- Alan

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> A whim, fancy, or notion.  (So "Jack's Maggot", "Drapers' Maggot", etc.)
> It's possible to imagine an entomological etymology involving worms in the
> brain giving you weird ideas

Actually, eliminating words and notions. . . Or at least, radically 
rearranging things.  Hope they are merely miss-placed.  Must be all these 
cyber-worms leaping off the 
page. . .composting material in the brain. . .

Ugh! --- Getting too visceral here.  Breakfast, anyone?

Cheer,
Deborah

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Maggot is the term given to melodies that imbed themselves in our ears and
minds, coursing there forever - like earworms. Other languages use the same
image...

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> Maggot is the term given to melodies that imbed themselves in our ears and
> minds, coursing there forever

uh oh!!! Danger Ahead!

I sure hope this is not going to trigger another go-round of everyone
sharing their worst-cases of these tunes.

Thank you in advance for not sharing, everyone.  :)

Joyce 

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>"Spring Garden" from the third edition, 1665 is quite nice.
>
>cs
>
One of my favorite under-done dances.  A new four couple dance, Beach 
Spring, by Leslie Lassetter  is also quite nice.
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--- Alisa Dodson <alisa-AT-
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> Funny how these silly animals bring us out of lurking...


--- Dfhart24-AT-
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> Slips my mind as to what is the "maggot" of Mr. Isaac's Maggot. 
> Someone recently asked me.


Not everyone's idea of a house-pet to be sure, but still, another
instance of ECD-related animalia.

B.


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A little worm in the brain - an idea

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Joyce opined 

>> Maggot is the term given to melodies that imbed themselves in our ears
>and
>> minds, coursing there forever
>
>uh oh!!! Danger Ahead!
>
>I sure hope this is not going to trigger another go-round of everyone
>sharing their worst-cases of these tunes.
>
>Thank you in advance for not sharing, everyone.  :)
>
>Joyce 

Oh, I don't know, Joyce.  There must be some way to satisfy the curious such 
as myself, without subjecting you to a flood of I-am-never-forget-the-day...

Nilos
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Try Merry Merry Milkmaids for 6 couples.
 Francis2
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> Hi all,
> aside from Nonesuch and Dargason, which could be danced with more couples
> comma IF the strains were played the appropriate number of more
> repetitions, can you think of more Playford dances classified as longways
> for four couples?
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In message <01KIVC6KV1M08Y6XEY-AT-
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tral Computing wrote:
|Deborah wrote:
|
|> Slips my mind as to what is the "maggot" of Mr. Isaac's Maggot.  Someone
|> recently asked me.
|
|A whim, fancy, or notion.  (So "Jack's Maggot", "Drapers' Maggot", etc.)
|It's possible to imagine an entomological etymology involving worms in the
|brain giving you weird ideas.
|
|-- Alan

Ah, Alan, I bet you were just waiting for that question so that you could
put those two words together. ;-)
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-- Kalia Kliban <kalia-AT-
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> > And then, of
> > course, there was the cat named "Cow" - don't ask.
> > 
> > Helen Tuzio
> 
> Wierd.  My dad had a cat named Cow.  Great big orange fuzzy
> guy (the cat, not my dad).

Lyrl had a cat named Buttercup, that our dad always said looked like
a Holstein. (Black and white like the Gateway mascot, for you
non-farmers.)

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francis2 wrote:
 
> Try Merry Merry Milkmaids for 6 couples.

We did this one tonight.  Did you mean to say 4 couples or do you dance
a 6 couple version?

--Charlene

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Kalia Kliban wrote:

 >Wierd.  My dad had a cat named Cow.  Great big orange fuzzy
 >guy (the cat, not my dad).

One can't help but wonder: Kalia, is your father (or any other
relative) the B. Kliban who published all those wonderful cat
cartoons a generation ago?

"Love to eat them mousies...."

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Hi Charlene. No. we dance it with 6 couples! The standard music length only
allows for one whole hey, not 1 each for men and ladies.  So we dance the
heys simultaneosly, the end people have to do a big turn single at the end
to fill in while the others are finishing the hey. but otherwise it all fits
nicely, the other movements are for two couples each anyway. Tyr it regards
francis.
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> francis2 wrote:
>
> > Try Merry Merry Milkmaids for 6 couples.
>
> We did this one tonight.  Did you mean to say 4 couples or do you dance
> a 6 couple version?
>
> --Charlene
>
> --
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> Lyrl had a cat named Buttercup, that our dad always said
> looked like a Holstein....

Actually, she was Andrew's cat and the term Holstein
originated with me, as in, "There's a stray at the daycare
center. Does anybody want a Holsein cat?"

L.

PS -- but it doesn't matter on the list....

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I don't know if the list is a good place to introduce this to a wider
community, but I'll give it a shot - I'm sure some of you will have fun
with it:.
Cammy

From the '70s, a dance that I keep modifying because I don't really like
B5, and a little on the complicated side, terrific tune
Dance: London Broil (name given by the dancers who couldn't remember the
name accurately when they asked to do it again a week later)
Tune: London Pride (Longborough tune - ECD pace=faster than for morris -
the tune in ABC format is at the bottom)
4 couple longways

Dance:
A1+2  Up a Double and back twice
B1 1st and 3rd couples cast down one place (others move up), 2-hand turn
half to the other side; 2nd and 4th couples half figure 8 down through
B2 2nd and 4th couples cast down one place (others move up), 2-hand turn
half to the other side; 1st and 3rd couples half figure 8 down through

A3+4 Siding (I teach Rshldr to Rshldr then turn away from pt back to place
followed by left)
B3 1st corners (M1+W2 and M3+W4) pass left shoulders to cross, turn left to
face up and down the lines, pass left shoulder along the line, face across
and 2 changes of the circular hey starting by passing left shoulder then
right
B4 2nd corners (other people, same diagonal)pass left shoulders to cross,
turn left to face up and down the lines, pass left shoulder along the line,
face across and set and turn single to partner

A5+6 Arming
B5 2s and 3s half poussette (go extra far on the return so that the 2s are
in gents line and 3s are on the ladies side) all 2 hand turn partner and
end facing in in square formation
B6 All in a double, 1s and 4s circle 3/4 while 2s and 3s back out and face
up, Gent #1 break with Lady 4  to open the circle to a line between 2s and
3s (G1 join hand with L2 while L4 joins with G3, all 8 in line honor to the
Presence


Tune:
X:62
T:London Pride
T:Morris tune from Longborough Tradition
C:(62)
M:4/4
L:1/4
Q:2/4=100
K:Dm
A> =B c A | G/F/ E/D/ C C | D A A/G/ F/E/ | D2 D2 ::  A> =B c A | d/c/
=B/A/ G G |
A A/=B/ c A | d2 A2 | A> =B c A | G/F/ E/D/ C C | D A A/G/ F/E/ | D2 D2 :|


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I don't know if any musicians on this list are planning to go to
Fiddle Tunes, but Phil Katz sent this to the Seattlecontra list and
people might be interested in knowing about it.

Andy in Portland

> Please pass this on, to any out-of-town musicians
> you know, arriving for Fiddle Tunes Festival; we hope
> they (and you too) can join us the night before.
>
> SEATTLE AREA PRE-FIDDLE-TUNES DANCE - Please join us Saturday June
> 29 if you are arriving for Fiddle Tunes Festival 6/30-7/7 at Port
> Townsend, WA.  Contra Dance with Laura Me' Smith calling. Hot
fiddle 
> and box tunes from Small Pleasures - Vivian Williams, Phil Williams

> and Phil Katz, with special guest musicians including (if airline 
> connections succeed) Western Mass. fiddler David Kaynor who will be
> faculty at Fiddle Tunes.  All in a classic old dance hall, 
> the Aqua Barn. Out Maple Valley Hwy (rte 169) exactly 3 miles 
> east of I405 (Exit 4) at 152nd. Specific directions: 206 722 8228
or 
> http://seattledance.org/contra/aquabarn.directions.html. 
> 7:30 newcomers' session, 8-11 pm dance, $7 at the door. 
> Please wear no scented products. If you think you'll need
> help finding a Saturday night stayover, pls contact 206 722 8228
> or philkatz-AT-
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If you happen to be nearby, or vacationing on lovely Cape Cod, 
Massachusetts, our special English Country Dances might provide a 
pleasant addition to your summer plans.  We expect to have lively 
good fun, with excellent music and a pleasant mix of old and new 
dances.

This Friday:

Cape Cod English Country Dance
Friday, June 21
8 - 11 pm at the East Sandwich Grange,
                   85 Old County Road, E Sandwich

Musicians: Jan Elliott [recorder and concertina],
                   J.M. "Shag" Graetz [piano],
                   Edie Leicester [flute]

Dance Leaders: Priscilla Adams and Linda Nelson
Admission: $6

As always, all are welcome and all dances will be taught.
More info and driving directions: reply email,
                   or 508-428-4231 or 508-540-1151


We will also have a dance on Friday, July 19, with music by Jan 
Elliott and Friends.

Watch for dances on 3rd Fridays starting this autumn.

Happy dancing! - Linda
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Dunno why I'm relaying this on to you, but it does bring back a trip to the
mid-cape and a night over with that elderly couple whose name escapes me
now. Bird people. Different place, only Priscilla is the constant.
(just my way of saying you are constanly on my mind, I guess)

LU48,
PTV
(TH)
[now listening to the Gary Roodman dances tunes cd]

>If you happen to be nearby, or vacationing on lovely Cape Cod,
>Massachusetts, our special English Country Dances might provide a
>pleasant addition to your summer plans.  We expect to have lively
>good fun, with excellent music and a pleasant mix of old and new
>dances.
>
>This Friday:
>
>Cape Cod English Country Dance
>Friday, June 21
>8 - 11 pm at the East Sandwich Grange,
>                   85 Old County Road, E Sandwich
>
>Musicians: Jan Elliott [recorder and concertina],
>                   J.M. "Shag" Graetz [piano],
>                   Edie Leicester [flute]
>
>Dance Leaders: Priscilla Adams and Linda Nelson
>Admission: $6
>
>As always, all are welcome and all dances will be taught.
>More info and driving directions: reply email,
>                   or 508-428-4231 or 508-540-1151
>
>
>We will also have a dance on Friday, July 19, with music by Jan
>Elliott and Friends.
>
>Watch for dances on 3rd Fridays starting this autumn.
>
>Happy dancing! - Linda



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Dear Friends,
  I'm happy to announce that Colin Hume will be featured in two events 
in Boston next Fall. On September 18, Colin will be teaching the 
Wednesday night class at the Park Avenue Church in Arlington. His 
program will be "One Man's History of English Country Dance", dances 
chosen to illustrate the development of English Country dance.  Then 
on Friday, September 20 at the Concord Scout House Colin will present 
a program of his dances, backed by Peter Barnes, Mary Lea, and Chis 
Rua.

For those of you who have some vacation time left, you can dance in 
Boston Wednesday and Friday with Colin that week, then spend Saturday 
and Sunday dancing in Amherst with Philippe Callens--a nice way to 
spend the last weekend of the Summer and the first weekend of the 
Fall.

If you're within driving distance of Boston, you're invited to our 
end of the year party tonight at the Park Avenue Church in Arlington. 
(For driving directions see our web site http://www.cds-boston.org ) 
Good music, good leading, good dancing and good friends.

Best,
  Terry
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...posted on behalf of Philippe Callens...
"Red Star Line Launching Party

music by Hold The Mustard
dancing led by Philippe Callens

Red Star Line-From Belgium to America is a brand new CD with fifteen
English country dances written and interpreted by Philippe Callens. It
includes favourites such as "The Astonished Acrhaeologist" and "An Early
Frost", plus some of Philippe's other original dances and interpretations.
The music is played by two excellent bands: A Joyful Noise (Daniel
Beerbohm, Barbara Greenberg, Kathy Talvitie) and Hold The Mustard (Daniel,
Barbara, Kathy, and Paul Prestopino).

The band members and Philippe invite you all to come and dance at the Red
Star Line Launching Party, a great chance to learn a number of the dances
on the CD played by the musicians who appear on the CD.  Some dances from
the true and trite category will complement the programme. The party will
be held in Titusville, New Jersey, a location close to Princeton and
Philadelphia, but easy to reach from New York City and Baltimore.

Where? Titusville Firehouse (air conditioned!)
When? Friday 26 July 2002, 8-11 pm
Admission? $ 8.00

This dance is sponsored by the Princeton Country Dancers and the
Lambertville Country Dancers. For further information, please contact
Barbara Greenberg, e-mail <peartree-AT-
earthlink.net> or phone 609-882-5775.
The Red Star Line CD can be ordered from her, too.

Do you have to miss this party? Too bad, but here are some other chances
for you to meet these artists:

* Hold The Mustard will be at CDSS Dance Week, Buffalo Gap, West Virginia,
July 6-13. Check out http://www.cdss.org for availability.
* A Joyful Noise and Philippe Callens will be at CDSS English Week,
Pinewoods, August 10-17 and Philippe will also teach at CDSS
English-American Week, Pinewoods, August 3-10.
* During the Across the Atlantic Dance Weekend 2002, to be held in Western
Massachusetts, September 21-22, Philippe will also present a selection of
his own dances and interpretations. Contact Joyce Crouch for more
information, <joycecrouch-AT-
pobox.com>

Red Star Line-From Belgium to America contains the music for these fifteen
dances:
Arlington Assembly - The Astonished Archaeologist - The Two Pauls -
Patrick's Waltz - Excuse Me - Enfield Common - Gentleman's Delight - Return
to Newcastle - A Trip to Amsterdam - The Delight of Kentish Countryside -
Hortonia - La Gavre - Volpony - Gold for the Mahieus - An Early Frost."
Graham Christian
Technical Writer, Product Management
Telephone number: (617)542-2800, extension 247
Email address:  graham.christian-AT-
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Group web address:  http://www.risk.sungard.com
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3 Post Office Square
Boston, MA  02109

"Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow."




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"Red Star Line" is a _wonderful_ CD--I've been listening to it
(repeatedly) for the past week & with great delight, whenever I'm in my
car.  A great addition to one's collection of ECD music!

(now, if I can just get the directions for the dances on the CD so I can
learn 'em.....)

--Deb
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CDSS distributes *Red Star Line*, as well as the dance books, *Continental
Capers* and *Belgian Boutades* [new; CDSS may not have its copies yet].
Yes, there *are* other shops & sources for these, including the artists
themselves--but CDSS I happen to know about.

Graham Christian
Technical Writer, Product Management
Telephone number: (617)542-2800, extension 247
Email address:  graham.christian-AT-
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Hi folks:

I hope you'll pardon me for tooting a small horn about this, but in the
current issue of Sing Out! (the one with Bruce Cockburn on the cover),
they've published an article/interview I did with Sheila Kay Adams, a member
of the great family of traditional singers from Sodom Laurel, North Carolina
that includes Berzilla, Cas and Doug Wallin, Dillard Chandler, and many
other singers going back to the early 1800s; the article is as much about
that astonishing family (which gave a multitude of songs to Cecil Sharp,
among other folklorists) and their history as it is about Sheila herself.
(If her name rings a bell, she was the musical advisor to the film
"Songcatcher", and most of the songs in that film were performed in her
family's versions.) There are also transcriptions of two songs: Doug
Wallin's version of "Young Emily" (aka "Edwin in the Lowlands Low") and
Sheila's own singing of "Camp A Little While in the Wilderness", and an
almost-complete family discography. (Almost, because Musical Traditions, in
England, reissued two albums of field recordings after the magazine went to
press).

I let folks know, not because I wrote the article (well, maybe a little --
I've been reading Sing Out! since I was nine years old, and it's nice to
finally write something for them) but because these are amazing people with
a rich history and tradition. Characters, too. And damned fine singers.

Peace,
Paul

PS The magazine is available across the USA at Barnes & Noble & most Borders
stores; in St. Louis, look at Music Folk and, maybe, World News in Clayton.
Please, look at the independent outlets first.

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Dear friends:
Thanks to those of you who have written to me expressing interest in the
purchase of *Red Star Line* and Philippe Callens dances. Unfortunately, I
am not the US distributor for these materials. Please communicate directly
with the Country Dance and Song Society to obtain the CD and books.

Graham Christian
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for those in the Boston area, the Folk Arts Center also has the CD in stock.
I don't know about the books; I'll check with Marcie.

But don't call FAC today--Marcie & the FAC record shop are down at
Pinewoods for the next week.

--Deb
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I've been enjoying the new CD, too.  In addition to CDSS, as Graham said
in his first message, you can get the CD from Barbara Greenberg:

> For further information, please contact Barbara Greenberg, e-mail
> <peartree-AT-
earthlink.net> or phone 609-882-5775. The Red Star Line CD can
> be ordered from her, too.

Susie Lorand
Princeton, NJ, USA

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Fellow Dancers:

I am sure there is somebody cleverer than me who
could decipher -- into modern "language" -- the following
page:

Your help would be appreciated.

Maybe there is a decode that can got from the Web?

regards, John

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