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Many thanks to all of those who sent directions for Easter Morn. I'm looking 
forward to trying it later today.

Ken McFarland
farlands-AT-
ptialaska.net

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Here, finally, are the directions for how to bid on Christine Helwig's
wonderful Playford gown, which can be seen at CD*NY's website:
www.cdny.org/christine.html

If you wish to bid on Christine's dress, please do so by Monday, January
21, 2002.  We will accept bids via email and also via U.S. mail postmarked
with that date.  To allow postal deliveries sufficient time to get here, we
will not announce the winning bid until Wednesday, January 30, 2002.  If
all works according to plan, we should be able to get the dress to the
winning bidder by Thursday, February 14th, Valentine's Day.

In your bid, please give us the following information:

Your Opening Bid--How much are you willing to pay for Christine's dress?
Your Final Bid--If someone else outbids you, how much higher would you be
willing to go in order to get the dress?  (This second bid is optional.  We
assume most people will stick with their initial bids, but we wanted this
to feel like a real True Brit auction, with active competitive bidding.)
Your Name
Your Address
Your Phone Number
(All bids are to be in U.S. currency.  Sorry, we have no facilities to
process credit cards.)

Send email bids to:  mls-AT-
panix.com
Send U.S. mail bids to:  Sharon Green, 175 Ninth Avenue, New York NY 10011

Thank you for your interest in this very special gown, and for your
willingness to make a memorable contribution to CD*NY's English Program Fund.




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etepper-AT-
juno.com wrote:
> 
> The mistaking of words that sound similar,  Henri Chez vs Enrichez, and
> Shirley the Cross-eyed bear for Surely the Cross I'd Bear is something
> that happens in English only and is called a "Mondegreen".

Jon Carroll, a well-known San Francisco columnist, is quite the collector
of Mondegreens; here's a link to a collection of his Mondegreen columns:

  http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/carroll/mondegreens.shtml

Possibly the best-know Mondegreen is Jimi Hendrix's "Excuse me while I kiss
this guy" (really "kiss the sky").

-- 
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Ellen:

 >This comes from a mishearing of the Ballad of the Earl of Murray

Mike:

 >I thought it was "The Earl of Moray."

Ellen:

 >Quite right. Thanks for the correction.
 >I guess "That's A Moray" then.

Me:

So it's not "The Eel of Moray?"

                                   :-P

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Hi Jon
The example you quote may be best known in USA, I've never heard it before
in UK. {"...best-know Mondegreen is Jimi Hendrix's "Excuse me while I kiss
this guy" (really "kiss the sky").}

The oldest one I can think of was told to me some 30 years ago by my HOD at
school, in Battersea, London UK:-
Supposedly took place during the 1st World War when telecommunication was in
its infancy, message sent, "Send reinforcements, we're going to advance."
This was interpreted as, "Send three and four-pence, we're going to a
dance!".
Alan Corkett.
Nether Stowey Som. UK.


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Alan said:

The oldest one I can think of was told to me some 30 years ago by my HOD at
school, in Battersea, London UK:-
Supposedly took place during the 1st World War when telecommunication was in
its infancy, message sent, "Send reinforcements, we're going to advance."
This was interpreted as, "Send three and four-pence, we're going to a
dance!".


Followed rapidly by "The enemy is dancing on a wet plank" (advancing on the
left flank)

My favo(u)rite is th ole country song (Kenny Rogers??) "Lucille":

"You picked a fine time to leave me, Lucille... four hundred children and a
crop in the fields..."

(four hungry children)


Ron Hawkins

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Hi Folks,

Having just got my computer back from repair, I was catching up with my
mail, and noticed the request to know if Muriel's Measure has been recorded.
This is certainly available on a tape by the English dance band Orion's
Ring, called 'Corelli's Maggot and Other Dances'.  Steve Hunt, who runs the
band, has a number of recordings available of otherwise unpublished tunes.
He can be contacted at
steve.hunt1-AT-
virgin.net    Hope this helps.

Whilst writing, can I take this opportunity to wish everyone a very Happy
and Peaceful New Year, with lots of enjoyable dancing, playing and calling
in the year to come.

Ann Higley.




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Andy conjectured (in a manner which would give a linguist fits)

>--- etepper-AT-
juno.com wrote:
>> Appropos of the Welsh language...
>> 
>> MY theory is that the Welsh gave all their vowels to the
>> Hawaiians who in
>> return donated all their consonants to the Welsh.
>
>And the Finns intercepted some of each, as they have some words
>with double vowels and others with double consanants.
>
>Andy

Thus giving English the word "finagle," I suppose?

And a very happy New Year for as many as will

Nilos
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Alan Corkett wrote:
> 
> Hi Jon
> The example you quote may be best known in USA, I've never heard it before
> in UK. {"...best-know Mondegreen is Jimi Hendrix's "Excuse me while I kiss
> this guy" (really "kiss the sky").}

It's from "Purple Haze."  I suspect that Hendrix's reputation may have made
it across the Atlantic back in his heyday, but that was, in all fairness, a
while ago.  

For more Mondegreens, and a very interesting article which suggests that
"kiss this guy" may not have actually been a Mondegreen in the technical
sense, see <http://www.kissthisguy.com>.

-- 
Jon Berger
Business: jon-AT-
perforce.com
Personal: jberger-AT-
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Many thanks to all of those who sent directions for Easter Morn. I'm looking 
forward to trying it later today.

Ken McFarland
farlands-AT-
ptialaska.net

_________________________________________________________________
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http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Here, finally, are the directions for how to bid on Christine Helwig's
wonderful Playford gown, which can be seen at CD*NY's website:
www.cdny.org/christine.html

If you wish to bid on Christine's dress, please do so by Monday, January
21, 2002.  We will accept bids via email and also via U.S. mail postmarked
with that date.  To allow postal deliveries sufficient time to get here, we
will not announce the winning bid until Wednesday, January 30, 2002.  If
all works according to plan, we should be able to get the dress to the
winning bidder by Thursday, February 14th, Valentine's Day.

In your bid, please give us the following information:

Your Opening Bid--How much are you willing to pay for Christine's dress?
Your Final Bid--If someone else outbids you, how much higher would you be
willing to go in order to get the dress?  (This second bid is optional.  We
assume most people will stick with their initial bids, but we wanted this
to feel like a real True Brit auction, with active competitive bidding.)
Your Name
Your Address
Your Phone Number
(All bids are to be in U.S. currency.  Sorry, we have no facilities to
process credit cards.)

Send email bids to:  mls-AT-
panix.com
Send U.S. mail bids to:  Sharon Green, 175 Ninth Avenue, New York NY 10011

Thank you for your interest in this very special gown, and for your
willingness to make a memorable contribution to CD*NY's English Program Fund.




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etepper-AT-
juno.com wrote:
> 
> The mistaking of words that sound similar,  Henri Chez vs Enrichez, and
> Shirley the Cross-eyed bear for Surely the Cross I'd Bear is something
> that happens in English only and is called a "Mondegreen".

Jon Carroll, a well-known San Francisco columnist, is quite the collector
of Mondegreens; here's a link to a collection of his Mondegreen columns:

  http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/carroll/mondegreens.shtml

Possibly the best-know Mondegreen is Jimi Hendrix's "Excuse me while I kiss
this guy" (really "kiss the sky").

-- 
Jon Berger
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Ellen:

 >This comes from a mishearing of the Ballad of the Earl of Murray

Mike:

 >I thought it was "The Earl of Moray."

Ellen:

 >Quite right. Thanks for the correction.
 >I guess "That's A Moray" then.

Me:

So it's not "The Eel of Moray?"

                                   :-P

  ______      /\/\/\/\
 <______>     | | | | |  David Barnert
 <______>     | | | | |  <davbarnert-AT-
aol.com>
 <______>     | | | | |  Albany, N.Y.
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Hi Jon
The example you quote may be best known in USA, I've never heard it before
in UK. {"...best-know Mondegreen is Jimi Hendrix's "Excuse me while I kiss
this guy" (really "kiss the sky").}

The oldest one I can think of was told to me some 30 years ago by my HOD at
school, in Battersea, London UK:-
Supposedly took place during the 1st World War when telecommunication was in
its infancy, message sent, "Send reinforcements, we're going to advance."
This was interpreted as, "Send three and four-pence, we're going to a
dance!".
Alan Corkett.
Nether Stowey Som. UK.


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Alan said:

The oldest one I can think of was told to me some 30 years ago by my HOD at
school, in Battersea, London UK:-
Supposedly took place during the 1st World War when telecommunication was in
its infancy, message sent, "Send reinforcements, we're going to advance."
This was interpreted as, "Send three and four-pence, we're going to a
dance!".


Followed rapidly by "The enemy is dancing on a wet plank" (advancing on the
left flank)

My favo(u)rite is th ole country song (Kenny Rogers??) "Lucille":

"You picked a fine time to leave me, Lucille... four hundred children and a
crop in the fields..."

(four hungry children)


Ron Hawkins

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Subject: Re Muriel's Measure
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popserver.panix.com>

Hi Folks,

Having just got my computer back from repair, I was catching up with my
mail, and noticed the request to know if Muriel's Measure has been recorded.
This is certainly available on a tape by the English dance band Orion's
Ring, called 'Corelli's Maggot and Other Dances'.  Steve Hunt, who runs the
band, has a number of recordings available of otherwise unpublished tunes.
He can be contacted at
steve.hunt1-AT-
virgin.net    Hope this helps.

Whilst writing, can I take this opportunity to wish everyone a very Happy
and Peaceful New Year, with lots of enjoyable dancing, playing and calling
in the year to come.

Ann Higley.




================================================================================
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Andy conjectured (in a manner which would give a linguist fits)

>--- etepper-AT-
juno.com wrote:
>> Appropos of the Welsh language...
>> 
>> MY theory is that the Welsh gave all their vowels to the
>> Hawaiians who in
>> return donated all their consonants to the Welsh.
>
>And the Finns intercepted some of each, as they have some words
>with double vowels and others with double consanants.
>
>Andy

Thus giving English the word "finagle," I suppose?

And a very happy New Year for as many as will

Nilos
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Alan Corkett wrote:
> 
> Hi Jon
> The example you quote may be best known in USA, I've never heard it before
> in UK. {"...best-know Mondegreen is Jimi Hendrix's "Excuse me while I kiss
> this guy" (really "kiss the sky").}

It's from "Purple Haze."  I suspect that Hendrix's reputation may have made
it across the Atlantic back in his heyday, but that was, in all fairness, a
while ago.  

For more Mondegreens, and a very interesting article which suggests that
"kiss this guy" may not have actually been a Mondegreen in the technical
sense, see <http://www.kissthisguy.com>.

-- 
Jon Berger
Business: jon-AT-
perforce.com
Personal: jberger-AT-
sbcglobal.net  <--- Note new email address!