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The Germantown Country Dancers evolved because within the international
folk dance community in Philadelphia at that time (1970) there were many
who knew and enjoyed English Country Dances. In exchange for conducting a
music workshop for the local chapter of the Recorder Society, their members
played for an initial 'English only' workshop and party. That had a
surprisingly good response, and a number of dancers then added an evening
of ECD to their otherwise international folk dance schedule. It was later
that folks joined the English dancing without prior anything dance
experience. And we danced to recordings... Not too much later the
Germantown Country Dancers were formed and registered as a center with
CDSS. From the beginning we offered monthly workshop/party combinations,
and for those we imported live music.
It is almost time for the planning of the new dance season...

Questions:
Is your group self-perpetuating at this time?
Are you planning special outreach activities? If so, what are they?
How do you plan to integrate beginning dancers? Through formal beginners
classes or class segments - or informally?
Over the years (how many) has your group diminished in size, stayed even or
grown? 
Has the format of your operations (classes, special events etc.) changed
much?
Does your group sponsor residential weekends? weeks?
How do you attract and nurture musicians?
Do either teachers or musicians volunteer? Is there a difference in pay
structure whether one is a teacher, band leader or member of the band?
Does your group have a logo? A website? A constitution?

Maybe we can all learn from each other's experiences...

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Dear Hanny,

People don't seem to be answering your thread, so I thought I'd reply
off-list to some of your questions.

>Is your group self-perpetuating at this time?

Yes. 
 
>Are you planning special outreach activities? If so, what are they?

ECD workshops for anyone who shows up (newcomers, passers-by) occur every
year at the Northwest Folklife Festival and at the summer outdoor dances at
Greenlake.    

>How do you plan to integrate beginning dancers? Through formal beginners
>classes or class segments - or informally?

	A half-hour beginning class precedes each dance.  Some callers use this to
teach basic terminology and patterns, some to teach everything else but
that (how and when to let go, dancing to the phrase-- see my former post on
teaching beginners.) But mostly beginners are encouraged to dance with
experienced dancers and are helped through their first evening without
special instruction.  Since 3/4 or more of the group is experienced,
beginners can be included fairly easily with lots of help from dancers on
the floor. If there are many, the caller shifts the program to slightly
easier dances and may explain a bit more as we go (eg, how triple minors
work.)

>Over the years (how many) has your group diminished in size, stayed even or
>grown? 
	The ECD community has grown steadily over the past 20 years. The Ball  and
Cascadia weekends draw increasing numbers every year.      

>Has the format of your operations (classes, special events etc.) changed
>much? 
	The format of the regular dances is pretty much the same, except for the
addition of the beginner workshop preceding each dance. Ball format is the
same with minor differences (elimination of three "for those who know
dances" took place three years ago).  

 >Does your group sponsor residential weekends? weeks?

The Ball (MLK weekend) and Cascadia (first weekend in May) are residential
weekends in Seattle.   

>How do you attract and nurture musicians? 

Seattle has a flourishing and ever-expanding ECD music community.  It
started with one great ECD band -- Limeyland (Laurie Andres, Liz Dreisbach,
Derek Booth, Claude Ginsberg)--which provided a model and inspiration for
musicians as new bands developed.  Julie King had been a contra dance
musician (KGB) who started playing ECD and formed her own band to be the
house band of the First Friday dance.  The individuals in the Cast-offs
(now the TRicky Brits) led by Anita Anderson were all astonishing musicians
who played for other kinds of ethnic dance-- Balkan, Scandanavian,
International before they played for ECD.   Julian Adamaitis was a contra
and swing pianist who wanted to play for ECD.  I called a dance at
Northwest New Year's camp, a camper-led camp where anyone can call for or
play anything and Julian held an open band to play for it. Afterwards he
asked for feedback, listened thoughtfully to things I said about playing
for ECD (less emphasis on beat and more on long phrases) and a few months
later he formed his own band, mostly recruited from classical musicians.  
Often musicians find musicians from outside the ECD community and lure them
in themselves. We acquired an oboe and a trumpet player this way.  

For the past year there have been open band nights once a month, which is
bringing many new musicians to try playing for ECD.  Many of these folks
are less experienced on their intruments and have no experience playing for
dance.  Maybe they played in high school, maybe they are just learning,
maybe they have some classical background but have never played by ear or
made up an obligatto, maybe they are lured into ECD from other dance forms.
They are nurtured by having opportunities to play, and by the enjoyment of
jamming with each other.    
  
>Do either teachers or musicians volunteer? 

Some do, some don't. When the first Friday dance started the attendance was
small and the money not enough to pay the band, three of us with other
sources of income decided to donate our portions to the band and we have
continued to do so. Two callers with limited income take a share.  In a
sense the musicians are "volunteering" all the time because the door money
is nowhere near what they are worth.  

Is there a difference in pay
>structure whether one is a teacher, band leader or member of the band?

No.  After the hall is paid for, the money is split equally among the
caller and band members if the caller wants a share or among the band
members if the caller donates his or her portion.  

>Does your group have a logo? A website? A constitution?

The Ball and Cascadia have websites.  There is also a website for West
Coast ECD giving information about the where and when of dances.  

A Constitution?  Not likely!  Things aren't that structured.  They evolve.
Somoene sees a gap or wants a particular kind of event that is slightly
different from what exists-- classes in addition to dances, a
workshop-focused weekend in addition to the ball-- and they organize it.
When the organizers get tired of doing it, the community doesn't want to
give up the event, so someone else takes it over, and the structure shifts
slightly and we all go on dancing. 

Victoria in Seattle. 
Please check out our WEB site at  http://www.oz.net/~bestockp/


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Does anybody have the notes for the (thoroughly delightful) dance Puck's 
Deceit, in a handily email-able form?  I danced it several weeks ago when 
(the thoroughly delightful) Robin Hyden called it at the (take thoroughly 
delightful as read) Arlington dance, and am tardily trying to get ahold of 
the notes.

thanks!

Nilos
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Dear Nilos,

The instructions for Puck's Deceit -- that delightful dance by Chris
Sackett and Brooke Friendly -- was published in the CDSS News back in
November/December 1998.

If you are still at Pinewoods Camp, you might check the CDSS Bookstore for
back-issues of the News...  otherwise, if you have access to a FAX machine,
I could send it to you that way,,,

By the way, the tune for Puck's Deceit: "Kettledrum" //or "Kettle Drum"
(from Playford's 1st edition, no less!) will be on the new CD of Gary
Roodman's dances!  Gary uses the tune for his dance, Laisteridge Lane...
but the recording (by MGM and Reunion) works fine for both dances.   Gary's
CD, entitled "Old Friends" will be available in September...   If you can't
wait until September and you need a recording of the tune *before* that,
you'll find the tune "Kettle Drum" on The NY Renaissance Band's LP
entitled, "Country Capers" :-)
 
Happy dancing!
Love from Susan (Murrow)
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In a couple of weeks, I'll be calling the first of two programs I'm
scheduled to do in the next couple of months for Civil War reenacters. I'd
appreciate suggestions re: dances that might be appropriate for the time and
accessible to a one-night stand kind of group. My understanding from the
musicians who hired me is that the upcoming dance may also be gender
imbalanced with women in the majority, and that they'll be dancing in hoops
and such.


Ridge Kennedy
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, srkennedy wrote:

> In a couple of weeks, I'll be calling the first of two programs I'm
> scheduled to do in the next couple of months for Civil War reenacters. I'd
> appreciate suggestions re: dances that might be appropriate for the time and
> accessible to a one-night stand kind of group. My understanding from the
> musicians who hired me is that the upcoming dance may also be gender
> imbalanced with women in the majority, and that they'll be dancing in hoops
> and such.

If I remember "Gone With the Wind" correctly, this is highly appropriate.
Didn't Scarlett at one point bemoan the fact that there were so few men at
the ball, because they'd all gone off to fight in the war?

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Rumors are flying with regard to a possible literary discovery of the 
greatest importance. The actual manuscript was discovered wrapped around a 
Coney Island hot dog (with everything) in beautiful downtown Detroit (the 
largest U.S. city north of Canada, for those of you who are unfamiliar with 
it).

Verification and authentication are underway, even as we speak, but there is 
good reason to believe that it is an excerpt from a hitherto unimagined 
Hemingway novel, entitled, "For Whom the Sharp Flats." (A possible reference 
to it can be found in an unpublished hypothetical letter by Hemingway to 
Gertrude Stein, in which the former states, "Damn right I have concerns with 
gender identity issues. And center set syndrome stinks. I'm working on a 
novel, even as we speak, that will tear the festering lid off of the seamy 
soft underbelly of this squalid international outrage.") Anyhow, here it is:

Cecil stood up to dance with Maud.

"The hell with it," he said. He sat back down.

Maud looked at Cecil. "What's wrong?" she said.

"To hell with it," he said again. He stayed in his chair.

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You don't need to worry about gender imbalance in your event, women
commonly danced with women historically!


srkennedy wrote:
> 
> In a couple of weeks, I'll be calling the first of two programs I'm
> scheduled to do in the next couple of months for Civil War reenacters. I'd
> appreciate suggestions re: dances that might be appropriate for the time and
> accessible to a one-night stand kind of group. My understanding from the
> musicians who hired me is that the upcoming dance may also be gender
> imbalanced with women in the majority, and that they'll be dancing in hoops
> and such.
> 
> Ridge Kennedy
> Washington, NJ (No Exit)
> When you stumble, make it part of the dance.
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, srkennedy wrote:

> In a couple of weeks, I'll be calling the first of two programs I'm
> scheduled to do in the next couple of months for Civil War reenacters. I'd
> appreciate suggestions re: dances that might be appropriate for the time and
> accessible to a one-night stand kind of group.

hi, ridge.  have you tried posting this enquiry on rec.folk-dancing?
i've seen postings about civil war-era dancing by a regular contributor to
that newsgroup.

for advice from a seasoned local caller of one-night events (including for
revolutionary war re-enactors), i would ask sue dupre.

hope this helps,

susie lorand
princeton, nj, usa

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Ridge Kennedy wrote:

> In a couple of weeks, I'll be calling the first of two programs I'm
> scheduled to do in the next couple of months for Civil War reenacters. I'd
> appreciate suggestions re: dances that might be appropriate for the time and
> accessible to a one-night stand kind of group. My understanding from the
> musicians who hired me is that the upcoming dance may also be gender
> imbalanced with women in the majority, and that they'll be dancing in hoops
> and such.

There's little you can do about the hoops: adjust tempi if the dancers are
struggling with them, and make the dancers stand far enough apart that there's
room to deal with them.

An 1860s ball.  Historically, this would likely be mostly couple dances, 
quadrilles, and cotillons, but the quadrilles are mostly not suitable for 
one-night stands,  you don't want too many couple dances with a gender
imbalance, and the cotillons mostly seem designed to identify the belles of the
ball and humiliate the others.   Still, make sure to have some waltzes, a polka
or two, and maybe a galop.  (Galop you  can actually teach at a ball, because
there's nothing to it - it's basically a slipping step.)  If you think the
dancers can do it, mazurka and redowa are period too.

Have quite an extensive Grand March.  Musicians can medley Civil War themes if
they like.  Everybody gets to show off their costumes.  

You'll have to do a Virginia Reel.  (People will expect it, and it's period. 
It doesn't have to go to "Turkey in the Straw", though.)

I have Mr. Hillgrove's manual here, which seems to have been published in 1863
in New York.  

Here are some useful items from the end of the book.  He pretty much says that
they're a little too much fun for good society, but people do want to keep doing
them so he has to list them here.

CDM = Community Dances Manuals

The Tempest (La Tempete)  (see Wiltshire Tempest in CDM)
"Pop Goes the Weasel" (same dance as "Haste to the Wedding" in CDM)
Sicilian Circle (same dance as "Circassian Circle" in CDM)
Le Carillon de Dunkerque (Chimes of Dunkirk)
Money Musk (which I wouldn't call at a one-night stand, but you never know)
Chorus Jig
College Hornpipe


Hillgrove also gives (my interpretation and glosses)

RUSTIC REEL (three facing three, assuming men in the middle)
(documented as longways but Sicilian Circle is easier)
24 bar tune

8 bars: Men take their right diagonals (right-hand opposite) by two hands and
slip way out to the man's right  (outside the set) and back.

8 bars: Same with left diagonals.  (Extra fun by timing this just right so that
you drop one lady and collect another without having to stop slipping, but this
is unlikely with first time dancer.)

8 bars: Threesomes take hands in line, forward and back, drop hands and pass
through to the next threesome.

Mr. Wirth's 1903 book describes an old-fashioned "Scotch Reel", which might
be old-fashioned enough for forty years earlier.

"This reel is still used when a party wish to have a
jolly time and want to romp and play, especially when all are acquainted."

Swing with right hand / Swing with left hand /Right and left/ Ladies' Chain/
Half promenade / Right and left back/ Forward and back /Pass through and face
the next couple.)

In the threesome Sicilian line - deemed good by some as one means of dealing
with gender imbalance:

I've seen "Dashing White Sergeant" used for this kind of thing.  "Three Meet"
(which appears twice in the CDM) is a very easy, fun dance of this kind.  I
can't speak for the period-ness of either one.

You could try looking the rec.folk-dancing archives - available through 
Google on the web - for Karen Missavage's posts on her favorite dances for
Blue & Gray balls.

Good luck!  Let us know how this turns out.

-- Alan

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Ridge,

I called such a dance several years ago in Sharpsburg, after a day of
re-enacting.
The music was a brass band performed on "original instruments". Don't
forget, they did not have microphones in those days!!! Can you imagine
calling over the music of a ~12 piece brass band with no sound system?
(Needless to say, I had no voice left the next day. That is the last time I
ever forgot to ask about sound system details!) 

Anyway, I consulted with Kitty Keller and the band themselves before doing
this. The band had a recording (LP, probably very limited) that I managed
to acquire a copy of).  This is 
"The Americus Brass Band presents a 19th Century Grand Ball (A programme of
authentic dance music of the 1840-1860's...)" Dances included on the album
are: The Grand March, The Amazon Galop, The Sicilian Circle, The Rachel
Waltzes, The Spanish Dance, La Ristori Schottische, The Lanciers,
Quadrille, Ninetta Polka, Polka Mazurka, The Virginia Reel, Farewell
Waltzes. Anyway, I remember doing things such as waltzes, polkas,
schottisches, Virginia Reel, some sort of quadrilles, maybe some part of
the Lancers. Also, did some other dances along this same line. (e.g.
probably another strip the willow dance, or other dance in the same set
format as Virginia Reel, where the progression is the top couple ends at
the bottom.) Much of the town came to this event, including the Mayor. Most
danced at the beginning, but then many just socialized while a few
continued to dance, so I did a lot of improvising to have dances that
matched the number of couples. It was also interesting in that this band
had a set arrangement for each tune, and when they finished, they were
done, regardless of what the caller wanted.

I do recommend Kitty Keller as a resource on this, but I think what I ended
up doing pretty much matches what she suggested. The album jacket also
gives directions for the dances included, as well as some excerpts on ball
room etiquette. It also gives sources for several books where they got
their info from - various dance books published from mid-1800's to early
1900's. So, if you want any more info, I can probably type some more....

Good luck,

Diane

Diane Schmit
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At 06:21 AM 8/6/01 , you wrote:
>In a couple of weeks, I'll be calling the first of two programs I'm
>scheduled to do in the next couple of months for Civil War reenacters. I'd
>appreciate suggestions re: dances that might be appropriate for the time and
>accessible to a one-night stand kind of group. My understanding from the
>musicians who hired me is that the upcoming dance may also be gender
>imbalanced with women in the majority, and that they'll be dancing in hoops
>and such.
>
>
>Ridge Kennedy
>Washington, NJ (No Exit)
>When you stumble, make it part of the dance.
> 
Diane Schmit
dschmit-AT-
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Diane Schmit wrote:

> The music was a brass band performed on "original instruments". Don't
> forget, they did not have microphones in those days!!! Can you imagine
> calling over the music of a ~12 piece brass band with no sound system?
> (Needless to say, I had no voice left the next day. That is the last time I
> ever forgot to ask about sound system details!) 

That raises an interesting question: how DID callers handle the volume
issue in the days before sound systems?  I can certainly understand a
period-recreation event wanting to avoid electronic amplification, but how
are they supposed to do that without destroying the caller's vocal cords?
Bands, obviously, can create more volume by using more musicians or louder
instruments or both, but callers seem to be soloists by their very nature,
so what did they do?  At one very not-all-that-concerned-with-accuracy
event I know about, the Dickens Christmas Fair, they've taken to announcing
the names of dances by having three or four people shout "Take partners for
Sir Roger de Coverly" (or whatever) in unison, which is fine as far as it
goes, but I have no reason to suspect that it's historically accurate, and
this technique certainly wouldn't help if someone were trying to actually
call a dance.  Did dancers keep quieter in those days, or did callers use
megaphones, or did people just know the dances and not need callers, or
what?

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Jon Berger rasised the question:

>  Did dancers keep quieter in those days, or did callers use
>megaphones, or ...
>
 I don't know if they used megaphones "back then", but I had the
"opportunity" to call some dances for a reinactor's group outdoors a few
years back and decided to use a megaphone. It worked very well. The
attendees said I could be heard very well over an area about 60x40 ft. I
made the megaphone out of an oat meal box by opening the seam, cutting a
pattern for a (truncated) cone, and gluing the seam back together. I
spray-painted it a dull brown and, in the dim light of evening, it looked
like leather. Someone even came up to ask me where I had found the leather
megaphone.

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> On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Diane Schmit wrote:

> > The music was a brass band performed on "original instruments". Don't
> > forget, they did not have microphones in those days!!! Can you imagine
> > calling over the music of a ~12 piece brass band with no sound system?

(Incidentally, I've heard the Americus Brass Band album, and I think it's  very
fine.  I am not, however, convinced that large all-brass bands played for 
indoor dancing - as distinct from parades, ceremonies, and large outdoor
occasions - all that often.  The point of brass bands is to be heard even in
unfavorable conditions; the point of large public ballrooms is to provide
favorable conditions.)

> That raises an interesting question: how DID callers handle the volume
> issue in the days before sound systems?  I can certainly understand a
> period-recreation event wanting to avoid electronic amplification, but how
> are they supposed to do that without destroying the caller's vocal cords?
> Bands, obviously, can create more volume by using more musicians or louder
> instruments or both, but callers seem to be soloists by their very nature,
> so what did they do?  At one very not-all-that-concerned-with-accuracy
> event I know about, the Dickens Christmas Fair, they've taken to announcing
> the names of dances by having three or four people shout "Take partners for
> Sir Roger de Coverly" (or whatever) in unison, which is fine as far as it
> goes, but I have no reason to suspect that it's historically accurate, and
> this technique certainly wouldn't help if someone were trying to actually
> call a dance.  Did dancers keep quieter in those days, or did callers use
> megaphones, or did people just know the dances and not need callers, or
> what?

Mr. Hillgrove only sort of addresses this issue.  (He has a couple of pages on
calling, which make it clear that you talk over the music - the right time to
call a figure is a full measure before it starts.)  

Here's what he says on volume:

"In calling, let the voice be natural, and speaking just loud enough to be
distinctly heard throughout the room.

When a number of instruments are playing, and especially if the room is large,
the Prompter will have to speak very loudly in order to be distinctly heard.
On such occasions he should take the most prominent place in the orchestra;
standing up is the best position.  If sitting, he should be above the
musicians."

Here I'll point out that filling a large hall with a single voice was something
that orators, actors and singers did throughout the nineteenth century, and the
techniques are still known.  (Use the diaphragm, not the throat - open your
throat, project, etc.)

As to how you got people forming sets at all, he suggests appointing multiple
"floor managers, whose duty it shall be to form the sets, and to see that they
are complete; to find places for all persons who may wish to dance; to direct
the musicians when to commence, and to decide all questions which may arise
during the ball."  (How multiple floor managers decide when to commend, and
whether their authority supersedes that of the Prompter, is not discussed.)

While we're on the subject, he has advice on hiring music for dancing, saying
which instruments to get depending on how many you can afford.  (If only one,
violin is unquestionably the best, next to that, the pianoforte should be
chosen.)  He goes up to ten pieces: First violin, second violin, tenor violin,
violincello, double bass, flute, clarionet, first cornet, second cornet,
trombone.)  Ten isn't a maximum, but if you want more "some of the parts will
have to be doubled, and others added to them, according to the number engaged,
and this should be done by direction of the Band Master."

-- Alan

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Dear Dancing Friends,
This email is sent out to invite those of you and your aquaintances who will
be in the vicinity of the ACT, Australia on Saturday 8th September, to a day
of English Country Dance Workshops  - topped off by an grand evening
Playford Ball. Bare details are below - to recieve a registration form,
please email me.
Day Workshop with John Garden – learn dozens of fun dances and lots about
the style which makes this dance form so special.

9:30am – 10:00am Registration and warm-ups.

10:00am – 4:00pm Workshops with morning & afternoon teas

12:30pm – 1:30pm BYO picnic lunch on nearby lawns together with illustrated
dance history talk

Evening Playford Ball
8:00pm to 11:45pm
with band Earthly Delights (featuring the wonderful playing of Ian Blake!),
special musical and dance guests (Molongolo Morris) and light supper.

Program will include such classics as Black Nag, Childgrove, Dargeson,
Gathering Peascods, Goddesses, Grimstock, Hole in the Wall, Indian Queen,
Jenny Plucked Pears, Juice of Barley, Nonesuch, Rufty Tufty, Sellenger’s
Round, The Geud Man of Ballangigh and the Queen of Sheeba!

Registration and Information:
Aylwen Garden
87 Schlich Street, Yarralumla Act 2600
garden-AT-
earthlydelights.com.au
www.earthlydelights.com.au
Ph.(02) 6281 1098

Workshops Only    10am – 4pm     $15 / $12 conc.
Ball Only $12 / $10 conc.
Workshops & Ball if paid by Sept 1, 2001   Just $20

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Address

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 Phone

Email

For Credit Card Payments: (Circle One) VISA / MASTERCARD / BANKCARD
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Warmest Regards,
Aylwen Garden




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Hello,

Fred Todt and I are somewhat desperately seeking a ride to Pinewoods for
English week.  We have a flight that arrives at Hartford/Springfield
airport (not far from I-90/Mass Pike) at 2:15 PM.

We thought it would be easy to find a ride, but are discovering otherwise.
We've checked busses, car rentals, friends, and other campers, but they
aren't working out.  If any kind list readers can offer a ride or helpful
suggestions, we'd be grateful.  Please respond to me privately.

Thanks!
Joseph Pimentel
Columbus OH


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Greg and Gretchen are driving out, although I don't know when they are
leaving, but it might be worth a call to them...

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Hello,

Fred Todt and I are somewhat desperately seeking a ride to Pinewoods for
English week.  We have a flight that arrives at Hartford/Springfield
airport (not far from I-90/Mass Pike) at 2:15 PM.

We thought it would be easy to find a ride, but are discovering otherwise.
We've checked busses, car rentals, friends, and other campers, but they
aren't working out.  If any kind list readers can offer a ride or helpful
suggestions, we'd be grateful.  Please respond to me privately.

Thanks!
Joseph Pimentel
Columbus OH

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Hello,

Fred Todt and I are somewhat desperately seeking a ride to Pinewoods for
English week.  We have a flight that arrives at Hartford/Springfield
airport (not far from I-90/Mass Pike) at 2:15 PM.

We thought it would be easy to find a ride, but are discovering otherwise.
We've checked busses, car rentals, friends, and other campers, but they
aren't working out.  If any kind list readers can offer a ride or helpful
suggestions, we'd be grateful.  Please respond to me privately.

Thanks!
Joseph Pimentel
Columbus OH



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Hi Joseph & Fred!

I'm sending this to the List - mea culpa, Alan et al (first a virus,
then a private message, where will it end??) - but Joseph's email
address is not responding.

Have you gotten a ride yet?  I will be driving west to east and could
swing up to pick you up at Bradley but my car is not very big...so if
you get a better offer, take it!

I have no email at work, so I'll check tonight to see if you've worked
out any better plan; but, if push comes to shove (and it will, in my
little Saturn wagon), I will bring you to camp - we've waited all
year...a little transportation snag won't stop us now!!

Mary Jones
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The brochures have gone out for our super English weekend to be
held Sept 14-16.  This event is not to be missed!  Gene Murrow leads us with
wonderful musical assistance from Daron Douglas, Earl Gaddis, and Jacqueline
Schwab.  Last year, Gene officially dubbed Atlanta's September weekend as a
"Destination Event."  We're still working on the precise meaning of this
phrase, but we're told basically means that folks like to come here to
dance!

If you have not received a brochure and would like one, please send your
snail mail address to me at dwoolf-AT-
emory.edu.  Or go to the following site:

http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~dwoolf/weekend.html

We hope to see you on our dance floor in September.

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Hi David
I guess from the dates which seem to indicate it is a weekend that you mean
this year? for your event in September!

Personally, I would send out publicity in the UK 12 to 9 months ahead. I am
impressed that you can fill an event within 6 weeks. Just goes to show how
different the dance scene behaves and the variation in expectation.  If we
were not half full at five to six months ahead, I would consider cancelling
the event, unless somebody else was underwriting or paying for the event.

Incidentally, I went to Sidmouth Folk Festival (runs from 3rd to 10 August),
Devon, UK., on Saturday and again on Sunday and the word was that they were
not so busy this year on the dance side. I would be glad to hear comments as
the week progressed.

Regards Alan Corkett.
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Subject: Atlanta's fall English Weekend


The brochures have gone out for our super English weekend to be
held Sept 14-16.  This event is not to be missed!  Gene Murrow leads us with
wonderful musical assistance from Daron Douglas, Earl Gaddis, and Jacqueline
Schwab.... etc.

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Hello Alan,

If you weren't impressed with Sidmouth try coming up to Whitby Folk Week
(18-24 Aug) on the Yorkshire Coast.
With people like Hilary Herbert, Nic Broadbridge, Bill & Barbara
Kinsman,  Barrie Bullimore, Denis Smith & Sue Stapleton, Mixolydians
etc. etc. (to mention just a few of the 600 events!!) it should be quite
a week.  (I have nothing to do with the festival - I just enjoy going
there year after year!)

And then, you could either miss the Friday, or if you're not at Whitby,
just go straight to Southam for another great weekend of dancing
organised by Wendy & Graham Knight.

With reference to advance publicity, I have never organised anything
more than a day of dance, so a weekend could panic me a bit - especially
as for any event in Sheffield locals will not even consider buying
tickets in advance. I just presume people will turn up on the day!
Working on your principal we would be cancelling some events before we
organised them! However, in the years I have been organising events in
Sheffield, I think there have only been 2 events which were poorly
attended.

By the way, I presume you have something to do with Halsway.  We wanted
to go to the Andrew Shaw weekend (before I had email, may be 2 years
ago - the one which was cancelled).  We left at least 6 messages on the
Halsway answer-phone asking for more/booking details, and no-one ever
came back to us, and then we heard it was cancelled. I presume things
have changed now, but how you advertise, coupled with your booking
arrangements, can obviously make a difference to the event.

So, keep organising events - there are still a lot of people around who
will get to them. And one day/weekend we hope to get to Halsway (next
Feb we hope - if there is room for us at the Andrew Shaw & Belshazzars
Feast weekend)

Cheers,
Trevor Monson.



Subject: Re: Atlanta's fall English Weekend


> Hi David
> I guess from the dates which seem to indicate it is a weekend that you
mean
> this year? for your event in September!
>
> Personally, I would send out publicity in the UK 12 to 9 months ahead.
I am
> impressed that you can fill an event within 6 weeks. Just goes to show
how
> different the dance scene behaves and the variation in expectation.
If we
> were not half full at five to six months ahead, I would consider
cancelling
> the event, unless somebody else was underwriting or paying for the
event.
>
> Incidentally, I went to Sidmouth Folk Festival (runs from 3rd to 10
August),
> Devon, UK., on Saturday and again on Sunday and the word was that they
were
> not so busy this year on the dance side. I would be glad to hear
comments as
> the week progressed.
>
> Regards Alan Corkett.
> > Subject: Atlanta's fall English Weekend
>
>
> The brochures have gone out for our super English weekend to be
> held Sept 14-16.  This event is not to be missed!  Gene Murrow leads
us with
> wonderful musical assistance from Daron Douglas, Earl Gaddis, and
Jacqueline
> Schwab.... etc.



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Subject: Re: Atlanta's fall English Weekend


Hello Alan,

If you weren't impressed with Sidmouth try coming up to Whitby Folk Week
(18-24 Aug) on the Yorkshire Coast. With people like Hilary Herbert, Nic
Broadbridge, Bill & Barbara Kinsman,  Barrie Bullimore, Denis Smith & Sue
Stapleton, Mixolydians
etc. etc. (to mention just a few of the 600 events!!) it should be quite a
week.

And then, just go straight to Southam for another great weekend of dancing
organised by Wendy & Graham Knight.

With reference to advance publicity, I have never organised anything more
than a day of dance, so a weekend could panic me a bit - especially as for
any event in Sheffield locals will not even consider buying tickets in
advance. I just presume people will turn up on the day!

*****I can really see me wanting to pay £5000 to hire a marquee on this
principle!!

Working on your principal we would be cancelling some events before we
organised them! However, in the years I have been organising events in
Sheffield, I think there have only been 2 events which were poorly attended.


****May be  there is a moral here!

By the way, I presume you have something to do with Halsway.  We wanted to
go to the Andrew Shaw weekend (before I had email, may be 2 years ago - the
one which was cancelled).  We left at least 6 messages on the Halsway
answer-phone asking for more/booking details, and no-one ever came back to
us, and then we heard it was cancelled. I presume things have changed now,
but how you advertise, coupled with your booking arrangements, can obviously
make a difference to the event.


****Yes many people just book from year to year. This is what you are up
against by coming in at the last minute.  You either find it is full or
cancelled.  When you run a place like Halsway it has to be financed ahead
and budgeted, or the charity faces financial ruin!

So, keep organising events - there are still a lot of people around who will
get to them. And one day/weekend we hope to get to Halsway (next Feb we
hope - if there is room for us at the Andrew Shaw & Belshazzars Feast
weekend)

Cheers,
Trevor Monson.
----------------------------------------
Hi Trevor

Yes, I remember going to Whitby to play in 1972, the Kinsmans still had all
their kids with them!  I know all the staff people you mention personally
and have of course made recordings with Denis.

We are soon off to a folk camp at Ridley Hall, Hexham, (www.folkcamp.com)
then maybe Whitby before ending up somewhere for the bank holiday.

Yes, you are right, I am something to do with Halsway. I am one of the
trustees and I edit the Halsway Manor magazine. I also look for likely
people (are you listening Trevor!!) to run events there (we need to fill 50
weekends and 50 midweek breaks! annually), for organisers, callers, singers
and musicians to perform at events that the manor organises, as part of the
role for the Business Development group.

I have also had involvement in setting up the website which David Kettlewell
weaves  (in Sweden) for us.

I am sorry you had problems booking at Halsway. Hopefully, we can look
forward to a future which is very different and encourages the support and
participation of all the members and Friends.  We have a new young lady just
started by the name of Melonie who answers the phone and I hope you will be
impressed with the improvement in efficiency. But please don't leave it too
late to book for the February event. It is extremely popular, numbers are
limited and is receiving greater publicity too.  I have several events
organised next year for a whole range of interests; dancers; singers;
Northumbrian pipers, new renaissance music enthusiasts, and a brand new
Halsway Jubilee Festival 2002 in June. Letters are going out as I speak. If
you wish to know more please contact the office-AT-
halswaymanor.co.uk or look
at www.halswaymanor.co.uk

Halsway is a wonderful residential folk music centre and deserves to be
visited by all those with folk interests central to their being.  Just ask
some of those who have been

Best Wishes Alan Corkett

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Trevor Monson wrote:

>  And one day/weekend we hope to get to Halsway (next
> Feb we hope - if there is room for us at the Andrew Shaw & Belshazzars
> Feast weekend)
>
> Cheers,
> Trevor Monson.

Which I can certainly recommend -- I was one of the lucky ones last year and
the whole weekend was one big treat. The 2002 dates are: 15-17 February.

Philippe Callens
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I know that everyone is off at dance camps, but on your return, mark your
calendars for an English country dance with....


Chatham Baroque (the hottest Baroque group around, recording on the
Dorian label)

Caller:  Allison Thompson

When:  Friday, September 28, 2001, from 8 - 10 pm, with a free beginners'
workshop from 7 - 8

Where:  the Laughlin Music Center on the Chatham College Campus,
Pittsburgh Pennsylvania USA

Cost:  $20, $10 for students

Maps and more information are available on:  http://www.cdssp.org, which
is the site for the Country Dance & Song Society of Pittsburgh.

For hospitality or questions, you can contact me (offlist: 
AllisonThompson-AT-
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pitt.edu

We held a dance with Chatham Baroque last year and found it a unique
experience dancing to period instruments!  I'm still putting together the
program, but am inclining towards dances with very baroque-y music, since
the musicians' forte (so to speak) is Purcell, etc. (though I plan to
include both the Foula Reel and Johnny, Get Your Wife Back).

For those who want to stay the weekend, there will be both a contra dance
and a swing dance (different locations!) on Saturday night.  For more
information on Pittsburgh events, go to www.coalcountry.org

Allison





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Greetings,

For the convenience of everybody on the list when posting an event notice
PLEASE put the location in the title.


TIA

Norman

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Hi Alan,

Thanks for your reply.

I'm still trying to book for Andrew and BF. We "registered our interest"
months ago, but understand that we cannot try and book until the booking
forms are all sent out together, sometime in the future. So, at the
moment our hands are tied, as we are not yet allowed to book,  hence my
comments about hoping to be there!

Ref. your £5000 for a marquee. I thought Halsway was an inside venue? Or
is that some other event that you organise?

Obviously different levels of organisation are required for different
types of event. A week long festival cannot be run on the same lines as
a one evening event .
Residential and non-residential events will have different criteria on
booking.  Therefore, depending on the type of event it must be easier to
organise some on a very short time scale, and still be successful. The
venue, performers (for want of a better word), expected number dancers,
and length of event surely must be the main criteria on how far in the
future an event needs to be booked up.

So, when I send this I'll have a look at your web site - thanks for the
publicity on Halsway.

Best wishes,
Trev.






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The Portland English Country Dance Community is putting on its annual Ball 
the weekend of November 10, 2001.  The weekend begins with a fun social dance 
on Friday evening where old friends meet and new friendships are formed.  On 
Saturday afternoon the Ball workshop teaches some of the more challenging and 
less known dances, as well as gives quick reviews of repertoire dances.  
Saturday evening the Ball begins with waltzing in the beautiful parish hall 
at the Trinity Episcopal Cathedral.  An after the Ball party at a nearby 
restaurant finishes the evening.  Then on Sunday, a brunch in the passive 
solar community building at the Sunlight Co-housing Community provides an 
opportunity to relax, eat, share stories, view the photos and videos from the 
night before, and, yes, play more music and dance.  

This year's list of dances is a collection of old and true favorites with new 
fancies.  Ball dances will be selected from the following list: Astonished 
Archeologist, Cadger's Caper, Christina. Easter Thursday, Face the Music, 
Fair and Softly, Geud Man of Ballangigh, Jack's Health, Knole Park, Long Live 
London, Mad Robin, Mayfair, Peace Be With You, The Pursuit, Quite Carried 
Away, Rose of Rochester, Shandy Hall, Vintage 38, The Wedding Ring, and Well 
Hall.

We will gladly arrange hospitality for out-of-towners (e.g., places to stay, 
rides to and from the airport, childcare, and directions to Powell's, a BIG 
and truly great bookstore - still owned locally - in downtown Portland.)

For more information contact Paula Hamlin at 503-691-1758 or 
phamlin-AT-
easystreet.com.  

Or, me - Nan Evans - at my new e-mail address:
Nanswaltz-AT-
earthlink.net

Hope to see you there.

Nan Evans
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The Eugene Oregon branch of the Heather and the Rose Country Dances will bring
Bare Necessities for a weekend of dance September 28-30. Friday night is a
dance party of mostly English and some contra and Scottish. Saturday includes
three workshop sessions with a choice of two workshops per session (three
English workshops, a Scottish workshop, a musicians workshop and a ball review
workshop). Workshops will be taught by Brooke Friendly, Chris Sackett, Chuck
Ryer, Alixe Dancer, various H&R teachers for the ball review and Jacqueline
Schwab for the musicians workshop. Saturday night is the Eugene Harvest Ball of
mostly English and some Scottish. Sunday is a potluck brunch and dance party.

For a flyer email belqueen-AT-
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Any info on this dance or reconstructions thereof?  

Allison

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I was intrigued to read of Mr. S. Corrsin's discovery of a hitherto
unknown Hemingway ms. addressing some little known aspects of the folk
revival--why, it seems like only yesterday that I opened an old trunk in
my attic to discover the following even earlier manuscript (bidding opens
at $10,000,000.00):



It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession
of a good fortune (and a handsome countenance), who arrives alone at a
dance, must be in want of a wife.

However little known the feelings or views of such a man may be on his
first entering a ballroom, this truth is so well fixed in the minds of
the attendant nymphs and their mamas, that he is considered as the
rightful property of some one or other of themselves, their sisters or
their daughters.

"My dear Mr. Bennet," said his lady to him one day, "have you heard that
Netherfield Park is let at last to a young man with excellent calves?"

Mr. Bennet replied that he had not.

"Do you not wish to know who has taken it?" cried his wife impatiently.

"*You* want to tell me, and I have no objection to hearing it."

This was invitation enough.

"Why, my dear, you must know, Mrs. Long says that Netherfield is taken at
last by a young man of large fortune and excellent dancing skills, honed
by many weeks of attendance at Pinewoods; that he came down on Monday in
a chaise and four (with his dancing slippers) and that he was so much
delighted with the place that he agreed to take it immediately.  I do not
know how his rant step is, so he may be not suited well enough to my dear
Jane, but if he can poussette passably, he might do for Lizzy."



 




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Allison M Thompson wrote:

> Any info on this dance or reconstructions thereof?
>
> Allison
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See http://www.izaak.unh.edu/nhltmd/indexes/dancingmaster/Dance/Play1065.htm
for the original,  Contry Dance Book 4 for Cecil's interpretation

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   I'm thinking of leading this dance (for 5 couples in a square) next
month.  I have it written down as being by Wendy Crouch, but as I have
looked around for the music, etc. I've also found indications that the
dance is by Scott Higgs.  Which one is correct?  Are there perhaps two
dances by the same name that I'm getting confused?  Has anyone else done
this dance?  What are your impressions of it?  It looks like it will be
fun, with a little challenge, due to the heys, to keep the dancers on
their toes.

   Thanks.

Jonathan

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I believe that you are talking about at least two dances: the Early One
Morning I know is certainly by Scott Higgs, and is published in his book of
the same name. It is a longways duple minor, and if my memory serves me,
features no heys at all.
The ECD database suggests that there is another of this name by Ernst van
Brakel--this a longways duple minor, 1s improper--available in *Dutch
crossing* and *Playford from the New World*--but I have neither seen nor
danced this 'un. So it is possible that you have seen a 5-cu. adapation of
this dance, but I daren't guess.

Perhaps Wendy Crouch is the author of yet a third dance of this name or to
this tune (but not necessarily both!).




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Graham.Christian-AT-
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>
> Perhaps Wendy Crouch is the author of yet a third dance of this name or to
> this tune (but not necessarily both!).
>

Correct - there are (at least) three dances to this tune.
(Though Wendy's dance has since had another tune written
especially for it)

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Hugh Stewart writes:
> 
> Graham.Christian-AT-
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> 
> >
> > Perhaps Wendy Crouch is the author of yet a third dance of this name or to
> > this tune (but not necessarily both!).
> >
> 
> Correct - there are (at least) three dances to this tune.
> (Though Wendy's dance has since had another tune written
> especially for it)

   Do you recall the name of the tune?  Do you know how I could get in
touch with her about the dance and/or tune?

   Thanks.

Jonathan

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Jonathan wrote:

" I'm thinking of leading this dance (for 5 couples in a square) next
month.  I have it written down as being by Wendy Crouch, but as I have
looked around for the music, etc."

I have a feeling the dance you're looking for is "Winter Solstice." It is
by Wendy Couch, for 5 couples, and has some interesting heys. Bare
Necessities recent CD "Modern Treasures" uses the tune  "Early One Morning"
for the dance, titled on the CD, " Winter Solstice."

I understand there is a tune written especilly for the dance, but I do not
know where that can be found. Perhaps someone else can pick it up from here
and help you out.

Lou


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Wendy Crouch's dance Winter Solstice, to the tune of the same name by
David Dean, can be found in Wendy's compilation, Further Flights of Fancy
(1998), which I fancy that I bought from CDSS.

Allison









On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 15:51:25 -0400 Lou Vosteen <lvosteen-AT-
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writes:
> Jonathan wrote:
> 
> " I'm thinking of leading this dance (for 5 couples in a square) 
> next
> month.  I have it written down as being by Wendy Crouch, but as I 
> have
> looked around for the music, etc."
> 
> I have a feeling the dance you're looking for is "Winter Solstice." 
> It is
> by Wendy Couch, for 5 couples, and has some interesting heys. Bare
> Necessities recent CD "Modern Treasures" uses the tune  "Early One 
> Morning"
> for the dance, titled on the CD, " Winter Solstice."
> 
> I understand there is a tune written especilly for the dance, but I 
> do not
> know where that can be found. Perhaps someone else can pick it up 
> from here
> and help you out.
> 
> Lou
> 
> 

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Greetings!
    Earlier this summer, I was in the UK and Wendy gave me several copies of 
Further Flights of Fancy (which contains Winter Solstice) and her previous 
book, Flights of Fancy, to have on hand for just this sort of occasion.  
Anyone interested in either book can purchase one from me for $6.00 each.  
Please contact me off-list at okrasner-AT-
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--Orly (facing several loads of laundry after a fabulous English week at 
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One of our dancers will be in Halifax, Nova Scotia between now and the end
of September.

Can any list members provide me with information on English Country dancing
in the Halifax area during that time period.

Thanks.

	Martin

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Hi, Martin:

> One of our dancers will be in Halifax, Nova Scotia between now and the end
> of September.

I will put on my ECD hat and tell you that I run
a group "The Playford Dancers."

No dates per se are mentioned, but classes start
on Tuesday, September 11th, and run weekly.

It is an open class and costs $2.00 per evening
running from 7.15 p.m. to 9.30 p.m. Recorded music.

The address is:
North Woodside Community Centre
230 Pleasant Street, Dartmouth, N.S.

(902) 835-5154

If the person contacts me I will be very pleased
to explain how they can reach North Woodside.

Regards, John
Bedford, Nova Scotia
 
 

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I had enjoyed "Orleans Baffled" for years before Bert Simons of Kentish
Hops fame pointed out to me that the currently danced version is based on
an oversight: the first four bars of music - in the manuscript in the
British Museum at least - are repeated! Dancing it that way eliminates the
mad rush in the three changes of a hey at the end...
Has anyone ever tried it that way? 

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>I had enjoyed "Orleans Baffled" for years before Bert Simons of Kentish
>Hops fame pointed out to me that the currently danced version is based on
>an oversight: the first four bars of music - in the manuscript in the
>British Museum at least - are repeated! Dancing it that way eliminates the
>mad rush in the three changes of a hey at the end...


How boring that sounds.  There goes a hemiola, right down the drain 
of faithfulness to the print.  Not to mention the sequence in the 
melody.

Bah!

>Has anyone ever tried it that way?


thank goodness, not I!

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This should not be new news. I am looking at the 1710 version of OB from
the *Dancing Master* database (not a manuscript, but the first printed
version), and it clearly says "The first Strain twice, and the last once."
And there is a muzzy line after bar 4 that should indicate the repeat
point. So, strictly speaking, the 1s doubtless did their cast down & half
poussette to the first A, and their cast up and half poussette to the
second A.
The trouble comes in the single B--how do the diagonal crosses work? Most
likely, they are six-count crosses--a little dull, if you're not showing
off your polished hornpipe step. Plus, they happen *across* a phrase that
is a restatement of the A in a related key--a little confusing and
unsatisfying (perhaps even to the dancers of 1710). However, if you do
6-count crosses, you get a perfectly logical 3 changes of rights-and-lefts,
3-counts the first two, 6 the last (very typical).

So, while you'd gain in historicity, I'm not certain you'd gain much in
clarity. Doing the crosses at the beginning of the B will tend to make even
dancers who *haven't* been doing OB since God was a child say to
themselves, on musical grounds alone, "Should I be casting/leading now?"

I'm afraid there is a faint awkwardness in *either* version...




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>I'm afraid there is a faint awkwardness in *either* version...


Ah, but it's a breathtakingly exciting "awkwardness" in the modern version!

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Hello John,

Thanks for the information regarding ECD in Halifax.  I relayed it to our
dancer, Jean, last night.  Unfortunately, her trip ends before your classes
start.  But, thanks anyway, I'll keep the info on file for future reference,

Martin



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Greetings to the list!

We're doing our first ECD in Phoenix this Saturday, hoping to have a monthly dance from then on.



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English Country Dancing at Phoenix Unitarian-Universalist Church Saturday, August 25th, from 7-10pm. 



This is a fun, casual dancing style which first became popular in 17th and 18th century English villages. 

The music is beautiful, the steps are easy and the pace is comfortable. 

No experience is necessary, no partners are necessary and all dances will be taught and called. 



No charge, but donations of canned/dry food or household goods for needy families are appreciated. 



Location: 4027 E Lincoln Dr, Paradise Valley. SR51 to Glendale Ave, East to 4027 E Lincoln (Glendale turns into Lincoln) 



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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Greetings to the list!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We're doing our first ECD in Phoenix this Saturday, 
hoping to have a monthly dance from then on.</FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=arial>English Country Dancing at Phoenix Unitarian-Universalist 
Church Saturday, </FONT><FONT face=arial>August 25th, from 7-10pm. 
</FONT></P><BR>
<P><FONT face=arial>This is a fun, casual dancing style which first became 
popular in 17th and </FONT><FONT face=arial>18th century English villages. 
</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=arial>The music is beautiful, the steps are easy and the pace is 
comfortable. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=arial>No experience is necessary, no partners are necessary and 
all dances will be </FONT><FONT face=arial>taught and called. </FONT></P><BR>
<P><FONT face=arial>No charge, but donations of canned/dry food or household 
goods for needy </FONT><FONT face=arial>families are appreciated. 
</FONT></P><BR>
<P><FONT face=arial>Location: 4027 E Lincoln Dr, Paradise Valley. SR51 to 
Glendale Ave, East </FONT><FONT face=arial>to 4027 E Lincoln (Glendale turns 
into Lincoln) </FONT></P><BR>
<P><FONT face=arial>For more info: "Tom Vincent" &lt;TomRVincent-AT-
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I have the pleasure to announce a CD project that will include “my own
work” (my own dances and some of my reconstructions).

Two Philly based bands with whom I have successfully worked together
will play the music: Hold the Mustard (Daniel Beerbohm, Barbara
Greenberg, Paul Prestopino, Kathy Talvitie) and A Joyful Noise (again
Daniel, Barbara and Kathy). The CD is a co-production between them and
myself. We hope to have it available by the summer of 2002.

A selection will be made from these next dances (those with * are
reconstructions):

Arlington Assembly
Astonished Archaeologist (The)
Barn Elms*
Black Bess*
Casterton Capers
Christmas at Zeist
Delight of Kentish Countryside (The)
Early Frost (An)
Enfield Common*
Excuse Me*
Gavre (La)*
Gentleman’s Delight
Gold for the Mahieus
Hortonia
Patrick’s Waltz
Return to Newcastle
Skipping Det
Trip to Amsterdam
Trip to Mortsel
Two Pauls (The)
Volpony*


Philippe Callens
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In John Stapledon's dance "A Pair of Jays", published in Not Quite the
Same, he uses the term "interline".

Does anyone (Trevor?) know what he means by that? Siding into line?

Thanks!

Philippe Callens

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Any English dance (or other types of dance) in the Sacramento, Cal area Aug
27 thru Sept. 1?
Thanks,
Dianna
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A full list of English, Contra, and special events all over California (yes, including Sacramento) is available at http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/dance/CaConEng.html

Hope this helps.

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I'm proud to announce that our dance was mentioned on the local classical music station here in Phoenix (KBAQ) as well as listed in the Arizona Republic newspaper on Saturday.

A good beginning, I must say.  The dance starts in two hours and I'll post a message tomorrow about how it went.

Tom Vincent


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I learned Orleans Baffled in 1961 at The Round in Cambridge as a duple minor, 
and always do it that way: I find the triple minor version tedious by 
comparison.

Wonter Solstice (proper tune composed by David Dean) has just been released 
on The Assembly Players' new CD 'Old World - New Dances', which also contains 
the following:
    A Trip to Richmond, A Trip to Macclesfield, The Hen Run, An Enchanted 
Place, Gold for Brenda, Nick's Maggot, Medlars and Mulberries, Wrexham 
Square, The Hunt, Enrichez Vous, St Giles' Gate, Mr Prentice's Maggott, 
October's Child, Mrs Pike's Maggot, Darius, Oliver's Maggot, The Priory 
Gardens, Come Sweet Lass, Hatfield House and Josephine. 
    Total playing time is 78' 59", and the booklet, as is usual with our 
recordings, contains instructions for all of the dances.

    Early One Morning by Ernst van Brakel may be found in 'Triple Dutch' 
published by the NVS. It is listed by NVS Shop on the NVS web site.
    Both it and Scott Higgs' dance of the same title are good dances, but if 
memory serves me right, our recording of Scott's dance  (on 'Playford from 
the New World') will not work for Ernst's dance, as I think that requires two 
B musics, whereas Scott's uses only one.
                                                        Nicolas Broadbridge.
    - just beginning to recover from the exhaustion of Broadstairs Folk Week 
followed contiguously by Whitby Folk Week.
                                    
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<shameless, but worthwhile, plug follows>

Did you miss English Week or E&A Week at Pinewoods and the beautiful dances introduced to us by English guest caller Andrew Shaw?

Do you enjoy the music of Jacqueline Schwab, Earl Gaddis, Daron Douglass??

Do you enjoy dancing great dances with great partners in the welcoming social environment that only "Southern hospitality" can provide (we're talking Georgia, USA, here, not Devon, but still...)??

Do you like bargains???

Then you should consider the Atlanta dance week-end September 14 - 16, 2001.  Calling by Gene Murrow, music by the aforementioned notables.  We'll be doing many of the new dances Andrew brought over (we all worked with Andrew at Pinewoods), including several by 18th-century composer Nathaniel Kynaston of "Old Mill/Merry Salopians" fame.  Workshops on Saturday and Sunday, with gala dance party Saturday night.  Lunches and dinners at some of Atlanta's hippest spots.  Check the web site at   userwww.service.emory.edu/~dwoolf/weekend.html

PLUS... with the airfare wars on and the economy tanking, there are several terrific, inexpensive airfare/hotel packages available.  Check   www.expedia.com  or your favorite travel site or agent.  Expedia had 22 (count 'em!) bargain packages available for that week-end including roundtrip airfare and 2 nights in 3-star hotels at astoundingly low prices.  

Back to school?  Fuhgeddaboudit!  Come on down (or over, or up) to Atlanta and join the merry throng...  

Hoping to see you all :-)

Gene Murrow
EC Dancer, Musician, Caller, and enthusiastic supporter of local groups doing great things

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Nicolas Broadbridge wrote

> I learned Orleans Baffled in 1961 at The Round in Cambridge as a
> duple minor,
> and always do it that way: I find the triple minor version tedious by
> comparison.

I too learned it that way although I think that the duple minor version was
only done once or twice as an experiment. I and most of the dancers (except
Nic) preferred the triple minor version. The duple minor version is
extremely "busy" for the 2s and it can be frustrating for the 1s not to find
the 2s ready for the appropriate poussettes in the first part of the dance.

>     Early One Morning by Ernst van Brakel may be found in 'Triple Dutch'
> published by the NVS. It is listed by NVS Shop on the NVS web site.
>     Both it and Scott Higgs' dance of the same title are good
> dances, but if
> memory serves me right, our recording of Scott's dance  (on
> 'Playford from
> the New World') will not work for Ernst's dance, as I think that
> requires two
> B musics, whereas Scott's uses only one.

Nicolas is correct, the musics are not interchangeable.
Ernst's dance is well worth doing.
It can be found on the CD "Dutch Crossing" played by Wild Thyme, details of
which can be found on the NVS website www.nvs-dance.nl

Antony Heywood

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The latest release from the CDS Boston English Country Dance CD Collection
is now available! 

Volume 5 of the series is "At Home", a selection of *22* dances suitable for
a small gathering, such as in your home.

The recording may be obtained from any of the performers (Jacqueline Schwab,
Mary Lea, Earl Gaddis, and Peter Barnes) or the producer (Gene Murrow).  You
may also obtain copies from selected dealers; as of this writing, CDSS has
the item in stock, but AADS and Cotswold Music may be stocking the item.

CONTENTS
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The Astonished Archaeologist
Argeers
Broom, the Bonny Bonny Broom
Chelsea Reach
Epping Forest
Fain I Would
Hunsdon House
Hyde Park
The Installation
Jovial Beggars
Leah's Waltz
Love and a Bottle
Lull Me Beyond Thee
Merry Andrew (I) - lively version (East Coast tempo)
Merry Andrew (II) - stately version (slow West Coast tempo)
Merry, Merry Milkmaids
Mrs. Pomeroy's Pavane
Once A Night
Oxford Circus
Randolph Farewell
Shrewsbury Lasses
Sir Watkin's Jig
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The Folk Arts Center of New England Shop will also carry Volume 5, as it
does all of the CDS Boston collection.  Marcie just placed the shop's
first order for Volume 5, and hopes to sell them all at Labor Day
Weekend at Pinewoods this weekend.

--Deb Karl

"Pearl, Dan" wrote:
> 
> The latest release from the CDS Boston English Country Dance CD Collection
> is now available!
> 
> Volume 5 of the series is "At Home", a selection of *22* dances suitable for
> a small gathering, such as in your home.
> 
> The recording may be obtained from any of the performers (Jacqueline Schwab,
> Mary Lea, Earl Gaddis, and Peter Barnes) or the producer (Gene Murrow).  You
> may also obtain copies from selected dealers; as of this writing, CDSS has
> the item in stock, but AADS and Cotswold Music may be stocking the item.

> Merry Andrew (I) - lively version (East Coast tempo)
> Merry Andrew (II) - stately version (slow West Coast tempo)

and how is it danced in the Midwest?
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For other out-of-towners planning to visit Atlanta for this wonderful event:
the Atlanta Bed and Breakfast agency has gone out of business quite
suddenly, although their website and voicemail are still around. The
voicemail box is full, and messages are NOT being returned. So if you are
planning to stay at one of Atlanta's many delightful bed and breakfast
establishments, make your reservations directly with the owner - the agency
is defunct.

Gene gave well-deserved praise to the Atlanta dance group and to the
musicians, but modestly omitted mention of  his own contributions to this
annual weekend. Gene, your clear instruction, vast knowledge, fresh
approach, and respectful, informal, and humorous  manner are much
appreciated!

Susan Booker


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see comments below....


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Date: 11 August 2001 23:16
Subject: Re: Organising Events eg Halsway


Hi Alan,

Thanks for your reply.

Ref. your £5000 for a marquee. I thought Halsway was an inside venue? Or
is that some other event that you organise?


....Yes Halsway is an inside venue but only for 100 max. we anticipate
haveing 500 so need extra accommodation for punters to view and dance.


Obviously different levels of organisation are required for different
types of event. A week long festival cannot be run on the same lines as
a one evening event .


......AGREED!
Residential and non-residential events will have different criteria on
booking.  Therefore, depending on the type of event it must be easier to
organise some on a very short time scale, and still be successful.

....The problem with this when organising 52 weekends a year is that when
they are all booked up you have to start on the next year etc.  Those who
com along wanting next week are a year too late , usually!!

 The venue, performers (for want of a better word), expected number dancers,
and length of event surely must be the main criteria on how far in the
future an event needs to be booked up.


If all our events are booked up six moinths ahead, then we are winning. The
performers are usually easy to book, the venue is fixed, the weekend lenght
is fixed the capacity of the venue is fixed... we need to book it up and get
the money in as early as possible. (It's a bit like running a pension
fund!!)

So, when I send this I'll have a look at your web site - thanks for the
publicity on Halsway.

Best wishes,
Trev.

......Hi Trev  I hope this is helpful and I hope that the visit to the
halsway website was informative! I just got back from 3 weeks away in
Northumberland and Whitby.

Regards Alan




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Test post.

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Hello Phillippe,

Sorry I haven't answered sooner, but have just got back from Southam.

At first I assumed it was a misprint - but on seeing it used at least 4
times, decided it couldn't be, so thought I'd check before answering.
As I couldn't get through to John, I phoned Jan Dale instead (as the
dance was dedicated to her and John).

She explained that it was not a misprint, but that she, John Stapledon,
Tom Cook etc. have always said "into line right" or "into line left" for
Pat Shaw type siding, and that John has written it, on purpose, as
"interline" (but I don't think we'll find it in any other of his dances,
as he hasn't published that many, and maybe none with siding in!?)

So, yes, it does mean what you thought.

Best wishes,
Trev.



> In John Stapledon's dance "A Pair of Jays", published in Not Quite the
> Same, he uses the term "interline".
>
> Does anyone (Trevor?) know what he means by that? Siding into line?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Philippe Callens







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Hello again Alan,

People were meant to be pointing us out to each other at Whitby - but
looks as if we went to different events!!
Ah well - let's hope Gill and I can get in to Halsway in Feb. and then
I'm sure we'll be able to have a good chat there.

We have only just got back from Whitby & Southam - both of which we
really enjoyed.

Best wishes,
Trev.



> see comments below....
>
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> Ref. your £5000 for a marquee. I thought Halsway was an inside venue?
Or
> is that some other event that you organise?
>
>
> ....Yes Halsway is an inside venue but only for 100 max. we anticipate
> haveing 500 so need extra accommodation for punters to view and dance.
>
>
> Obviously different levels of organisation are required for different
> types of event. A week long festival cannot be run on the same lines
as
> a one evening event .
>
>
> ......AGREED!
> Residential and non-residential events will have different criteria on
> booking.  Therefore, depending on the type of event it must be easier
to
> organise some on a very short time scale, and still be successful.
>
> ....The problem with this when organising 52 weekends a year is that
when
> they are all booked up you have to start on the next year etc.  Those
who
> com along wanting next week are a year too late , usually!!
>
>  The venue, performers (for want of a better word), expected number
dancers,
> and length of event surely must be the main criteria on how far in the
> future an event needs to be booked up.
>
>
> If all our events are booked up six moinths ahead, then we are
winning. The
> performers are usually easy to book, the venue is fixed, the weekend
lenght
> is fixed the capacity of the venue is fixed... we need to book it up
and get
> the money in as early as possible. (It's a bit like running a pension
> fund!!)
>
> So, when I send this I'll have a look at your web site - thanks for
the
> publicity on Halsway.
>
> Best wishes,
> Trev.
>
> ......Hi Trev  I hope this is helpful and I hope that the visit to the
> halsway website was informative! I just got back from 3 weeks away in
> Northumberland and Whitby.
>
> Regards Alan
>




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Well, we were only there on Thursday! but I did catch sight of Alistair
Anderson, John K and Roy Bailey, and Dennis Smith and Sue to speak to, and
Dave Bradley, I saw the inside of his funny cottage! We spent the weekend at
Peterboro' mainly because we could n't camp anywhere much and the folk camp
at Raskelf, nr Thirsk had been cancelled at the late hour due to FMD.
Roll on February!
Regards Alan
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Date: 29 August 2001 21:56
Subject: Re: Organising Events eg Halsway


Hello again Alan,

People were meant to be pointing us out to each other at Whitby - but
looks as if we went to different events!!
Ah well - let's hope Gill and I can get in to Halsway in Feb. and then
I'm sure we'll be able to have a good chat there.

We have only just got back from Whitby & Southam - both of which we
really enjoyed.

Best wishes,
Trev.



> see comments below....
>
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> Ref. your £5000 for a marquee. I thought Halsway was an inside venue?
Or
> is that some other event that you organise?
>
>
> ....Yes Halsway is an inside venue but only for 100 max. we anticipate
> haveing 500 so need extra accommodation for punters to view and dance.
>
>
> Obviously different levels of organisation are required for different
> types of event. A week long festival cannot be run on the same lines
as
> a one evening event .
>
>
> ......AGREED!
> Residential and non-residential events will have different criteria on
> booking.  Therefore, depending on the type of event it must be easier
to
> organise some on a very short time scale, and still be successful.
>
> ....The problem with this when organising 52 weekends a year is that
when
> they are all booked up you have to start on the next year etc.  Those
who
> com along wanting next week are a year too late , usually!!
>
>  The venue, performers (for want of a better word), expected number
dancers,
> and length of event surely must be the main criteria on how far in the
> future an event needs to be booked up.
>
>
> If all our events are booked up six moinths ahead, then we are
winning. The
> performers are usually easy to book, the venue is fixed, the weekend
lenght
> is fixed the capacity of the venue is fixed... we need to book it up
and get
> the money in as early as possible. (It's a bit like running a pension
> fund!!)
>
> So, when I send this I'll have a look at your web site - thanks for
the
> publicity on Halsway.
>
> Best wishes,
> Trev.
>
> ......Hi Trev  I hope this is helpful and I hope that the visit to the
> halsway website was informative! I just got back from 3 weeks away in
> Northumberland and Whitby.
>
> Regards Alan
>




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Hi Trevor
The Andrew Shaw event at Halsway Manor in February 2002 that you refer to,
is organised by Dorothy Jones Tel;0151 3364755
Regards Alan

......Ah well - let's hope Gill and I can get in to Halsway in Feb. and then
I'm sure we'll be able to have a good chat there.



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Deb said 

>> Merry Andrew (I) - lively version (East Coast tempo)
>> Merry Andrew (II) - stately version (slow West Coast tempo)
>
>and how is it danced in the Midwest?

Uh, somewhere in the middle?

Nilos, moderately
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This year's annual dance weekend in Holbrook NSW (Australia) is Fri 28 Sep to Mon 1st Oct over the Labour Day long weekend. There is ECD, Irish, Scottish, Australian and other dancing.

Further details as http://www.DancingTheWeb.com/holbrook

or ring Colin on +61 (03) 9480 5776