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Robin,

I'll be there, and at least two other Belgian dancers and probably more.

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Sharon Green wrote:

>  The single B version of Bellamira is in the Country Dance Book, New
> Series, a book put out by EFDSS.  The double B version folks south of
> Boston tend to dance is Charles Bolton's interpretation, which he
> published in Vol. 1 of his Retreads series.

And even east of NYC, like in Belgium.

Philippe Callens



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rlhayden wrote:
 
> To my utter amazement, I find that I'm going to the Playford conference in
> London in March.  I'd love to know who else from the list is planning to be
> there.

I'm actually able to go.  Got my plane tickets and passport all ready. 
Just need to figure out where I'm staying and how the heck I'm going to
get into and out of my dress Saturday evening.

--Charlene

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For some reason when I try to read the messages from Michael Barraclough the
computer tries to start downloading a program.  Is anyone else having this
experience or know what it's all about?
Thanks,
Dianna

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> For some reason when I try to read the messages from Michael Barraclough
the
> computer tries to start downloading a program.  Is anyone else having this
> experience or know what it's all about?
> Thanks,
> Dianna


Oh dear, we went through all this on the EC mailing list with Michael's
emails.  I still don't know what it is, but we found out how to fix it, at
least if you are using Microsoft Outlook Express:

- Go to Tools / Options and click on the "Read" tab.

- choose "International Settings..."

- check the box next to "Use default encoding for all incoming messages"

- click OK as many times as neccesary

This fixed it for me.



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I believe Sharon is right.

Some years ago I checked with Tom Cook on his four-couple interpretation, before
we published it in our AADS News. Yes, it *is* his interpretation, simply called
Jamaica.

Chris Dewhurst and Sue Stapledon recorded "this version" on their CD Playford Pops
(unfortunately out of print)

It is a fine interpretation, although the double progression longways version has
possibilities, too.

Philippe Callens

Sharon Green wrote:

> The 4-couple Jamaica I've taught is the one I picked up in England when
> Barrie Bullimore was teaching.  It's an adaptation by Tom Cook, and Colin,
> who was with us at the time, said Tom Cook's version is the standard way
> that folks do Jamaica in England.  But it was just called Jamaica, not The
> New Jamaica.
>
> Sharon
>
> At 07:31 AM 1/31/01 -0500, rlhayden wrote:
>
> >Ed Wilfert recently taught The New Jamaica at our Monday dance.  Terrific
> >dance  -- Jamaica adapted into a 4 couple longways.  Ed's notes were
> collected
> >at Pinewoods, directly from Colin, he thinks.  Is this Colin's dance?  It's
> >not in Neil's index, nor in any of Colin's books that we happen to have in
> >stock at CDSS.  Can anyone point me to the directions?
> >
> >[Neil, we hear you have a new edition of the index -- could we have a copy at
> >CDSS?]
> >
> >Robin Hayden
> >
> >

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RE: Playford Conference at Cecil Sharp House, London, March 24-25

I'm honored to be among the speakers... my topic is "Playford in
America," though as an American speaking on English dance to an English
organization, I ought to do "Coals to Newcastle" as a follow-up to
Michael  :-)

Colin Hume, with Andrew Shaw and me, will be doing a "tea dance" to end
the conference on Sunday.  Should be fun.

Air fares to London are very low right now, so if any Americans would
like a good excuse to visit England...

Check www.dhds.org.uk for details.

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Will anyone be speaking at the conference about the music per se -
plenty of
stuff programmed for history and dancing, but not a lot on the dots
themselves?
Paul.

PS Who are the bands?

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Ruth,

On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, CBS/GRIM wrote:

[snip]

> This lurker in the shadows of your list has a request. The "abc" you are 
> referring to - what is it? Is there software (no-one has specified a site 
> or program) or is it a musician's shorthand you need musical knowledge to use?
> 
> If someone would enlighten me I would be very grateful - off-list is OK.

As you may not be the only one unfamiliar with this, abc is a
music-encoding scheme which uses text characters in a fairly transparent
way to describe music.  The notation is simple enough that one can learn
to read and write at least simple tunes without software help.  Numerous,
generally freeware programs have appeared to help convert into and out of
abc.  Output can be turned into MIDI instructions and then played on a
MIDI device, or formatted into more conventional music notation and
printed out, for example.  See

http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/

for starters.  There are lots of sites with tunes encoded in abc available
to download.

Eric Arnold
Ann Arbor, MI, US

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With all the discussion about various music software packages, I haven't seen one thing of interest to me.  How are these packages at outputting the musical notation to a file as a graphics (.gif, .jpg, .bmp format, &c) so that the result can be included in a document or posted up on the web?

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Paul Sartin wrote:

> Will anyone be speaking at the conference about the music per se -
> plenty of
> stuff programmed for history and dancing, but not a lot on the dots
> themselves?
> Paul.
>
> PS Who are the bands?

The Broadside Band will play for the Saturday ball; Orange and Blue for
the tea dance.

Philippe Callens

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On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Ric Goldman wrote:

> With all the discussion about various music software packages, I
> haven't seen one thing of interest to me.  How are these packages at
> outputting the musical notation to a file as a graphics (.gif, .jpg,
> .bmp format, &c) so that the result can be included in a document or
> posted up on the web?

Ric brings up a very relevant point; certainly for information
interchange, this is a potentially-very-useful capability.

I know that Finale has been able to export documents as graphics or EPS
files for some time, and they claim with their current version to be able
to output in a wide variety of formats for inclusion in just about
anything else, including the internet.  Their bottom-of-the-line freebie
F. Notepad also claims to be able to output to the web, and they are
offering a free web plug-in to view these files.  While I'm interested in
that in principle, I'm not actively into that yet so I haven't tested it
to see how well it works or how easy it is to use.  Perhaps someone else
who is more up on this would like to take a look at that aspect and see
what else is offered in this direction?

Eric

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CBS/GRIM writes:
> 
> 
> At 06:02 PM 30/1/01 -0500, you wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 j-sivier-AT-
ux1.cso.uiuc.edu wrote:
> >
> > >    Another aspect of using ABC that is useful (for me) is that since it's
> > > a text file format, you don't need special software to create music files.
> > > Any text editor will do.
> 
> This lurker in the shadows of your list has a request. The "abc" you are 
> referring to - what is it? Is there software (no-one has specified a site 
> or program) or is it a musician's shorthand you need musical knowledge to use?
> 
> If someone would enlighten me I would be very grateful - off-list is OK.

   ABC is a format for encoding music using plain text.  You can find out
more at the following websites:

The abc home page - http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/
ABC Music Notation - http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/doc/ABCtutorial.html
ABC2Win 2.1 Shareware Information - http://www.c7r.com/abc/
NAFA: ABC's - http://www.iland.net/~bshull/NAFA/abccoll.htm
Otter's Links to ABC music sites - http://www.best.com/~otter/abcsites.html
JC's ABC tune finder - http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/findtune.html

   Here is an example of what a tune might look like.  This is the tune for
the cotilion "The Frolic" in the New Harmony "Community Dances, 1826"
manuscript.  There are many other aspects of the tune that can be encoded,
but this is a sort of bare minimum

T:The Frolic
M:2/4
L:1/8
S:Community Dances 1826
P:AABBAABB
K:DMajor
P:A
faaf | gbbg | faaf | e/2f/2g/2e/2 d/2c/2B/2A/2 | faaf | gbbg |
ff/2g/2 ee/2f/2 | d4 :||
P:B
.f.e.d.c | .d.c.B.A | .f.e.d.c | .d.c.B.A | faaf | gbbg |
ff/2g/2 ee/2f/2 | d4 :||

%  ABC2Win Version 2.1 2/1/2001

Jonathan

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I posted the directions for this directly to Robin, who has told me that it is pretty much as she remembers Ed Wilfert's calling of it. For those of you who hoped to find it in the enigmatic "enclosure" at the end of my post to the list, my apologies. That enclosure is a strange Gates artifact  of the Microsoft program "Exchange" which I use. It's benign, contains nothing at all, and does not carry viruses, but embarrasses me every time I forget. In order to avoid it, I must send a new message directly to the list rather than use reply to.

The New Jamaica
(Colin Hume, four couples longways)

A1: First and fourth couples join right hand with partner; also join left hand and change places. Facing neighbors, do the same figure.

B1: Original end couples (now in middle) dance (skipping) a whole figure eight around nearest end couples.

A2: First and second men, and simultaneously, third and fourth men, back to back. Women the same.

B2: Neighbors in middle (first and fourth women, first and fourth men) turn once and a half (both hands, skipping). All turn partners, both hands (once and a half for original ones and fours; once for original twos and threes).

These instructions are from the 1990 Boston Playford Ball booklet. I am currently, thanks to the generosity of several CDS-Boston members, most recently George Fogg, in possession of all of the booklets for the 21 years of the ball's history. A total of 170 dances are included, most (if not all) written in Helene Cornelius's careful style, and many in the later years including valuable information on printed sources. 

Mary Stafford
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I want to point out that this is not Tom Cook's interpretation. Colin, is it yours?

Philippe Callens

Mary Stafford wrote:

> I posted the directions for this directly to Robin, who has told me that it is pretty much as she remembers Ed Wilfert's calling of it. For those of you who hoped to find it in the enigmatic "enclosure" at the end of my post to the list, my apologies. That enclosure is a strange Gates artifact  of the Microsoft program "Exchange" which I use. It's benign, contains nothing at all, and does not carry viruses, but embarrasses me every time I forget. In order to avoid it, I must send a new message directly to the list rather than use reply to.
>
> The New Jamaica
> (Colin Hume, four couples longways)
>
> A1: First and fourth couples join right hand with partner; also join left hand and change places. Facing neighbors, do the same figure.
>
> B1: Original end couples (now in middle) dance (skipping) a whole figure eight around nearest end couples.
>
> A2: First and second men, and simultaneously, third and fourth men, back to back. Women the same.
>
> B2: Neighbors in middle (first and fourth women, first and fourth men) turn once and a half (both hands, skipping). All turn partners, both hands (once and a half for original ones and fours; once for original twos and threes).
>
> These instructions are from the 1990 Boston Playford Ball booklet. I am currently, thanks to the generosity of several CDS-Boston members, most recently George Fogg, in possession of all of the booklets for the 21 years of the ball's history. A total of 170 dances are included, most (if not all) written in Helene Cornelius's careful style, and many in the later years including valuable information on printed sources.
>
> Mary Stafford
> Allston, MA

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On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Ric Goldman wrote:

> With all the discussion about various music software packages, I haven't
> seen one thing of interest to me.  How are these packages at outputting the
> musical notation to a file as a graphics (.gif, .jpg, .bmp format, &c) so
> that the result can be included in a document or posted up on the web?

One way to approach that is to use a screen-capture program.  There are
bunches of them available for free from all the usual places.  Just put
your music up on the screen in whatever editor you're using and snag the
image with the capture program.  Funky but effective, and not the worst
idea in the world if it means the difference between being able to use a
freeware package and having to pay multiple hundreds of dollars for Finale
or something.

As far as that goes, if you have multiple hundreds of dollars you're
willing to part with, you could spend them on Adobe Publisher, and then you
can create a PDF file from any program that has a print function.  PDF is
nearly as universally readable as GIF and JPEG these days.

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--- Jon Berger <jberger-AT-
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> As far as that goes, if you have multiple hundreds of dollars
> you're willing to part with, you could spend them on Adobe 
> Publisher, and then you can create a PDF file from any program

> that has a print function.  PDF is nearly as universally 
> readable as GIF and JPEG these days.
> 

But, you don't have to spend that multiple hundreds of dollars
to be able to read PDF files. You can download Adobe Acrobat
Reader for free.

Andy

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<<For some reason when I try to read the messages from Michael Barraclough
the
computer tries to start downloading a program.  Is anyone else having this
experience or know what it's all about?>>

It's happening to me to; the computer wants to download Arabic
character-sets or some such. It's still possible to read the messages, but
it messes up the computer until you close Michael's message.

Peace,
Paul



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For those curious about the Tom Cook interpretation, here's what's
scribbled on my card.  Friends across the pond, please correct any
egregious errors--
Sharon


Jamaica	4 cu set, 3's & 4's Improper	10xAB	Tom Cook interpretation

Introduction
A.	1-4	Up a double & back
	5-8	That again
B	1-4	Set & turn S
	5-8	That again

Figure
A	1-4	Ends take R-h, L-h; 2-h turn 1/2-way to face neighbors
	5-8	Neighbors take R-h, L-h; 2-h turn 1/2-way		[Finish close to partner]
B	1-4	Lines of 4 fall back a double and come forward
	5-8	Actives [original ends] 1/2 figure 8 out through nearest end couple
A	1-4	Active men, back to back
	5-8	Active women, back to back
B	1-4	Active neighbors, 2-h turn 1 & 1/2x (sk)
	5-8	Active partners, 2-h turn 1/2-way & fall back

Repeat figure 3x

Repeat Introduction



At 05:23 PM 2/1/01 +0100, Philippe Callens wrote:
>I want to point out that this is not Tom Cook's interpretation. Colin, is it 
>yours?
>
>Philippe Callens

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> --- Jon Berger <jberger-AT-
monitor.net> wrote:
> > As far as that goes, if you have multiple hundreds of dollars
> > you're willing to part with, you could spend them on Adobe
> > Publisher, and then you can create a PDF file from any program

> > that has a print function.  PDF is nearly as universally
> > readable as GIF and JPEG these days.
> >

> But, you don't have to spend that multiple hundreds of dollars
> to be able to read PDF files. You can download Adobe Acrobat
> Reader for free.


True, but Jon was talking about _creating_ the PDF file, which does
cost money if you use the Adobe tools. 

-- Alan

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1) fiddle
2) fiddle and piano (or harpsichord)
3) fiddle, piano, flute

Reasons: read Larry Stout's answer.  There's nothing I would add to it.

Pat

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Subject: musical intruments


Hello from Vancouver {Surrey}!
Would any of you like to answer my question, teachers, students and
musicians.
Money no object {ya  right}
I love all the musical instruments I have heard played for ECD, but
what would your musical instrument preference be for each of these if
you needed 1 musician, 2 musicians , 3 musicians or 4 musicians etc. for
classes? Would you give reasons to your choice.
What musical instruments do you like for a ball or social dance?
Thank you! Answer to the list or email me privately would be welcomed.
Cheers Marie






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On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Andrew Peterson wrote:

> --- Jon Berger <jberger-AT-
monitor.net> wrote:
> > As far as that goes, if you have multiple hundreds of dollars
> > you're willing to part with, you could spend them on Adobe 
> > Publisher, and then you can create a PDF file from any program
> 
> > that has a print function.  PDF is nearly as universally 
> > readable as GIF and JPEG these days.
> > 
> 
> But, you don't have to spend that multiple hundreds of dollars
> to be able to read PDF files. You can download Adobe Acrobat
> Reader for free.

That's true.  But you do have to spend money on Adobe Publisher if you
want to create PDFs, which was my point.

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Thnaks Gene for the "Let's go to England" plug! I am looking forward to
meeting you when you visit Halsway Manor later in your advertised tour, for
your weekend calling with Colin Hume. Now, that is going to be something
really special and memorable, I promise you.
Just have a look at the pic of Halsway Manor, how can you resist it !
.www.halswaymanor.co.uk
Best Wishes
Alan Corkett

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To: ECD-AT-
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Date: 01 February 2001 12:12
Subject: Re: Playford conference


RE: Playford Conference at Cecil Sharp House, London, March 24-25

I'm honored to be among the speakers... my topic is "Playford in
America," though as an American speaking on English dance to an English
organization, I ought to do "Coals to Newcastle" as a follow-up to
Michael  :-)

Colin Hume, with Andrew Shaw and me, will be doing a "tea dance" to end
the conference on Sunday.  Should be fun.

Air fares to London are very low right now, so if any Americans would
like a good excuse to visit England...

Check www.dhds.org.uk for details.

Gene
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:49:34 -0800 (PST) Jon Berger <jberger-AT-
monitor.net>
writes:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Mary Beth Goodman wrote:
> 
> > At 9:58 PM -0600 1/31/01, Larry Stout wrote:

> Eentsy teensy 16th-century fiddle, also known as a dancing master's 
> fiddle,
> or pochette (presumably from the dancing masters' habit of carrying 
> the
> thing in their pockets, which strikes me as a terrible idea, but I 
> guess
> cases were expensive back then).  

Kits were also made in the 17th & 18th centuries. And back then, guys'
coats had much bigger pockets. I don't know where you live, but if you're
anywhere near New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art, you might want to
check out their instrument collection--there are a number of
kits/pochettes on display, including one designed to fit inside a walking
stick!

Dawn Culbertson
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On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Dawn C. Culbertson wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:49:34 -0800 (PST) Jon Berger <jberger-AT-
monitor.net>
> writes:
> > On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Mary Beth Goodman wrote:
> > 
> > > At 9:58 PM -0600 1/31/01, Larry Stout wrote:
> 
> > Eentsy teensy 16th-century fiddle, also known as a dancing master's 
> > fiddle,
> > or pochette (presumably from the dancing masters' habit of carrying 
> > the
> > thing in their pockets, which strikes me as a terrible idea, but I 
> > guess
> > cases were expensive back then).  
> 
> Kits were also made in the 17th & 18th centuries. And back then, guys'
> coats had much bigger pockets. 

I gather they're also made in the 21st century, since Larry apparently
makes them.  

My qualms about the pockets had to do with the lack of protection they
afford, not their size; I'd pretty much assumed that the pocket was big
enough to accommodate the instrument, since I wasn't envisioning someone
breaking his kit into pieces every time he wanted to put it away.  I
imagine, however, that historical pockets were made of cloth, just like
modern pockets.  I'd be pretty hesitant to carry my fiddle around in a
cloth sack, whether or not attached to my clothing.

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On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Dawn C. Culbertson wrote:

> 
> 
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:49:34 -0800 (PST) Jon Berger <jberger-AT-
monitor.net>
> writes:
> > On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Mary Beth Goodman wrote:
> > 
> > > At 9:58 PM -0600 1/31/01, Larry Stout wrote:
> 
> > Eentsy teensy 16th-century fiddle, also known as a dancing master's 
> > fiddle,
> > or pochette (presumably from the dancing masters' habit of carrying 
> > the
> > thing in their pockets, which strikes me as a terrible idea, but I 
> > guess
> > cases were expensive back then).  
> 
> Kits were also made in the 17th & 18th centuries. And back then, guys'
> coats had much bigger pockets. I don't know where you live, but if you're
> anywhere near New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art, you might want to
> check out their instrument collection--there are a number of
> kits/pochettes on display, including one designed to fit inside a walking
> stick!

For a picture including a rather early kit, check out:

http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/art/c/costa/concert.jpg

Eric

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In a message dated 2/1/01 7:00:48 AM, barbararuth-AT-
rocketmail.com writes:

>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:28:31 -0800 (PST)
>From: Barbara Ruth <>
>Subject: Re: Playford conference
>Message-ID: <20010131152831.22347.qmail-AT-
web1603.mail.yahoo.com>
>
>--- rlhayden <rlhayden-AT-
amherst.edu> wrote:
>
>> Robin Hayden, looking forward to settling the question of her
>> gender once and 
>> for all
>
>Robin, I hate to be the one to point this out, but if you haven't
>figured it out by now, it's probably too late.
>;)

Yes, well, unless she wants to move to San Francisco, where we got more 
gender options that Carter's got little liver pills, come to find out.....

Nilos, who to her own astonishment is experiencing a wee bit of culture 
shock.  
PS Stay tuned for Gender-Randomized Calling
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In a message dated 1/2/01 3:00:48 pm, system-AT-
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writes:

>Will anyone be speaking at the conference about the music per se -
>plenty of
>stuff programmed for history and dancing, but not a lot on the dots
>themselves?
>Paul.
>
>PS Who are the bands?
Yes, Aidan and I are doing a "Playing for Playford" workshop at the 
Conference. (This gives us the chance to meet people such as Robin - who he? 
- Hayden, until now just a name: this will be GOOD.)
The Band on Saturday night is The Broadside Band (led by Jeremy Barlow); and 
the Band for the tea dance on Sunday is Orange and Blue.
                                                Nicolas B., Lanark, Scotland.
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Ric Goldman wrote:  

>With all the discussion about various music software packages, I haven't 
>seen one thing of interest to me.  How are these packages at outputting 
>the musical notation to a file as a graphics (.gif, .jpg, .bmp format, &c) 
>so that the result can be included in a document or posted up on the web?

That's just what NoteWriter does.

Roger Diggle

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Gene Murrow wrote:
> 
> RE: Playford Conference at Cecil Sharp House, London, March 24-25
> 
> Air fares to London are very low right now, so if any Americans would
> like a good excuse to visit England...

Well, Gene, it doesn't take much arm-twisting for me, so I'm now
checking airfares!  Such a fine list of attendees at the conference, how
could I miss it??!

Stephanie
Bethesda, MD
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Subject: that Gene gets around!
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couldn't resist posting this to the list, nabbed on rec-folk-dancing 
newsgroup.  But Gene, isn't that NEFFA weekend?

Mary Beth=======================


>  From: trio-AT-
euronet.nl (Donna Richoux)
>  Subject: English Country Dance day in Belgium
>  Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:25:32 +0100
>  Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
>  Message-ID: <1eo653o.e1jtgz1599vurN%trio-AT-
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>
>  I just received this announcement from the folks at AADS in Belgium.
>
>  From: "AADS" <aads.vzw-AT-
pandora.be>
>  Subject: SPRING WORKSHOP
>  Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001
>
>  Spring Workshop
>  English Country dances
>  featuring: Gene Murrow & Belshazzar's Feast
>
>  MALLE [east of Antwerp]  April 22, 2001
>
>
>  For this workshop AADS invited Gene Murrow, who lives near New York
>  (USA), but nonetheless teaches English country dances. He is also an
>  excellent musician, playing the recorder, oboe and concertina. Gene is
>  interested in newly made dances, and during teaching likes to focus on
>  the musical aspect. The English duo Belshazzar's Feast will provide live
>  music. Paul Hutchinson plays the accordion and Paul Sartin plays violin
>  and oboe. Excitement and humour guaranteed!
>
>  Given the nature of the workshop participants should be familiar with
>  the basics of English country dancing. You can bring your own lunch, or
>  you can order a meal (soup, main course, dessert, water, coffee).
>  Vegetarian meals are available. Please indicate your choice on the
>  subscription form.
>
>  VENUE
>  Provinciaal Vormingscentrum (PVC), Smekenstraat 61, 2390 Malle, Belgium.
>
>  WHEN
>  Sunday, 22 April 2001, from 10.45 am till 5.00 pm. Coffee and tea will
>  be served at 10 am.
>
>  COURSE FEE
>  BEF 700. This includes the course fee and coffee/tea in the morning and
>  the afternoon.
>  Meal (non-vegetarian): BEF 345.
>  Meal (vegetarian): BEF 405.
>
>  REGISTRATION
>  Registration in advance (before April 8, 2001) is absolutely necessary:
>  return the registration form to the AADS office and make a deposit to
>  one of our accounts (please mention the course number C2180). Your
>  registration is only valid when the AADS has received your payment.
>  Before that your registration is on a waiting list. There will be no
>  confirmation.
>
>  MAX. 50 PARTICIPANTS !
>  Registration:
>  You should register for courses at least a fortnight before the start of
>  the course, either written or by telephone.
>
>
>  Payment:
>
>  Registration for weekends and weeks should be accompanied by a transfer
>  of the course fee to one of the following bank accounts:
>  - Belgium: 001-2185402-68
>  - The Netherlands: Postbank 7417007
>  - United Kingdom: HSBC, ME 14 1HX
>     40-31-06 31756710   (make checks payable to Luc Blancke)
>  - Germany: Postbank Ludwigshafen
>     2264 87-675 (BLZ 545 100 67)
>  Additional bank charges are at your expense. Please mention the course
>  reference number C2180.
>
>  Your registration is only valid when the AADS has received your payment.
>  Before that your registration is on a waiting list. Payment on arrival
>  only for other countries than Belgium, the Netherlands, United Kingdom
>  and Germany.
>
>  Cancellation: If you cancel until 2 weeks before the start
>  of the course your payment minus 10% is refunded. If you cancel within a
>  fortnight before the start of the course the amount minus 15% costs is
>  refunded. If you do not cancel in advance there is no refund.
>
>
>
>  AADS               Course C2180
>  Spring Workshop
>  REGISTRATION FORM
>
>  Name:
>
>  Address:
>
>
>  Phone:
>
>  Other adults:
>
>  adults x 700 BEF                     =
>  meals (non veg.) x 345 BEF      =
>  meals (veg.)  x  405  BEF          =
>  Total           BEF
>  Payment:        o  cheque enclosed
>                          o  deposit
>                          o  on arrival (only from countries other than
>  Belgium, the Netherlands,  United Kingdom and Germany)
>  Date:
>
>
>  Anglo-American Dance Service vzw
>  Resedastraat 8
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now, Michael if you care to send a test message for us :-)
Dianna

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>
> > For some reason when I try to read the messages from Michael Barraclough
> the
> > computer tries to start downloading a program.  Is anyone else having
this
> > experience or know what it's all about?
> > Thanks,
> > Dianna
>
>
> Oh dear, we went through all this on the EC mailing list with Michael's
> emails.  I still don't know what it is, but we found out how to fix it, at
> least if you are using Microsoft Outlook Express:
>
> - Go to Tools / Options and click on the "Read" tab.
>
> - choose "International Settings..."
>
> - check the box next to "Use default encoding for all incoming messages"
>
> - click OK as many times as neccesary
>
> This fixed it for me.
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>
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> Ron H
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I feel obliged to mention that my version of Bellamira (published in
"Playford with a Difference" also has two B's.

Colin Hume
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I'll be there, giving a paper, and also doing some of the calling for the
Saturday Evening Ball (with the Broadside Band) and the Sunday Afternoon
Dance (with the Orange and Blue).

Colin Hume
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>From: rlhayden <rlhayden-AT-
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Ed Wilfert recently taught The New Jamaica at our Monday dance.  Terrific
dance  -- Jamaica adapted into a 4 couple longways.  Ed's notes were
collected at Pinewoods, directly from Colin, he thinks.  Is this Colin's
dance?  It's not in Neil's index, nor in any of Colin's books that we
happen to have in stock at CDSS.  Can anyone point me to the directions?
<

It's not my dance; it's the version by Tom Cook.  In England it's become
the standard version; it's well-known, and if a caller said "Let's do
Jamaica" many dancers would form four couple sets without being told.  I
was surprised to discover that it was unknown in the States.  If Tom had
published it I'd suggest you buy the book, but since he hasn't, here are
the instructions:


Jamaica

4 Couples longways     3 & 4 improper     10 x Own tune (16 bar reel)

Beginning and End:

A:     Up a double and back.  That again.
B:     Set and turn single.  That again.

Progressive figure, 4 times through (8 times through the tune):

A1:    Ends give right hands, give left; turn partner half-way.  Same with
neighbour, finishing close to partner.

B1:    Lines fall back a double; lead forward.  Actives (original ends)
half figure eight through nearer end.

A2:    Active men back-to-back.  Active ladies back-to-back.

B2:    Same four two-hand turn active neighbour one and a half (skip
change).  Same four  turn partner half-way and fall back slightly.

John Playford -- Dancing Master 4th Ed, 1670 / Tom Cook

Colin Hume
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Yes, Sharon is correct with her notation for the Tom Cook's version of
Jamaica.

However, some of us do not understand why he turned into a 4 couple
dance in the first place. The 4 couple version is generally the one most
people know on this side of the Pond but some of us call the longways
version out of preference.

Graham


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Wendy and I will be there, especially since Wendy is on the Committee!!

Graham

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NEFFA Weekend is April 20-22, 2001.  There is no conflict with the Playford
Conference, which is March 24-25
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At 10:16 AM 2/2/01 -0500, Pearl, Dan wrote:
>NEFFA Weekend is April 20-22, 2001.  There is no conflict with the Playford
>Conference, which is March 24-25

Yes, but there is a conflict with Gene's weekend gig with Belshazzar's
Feast in Belgium on  April 22.
Too much good stuff going on across that pond, darn it!
Sharon

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More & more interesting...  So who wrote the 4-cu New Jamaica that Mary
Stafford found in the 1990 Boston Ball booklet, the one with the full
figure-8s?  That one looked like a lot of fun, and very much in the Boston
mode (when in doubt, skip...).  Mary, Helene, Chris, any info?

And Robin, which dance was it that Ed Wilfert taught?

Love to all,
Sharon

At 07:13 AM 2/2/01 -0500, Colin Hume wrote:
>>From: rlhayden <rlhayden-AT-
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>Ed Wilfert recently taught The New Jamaica at our Monday dance. 

>It's not my dance; it's the version by Tom Cook.  In England it's become
>the standard version; it's well-known, and if a caller said "Let's do
>Jamaica" many dancers would form four couple sets without being told.  I
>was surprised to discover that it was unknown in the States.  If Tom had
>published it I'd suggest you buy the book, but since he hasn't, here are
>the instructions:
>
>
>Jamaica
>
>4 Couples longways     3 & 4 improper     10 x Own tune (16 bar reel)
>
>Beginning and End:
>
>A:     Up a double and back.  That again.
>B:     Set and turn single.  That again.
>
>Progressive figure, 4 times through (8 times through the tune):
>
>A1:    Ends give right hands, give left; turn partner half-way.  Same with
>neighbour, finishing close to partner.
>
>B1:    Lines fall back a double; lead forward.  Actives (original ends)
>half figure eight through nearer end.
>
>A2:    Active men back-to-back.  Active ladies back-to-back.
>
>B2:    Same four two-hand turn active neighbour one and a half (skip
>change).  Same four  turn partner half-way and fall back slightly.
>
>John Playford -- Dancing Master 4th Ed, 1670 / Tom Cook
>
>Colin Hume

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Hi Friends,
  The Pineland Country Dancers, my mom, and my family are hosting a ECD on March 10th to celebrate Mae Ann Senior's birthday (my mother).  The Dance will be held in a large space in Delran, NJ.  (South Central NJ, just East of Philadelphia, 1.5 hrs drive from NYC)
   Jacqueline Schwab, Earl Gaddis, and Mary Lee will provide the music.
   The dances will be prompted by Scott Higgs and myself (Tom Senior).  We will have fine dances, fine music, and a wonderful time.  Dinner is available. 
    For information, a list of dances, (and instructions if you wish)  or to receive a flier, contact Mae Ann:

   email:   MAEANNSR-AT-
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Phone:  856 - 779-9084

Address:  919 E. Main St.     Maple Shade, NJ     08052

Hope to see many of you there,



Thomas J. Senior
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What a lovely idea and what a lovely invitation.  Thank you so much for
telling us all about it.  I hope many of us can come and honor Mae Ann at
this bash!

Emily L. Ferguson
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Sharon wrote:

>Jamaica (...)
>
>Figure
>A	1-4	Ends take R-h, L-h; (...)
>	5-8	Neighbors take R-h, L-h; ...

Please enlighten me:
What do you do with the hands (or with each other) having taken them?
Martin,
 in Grenoble, France.

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<<I feel obliged to mention that my version of Bellamira (published in
"Playford with a Difference" also has two B's.>>

Bbellamira?

Peace,
Paul



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>Sharon wrote:
>
>>Jamaica (...)
>>
>>Figure
>>A	1-4	Ends take R-h, L-h; (...)
>>	5-8	Neighbors take R-h, L-h; ...
>
>Please enlighten me:
>What do you do with the hands (or with each other) having taken them?

Hang on until you're ready to turn with crossed hand.  Just stand there
clasping first one hand and then the next, don't move until the music tells
you to.

It's not a large movement, but it's fun to make a little something of it -
either making an offering motion at the moment that you both put out your
hands, or some sort of other motion that gets the focus on the hands
deliberately joining.  However, it's always very nice to keep the motion
rhythmical - join Rs (rest), join Ls (rest), lift up your energy level and
turn.

Personally, the showoff methods like slapping the hands together at the
moment you join them, just really turn me off.

There's something deliberate and sedate about the movment.

Oh, goodie.  Here comes the FedEx man with my RAM and CD Burner!!!!

Emily L. Ferguson
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On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Emily L. Ferguson wrote:

[snip}

> Oh, goodie.  Here comes the FedEx man with my RAM and CD Burner!!!!

What -- they even go out _THERE_????!!

Eric

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:58 PM

<<I've recently seen some positive reviews and discussion of "Igor
Engraver",
from Noteheads (http://www.noteheads.com), with some favorable comparisons
with Finale.  It is freeware, currently available on the Mac, with a
recently
announced beta for Windows.>>

Looking at their website, I discover that the Windows version was demoed at
the winter NAMM show a few weeks ago, but it doesn't seem to be available
yet. They do have a Windows Igor Engraver reader available, though.

Peace,
Paul


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On Fri, 02 Feb 2001 13:01:25 -0500 "Emily L. Ferguson" <elf-AT-
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writes:
> Oh, goodie.  Here comes the FedEx man with my RAM and CD Burner!!!!

So, Emily, you're burning your money and living just off your sheep, eh?

Gene

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>So, Emily, you're burning your money and living just off your sheep, eh?

Naw.  The fleece is in a box on the front porch waiting for the birds to
build nests in spring, tra la, and the RAM arrived and I INSTALLED IT, ALL
BY MYSELF!!!!!!!

And the Apple System Profiler says it's there!!!!

Now to run the RAM test on restart and see whether that cut-rate RAM is as
good as though I'd bought it from Apple!!

:-)))

Emily L. Ferguson
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Eric Arnold asked:
"When did the term "poussette" come into usage in this context?  Does Essex
use it in his translation of the French manuals?  (Did we have this
discussion before?)"

The Strathspey List also is discussing the poussette.  The unedited message
below is forwarded with kind permission of its author, Richard Goss.

Pat

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From: Richard Goss [mailto:richard.n.goss-AT-
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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:35 PM
To: Benjamin Stein; strathspey-AT-
tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de
Subject: Re: poussette


Sometimes taking a dance term back to its original language can be
misleading as this method causes one to skip over the history of the word
between the original use and the present one.

The OED indicates that as an English word, Poussette from the French means
"to dance round and round with hands joined, as a couple in a country
dance."
-----
The examples given also provide our date for its original use as a dance
term in GB.

1812: Dance Regan! dance, whth Cordelia and Goneril -- Down the middle, up
again, poussette and cross.
1814: Seeing the pretty tremble of her eyelids in a <P>.
1830: The mazes of poussette and right and left.
1839: The motley crowd was happy -- poussetted, chassied [usu. down the
middle & back using slip step], and performed feats.
1847: They gave a rapid poussette like the top and bottom people in Sir
Roger de Coverley [in this case a two handed turn].
1862: The pains he took with her elegant pirouettings and poussettings.
1873: Europe was little edified to see the dance set up by the two aged
popes who poussetted to each other about France and Italy.
-----
The key part of the definition for purposes of making my point is the
dancing "round and round with hands joined." Note, this does not say whether
there are 2 or 4 hands involved as this would allow one arm around the waist
with 2 hands joined as in ballroom position or 2x2 hands joined as with the
RSCDS. The only evidence indicating that this was <<THE>> method comes from
the Blantyre MS which has as much global significance as one of us taking
class notes at a particular time and place -- very rural, conservative as
opposed to urban and continental (the Waltz was already supplanting the
minuet by 1802.

If one looks at the original notes and scores to the RSCDS dances one will
notice that, in the original, there is one poussette, that which we call the
"alround poussette" of which there is a version that only goes half way, our
half poussette. However, what we call the poussette [8 bars] was originally
either an alround pousette in 8 bars, or a half pousette in 4 bars.

From a historical perspective, the poussette was the transitional figure
between the formation country dance and the couple dance of the 19c
ballroom. In the later period,
and leading up to the beginning of the RSCDS, it was done as a waltz (3/4)
or a polka (2/4 or 6/8), depending on the tempo. If one looks at the RSCDS
version from a distance one
will see the following clues to its origins: 1. it is a progression round
the set [ballroom] in an anticlockwise direction as the couples themselves
rotate clockwise, 2. Miss M, for no artistic or choreographic reason that I
can see, insisted that the man changes feet at both ends of the phrase.

As far as I can tell, this had never occurred in any traditional country
dance, prior to Miss M, but was necessary in ball room dances. One RSCDS
traditional reason was given that in this way the man would not step on his
partner's foot. But the Society uses a pas-de-basque step which is also not
traditional, as the current version outwith the Society and in the late 19c,
was a polka step, where this would be necessary. But if one uses the
pas-de-basque and maintains the correct placement of the feet on will be
stricking one's partner's extensions on the jete' at the end of each bar:
e.g. if two dancers, close enough to be holding hands each extend a foot
(man's right, lady's left) into third intermediate aerial low, at a 45
degree angle from the body's orientation, they will collide.

Further evidence of the asynchronicity of this (to be redundant) quijotic
activity can be seen in how our dances were changed from the original notes
right from the beginning:

Petronella with "down & back, poussette" was 1s (sometimes with 2s also)
down and back to second place, poussette with the couple above them. If ones
are in 2s place and they do
our poussette, they will have canceled the progression, but if an alround
poussette, or 2s & 1s polka round each other, the progression is maintained.
An alternate method is to finish the "petronella" figure in 2s place, then
both couple go down and back to end, the couples doing a "two step waltz"
around each other.

This will be found true with all subsequent RSCDS dances as, once our
"poussette" was defined, the Society either made later dances into their
pattern, used a half poussette,
their own all round poussette.


>From the Larousse Dictionary:
>
> poussette(f)...go-cart,; pushchair, stroller (Am)
>
> In other words, the shape of the figure, hand-hold, and body positions are
very descriptive of either a pushchair (I am making the jump to think that
this is one of those old-fashioned chairs-on-wheels, sort of an early
wheel-chair) or stroller for children.  I understand that this use of the
word is only common in France (not in Quebec, for  example) and is
considered old-fashioned....
>
> Adriana Linden
> Montreal, Qc

Thank you Adriana. This really makes the specifics of the figure much more
understandable, both in the English (earlier) and the Scottish (later)
versions. It is interesting that in "Won't You Join the Dance" (which I
believe was written by Miss Milligan, though not formally attributed to her)
the Pousette is described the "old" way, that is the
couples dancing round each other to change places. Evidently the detailed
version we now
dance came later.

Ben Stein

>

Goss
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--- Paul Stamler <pstamler-AT-
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Colin Hume <100116.165-AT-
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> 
> <<I feel obliged to mention that my version of Bellamira (published
> in
> "Playford with a Difference" also has two B's.>>
> 
> Bbellamira?
 

So, two B's, or not two B's?
That is the question.

Barbara (2Bs but not next to each other)

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For those of us who (sigh) won't be there, will the papers be published for
us to read?

Pat

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Wendy and I will be there, especially since Wendy is on the Committee!!

Graham


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Sharon-

Helene, who is usually meticulous, credited it to Colin Hume. Colin, I know you disclaimed any credit for the "other" New Jamaica, but can you set us straight on this?

Mary

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--- "Emily L. Ferguson" <elf-AT-
cape.com> wrote:
>Gene Murrow wrote:
> >So, Emily, you're burning your money and living just off your
> >sheep, eh?
> 
> Naw.  The fleece is in a box on the front porch waiting for
> the birds to build nests in spring, tra la, and the RAM
arrived 
> and I INSTALLED IT, ALL BY MYSELF!!!!!!!
> 

And just where did you install that RAM, Emily? Gene was talking
sheep here...

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--- Sharon Green <mls-AT-
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> At 10:16 AM 2/2/01 -0500, Pearl, Dan wrote:
> >NEFFA Weekend is April 20-22, 2001.  There is no conflict
> >with the Playford Conference, which is March 24-25
> 
> Yes, but there is a conflict with Gene's weekend gig with
> Belshazzar's Feast in Belgium on  April 22.
> Too much good stuff going on across that pond, darn it!
> Sharon
> 

But the swim is much longer across the pond than to Natick.

Andy

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>And Robin, which dance was it that Ed Wilfert taught?

It was the version that Mary posted, the one that begins more or less like the 
longways.  I think we're stymied here until we hear from our sources.  Oh, 
Helene!  Colin?  Quick, before speculation proliferates into lore!


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The week long festival on Jane Austen (about everything you can think of 
including movies and the directors, actors), etc. etc. will be held in 
Madison, Wisconsin April 20-29.

Of interest to the English Country dance community

On Monday April 23, the Madison English Country Dancers will host a 
teaching/refreshers session.

On Saturday April 28,  is a dance/concert with Boston musicians and 
recording artists,  Jacqueline Schwab and Earl Gaddis of Bare Necessities 
with Daron Douglas
Music, dancing and refreshments.
Monona Terrace, downtown Madison (8 p.m.) $10

On  Sunday April 29
A Celebration of Jane Austen
Emily Auerbach, narration; Sybil Robinson, readings;
Amy McFarland, piano; Maria Terres, fiddle:
with English country dancers,
Stoughton Opera House, 381 E. Main St., Stoughton (7:30 p.m.) $10

Check out the website for detailed schedule, and registration forms

http://www.humanities.wisc.edu/festival/introduction.html

Mike Mudrey
106 Ravine Road
Mount Horeb, WI53572-1930
608-437-3701

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In a message dated 3/2/01 3:00:49 pm, Emily writes:

>The fleece is in a box on the front porch waiting for the birds to
>build nests in spring, tra la, and the RAM arrived and I INSTALLED IT,
>ALL
>BY MYSELF!!!!!!!
>
>And the Apple System Profiler says it's there!!!!
>
>Now to run the RAM test on restart and see whether that cut-rate RAM is
>as
>good as though I'd bought it from Apple!!

Glad to hear of at least one sane Apple person across the pond!
                                                            Nicolas.
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At 7:02 PM -0500 2/3/01, SallenNic-AT-
aol.com wrote:
>Glad to hear of at least one sane Apple person across the pond!


Make that two - also with a heap o'Ram and a fairly recent CD burner. 
Love mine -- just used it to prepare a "portfolio" of web pages/sites 
for a job interview.  Remember when portfolios were black leather 
things?  I felt very tech-able when I handed this CEO my disk.

Anyhoo, working away on my G3 laptop, alongside a G4.

Mary Beth <-- macs rule!
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At 09:59 AM 1/2/01 -0600, you wrote:
>CBS/GRIM writes:
> >
> > This lurker in the shadows of your list has a request. The "abc" you are
> > referring to - what is it? Is there software (no-one has specified a site
> > or program) or is it a musician's shorthand you need musical knowledge 
> to use?
> >
> > If someone would enlighten me I would be very grateful - off-list is OK.
>
>    ABC is a format for encoding music using plain text.  You can find out
>more at the following websites: (and many other responses)

Thank you all for the response and information - I appreciate the attention 
my question has been given by you all. The on-line ECD community has 
fulfilled my expectations and not only with directions to the information I 
sought!

After a year of receiving the list's correspondence, I can tell how much 
enjoyment you all get from ECD - and each other. I have come to know the 
group a little, and enhanced my scant knowledge of the dances. The on-line 
atmosphere is warm and supportive, just as it was in my brief brush with 
ECD folk here in Australia.

Since there is no ECD to speak of in my city, my experience has been 
limited to two weekends of "workshops" - firstly as an elective at a 
special interest conference I attended a few years ago - I was immediately 
hooked - and then one run by a visiting tutor, attended by (mostly) SCD 
enthusiasts (and I'm not yet a participant in that genre, either, although 
it's much more available here in Brisbane).

So thanks again for your help. I will soon be tootling tunes on my 
recorder, I'm sure - everyone has said how simple the abc method is! I have 
high hopes ... and now I will return to lurking round the doorway of the 
dance hall, peeking in with envy at you folk who are lucky enough to have 
someone to dance with!

Regards,

Ruth Grim.

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<font size=3>At 09:59 AM 1/2/01 -0600, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite>CBS/GRIM writes:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; This lurker in the shadows of your list has a request. The
&quot;abc&quot; you are <br>
&gt; referring to - what is it? Is there software (no-one has specified a
site <br>
&gt; or program) or is it a musician's shorthand you need musical
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&gt; <br>
&gt; If someone would enlighten me I would be very grateful - off-list is
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Thank you all for the response and information - I appreciate the
attention my question has been given by you all. The on-line ECD
community has fulfilled my expectations and not only with directions to
the information I sought! <br>
<br>
After a year of receiving the list's correspondence, I can tell how much
enjoyment you all get from ECD - and each other. I have come to know the
group a little, and enhanced my scant knowledge of the dances. The
on-line atmosphere is warm and supportive, just as it was in my brief
brush with ECD folk here in Australia.<br>
<br>
Since there is no ECD to speak of in my city, my experience has been
limited to two weekends of &quot;workshops&quot; - firstly as an elective
at a special interest conference I attended a few years ago - I was
immediately hooked - and then one run by a visiting tutor, attended by
(mostly) SCD enthusiasts (and I'm not yet a participant in that genre,
either, although it's much more available here in Brisbane).<br>
<br>
So thanks again for your help. I will soon be tootling tunes on my
recorder, I'm sure - everyone has said how simple the abc method is! I
have high hopes ... and now I will return to lurking round the doorway of
the dance hall, peeking in with envy at you folk who are lucky enough to
have someone to dance with!<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Ruth Grim.<br>
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Ruth
You must come to Haslway for the holiday of a lifetime!
see www.halswaymanor.co.uk or listen to the CD samples.
Regards Alan
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    Subject: Re: Music software
    
    
    At 09:59 AM 1/2/01 -0600, you wrote:
    
        CBS/GRIM writes:
        > 
        > This lurker in the shadows of your list has a request. The "abc" you are 
        > referring to - what is it? Is there software (no-one has specified a site 
        > or program) or is it a musician's shorthand you need musical knowledge to use?
        > 
        > If someone would enlighten me I would be very grateful - off-list is OK.
        
           ABC is a format for encoding music using plain text.  You can find out
        more at the following websites: (and many other responses)
    
    Thank you all for the response and information - I appreciate the attention my question has been given by you all. The on-line ECD community has fulfilled my expectations and not only with directions to the information I sought! 
    
    After a year of receiving the list's correspondence, I can tell how much enjoyment you all get from ECD - and each other. I have come to know the group a little, and enhanced my scant knowledge of the dances. The on-line atmosphere is warm and supportive, just as it was in my brief brush with ECD folk here in Australia.
    
    Since there is no ECD to speak of in my city, my experience has been limited to two weekends of "workshops" - firstly as an elective at a special interest conference I attended a few years ago - I was immediately hooked - and then one run by a visiting tutor, attended by (mostly) SCD enthusiasts (and I'm not yet a participant in that genre, either, although it's much more available here in Brisbane).
    
    So thanks again for your help. I will soon be tootling tunes on my recorder, I'm sure - everyone has said how simple the abc method is! I have high hopes ... and now I will return to lurking round the doorway of the dance hall, peeking in with envy at you folk who are lucky enough to have someone to dance with!
    
    Regards,
    
    Ruth Grim.


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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Ruth</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT 
color=#0000ff size=2>You must come to Haslway for the holiday of a 
lifetime!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT 
color=#0000ff size=2>see <A 
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CD samples.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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    </B>CBS/GRIM &lt;<A 
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    href="mailto:ECD-AT-
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PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU</A> 
    &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:ECD-AT-
PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU">ECD-AT-
PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>05 February 2001 01:27<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Music 
    software<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><FONT size=3>At 09:59 AM 1/2/01 -0600, you 
    wrote:<BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE cite type = cite>CBS/GRIM writes:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; This 
        lurker in the shadows of your list has a request. The &quot;abc&quot; 
        you are <BR>&gt; referring to - what is it? Is there software (no-one 
        has specified a site <BR>&gt; or program) or is it a musician's 
        shorthand you need musical knowledge to use?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; If someone 
        would enlighten me I would be very grateful - off-list is 
        OK.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; ABC is a format for encoding music using plain 
        text.&nbsp; You can find out<BR>more at the following websites: (and 
        many other responses)</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Thank you all for the response 
    and information - I appreciate the attention my question has been given by 
    you all. The on-line ECD community has fulfilled my expectations and not 
    only with directions to the information I sought! <BR><BR>After a year of 
    receiving the list's correspondence, I can tell how much enjoyment you all 
    get from ECD - and each other. I have come to know the group a little, and 
    enhanced my scant knowledge of the dances. The on-line atmosphere is warm 
    and supportive, just as it was in my brief brush with ECD folk here in 
    Australia.<BR><BR>Since there is no ECD to speak of in my city, my 
    experience has been limited to two weekends of &quot;workshops&quot; - 
    firstly as an elective at a special interest conference I attended a few 
    years ago - I was immediately hooked - and then one run by a visiting tutor, 
    attended by (mostly) SCD enthusiasts (and I'm not yet a participant in that 
    genre, either, although it's much more available here in 
    Brisbane).<BR><BR>So thanks again for your help. I will soon be tootling 
    tunes on my recorder, I'm sure - everyone has said how simple the abc method 
    is! I have high hopes ... and now I will return to lurking round the doorway 
    of the dance hall, peeking in with envy at you folk who are lucky enough to 
    have someone to dance with!<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Ruth 
Grim.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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At 01:58 AM 5/2/01 +0000, you wrote:
>Ruth
>You must come to Haslway for the holiday of a lifetime!
>see <http://www.halswaymanor.co.uk>www.halswaymanor.co.uk or listen to the 
>CD samples.
>Regards Alan

Oh dear! Viewing the photo is as close as I will get - and hearing the 
music! *Everything* is too far away from  down under! Have a great time 
there, everyone else.
The envious
Ruth

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: CBS/GRIM <<mailto:grimmac-AT-
big.net.au>grimmac-AT-
big.net.au>
>>To: <mailto:ECD-AT-
PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>ECD-AT-
PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU 
>><<mailto:ECD-AT-
PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>ECD-AT-
PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
>>Date: 05 February 2001 01:27
>>Subject: Re: Music software
>>
>>At 09:59 AM 1/2/01 -0600, you wrote:
>>>CBS/GRIM writes:
>>> >
>>> > This lurker in the shadows of your list has a request. The "abc" you are
>>> > referring to - what is it? Is there software (no-one has specified a 
>>> site
>>> > or program) or is it a musician's shorthand you need musical 
>>> knowledge to use?
>>> >
>>> > If someone would enlighten me I would be very grateful - off-list is OK.
>>>
>>>    ABC is a format for encoding music using plain text.  You can find out
>>>more at the following websites: (and many other responses)
>>
>>Thank you all for the response and information - I appreciate the 
>>attention my question has been given by you all. The on-line ECD 
>>community has fulfilled my expectations and not only with directions to 
>>the information I sought!
>>
>>After a year of receiving the list's correspondence, I can tell how much 
>>enjoyment you all get from ECD - and each other. I have come to know the 
>>group a little, and enhanced my scant knowledge of the dances. The 
>>on-line atmosphere is warm and supportive, just as it was in my brief 
>>brush with ECD folk here in Australia.
>>
>>Since there is no ECD to speak of in my city, my experience has been 
>>limited to two weekends of "workshops" - firstly as an elective at a 
>>special interest conference I attended a few years ago - I was 
>>immediately hooked - and then one run by a visiting tutor, attended by 
>>(mostly) SCD enthusiasts (and I'm not yet a participant in that genre, 
>>either, although it's much more available here in Brisbane).
>>
>>So thanks again for your help. I will soon be tootling tunes on my 
>>recorder, I'm sure - everyone has said how simple the abc method is! I 
>>have high hopes ... and now I will return to lurking round the doorway of 
>>the dance hall, peeking in with envy at you folk who are lucky enough to 
>>have someone to dance with!
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Ruth Grim.

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<font size=3>At 01:58 AM 5/2/01 +0000, you wrote:<br>
</font><blockquote type=cite cite><font size=2 color="#0000FF"><b>Ruth</b></font><font size=3><br>
</font><font size=2 color="#0000FF"><b>You must come to Haslway for the
holiday of a lifetime!</b></font><font size=3><br>
</font><font size=2 color="#0000FF"><b>see
<a href="http://www.halswaymanor.co.uk">www.halswaymanor.co.uk</a> or
listen to the CD samples.</b></font><font size=3><br>
</font><font size=2 color="#0000FF"><b>Regards
Alan</b></font></blockquote><br>
Oh dear! Viewing the photo is as close as I will get - and hearing the
music! *Everything* is too far away from&nbsp; down under! Have a great
time there, everyone else.<br>
The envious<br>
Ruth<br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite><blockquote type=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2><b>-----Original
Message-----</b><br>
<b>From: </b>CBS/GRIM
&lt;<a href="mailto:grimmac-AT-
big.net.au">grimmac-AT-
big.net.au</a>&gt;<br>
<b>To:
</b><a href="mailto:ECD-AT-
PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU">ECD-AT-
PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU</a>
&lt;<a href="mailto:ECD-AT-
PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU">ECD-AT-
PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>05 February 2001 01:27<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Music software<br>
<br>
</font><font size=3>At 09:59 AM 1/2/01 -0600, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite>CBS/GRIM writes:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; This lurker in the shadows of your list has a request. The
&quot;abc&quot; you are <br>
&gt; referring to - what is it? Is there software (no-one has specified a
site <br>
&gt; or program) or is it a musician's shorthand you need musical
knowledge to use?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; If someone would enlighten me I would be very grateful - off-list is
OK.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; ABC is a format for encoding music using plain text.&nbsp;
You can find out<br>
more at the following websites: (and many other
responses)</blockquote><br>
Thank you all for the response and information - I appreciate the
attention my question has been given by you all. The on-line ECD
community has fulfilled my expectations and not only with directions to
the information I sought! <br>
<br>
After a year of receiving the list's correspondence, I can tell how much
enjoyment you all get from ECD - and each other. I have come to know the
group a little, and enhanced my scant knowledge of the dances. The
on-line atmosphere is warm and supportive, just as it was in my brief
brush with ECD folk here in Australia.<br>
<br>
Since there is no ECD to speak of in my city, my experience has been
limited to two weekends of &quot;workshops&quot; - firstly as an elective
at a special interest conference I attended a few years ago - I was
immediately hooked - and then one run by a visiting tutor, attended by
(mostly) SCD enthusiasts (and I'm not yet a participant in that genre,
either, although it's much more available here in Brisbane).<br>
<br>
So thanks again for your help. I will soon be tootling tunes on my
recorder, I'm sure - everyone has said how simple the abc method is! I
have high hopes ... and now I will return to lurking round the doorway of
the dance hall, peeking in with envy at you folk who are lucky enough to
have someone to dance with!<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Ruth Grim.</font></blockquote></blockquote></html>

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I'm addressing this message to Philippe Callens on the list, because for
some reason I was blocked from accessing his private e-mail.

Philippe, thanks so much for the dance--I got it i the mail last week. I
enjoyed your calling in Baltimore on New Year's Day too. Hope you get
back here before too long!

Dawn Culbertson
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Alan wrote:
>    Ruth You must come to Haslway for the holiday of a  lifetime! see
>www.halswaymanor.co.uk ...

I'd heard of Halsway, and looked at their web site, but didn't find any
info about ECD events.  
Where can I learn about dancing dates there (thinking of next summer
holiday) rather than merely info about the building?  It sounds like a nice
place for a get-together.
Martin,
 in Grenoble, France.

 http://perso.wanadoo.fr/scots.in.france/scd.htm     
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I recently got a Compaq Pressario computer and after about a week got my
sound system operating (I needed new speakers). The music "sampler"
included stunned me. There are 15 bands and they include the music for
Jack's Health and John Tallis' Canon as well as Dance With My Daddy
(Northumbria), two Scottish songs, a bagpipe selection and the
Adirondack Folk Song-the Days of '49. The other bands are not bad
either. Could anyone tell me who put this selection together? His (or
her) choice of music could make him (or her) my twin.

Ben Stein
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Mary Beth wrote-

 >>Glad to hear of at least one sane Apple person across the pond!
 >
 >Make that two - also with a heap o'Ram and a fairly recent CD
 >burner.
 >...
 >Anyhoo, working away on my G3 laptop, alongside a G4.
 >
 >Mary Beth <-- macs rule!

Certainly more than two! I've done a fair amount of hardware
tinkering on my Macs (RAM, G3 upgrade on an early PowerMac, MIDI,
etc.) although I'm not setting fire to CDs yet. I've animated
Morris dances on them and taught them every tune I know.

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Hi all,

Thanks to all of you who took up the invitation to discuss music software
for sending dance tunes along with e-mail.  Here's a summary of what I've
learned:

1)  There are a number of free programs which will handle elementary
levels of music notation, some apparently easier to use and more competent
for basic entry of music than the freebie which I came across, Finale
Notepad.

2) For various amounts of money, from perhaps $20(USD) or so up to 700
Great Britain pounds, you can get quite a variety of notation programs
with different capabilities.  Some are regarded as being easier to use
than others; some will output in a variety of formats, including PDF,
graphic, and web-file, and these are potentially useful for including in
other documents, transmitting to others, or posting on web pages.  People
who spend the big bucks tend to go for the programs which provide the
specific features that they need, it would appear (surprise).  

3) Those who have notation programs for notation purposes mostly seem to
have found something that is sufficiently satisfactory that there isn't
much interest in learning a free but unfamiliar program.  It wasn't always
clear from the respondents whether they had a need to transfer music files
over e-mail or not.  

4) Of those who were interested in transfer of music files electronically, 
abc was the generally preferred method.  Software for working with abc to
& from notation and MIDI is available from a number of sources on the web
and much of it appears to be free or shareware with nominal regristration
fees.  Programs are available for quite a variety of platforms, but there
a number of programs are available only for very specific platforms.

Standards for abc files are evolving but are not universally established
yet.  Encoding of complicated scores is in principle possible but
standards for many details are not established, limiting the complexity of
what can practically be exchanged.  For simple tunes such as most of the
tunes for ECD, however, this is probably no more a problem than the
limitations of simple notation programs such as Finale Notepad and others,
and the file transfer, being in plain text, is possible within an e-mail
message.  

Musicians comfortable with alternate notations may learn to play
directly from abc notation, at least in simpler cases.  Being comfortable
with computers and downloading and installing programs from various &
sundry sources is necessary to take full advantage of abc, but it is
possible to encode & decode without computer help at all, at least in
simple cases, by those who have the basic rules in their heads.

5) Two respondees, Paul Stamler and Orly Krasner (Thank you!), went to the
trouble of downloading Finale Notepad, and trying it out.  Paul reported
severe limitations with the format and some limitations in editing
capabilities which he felt made this program inferior to other free
notation programs available.  Orly entered some tunes & sent me one as an
attachment.  

6) I was able to open Orly's tune without difficulty, in both Finale
Notepad and in Finale 2001 (their current version).  The appearance was
quite acceptable; no obvious formatting difficulties at least with this
example, which was a simple 16-bar tune.  No difference in appearance
between teh freebie program and the fancy one.  Either one could print it
out without any difficulty, and the results looked quite good.

The file size for Orly's tune was 4.45KB, which I thought was reasonably
efficient.  She also sent instructions for a dance, in Microsoft Word.
The dance instructions were not complicated -- no extensive descriptions
of unusual moves, just mostly single-line instructions for each four
-measure subsection (two took one and a half lines), for a total of ten
lines of instruction.  One line describing the set.  One for title, one
for credit, one for dedication.  Total file size: 19.5KB.

My conclusions are:

A) Finale Notepad works well as a receiver of music files in Finale's
format.  It is much simpler than abc or MIDI, at least in my experience,
to get from the file to printed output.  It apparently can handle very
complex files created with other programs in the same file format.
Downloading and installing is straightforward and free.

B) Finale Notepad is adequate for very simple notation jobs and produces
reasonably compact files which can be sent as attachments to e-mail, but
which can't be sent as text.  It is severely limited in its notational and
formatting capabilities, and may be more difficult to learn and more
cumbersome to use for notational purposes than other available free
notation programs.

C) No other complete solution for music file transfer surfaced in this
go-around.  Some other suggestions made were either available only for
Macintosh (which I couldn't try, not being a Mac user) or were not
generally available yet for Windows.  No other specific transfer trials
were proposed and so no others were made.  I did independent MIDI
transfers successfully, and I have used abc in the past, but without the
benefit of interpreting programs on my end.

Bottom line:  anyone whose purposes can be handled by Final Notepad can
send, as an e-mail attachment, a music file to anyone else who can
download Finale Notepad, which is available for Windows & Mac versions.
Furthermore, anyone who has a more sophisticated version of Coda Music's
notation programs (Print Music, Allegro, or Finale) can send a file as an
attachment to anyone with F. Notepad.  File encoding is reasonably
efficient for recent Coda Music versions; older versions produce bigger
files which however still can be read by F. Notepad.  If you need
something to run under Unix or its variants, abc or MIDI are better bets.

Eric Arnold
Ann Arbor




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Hi folks:

Meanwhile, I also downloaded and tried Melody Assistant, on Michael
Barraclough's suggestion. At first try it seems like a remarkably powerful
system, albeit with a steep learning curve in some ways. But I was somewhat
put off by their description of the free-download version as "complete". It
is complete -- provided you're writing in 4:4 time and the key of C.
Anything else is verboten. A little truth-in-labeling would be welcomed
here.

Anyway, if I'm feeling flush I *may* spring the US$18 for the registered
version -- it seems to be capable of an awful lot.

Peace,
Paul

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Eric Arnold <eba-AT-
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> ... For various amounts of money, from perhaps $20(USD) or so up to 700
Great 
> Britain pounds...

In the midst of a discussion of how to represent music in a form that
emailers can transport, Eric illustrates the difficulty of representing
currency symbols in a form that emailers can transport. Delicious!  (It's
concurrent, by the way, with a discussion on the Scottish dance list of how
to represent accented characters)

Fortunately, currency symbols are well-settled. ISO standard 4217
(<http://www.egt.ie/standards/iso4217/input.html>, or ask your favorite
search engine) gives 3-letter abbreviations for each country's currency. I
suspect Eric already knows this -- at least USD and GBP -- but I point it
out here because (a) it does solve a useful problem, (b) browsing the list
is a reminder of how big the world is (and the changes over time are *very*
interesting, as countries appear and disappear), and (c) I've waited years
for a chance to weave "ISO 4217" into a conversation.

  -Bruce

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I well remember doing the 4 couple version of Jamaica at Francis Worrall
club in Barnstaple, MA the second time I went to the States. That must
have been 1995 I think. Francis said that he had been doing it that way
for sometime although he had a slight modification. If memory serves me
correctly he had the back-to-backs with corners in groups of 4 at the
ends of the set.

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Several years ago, in a callers' or choreographers' workshop at
English-American Week at Buffalo Gap, one of the participants did a
four-couple version of Jamaica.  My recollection is that it was very
closely based on the longways double-progression version that is familiar
in the US.  Unfortunately, I don't recall at the moment which year or
whose class or who introduced it.  

I do remember feeling that while it worked very smoothly as a four-couple
dance, that it (and other four-couple dances which use top-bottom symmetry
in the progression) felt, after two times through, that we were already
repeating the dance, because I was doing exactly the same figures with the
same people that I had done them with two times before.  

I think if this progression is used, then it helps to keep the dance
interesting if the non-progressive figures break this top-bottom symmetry
and involve all four couples in ways that mix up the interactions more.

(By top-bottom symmetry, I mean any figures in which what the bottom
couples do is either a mirror image, in a line through the middle across
the set, or a rotation about the center of the set, of what the top
couples are doing.)

Eric Arnold

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 Dear Friends,

 Those of you within driving distance of Boston might be interested in our
annual  Valentine's day party dance on Wednesday Feb. 14, 7:30 to 10:30 at
the Park Avenue Church in Arlington. (For directions see
http://www.cds-boston.org/pacc_dirs.html)

In selecting dances for the program, Jacqueline Schwab writes" I am not
emphasizing dances with "Love" in the title but instead  looking for
romantic, beautiful dances with good music and also some more exciting ones
to balance out the evening."

If your group is running a similar event, I'd love to hear about your program.

Best,
 Terry


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All are welcome to Halsway Folk Dance Group's St Valentine's Dance on Saturday 17th February, 2001. We have the well known John Chapman calling with "Jigs for Gigs" providing the music. It will start 7.45 - 11.30 at Richard Huish College South Rd Taunton Somerset UK. Tickets £4.50 in advance from me or £5.50 on the door. Teas & coffees available.
Alan Corkett Greengarth Mill La Nether Stowey Somerset TA5 1NL UK. Tel -01278 73202 

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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>All are welcome to Halsway Folk Dance 
Group's St Valentine's Dance on Saturday 17th February, 2001. We have the well 
known John Chapman calling with &quot;Jigs for Gigs&quot; providing the music. 
It will start 7.45 - 11.30 at Richard Huish College South Rd Taunton Somerset 
UK. Tickets &pound;4.50 in advance from me or &pound;5.50 on the door. Teas 
&amp; coffees available.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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All are welcome to Halsway Folk Dance Group's St Valentine's Dance on Saturday 17th February, 2001. We have the well known John Chapman calling with "Jigs for Gigs" providing the music. It will start 7.45 - 11.30 at Richard Huish College South Rd Taunton Somerset UK. Tickets £4.50 in advance from me or £5.50 on the door. Teas & coffees available.
Alan Corkett Greengarth Mill La Nether Stowey Somerset TA5 1NL UK. Tel -01278 732202 (Previously incorrect telephone number- sorry!) 

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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>All are welcome to Halsway Folk Dance 
Group's St Valentine's Dance on Saturday 17th February, 2001. We have the well 
known John Chapman calling with &quot;Jigs for Gigs&quot; providing the music. 
It will start 7.45 - 11.30 at Richard Huish College South Rd Taunton Somerset 
UK. Tickets &pound;4.50 in advance from me or &pound;5.50 on the door. Teas 
&amp; coffees available.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#800000 face="" size=2>Alan Corkett Greengarth Mill La 
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To all English dance types in the Baltimore-Washington area:

Please note that Dawn Culbertson will be calling the dance at St. Mark's
on the Hill next Monday, Feb. 12, instead of Rich Galloway. Carl Friedman
(fiddle) and Francine Krasowska (piano) will still be proving the music.


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Oops! I meant to say,  PROVIDING the music--these musicians don't have
anything to prove...

Dawn
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Hi Guys
STOP PRESS
I have set up a special do for those who remember David Kettlewell, musicologist, dulcimer banger, clarinetist, harp, harpsichord, guitar, etc, etc.
He went to Scandinavia over 20 years ago and is visiting England to address a conference at Canterbury.
I have persuaded him to come and spend a few days at Halsway Manor in April immediately after the conference.  We are calling it a "house party", with sessions in the morning and evening and free afternoons. 
DATES It will run from the dinner on Monday the 2nd April through to breakfast on Friday the 6th April. 
CHARGES The charge will be £120 for those sharing in the 4/5 large bedrooms, £127 for twins/doubles and £135 for singles. En-suites are surcharged at £5 per person per night.
DAILY charges are £19.50 including lunch and morning and afternoon refreshments.
See attached initial flyer with application form, programme to follow.
Regards Alan Corkett

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ECD subscribers --

Please don't post complaints about Alan Corkett's posting a Word document.
I've already let him know that doing so is antisocial behavior on the ECD
list; we don't need to spend more bandwidth complaining about it.

Pour encourage les autres, though, let me remind all subscribers that this 
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 I wanted to let everyone know that the famous Dr David Kettlewell (not been
seen for 20 years!) is coming to England at Easter, firstly to address a
conference at Canterbury, Kent Univ. His session is called 'Learning with
Leonardo', implying doing lots of different artistic things to produce a
harmonic whole, with emphasis on activities and insights which solve
problems and make sense to people today ... and then to spend several days
at Halsway Manor, Somerset, UK.

Mid-Week April House Party at Halsway Manor, Somerset, UK.
DATES 2nd - 6th APRIL 2001
STOP PRESS  **  A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FROM SWEDEN  **

For this magnificent, historic occasion we are delighted to welcome, for the
first time in many years, Dr David Kettlewell, author, composer and
musicologist extraordinaire.  Many folk enthusiasts will remember David
worked for EFDSS as a field officer and met a great many people (some of
whom are contacting me already!) and was a great inspiration to fellow
dancers, musicians and singers. David plays a whole range of styles of music
including playford, on a whole range of musical instruments including
harpsichord, harp. (I have also heard him play dulcimer and clarinet among
others)  He works a great deal with presenting his ideas using modern
technology.


We are preparing a set of morning workshops which will entertain and allow
the participants to learn what they can do and discover more about
themselves in the process.  This will be interesting, lighthearted and fun.
It is a "break" after all and not an intensive course. Afternoons will be
free. Activities in the evenings.

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Provisional programme suggestions:

Depending on your reactions, I can also put together something with
graphics (text and illustrations) for distribution on paper. Titles may
be changed, of course.

"From Notre Dame to the Beatles"
 - a practical experience of the history of harmony - how the weaving
together of separate melodies gave rise to today's 'chordal' thinking

"Mr. Porter's Delight"
- new repertoire for folk players - aires from John Play ford (and
others) as the English counterpart to Carolan

Play ford Plays Play ford
- a baroque view of the music for Play ford dances


" 'Tis the quire do have to sing ... "
- Hardy, harmony singing, shape-note hymns, the links with west-gallery
 music and Paul Simon

"Musica Humana"
- finding the voice within you - especially for those who believe they
can't sing

"Practical Musicology"
- knowing what you do - and how doing what you know!

"You CAN draw and paint"
- integrating the common elements of mediaeval manuscript illumination,
renaissance frescos and baroque folk painting, to create something practical
and uniquely your own

"The Striking Sound"
- reflections on dulcimers and dulcimer-players from many places and times

 "Multimedia on the Mac"
- practical thoughts about using today's technology for communicating
culture and education
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Halsway Manor, (pronounced locally as "haulzee") Crowcombe, Somerset, UK.,
(off M5) is the unique residential folk music centre devoted to folk music,
dance and song, on the slopes of the Quantock Hills (AONB), where we shall
have the use of the ballroom, library and lounge, including bar. Stands in
its own grounds and gardens with car park. (see website
www.halswaymanor.com)

This is a brand new event and we need 15 applicants minimum to run the
course.  The fee for 4 days mid-week full-board in the manor will be £120
each (for those prepared to share in large 4/5 bed rooms, £127 each in
twins/double rooms, £135 each in singles.  En-suite £5 per person per night
extra in mews only.
Deposits of £20 ($30) required now to reserve a place.  Please book now to
avoid disappointment. (see website www.halswaymanor.com )for booking form
and further info.
Email me (alan-AT-
bcorkett.freeserve.co.uk)

Regards AlanC


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The Little Tinkers band  from Utrecht, The Netherlands, is coming to play 2 dances in Jacksonville, FL. The Jacksonville Country Dance and Song Society is sponsoring an English country dance on Friday February 23 and a contra dance on Saturday February 24th.  Details below.   Visit The Little Tinkers at: http://www.xs4all.nl/~miksmix/littletinkers/


Event-  English Country Dance
Date- Friday, February 23, 2001
Time-  8 PM to 10:30 PM;  beginner lesson at 7:30
Where- Church of the Good Shepherd, Episcopal,  1100 Stockton St., Jacksonville, FL
Live music with The Little Tinkers; caller Charles Dyer.
Admission by donation of $6 per person

Event-  Contra Dance
Date- Saturday, February 24, 2001
Time-  8 PM to 11:00 PM;  beginner lesson at 7:30
Where- Church of the Good Shepherd, Episcopal,  1100 Stockton St., Jacksonville, FL
Live music with The Little Tinkers; caller  Alice Milmoe of Orlando, FL
Admission by donation of $7 per person 
 
Contact-  Charles Dyer,  904-731-7058;  chdyer-AT-
aya.yale.edu
For directions and a map visit   http://chdyer.tripod.com

Make it a weekend in Jacksonville and attend the Scottish Highland games at the University of North Florida on Saturday- visit their website at: http://www.geocities.com/jshg_2000/

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<DIV>The Little Tinkers band  from Utrecht, The Netherlands, is coming to play 2 
dances in Jacksonville, FL. The Jacksonville Country Dance and Song Society is 
sponsoring an English country dance on Friday February 23 and a contra dance on 
Saturday February 24th.&nbsp; Details below.&nbsp;&nbsp; Visit The Little 
Tinkers at: <A 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Event-&nbsp; English Country Dance</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Date- Friday, February 23, 2001</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Time-&nbsp; 8 PM to 10:30 PM;&nbsp; beginner lesson 
at 7:30</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Where- Church of the Good Shepherd, 
Episcopal,&nbsp; 1100 Stockton St., Jacksonville, FL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Live music with The Little Tinkers; caller Charles 
Dyer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Admission by donation of $6 per person</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Event-&nbsp; Contra Dance</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Date- Saturday, February 24, 2001</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Time-&nbsp; 8 PM to 11:00 PM;&nbsp; beginner lesson 
at 7:30</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Where- Church of the Good Shepherd, 
Episcopal,&nbsp; 1100 Stockton St., Jacksonville, FL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Live music with The Little Tinkers; caller&nbsp; 
Alice Milmoe of Orlando, FL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Admission by donation of $7 per person 
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Contact-&nbsp; Charles Dyer,&nbsp; 
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Its great to see the Little Tinkers still going. I remember playing along on bass with them (if it is the same band, which I think it must be) in their very early days, around 1987 or 88. I remember driving around Utrecht looking for the place they were playing in, and I could actually see it, but due to the fiendish one-way-traffic system I could not actually get to it.

They had never played with a bass before, and were keen to see what it did to their sound. I was working with a guy who played guitar with them at the time. My memory suggests that they were fairly new to the scene at that time.  We had a great night in the end, and good fun was had by all. If I recall correctly, it was either Wim Lammers or Anthony Heywood calling.

I looked at their weboste and unsurprisingly I can't remember any of the faces. It could be that it is like the old one about "my family has had this axe for generations - it has had three new heads and seven new handles but its still as good as new". Perhaps the personnel has changed over the years.. or it may just be thaty my memory isn't what it was.  

At any rate - I'm sure that you and they will have a great time.  Wish I could be there... Have fun all.

Ron H


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  Subject: The Little Tinkers will play for 2 dances in Jacksonville, FL


  The Little Tinkers band from Utrecht, The Netherlands, is coming to play 2 dances in Jacksonville, FL. The Jacksonville Country Dance and Song Society is sponsoring an English country dance on Friday February 23 and a contra dance on Saturday February 24th.  Details below.   Visit The Little Tinkers at: http://www.xs4all.nl/~miksmix/littletinkers/


  Event-  English Country Dance
  Date- Friday, February 23, 2001
  Time-  8 PM to 10:30 PM;  beginner lesson at 7:30
  Where- Church of the Good Shepherd, Episcopal,  1100 Stockton St., Jacksonville, FL
  Live music with The Little Tinkers; caller Charles Dyer.
  Admission by donation of $6 per person

  Event-  Contra Dance
  Date- Saturday, February 24, 2001
  Time-  8 PM to 11:00 PM;  beginner lesson at 7:30
  Where- Church of the Good Shepherd, Episcopal,  1100 Stockton St., Jacksonville, FL
  Live music with The Little Tinkers; caller  Alice Milmoe of Orlando, FL
  Admission by donation of $7 per person 

  Contact-  Charles Dyer,  904-731-7058;  chdyer-AT-
aya.yale.edu
  For directions and a map visit  http://chdyer.tripod.com

  Make it a weekend in Jacksonville and attend the Scottish Highland games at the University of North Florida on Saturday- visit their website at: http://www.geocities.com/jshg_2000/

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Its great to see the Little Tinkers still going. I 
remember playing along on bass with them (if it is the same band, which I think 
it must be) in their very early days, around 1987 or 88. I remember driving 
around Utrecht looking for the place they were playing in, and I could actually 
see it, but due to the fiendish one-way-traffic system I could not actually get 
to it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>They had never played with a bass before, and were 
keen to see what it did to their sound. I was working with a guy who played 
guitar with them at the time. My memory suggests that they were fairly new to 
the scene at that time.&nbsp; We had a great night in the end, and good fun was 
had by all. If I recall correctly, it was either Wim Lammers or Anthony Heywood 
calling.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I looked at their weboste and unsurprisingly I 
can't remember any of the faces. It could be that it is like the old one about 
"my family has had this axe for generations - it has had three new heads and 
seven new handles but its still as good as new". Perhaps the personnel has 
changed over the years.. or it may just be thaty my memory isn't what it 
was.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At any rate - I'm sure that you and they will have 
a great time.&nbsp; Wish I could be there... Have fun all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV>The Little Tinkers band from Utrecht, The Netherlands, is coming to play 
  2 dances in Jacksonville, FL. The Jacksonville Country Dance and Song Society 
  is sponsoring an English country dance on Friday February 23 and a contra 
  dance on Saturday February 24th.&nbsp; Details below.&nbsp;&nbsp; Visit The 
  Little Tinkers at: <A 
  href="http://www.xs4all.nl/~miksmix/littletinkers/">http://www.xs4all.nl/~miksmix/littletinkers/</A></DIV></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Event-&nbsp; English Country Dance</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Date- Friday, February 23, 2001</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Time-&nbsp; 8 PM to 10:30 PM;&nbsp; beginner 
  lesson at 7:30</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Where- Church of the Good Shepherd, 
  Episcopal,&nbsp; 1100 Stockton St., Jacksonville, FL</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Live music with The Little Tinkers; caller 
  Charles Dyer.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>Admission by donation of $6 per person</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Event-&nbsp; Contra Dance</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Date- Saturday, February 24, 2001</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Time-&nbsp; 8 PM to 11:00 PM;&nbsp; beginner 
  lesson at 7:30</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Where- Church of the Good Shepherd, 
  Episcopal,&nbsp; 1100 Stockton St., Jacksonville, FL</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Live music with The Little Tinkers; caller&nbsp; 
  Alice Milmoe of Orlando, FL</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Admission by donation of $7 per person 
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Contact-&nbsp; Charles Dyer,&nbsp; 
  904-731-7058;&nbsp; <A 
  href="mailto:chdyer-AT-
aya.yale.edu">chdyer-AT-
aya.yale.edu</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>For directions and a map visit&nbsp; <A 
  href="http://chdyer.tripod.com">http://chdyer.tripod.com</A></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Make it a weekend in Jacksonville and attend the Scottish Highland games 
  at the University of North Florida on Saturday- visit their website at: <A 
  href="http://www.geocities.com/jshg_2000/">http://www.geocities.com/jshg_2000/</A></DIV></FONT></DIV></DIV></FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Is there enough interest to set up a Christmas House party at a good hotel with a ballroom or dancefloor, now that Halsway dont do it any more?
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Try Paddocks Hotel Symonds Yat West, with a superb ballroom, but I don't
know whether you are too late for Xmas 2001 or 2002.
Halsway may be re-organising what they do and the way things are done, now
that there is a change in the management style and structure.
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    To Mainly UK Recipients, but to anyone interested.

    Is there enough interest to set up a Christmas House party at a good
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I am doing a project for school about English Country Dance and I am writing 
to get some information. I am in the Dance Education program at NYU and I was 
wondering if there were any particular ECD forms that were more widely used 
in the classroom to teach children about social forms. I am student teaching 
at an inner city public school and I would like to enlighten my kids to dance 
forms they are not used to. If anyone has a suggestion as where to begin with 
ECD I would appreciate it. Thanks!

~Kathryn Wilkening
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Hello Kathryn,

I'm not sure what you mean by "ECD forms" that are used to teach children
"about social forms".  Do you mean which ECD dances appeal to kids?  That
one I can answer.

Kids like tricky spacial patterns with easy footwork, so ECD is a natural
for them. They like to dance fast, so if the dances you choose have
slipping or skipping, that's a bonus.  The steps used in ECD are simple
ones (walk, skip, slide pas-de-bas) and there are plenty of dances that
don't use anything but walking. So the dances are extremely appropriate for
kids.

If you are teaching only one or two dances from the ECD repertory I'd stick
to non-progressive dances.  I've taught "The Black Nag" and "Rufty Tufty"
to third grade and up. 

"Thady You Gander" has whole-set progression and is usually a big hit, also
with grades 3 and up. (I've taught it to younger kids but it takes longer
to teach and the reel is a bit tricky for them).  I tell the kids in the
3-5 grade range who don't like dancing with opposite sex partners that its
more FUN if they'll dance in longways sets, boys on one side girls on the
other, because then all the girls get to chase one guy, and vice versa.
But I also teach it with sets of 8 boys or 8 girls rather than have the
kids miserable that they have to elbow swing-- actually TOUCH-- a person of
the opposite sex. Call the lines A's and B's instead of boys and girls if
the sets are all-boy or all-girl. They won't be happy if they think they
are playing the part of the opposite sex, so don't tell them.    

"Gathering Peascods" and "Sellengers Round" which are dances for pairs in
circle formation are very popular with kids. I've even gotten that 3-5 age
group dancing this in boy girl pairs-- the only touching is the slipping
circle in verse 1 and the arming in verse 3. THey like having the slipping
circles same-sex and the in and out alternating boys and girls, so they
usually put up with arming an opposite sex person.   I usually teach
Peascods in one big circle, but break into circles of 6-8 couples when
dancing it so that they can get all the way around and back to their
original partner on the slipping circles in the chorus. Sellenger's Round
is fine in one big circle and is easier to do with same-sex partners.  Kids
older than 6th grade and younger than 3rd are usually OK with opposite sex
partners.    

If you decide to teach a longways progressive dance, do something that
starts with all four doing something together so that they have in effect
taken hands four to see who is in their set this round.  "Knole Park" is
good because it starts with circle left.  My students used to call the
poussette "shopping carts"  They loved the dance.  Things that start with
"star right" work too.  Dances that start with the first corners doing
something make it harder for kids to figure out the progression.  

If you are working with 4th grade and up, they can do anything an adult can
do,  will learn it faster and remember it better.  The only trick is
getting their attention and motivating them to learn it in the first place.
And you have to know your group a bit-- if they are rowdy, I wouldn't teach
anything with gates, because they will use it as an excuse to swing too
hard and throw the other person on the floor.  But you don't need to "teach
down" to them, or simplify things.  Kids tend to prefer dances with
intricate patterns because they are like puzzles, so challenge them. I
taught "Grand Square" to K-6 one year, and even the kindergarten classes
could do it.  They loved it BECAUSE it was tricky.    

Are you sticking to ECD?  I taught international dance, so I included
social dances from many countries in my program.  I'd look at the group,
and be sure to include dances from some of the ethnic groups in my classes.
 I learned dances from recent immigrant kids and taught those to the next
group I worked with.  If you are interested in talking more about
international repertory or building skills over time for different age
groups, e-mail me privately-- this is an ECD list.  

Best of luck with your project!!  Its good to know people are interested in
getting kids dancing young.  And my experience has been that the regular
ECD community more than other dance communities, welcomes young people just
as soon as they are competant.  They don't have to wait ten years from your
class until they reach adult height and age before they are allowed on the
dance floor.  

Victoria Bestock, Seattle.

>I am doing a project for school about English Country Dance and I am writing 
>to get some information. I am in the Dance Education program at NYU and I
was 
>wondering if there were any particular ECD forms that were more widely used 
>in the classroom to teach children about social forms. I am student teaching 
>at an inner city public school and I would like to enlighten my kids to
dance 
>forms they are not used to. If anyone has a suggestion as where to begin
with 
>ECD I would appreciate it. Thanks!
>
>~Kathryn Wilkening
>
>



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I hope some of you can come to our twenty-first annual Spring Ball in Ashland,
Oregon:

Sponsored by the Ashland Branch of the Heather and the Rose Country Dancers,
the ball is March 24, 2001 at the Britt Ballroom, Southern Oregon University,
1250 Siskiyou Blvd..

The ball includes both English and Scottish country dance. Musicians include
Kimberly McKittrick from Seattle on fiddle, Nancy Spencer on recorders, flute,
and whistle, Glenn Freese on guitar and hammered dulcimer, and Pat O’Scannell
on whistle, recorders, bones, guitar and viola da gamba..

The ball begins with a grand march at 7:45 pm. There will be a ball review
workshop 1-4 pm. Cost is $16 general admission; $14 Heather & Rose members.

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With apologies for cross-posting...

Our flyers finally got mailed today, so those of you who get hard copies
should see them in about four weeks. In the meantime, here's the plain text
of the flyer. Please note that we have a new email address (not the one
sending this message) and post office box, in an effort to keep our mundane
lives separate... Feel free to call/write/email me with questions or
comments, and hope to see lots of you in July!  Louise

Baroque Dance and its Music
28th Annual  Workshop
at Stanford University

July 16 - 27, 2001

For Dancers, Dance Scholars, Choreographers, Musicians,
Musicologists, and Theater Movement Specialists

Wendy Hilton, Director
Linda Tomko, Co-Director
Marie-Nathalie Lacoursière
Baroque Violins:
Bronwen Pugh
Julie Andrijeski

Lectures During Week Two by Judith Schwartz Karp, Marie-Nathalie
Lacoursière, and Linda Tomko

The Baroque Dance Summer Workshop at Stanford University offers intensive
study in the style, technique and notation of French court and theater dance
at the beginning, intermediate and advanced levels; the individual dance
types and their music; performance technique, etiquette, and bows and
courtesies.

Daily activities include two technique classes, the second concluding with
contradances; a dance notation class; a music class or
lecture-demonstration; and time to use the music library with its extensive
dance collection and the Lully Archives. Beginning and intermediate couples
are allocated a one-hour daily practice slot. Evening practice space is also
available. Advanced students are allocated practice space and have four
private, or semi-private, notation sessions with Wendy Hilton. Admission to
the advanced group is at the discretion of the faculty, and students should
discuss with Ms. Hilton well in advance the dance they wish to study. The
Workshop concludes on July 27th with a farewell party at 5:00 p.m. for
faculty, students and guests.

Beginning Workshop students will study one of the first dances to be
published in Beauchamp/Feuillet notation in Paris, 1700: Louis Pécour's
famous danse à deux la Bourée d'Achille (bourée, menuet, bourée) to music by
Lully's pupil Pascal Colasse.

André Campra's tragédie lyrique Tancrède was first given in 1702. In
preparation for the anniversary in 2002, two of the three extant dances from
Tancrède by Pécour (published in Feuillet's 1704 Recueil) will be the focus
of the intermediate classes. The beautiful Sarabande à deux to an Air des
Plaisirs will be the notation project, while sections from the contrasting,
musically intricate, Contre-danse à deux, a mouvement de Gigue, will be
taught daily in the dance class, allowing students, if they wish, to dance
the pieces consecutively in the final notation showing. For advanced
students not already familiar with the dance, there is Pécour's virtuosic
Gigue pour une femme (Gaudrau c. 1713), possibly composed for the 1707
revival of Tancrède.

The contradances which conclude the day will be drawn from choreographies in
Feuillet's 1706 Recüeil de contredances and Dezais' 1712 Deuxième recueil de
nouvelles contredances, which would have been danced during the period when
Tancrède was performed.

During the second week of the Workshop, Judith Schwartz Karp will lead a
discussion of Pécour's structural use of Campra's music for Tancrède.
Marie-Nathalie Lacoursière will speak about Versailles, its history and the
dancing activities that took place there in the late seventeenth and early
eighteenth centuries. Linda Tomko will give a lecture-presentation on
Anthony L'Abbé's Turkish Dance, published circa 1725.

WorkshopAdministrator: Louise M. Pescetta, phone/fax (415) 337-7779; e-mail:
BaroquedanceworkshopLMP-AT-
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Baroque Dance & Music Faculty
Wendy Hilton, Director, is the author of Dance and Music of Court and
Theater (1997), co-author with Donald Waxman of Dance Pageant (1992), and a
contributor to the International Encyclopedia of Dance (1998).  Her
choreographic credits include Dardanus by Rameau, and the American premier
of Mary, Queen of Scots by Thea Musgrave. She is on the faculty of The
Juilliard School and general editor of the Pendragon Press series Dance and
Music: the Alliance of the Two Arts. She has been consulted by modern
choreographers such as Jerome Robbins.

Linda Tomko, Co-Director, leads "Les Menus Plaisirs," a Baroque dance
troupe. She has performed in reconstructions of Baroque dance throughout the
U. S., in Canada and Japan, and choreographed period-style dances for
Purcell's Dido and Aeneas, produced by Stanford's Music Department in 1998.
She holds a Ph.D. in History from UCLA and is Associate Professor of Dance
at U.C. Riverside. She is a contributor to the International Encyclopedia of
Dance (1998); her book, Dancing Class: Gender, Ethnicity, and Social Divides
in American Dance, 1890-1920, is forthcoming from Indiana University Press.
She is President of the Society of Dance History Scholars.

Marie-Nathalie Lacoursière, actress and Baroque dancer, holds a bachelor's
degree in music education and is pursuing an M.A. in dance at the Université
du Québec à Montréal. She is the artistic director of Theâtre Lavalière et
Jabot in Montreal, which brings together actors, dancers, musicians and
visual artists in revivals of the Baroque period. She has performed with
many groups, including Les Idées Heureuses (Montréal); Aradia (Toronto), and
A Noble Madness (Ottawa). She teaches Baroque dance in Montréal at Vincent-d
'Indy College and for Heritage Canada. She has staged productions and is
touring in the schools of Québec for Les Jeunesses Musicales du Canada with
a show about Baroque and modern dance.

Bronwen Pugh, Music Director, a specialist in Baroque violin, studied at the
Royal Conservatory in The Hague with Sigiswald Kuijken. She has played in
several chamber ensembles and Baroque orchestras throughout Europe. She is a
founding member of Restoration and Sonnerie based in Wellington, New
Zealand, and she plays regularly in performances of Baroque music and dance.

Julie Andrijeski, a Baroque violinist and Baroque dancer, served for three
years as Director of the Baroque Orchestra and Instructor of Baroque Dance
at Case Western Reserve University. She is a regular member of the early
music ensemble Chatham Baroque and also frequently combines her skills as
concertmaster, instructor, dancer and/or choreographer in opera projects and
workshops throughout the U.S. A D.M.A. candidate in historical and modern
violin performance at CWRU and the Cleveland Institute of Music, she also
keeps a busy recording schedule.

2001 Baroque Dance Summer Workshop Application

TUITION:
TWO-WEEK (JULY 16-27)  __ $485 (non-credit)
FIRST WEEK ONLY (JULY 16-20) __ $360 (non-credit)

Registration: Sunday, July 15  (2-6 pm)

__ I would like to reserve a copy of the required text, Hilton's Dance &
Music of Court and Theater, at the special price of $72.

APPLICATION Fee is $15 prior to May 31; $30 after May 31. Application Fee is
due with this form; course fees must be paid by registration day.
Application Fee is non-refundable.

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This to the Bay Area dancers

Is anybody driving down to this Friday's Palo Alto dance from either the city 
or the East Bay?  I'm jonesing to go, but need a ride.  Contact me off-list 
at...

tideswell-AT-
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nilos-AT-
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Thanks!

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Dear ListMembers:

My group is looking for the steps to the following tunes that appear in 
Peter Barnes' work:

Algeers
Bath Medley
Bellamira
Black Boy

Does anybody have this information?

Thanks

Jack Maus
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Jack Maus wrote:


> My group is looking for the steps to the following tunes that appear in
> Peter Barnes' work:

> Algeers

I think you want Argeers, which can be found in "The Playford Ball", 
published by CDSS.  (http://www.cdss.org)

> Bath Medley

In "From Two Barns" volume I; CDSS often has volumes of that series, although
I suspect volume I is out of print.

> Bellamira

In "Again, Let's Be Merry"; I got my copy from CDSS but I don't know if it's 
in print.

> Black Boy

Appears to have been published in "The Ashover Collection", of which I have
never seen a copy.  

> Does anybody have this information?

I reckon somebody on the list will.  (And I hope they'll recollect that the
words of modern reconstructions belong to the reconstructors, and not
distribute them on the list without permission.)

-- Alan


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what is the common definition of english country dance?  Also can anyone give 
me any trivial facts about folk dances?

Thanxs
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<<what is the common definition of english country dance?  Also can anyone
give
me any trivial facts about folk dances?>>

Plenty of people can do the latter, and the former will no doubt create a
long, interesting discussion. But a simple working definition of English
Country Dance is "that stuff they do in the movies of Jane Austen novels" --
and you won't be too far wrong.

Peace,
Paul

PS Awright, you want something serious, try this: "A class of dances
originally done by upper-class Britishers and their descendants. They were
originally loosely based on the folk dances of the English countryside as
perceived by the gentry, but very soon developed their own style and
impetus; many new dances in that style were composed in the 17th-18th
century. The form had pretty much died out by the beginning of the 20th
century, but it was revived by Cecil Sharp and others and has enjoyed
renewed popularity since then, in the UK, the USA and various other places,
with new dances being written in the last few decades of the 20th century.
Meanwhile, the folk dances of the English countryside continued to be done
by rural folk, and they too have seen a revival, sometimes under the rubric
of "ceilidh dancing", which has become quite popular among English young
people. This too can be classed as "English country dancing", although of a
different flavor."

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Hi Kathryn
A UK respondent here.
The English Folk Dance & Song Society has published several books
specifically aimed at teaching ECD to school children. The UK slant may be
different but they should provide a good base to start from.
One of them is entitled 'Traditional British & Other Dances for National
Curriculum KS2' by Diana Jewitt
Another recent publication is entitled 'From Monarch to Mudlark' and
focuses on Victorian Dance.

Contact EFDSS on 44 20 7485 2206
their website is http://www.efdss.org/

Alternatively try 
Derek & Ann Appleing of Cheltenham UK. They run a very comprehensive
bookshop, email address: 
Derek-Ann-AT-
folksales.freeserve.co.uk

or Graham Knight, who also runs a small book shop (Graham's wife Wendy is
one of the co-authors (I believe) of 'From Monarch to Mudlark' and has
written at least one other book on ECD for children). Email address:
graham-AT-
gcknight.demon.co.uk

Good Luck
John Turner


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>I am doing a project for school about English Country Dance and I am
writing 
to get some information. I am in the Dance Education program at NYU and I
was 
wondering if there were any particular ECD forms that were more widely used

in the classroom to teach children about social forms. I am student
teaching 
at an inner city public school and I would like to enlighten my kids to
dance 
forms they are not used to. If anyone has a suggestion as where to begin
with 
ECD I would appreciate it. Thanks!

~Kathryn Wilkening

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Transferring Music via email
A simple method I use which works well for sending folk music is to scan
the file and store it in .bmp format, insert it as a picture into a MS Word
file. Then send the MS Word file as a binary attachment. One tune at once
only!
John T   


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From: Eric Arnold <eba-AT-
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Subject: Re: Music software (summary)
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Hi all,

Thanks to all of you who took up the invitation to discuss music software
for sending dance tunes along with e-mail.  Here's a summary of what I've
learned:

1)  There are a number of free programs which will handle elementary
levels of music notation, some apparently easier to use and more competent
for basic entry of music than the freebie which I came across, Finale
Notepad.

2) For various amounts of money, from perhaps $20(USD) or so up to 700
Great Britain pounds, you can get quite a variety of notation programs
with different capabilities.  Some are regarded as being easier to use
than others; some will output in a variety of formats, including PDF,
graphic, and web-file, and these are potentially useful for including in
other documents, transmitting to others, or posting on web pages.  People
who spend the big bucks tend to go for the programs which provide the
specific features that they need, it would appear (surprise).  

3) Those who have notation programs for notation purposes mostly seem to
have found something that is sufficiently satisfactory that there isn't
much interest in learning a free but unfamiliar program.  It wasn't always
clear from the respondents whether they had a need to transfer music files
over e-mail or not.  

4) Of those who were interested in transfer of music files electronically, 
abc was the generally preferred method.  Software for working with abc to
& from notation and MIDI is available from a number of sources on the web
and much of it appears to be free or shareware with nominal regristration
fees.  Programs are available for quite a variety of platforms, but there
a number of programs are available only for very specific platforms.

Standards for abc files are evolving but are not universally established
yet.  Encoding of complicated scores is in principle possible but
standards for many details are not established, limiting the complexity of
what can practically be exchanged.  For simple tunes such as most of the
tunes for ECD, however, this is probably no more a problem than the
limitations of simple notation programs such as Finale Notepad and others,
and the file transfer, being in plain text, is possible within an e-mail
message.  

Musicians comfortable with alternate notations may learn to play
directly from abc notation, at least in simpler cases.  Being comfortable
with computers and downloading and installing programs from various &
sundry sources is necessary to take full advantage of abc, but it is
possible to encode & decode without computer help at all, at least in
simple cases, by those who have the basic rules in their heads.

5) Two respondees, Paul Stamler and Orly Krasner (Thank you!), went to the
trouble of downloading Finale Notepad, and trying it out.  Paul reported
severe limitations with the format and some limitations in editing
capabilities which he felt made this program inferior to other free
notation programs available.  Orly entered some tunes & sent me one as an
attachment.  

6) I was able to open Orly's tune without difficulty, in both Finale
Notepad and in Finale 2001 (their current version).  The appearance was
quite acceptable; no obvious formatting difficulties at least with this
example, which was a simple 16-bar tune.  No difference in appearance
between teh freebie program and the fancy one.  Either one could print it
out without any difficulty, and the results looked quite good.

The file size for Orly's tune was 4.45KB, which I thought was reasonably
efficient.  She also sent instructions for a dance, in Microsoft Word.
The dance instructions were not complicated -- no extensive descriptions
of unusual moves, just mostly single-line instructions for each four
-measure subsection (two took one and a half lines), for a total of ten
lines of instruction.  One line describing the set.  One for title, one
for credit, one for dedication.  Total file size: 19.5KB.

My conclusions are:

A) Finale Notepad works well as a receiver of music files in Finale's
format.  It is much simpler than abc or MIDI, at least in my experience,
to get from the file to printed output.  It apparently can handle very
complex files created with other programs in the same file format.
Downloading and installing is straightforward and free.

B) Finale Notepad is adequate for very simple notation jobs and produces
reasonably compact files which can be sent as attachments to e-mail, but
which can't be sent as text.  It is severely limited in its notational and
formatting capabilities, and may be more difficult to learn and more
cumbersome to use for notational purposes than other available free
notation programs.

C) No other complete solution for music file transfer surfaced in this
go-around.  Some other suggestions made were either available only for
Macintosh (which I couldn't try, not being a Mac user) or were not
generally available yet for Windows.  No other specific transfer trials
were proposed and so no others were made.  I did independent MIDI
transfers successfully, and I have used abc in the past, but without the
benefit of interpreting programs on my end.

Bottom line:  anyone whose purposes can be handled by Final Notepad can
send, as an e-mail attachment, a music file to anyone else who can
download Finale Notepad, which is available for Windows & Mac versions.
Furthermore, anyone who has a more sophisticated version of Coda Music's
notation programs (Print Music, Allegro, or Finale) can send a file as an
attachment to anyone with F. Notepad.  File encoding is reasonably
efficient for recent Coda Music versions; older versions produce bigger
files which however still can be read by F. Notepad.  If you need
something to run under Unix or its variants, abc or MIDI are better bets.

Eric Arnold
Ann Arbor
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There is no common definition of english country dance.  It's like
religion in that regard (as well as others).


--- KristVee-AT-
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> what is the common definition of english country dance?  Also can
> anyone give 
> me any trivial facts about folk dances?
> 
> Thanxs


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John,
Why not just send the .bmp file as an attachment -
 save on the bloating caused by word?
Paul

In message <200102140834_MC2-C571-BB4E-AT-
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> Transferring Music via email
> A simple method I use which works well for sending folk music is to scan
> the file and store it in .bmp format, insert it as a picture into a MS Word
> file. Then send the MS Word file as a binary attachment. One tune at once
> only!
> John T   
> 
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JHMTurner wrote:  

>Transferring Music via email
>A simple method I use which works well for sending folk music is to scan
>the file and store it in .bmp format, insert it as a picture into a MS Word
>file. Then send the MS Word file as a binary attachment. One tune at once
>only!
>John T   

Why not just attach the .bmp file?  I have several applications that 
can display the .bmp file, but do not own a copy of the rather expensive 
Microsoft* Word*.

Roger Diggle

*The trademarks "Microsoft" and "Word" are property of the Microsoft 
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I'll chime in here, too.  I don't support Mr. Gates.  In any way.  Period.

Word files are a big PITB for me.  Mr. Gates doesn't think that non-Word
users should be able to open his files, so the standardized translation
software for my Mac doesn't open them unless I too, support Mr. Gates.

Yet another reason to get out of the Microsloth business.

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On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Emily L. Ferguson wrote:

> I'll chime in here, too.  I don't support Mr. Gates.  In any way.  Period.
> 
> Word files are a big PITB for me.  Mr. Gates doesn't think that non-Word
> users should be able to open his files, so the standardized translation
> software for my Mac doesn't open them unless I too, support Mr. Gates.

Actually, Microsoft provides a free program that displays Word files.  It's
called Microsoft 2000 Viewer (but I believe it's compatible with the
pre-Office 2000 format as well), and it's available at:

  http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/downloadDetails/wd97vwr32.htm

No Mac version as far as I know, but there's probably something out there
if you want to take the trouble to look.  I know for sure there's an MS
Word viewer for Linux, and I can't imagine someone hasn't whipped one up
for Macs.

As to the .bmp files, I'm all in favor of simply transferring images of
sheet music, but .bmp is probably the least compact of the available image
formats, and those of us who connect at 28.8kbps (crappy phone lines out
here in the boonies where I live) don't necessarily take it as an act of
friendship to be mailed one.  Try to find something that will convert it to
.jpg.  I use a freeware program called IrvanView, available from all the
usual download sites, and there are millions of others.

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<<As to the .bmp files, I'm all in favor of simply transferring images of
sheet music, but .bmp is probably the least compact of the available image
formats, and those of us who connect at 28.8kbps (crappy phone lines out
here in the boonies where I live) don't necessarily take it as an act of
friendship to be mailed one.  Try to find something that will convert it to
.jpg.  I use a freeware program called IrvanView, available from all the
usual download sites, and there are millions of others>>

One of which is I_view32, which I use for the same purpose. But .bmp files
can also be used as is, if you zip them; since music has a great deal of
white-space on the page, .bmp files usually zip down to a fraction of their
original size, with no loss of resolution.

Peace,
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>Actually, Microsoft provides a free program that displays Word files.  It's
>called Microsoft 2000 Viewer (but I believe it's compatible with the
>pre-Office 2000 format as well), and it's available at:
>
>  http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/downloadDetails/wd97vwr32.htm
>
>No Mac version as far as I know,

Well, I guess since I don't support anything Mr. Gates does, that that sort
of finishes me off, hey?

>but there's probably something out there
>if you want to take the trouble to look.

There is.  It costs $20 and you can't edit, only look.  Or $89.95 it you do
want to edit.


Emily L. Ferguson
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Alan,

Re: "The Black Boy" in the "Ashover Collection"

I have a copy of  "Five Country Dances together with their tunes"
published by the E.F.D.S. (Sheffield Branch) in 1927 (I think - that's
when the Forward was dated).  It contains:
The Russian Dance
Bonnie Cate
Major O'Flacherty
The Duchess of Hamilton's Rant
The Black Boy

Are you interested in just the The Black Boy, or the whole book?

Contact me off list if you like!

Best wishes,
Trevor Monson
(Present Chairman of FISY - Folk in South Yorkshire, which is the new
name for the old South Yorkshire District of EFDSS, before EFDSS
abandoned all its Districts a few years ago in its restructure, which
pre 1982 was most likely the Sheffield Branch!)

----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing <winston-AT-
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To: <ECD-AT-
PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: Need Steps


> Jack Maus wrote:
>
>
> > My group is looking for the steps to the following tunes that appear
in
> > Peter Barnes' work:
>
> > Algeers
>
> I think you want Argeers, which can be found in "The Playford Ball",
> published by CDSS.  (http://www.cdss.org)
>
> > Bath Medley
>
> In "From Two Barns" volume I; CDSS often has volumes of that series,
although
> I suspect volume I is out of print.
>
> > Bellamira
>
> In "Again, Let's Be Merry"; I got my copy from CDSS but I don't know
if it's
> in print.
>
> > Black Boy
>
> Appears to have been published in "The Ashover Collection", of which I
have
> never seen a copy.
>
> > Does anybody have this information?
>
> I reckon somebody on the list will.  (And I hope they'll recollect
that the
> words of modern reconstructions belong to the reconstructors, and not
> distribute them on the list without permission.)
>
> -- Alan
>
>
>
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=======
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>  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:
650/926-3056
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From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing <winston-AT-
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Subject: Re: Need Steps
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Trevor --

I'm most interested in "The Black Boy" because it's in Barnes, which means
I could rely on musicians having the music if I wanted to call the dance,
so one possibility would be your just typing in the notation.

I would love to see the whole book , but I don't know how many pages we're
talking about or how much trouble that would put to you.  If it's out of print 
- which I'm sure it is - I'd be happy to reimburse for copying and postage
expenses if they're anything reasonable - I don't know if we're talking fifteen
pages or 50.

Thanks,

-- Alan

> Alan,

> Re: "The Black Boy" in the "Ashover Collection"

> I have a copy of  "Five Country Dances together with their tunes"
> published by the E.F.D.S. (Sheffield Branch) in 1927 (I think - that's
> when the Forward was dated).  It contains:
> The Russian Dance
> Bonnie Cate
> Major O'Flacherty
> The Duchess of Hamilton's Rant
> The Black Boy

> Are you interested in just the The Black Boy, or the whole book?

> Contact me off list if you like!

> Best wishes,
> Trevor Monson
> (Present Chairman of FISY - Folk in South Yorkshire, which is the new
> name for the old South Yorkshire District of EFDSS, before EFDSS
> abandoned all its Districts a few years ago in its restructure, which
> pre 1982 was most likely the Sheffield Branch!)

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing <winston-AT-
SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
> To: <ECD-AT-
PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 5:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Need Steps


> > Jack Maus wrote:
> >
> >
> > > My group is looking for the steps to the following tunes that appear
> in
> > > Peter Barnes' work:
> >
> > > Algeers
> >
> > I think you want Argeers, which can be found in "The Playford Ball",
> > published by CDSS.  (http://www.cdss.org)
> >
> > > Bath Medley
> >
> > In "From Two Barns" volume I; CDSS often has volumes of that series,
> although
> > I suspect volume I is out of print.
> >
> > > Bellamira
> >
> > In "Again, Let's Be Merry"; I got my copy from CDSS but I don't know
> if it's
> > in print.
> >
> > > Black Boy
> >
> > Appears to have been published in "The Ashover Collection", of which I
> have
> > never seen a copy.
> >
> > > Does anybody have this information?
> >
> > I reckon somebody on the list will.  (And I hope they'll recollect
> that the
> > words of modern reconstructions belong to the reconstructors, and not
> > distribute them on the list without permission.)
> >
> > -- Alan
> >
> >
> >
> ========================================================================
> =======
> >  Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT-
SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
> >  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:
> 650/926-3056
> >  Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA
> 94025
> >
> ========================================================================
> =======
> >





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About 8 pages.  it's a little pamphlet.  I've had it for years.  If you
want it I'll be happy to get around to sending a copy of it to you.

Emily L. Ferguson
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Hi, Victoria. Thank you for your response. You have been very helpful and 
gave me a great starting place!

~Kathryn
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>Actually, Microsoft provides a free program that displays Word files.  It's
>called Microsoft 2000 Viewer (but I believe it's compatible with the
>pre-Office 2000 format as well), and it's available at:


Like Emily we don't support Mr. Gates here either.

Having said that, in my role of Queen of NYQuilts! I often get sent 
files that are the work of others on the royal committee.  I 
generally don't have any problem translating these into AppleWorks or 
WordPerfect with maclinkplus.  (and I have pretty good results 
sending files to others either by saving as a particular format, or 
sending as a .txt file or when all else fails (generally the tech 
ability of the receiver) as a separate email for cutting and pasting)

Sort of an offtrack discussion, but bottom line-- no attachments to 
list mail please.

-- 
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Subject: Ashover collection
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ECDers --

It turns out that a local friend has a copy of the Ashover collection and was
kind enough to offer to lend it to me, so I won't have to take advantage of
anybody's kind offer to mail copies.

So I'm taken care of, but I'm not sure that the original poster who was looking
for the instructions to _The Black Boy_ is.  (Are you out there?  Are you still
looking for notation?)

Thanks to all for their kindness.

-- Alan

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Some folks don't have the where with all to read .BMP files, but the
majority seem to use MS Word.
John T

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>
John,
Why not just send the .bmp file as an attachment -
 save on the bloating caused by word?
Paul
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In a message dated 15/2/01 3:00:56 pm, system-AT-
PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU 
writes:

>About 8 pages.  it's a little pamphlet.  I've had it for years.  If you
>want it I'll be happy to get around to sending a copy of it to you.

It's true that the Society reprinted a small pamphlet after the last war, but 
I suspect Trevor is offering the original book, which had a rather 
delightfully illustrated semi-hard cover and the dances he listed. The 
leaflet reprint omitted Major O'Flacherty's Jig for reasons I have never been 
able to discover, and the original also had facsimiles of all the originals 
in it, again omitted in the leaflet reprint.
    Incidentally, Pat Shaw was firmly of the opinion that Black Boy was a 
compilation of two dances.
    Very glad to hear that Mr Gates does not have a complete monopoly over 
the water!
                                                            Nicolas B., 
Lanark, Scotland.
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----- Original Message -----
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<<Some folks don't have the where with all to read .BMP files, but the
majority seem to use MS Word.>>

Well, as someone (me?) noted, I_view32 and other .bmp viewers can be
downloaded free.

Peace,
Paul

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I have sent music as a .gif on the assumption that all you need is a 
web browser to see it and print it. (And gif is better than jpeg for 
music.)

Only trouble is web browsers see the world at 72 dpi, so anythng 
scanned at, say, 144 dpi comes out as double-sized. At 300 dpi, it's 
more than quadruple. The user must specify a shrink percentage or 
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If you're interested in the tunes in this collection, you can find them in
both midi and sheet music form at www.thefolkmag.co.uk/ashover.htm

Bob Taberner


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There are still openings available for "Celebration of
Spring," Country Dancers of Westchester's annual
English Country Dance Ball. It's scheduled for
Saturday, 17 March 2001. The afternoon dance review
will be from 3pm to 5:30pm, dinner is at 6pm, and the
Ball from 8pm to midnight. It will be held at St.
Thomas Episcopal Church in Mamaroneck, NY.

The entire corps of CDW callers shares the leadership
for the Ball. They are Fried Herman, Carol Martinez,
Gene Murrow, and Paul Ross. Musicians are Leah Barkan,
piano; Norma Castle, flute; Sue Polansky, clarinet;
Tim Macomber, guitar; and John Austin, violin and
viola. 

The regular CDW Thursday workshops at the Church in
the Highlands, White Plains, for February 15th and
March 1st, 8th, and 15th extensively feature the ball
dances in preparation for the event.

For more information, contact Leah Barkan at
(914)693-5577; Susan Murrow at (914)762-8619; or Fried
Herman at (914)834-9350.

If you'd like to attend, you need to apply in advance
to register. Dinner reservations must be received by 7
March 2001.

Complete the form following. Mail it with (1) a
self-addressed, stamped business-sized envelope; (2)
the completed registration form below; and (3) a check
payable to 'Country Dancers of Westchester' for the
appropriate amount. Send it to . . .

	Bea Huppert, Registrar
	16 Continental Drive
	Old Tappan, NJ 07675

Dance instructions and other information will be sent
after receipt of payment.

Cancellation policy: Full refund if before 10 March;
50% refund until 15 March; no refund thereafter.
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 A Celebration of Spring - REGISTRATION APPLICATION

Indicate number of dancers in each category

_____ Dance review, Dinner, & Ball (CDW member, $30.;
non-members, $33)
_____ Dance review & Ball only (CDW member, $20.;
non-members, $23)
_____ Hospitality needed . . _____ Hospitality offered

Total remitted: $________

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Compared with the original manuscript instructions, some of the printed
versions are fanciful in the extreme. For the real version of the Russian
Dance contact me and I will  pass it on  I t is similar to Pat Shaw's but
has differences. Francis

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I have recently been introduced to a book entitled 'The Clogger's Book of
Appalachian Square Dance Figures'
By Shelia Popwell, and would like to obtain a copy.
Copyright 1983 by Burdick Enterprises, Huron, 
Please can anyone advise where I might obtain such a book. 
John Turner
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Try the search engine at www.abebooks.com for a used copy.


Ridge Kennedy
Washington, NJ (No Exit)
When you stumble, make it part of the dance.

> I have recently been introduced to a book entitled 'The Clogger's Book of
> Appalachian Square Dance Figures'
> By Shelia Popwell, and would like to obtain a copy.
> Copyright 1983 by Burdick Enterprises, Huron, 
> Please can anyone advise where I might obtain such a book. 
> John Turner

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Re the inquiry from John Turner:
I don't know if this is any help or not, but the owners of Burdick Enterprises (formerly in Ohio)  moved several years ago; some of their items they sold or transferred to other sources.  They are Stan & Cathie Burdick, PO Box 2678, silver Bay NY 12874; tel. (518)543-8824, fax (518)543-6591.
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Yona  B.  &  Al  Keali'i  Chock
AARDVARK ADVENTURES Family Entertainment
(Yona Chock, The Magic Storyteller)
Artists-in-the-Schools  (American Folk Dance, Storytelling)
Adjunct Colleague of Botany,  University of Hawai'i at Manoa



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ECDers --

Sorry to talk about something other than ECD, but we've had a real rash of
HTML postings on the list.  Outlook, especially, makes it very difficult to
turn off HTML, and we want HTML off for the list.  (There are a flock of good
reasons, mostly being that if you post in plain text everybody can read it,
and if you use HTML you send gibberish to many subscribers.)

Anway, I found this good description of to how to keep Outlook from sending
HTML codes.  If you use Outlook, clip, save, and use.

This was posted to info-vax by John Malmberg, to whom all credit should flow.

Thanks,

- Alan (listowner)

Subject: HOWTO: Disable MIME in OUTLOOK for mailing lists.


There are four places in some versions of Microsoft Outlook that you
have to turn MIME off at.

The first two are on the "send" tab on the options page.

The places for MAIL and NEWS are obvious, but wait, there is one more
check box on that page that overrides them.

Make sure that you clear the check on

"Reply to messages using the format in which they were sent".

If you do not do that, if you are replying to a message that someone
"accidentally" sent in HTML, your reply will go out in HTML also even
if you thought otherwise.

And finally, if you maintain an address book for posting, make sure
that box for "Send E-Mail using plain text only" for sending to mailing
list like ECD.

Be aware that installing an upgrade or Service Pack to Outlook or Windows
may turn any or all of the settings back to sending MIME.


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Just a thank you to all those (in the UK) who supported Halsway Folk Dance
Group at their St Valentine's Dance at Taunton last night; another great
evening with the one and only John Chapman. The band "Jigs for" really came
up trumps with the wonderful music; thanks to all five of you!

Earlier in the day I met Phillipe Callens at Halsway Manor who commented to
me how nice it was to have some UK content on the list! Fancy coming all the
way from Belgium for a weekend, that's enthusiasm for you!
Regards Alan

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For any one coming to the Andrew Shaw/Belshazzar's Feast Workshop and
Dance in Sheffield on 3 March at 2.15 and 7.00 pm, please note the
CHANGE OF VENUE.  Due to the hall being double booked (and we have
lost!) the venue is now:
St. Leonards Church Hall, Everingham Road/Herries Avenue near the
Northern General Hospital in Sheffield.  The hall is 5-10 mins drive
from the normal hall.

For further details, including a map, look at the FISY (Folk in South
Yorkshire) Web page at
www.fisy.freeserve.co.uk  or contact me for even more details and
directions!

Everyone welcome - no ticket required ('cos we don't sell them in
advance!)

Trevor Monson



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Not really. Some of us have done the reverse, i.e. U.K. to Belgium. I
have even known some people go to NEFFA in the US from the U.K. for a
weekend. I also had friend who came from the US to the U.K. specifically
for one of Nic Broadbridge's Purcell Balls.

Graham
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> Just a thank you to all those (in the UK) who supported Halsway Folk Dance
> Group at their St Valentine's Dance at Taunton last night; another great
> evening with the one and only John Chapman. [snip]


I'll pass your comments on to John on Monday next,  when we're playing for
him and Dee at their own club in Stratford.

Ron H



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John,

I forwarded your message to Tom Hinds, an Appalachian clogger (among other
talents).  His reply follows.

Pat

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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 8:11 PM
To: Patricia Ruggiero
Subject: Re: FW: re Kentucky Running Set / Old Time Dancing


Pat,
I probably have a copy of this book stored in a box.
Maybe the National Clogging and Hoedown Council would
know how to get one.  I think Sheila is a white shoe
clogger and this is certainly a white shoe clogging
organization.  The e-mail is clogibbs-AT-
mindspring.com.
Tom

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Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote:
 
> Sorry to talk about something other than ECD, but we've had a real rash of
> HTML postings on the list.  Outlook, especially, makes it very difficult to
> turn off HTML, and we want HTML off for the list.  (There are a flock of good
> reasons, mostly being that if you post in plain text everybody can read it,
> and if you use HTML you send gibberish to many subscribers.)

The newest version of AOL (v 6) is also a bear.  I had heard that you
couldn't turn it off, but a friend assures me there is a way to send
plain text with it -- they just don't make it easy to do.

--Charlene

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Twentieth Centuries
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I could use some advice from the UK members.  I'm going to the Playford
conference in March and need to find a hotel.  I've looked through a few
London guide books, but none of them cover the Camden Town area.  The
web listed several places, but I have no idea what they're like.  Does
anyone have a recommendation?  I'm not too particular; I'm happy as long
as it's clean, safe, and (preferably) not too expensive happy.  I don't
require a television, private phone, or private bath.

Thanks,
--Charlene

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Subject: Bare Necessities Vol. 5
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Dear friends,

The time is approaching to make a final selection of dances/tunes for
Volume 5 of the Boston Centre ECD series featuring Bare Necessities. 
This volume will be devoted to "small" set dances suitable for dancing at
one's home with friends (as well as regular dance parties and Balls). 
Most 2-, 3- and 4-couple ("longways" or square) sets would qualify.  

If you haven't already done so, please forward your favorites for
inclusion on this album!!  Preferably, these should be popular dances
with interesting tunes that do not have good recordings readily
available. 

We're also still considering a title for the album, so we welcome your
ideas about that as well.

I'd like to have a consolidated list of "finalists" for everyone's review
and comments by March 10th. 

Thanks,

Gene Murrow
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Good day all.

I need to obtain authorization to print on a dance booklet and/or post on
the dance website a few dances which (I believe) are still under copyright.
Does anyone know how to reach the authors/copyright holders? 
e-mail, phone or fax contact information is preferred, snail-mail is acceptable.
Very welcome will also be info showing that any of these dances is already
in the public domain and therefore there is no need to obtain the author's
permission.

dance title            author or copyright    already have his/her
                       holder (presumed)       snail-mail address
Ashford anniversary    C. Bolton                 no
Fenterlarick           Y. Walker                 no
Michael and all angels De Metz-Herman            yes
Wood duck              De Metz-Herman            yes
Miss De Jersey's memorial estate of Pat Shaw ?   no
Sally in our alley     J. Schwab                 yes

Thank you for your help. Please reply offline to sbecd-AT-
yahoo.com .

Giovanni De Amici

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As it happens, there's a link from the CDNY page for Mr. Bolton:
:



cboltbroom-AT-
aol.com


Charles Bolton, 20 The Woodlands, Broom, Biggleswade, Beds, SG18 9NH Tel.01767
312 315
Graham Christian
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SunGard Trading and Risk Systems
88 Broad Street, Boston, MA  01880
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Hello! I am a student at NYU in the Dance Education program.  I 
was introduced to ECD in a class I am taking and  I am interested 
in going to an English Country Dance such as those that are held 
at the Metropolitan Duane Hall.

Are there other venues in Manahattan for participating in English 
Country dance? 

What is the difference between English Country Dance and Contra 
dance?



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Subject: Re: question about ECD
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Danielle Morellino wrote:

> Hello! I am a student at NYU in the Dance Education program.  I
> was introduced to ECD in a class I am taking and  I am interested
> in going to an English Country Dance such as those that are held
> at the Metropolitan Duane Hall.

> Are there other venues in Manahattan for participating in English
> Country dance?

I'll let someone local answer that question.

> What is the difference between English Country Dance and Contra
> dance?

In 1775: no difference.

In 2001 in the USA: Differences that are pretty clear to contra and English
dancers but would probably not be obvious (without prompting) to the uninformed
observer. The genres are structurally the same - the basic unit is generally
the pair, and each pair interacts choreographically with other pairs (except
for mixers, where the pairs are temporary and change throughout the dance, and
for certain unusual dances where the basic unit is the threesome).

There's a lot more ballroom-position swinging in contra dance, and more
constant motion for everybody in general.  

May I refer you to my article on the subject?

http://www-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu/~winston/ecd/history.htmlx

Part 2 of the article is a fairly detailed comparison of ECD and Contra.  (Part
1 is a very brief history of the two dance genres, which started out as one.)

-- Alan


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At 09:36 PM 2/20/01 -0500, Danielle S Morellino wrote:
>Hello! I am a student at NYU in the Dance Education program.  I 
>was introduced to ECD in a class I am taking and  I am interested 
>in going to an English Country Dance such as those that are held 
>at the Metropolitan Duane Hall.
>
>Are there other venues in Manahattan for participating in English 
>Country dance? 

Not in Manhattan.  There are occasional English dances in the summer in
Brooklyn.  In addition, you can find English dances fairly nearby in Wayne,
NJ; White Plains [Westchester]; Smithtown, Long Island; Princeton, NJ.

I'm calling this Sunday in Wayne & this coming Tuesday at the CDNY dance at
Duane Church, 201 West 13th St. off Seventh Avenue in Manhattan.  [It's our
Mardi Gras Party & Post-Inaugural Ball...]  Come by and introduce yourself,
and I'll fill you in on how to get to most of the regional dances via
public transportation.

Happy dancing!
Sharon Green
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Subject: Re: permissions for Fenterlarick
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The author of Fenterlarick is Joyce Walker of England and the composer of
the tune Nancy's Delight is Fred Grimshaw, also of England.  I think that
EFDSS in England has addresses for both if you call and request the
Membership Secretary.

Allison
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On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Danielle S Morellino wrote:

> Hello! I am a student at NYU in the Dance Education program.  I
> was introduced to ECD in a class I am taking and  I am interested
> in going to an English Country Dance such as those that are held
> at the Metropolitan Duane Hall.
>
> Are there other venues in Manahattan for participating in English
> Country dance?

  In the City, CDNY is about it.

Will Linden  wlinden-AT-
panix.com
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:24:21 -0500
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I am a student at NYU in the Dance Education Program and I am 
taking a Folk Dance Class.  I have a question about English 
Country Dance.
Are these classes popular around the NYC area and if so how 
would one go about taking a class?

Thanks!
Cynthia Neto

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I am a student at NYU in the Dance Education Program and I am 
taking a Folk Dance Class.  I have a question about English 
Country Dance.
Are these classes popular around the NYC area and if so how 
would one go about taking a class?

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I am a student at NYU in the Dance Education Program and I am 
taking a folk dance class.  I have a question about English Country 
Dance.
Are these classes popular around the NYC area and if so, how 
would one go about taking a class?

Thanks!
Cynthia Neto

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Dear Cynthia:

Please join us!  Country Dance New York holds English Country Dances on 
Tuesday nights from 7:00 to 10:45 p.m. at Metropolitan-Duane Hall, 13th 
Street at 7th Avenue.  It's not far from the NYU campus.  We welcome 
newcomers.

English County Dance (ECD) has a large and loyal following in the New York 
area and around the country (as well as in the UK and Europe).  Country Dance 
New York (CDNY) has been holding dances at Metropolitan-Duane since the 1950s 
-- so we have a long and established tradition in NYC.  Though the history of 
English Country Dance in the US goes back to the early 20th century. 

For more information and a complete schedule of all our dances -- as well as 
useful links to other sites about English Country Dance -- please go to our 
web site: <A HREF="www.cdny.org">www.cdny.org</A>.

We look forward to seeing you soon at a Tuesday English dance!

Best regards,
Suzanne Ford
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>I am a student at NYU in the Dance Education Program and I am
>taking a Folk Dance Class.  I have a question about English
>Country Dance.
>Are these classes popular around the NYC area and if so how
>would one go about taking a class?
>
>Thanks!
>Cynthia Neto



You're the second person to write this week -- please tell us more 
about this class -- is it for credit?  what are your requirements.

Mary Beth Goodman
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Gene Murrow wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> The time is approaching to make a final selection of dances/tunes for
> Volume 5 of the Boston Centre ECD series featuring Bare Necessities.

off the cuff, how about:-

Unrequited Love
The Lace Maker
The Astonished Archaeologist
Dr Vincent's Delight
Measure for Margaret
Braes of Dornoch
Broom the Bonny Broom

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Hugh,

Surely the following have adequate recordings:-

Unrequited Love 		(Hunters Moon)
The Lace Maker			(Mendham's Maytime)
Dr Vincent's Delight	(Not Quite Playford)
Broom the Bonny Broom	(PLA 2).

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The regular, monthly Friday-night (sometimes on
Saturday!) dance party of Country Dancers of
Westchester is on for Friday, 24 February 2001. It
begins at 8pm at the Church in the Highlands, White
Plains, NY, ending at 11pm.

Henry Chapin joins Gene Murrow to call at this party,
and they're supported by an augmented Jack's 80th: The
musicians Margaret Ann Martin (piano); Betsy Blachly
Chapin (percussion); Henry Chapin (violin & double
bass), when not calling; Gene Murrow (concertina &
recorders), when not calling; and Marnen Laibow-Koser
(strings & winds).

Admission is $10 for CDW members, $12 for others.

For more information, call Leah Barkan at
(914)693-5577 or Susan Murrow at (914)762-8619.
 



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At the risk of sounding as if I'm advertising I have plucked up the courage 
to mention the fact that on the Sunday morning Aidan and I will be running a 
workshop for musicians entitled "Playing for Playford today".
    I feel that this may not have been made as widely known as it might have 
been - hence this 'puff'. We had hoped very much to have at least twenty 
musicians at it, but so far numbers are well below that. If you are coming to 
the conference and are a musician, bring your instrument and join us. Music 
will be sent out in advance to those intending to come, so let David Wilson 
know and he will alert me of your intention, so that I can send material out 
to you. If you are coming from abroad and would find bringing an instrument 
difficult/impossible, but would really like to come to the workshop, try 
getting in touch with me direct and I will see if I can arrange an 
instrumental loan!
    One other event: for those who would like something to do in Britain the 
following weekend, how about a weekend in Edinburgh? The Assembly has its 
annual English Country Dance Workshop Weekend, and this year we have as 
teacher Gene Murrow from New York state. This is in the nature of a return 
conversion (Billy Graham?!) as Gene intends to share with us the vibrancy of 
the Englsih Country Dance scene in the USA today, and I suspect hopes thereby 
to revitalize the scene over here .
    e-mail me for further details - you can be assured of a warm welcome at 
either event.
                                                    Nicolas B., Lanark, 
Scotland.
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Hi Gene,

Sorry I have been quite a long time answering this one.
My feelings are that "New York Times" by Colin Hume would suit B.N.
style of playing.
(I hope Colin agrees if you do agree to use it!)
I don't think this is recorded anywhere yet, unlike some requests you
have just had.

Cheers,
Trev.


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> The idea of devoting BN's Volume 6 to "stuff that should have been
> recorded by now but isn't" seems to be gaining some momentum (e.g.
> Sharon's suggestion of Red House at "longways" length).  The Band
> themselves would be happy doing that, and they recognize that their
style
> is more suited to that theme than the originally proposed "community
> dances" theme.  Also, several folks have noted that music suitable for
> community dances is well represented in recordings, especially by
English
> bands.  Of course, the Boston Centre recording committee and Board do
> have a say.
>
> Trevor and Marian... we owe you one!  What's your pleasure?
>
> Gene Murrow
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Nic said:-

>     One other event: for those who would like something to do in
Britain the
> following weekend, how about a weekend in Edinburgh? The Assembly has
its
> annual English Country Dance Workshop Weekend, and this year we have
as
> teacher Gene Murrow from New York state. This is in the nature of a
return
> conversion (Billy Graham?!) as Gene intends to share with us the
vibrancy of
> the Englsih Country Dance scene in the USA today, and I suspect hopes
thereby
> to revitalize the scene over here .
>     e-mail me for further details - you can be assured of a warm
welcome at
> either event.


Following on from that, if anyone makes it up to Scotland, on their way
back south they are welcome to a workshop/dance with Gene Murrow (again)
and music by Fiona Maurice-Smith (of Dargason, Two's Company and Wysiwyg
fame) in SHEFFIELD (South Yorkshire) on Tuesday 3rd April at 7.30 pm.
(Anybody else is welcome by the way!)
Further details from me if interested.

Trevor Monson.




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Hello, everyone,

Those who live within driving distance of our beloved Amherst,
Massachusetts, will want to note this alert about two dances happening here
on March 17 & 18, 2001.

Jacqueline Schwab will be our M. C./caller for an open-to-all-comers English
Country Dance on Sat night, with music by Pleasures of the Town and guest
Chris Rua; and also for an Advanced English Dance for experienced dancers on
Sunday afternoon, with music by Mary Lea, Doug Creighton, and Amy Cann.

Both events are at the lovely Munson Library in South Amherst, MA, where the
acoustics allow the band to play without amplification (we love that).

Here are further details:

Sat night, Mar 17, 8-11 pm, $7.

Sun afternoon, Mar 18, 2-5 pm, $10 (includes buffet of delicious treats &
sandwiches & refreshing drinks)

We hope many of you can join us!  Those who know Jacqueline only as the
pianist for Bare Necessities, numerous Ken Burns documentaries, and many
instrumental recordings, will be delighted to experience her talent and
skill in teaching and calling.

For directions, write to me at <joycecrouch-AT-
pobox.com> (BTW, please note my
new email addr).  For info, call Ruth Feldberg, (413) 253-3828.

The June surprise?  It's Philippe Callens, coming from Belgium to the
Amherst area  on June 16-17, 2001, to lead a workshop of his own dances and
a special June Advanced Dance.  More details TBA, but save the dates now!!

Happy dancing,
Joyce Crouch
Amherst, MA, USA  

 
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> two dances happening here on March 17 & 18, 2001.

Do you know someone I might stay with overnight, so as to
attend both dances?

> The June surprise?  It's Philippe Callens...

WOW!

Thanks,
Lyrl

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Sorry, I meant that to go only to Joyce.

--L.

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on 2/23/01 10:34 PM, Lyrl Catherine Ahern at lyrl-AT-
yahoo.com wrote:

>> The June surprise?  It's Philippe Callens...
> 
> WOW!

hmmm...  Although Philippe certainly deserves any WOW!'s he gets, I wonder
if I may need to correct a mistaken impression caused by poor wording on my
part.  He is not coming all the way from Belgium just to call for us in
Amherst.  We are simply taking advantage of his plans to be in New England
prior to being on staff at the Boston Centre Pinewoods Weekend, which is
June 28 - July 2).

Thank you, Lyrl, for making the error that allowed me to correct my own
error!  (now, I just have to make sure I'm really sending this to the whole
List, and not just to Lyrl...!)

Joyce Crouch
Amherst, MA


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Hi, I am new to the folk dancing scene and am looking for some guidance as to where i could find good information about certain folk dance styles, from their origins, to modern-day presence, and specific dances one could reconstruct or even use in a classroom setting to teach dancers.  If anyone knows of certain books, collections, encyclopedias, websites or anything else that could help me out, I would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks so much!!!  -Sharon 
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This is to announce a new event, the Whately Assembly
An evening of English Country Dance at the Whately Dance Barn in Whately
Massachusetts on Saturday, June 9, 2001.
Music by Bare Necessities
Mistresses of ceremonies:  Helen Davenport & Mary Jones
Advance registration is required.  Your share of the cost is $25 per
person..
Afternoon review at 2:00 p.m., potluck dinner, and then dance at 7:00
p.m.
Refreshments during the dance will be provided, but contributions of
desserts or fruit are welcome.
Period or formal dress suggested.  Dressing rooms available.
Program of dances with instructions and directions to our dance hall will
be provided by mail.  Initial acceptance will be, if possible, by e-mail.
Please include your e-mail address,
Limited attention to gender balance.
For more information, contact Richard or Flora at 
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 Mail registration to R. Chamlin, PO Box 2915, Amherst, MA 01004

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Registration Form
Name     _______________________________________      How many people?
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Address  __________________________________      Telephone
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#	List names of additional people.  If you wish your
name(s) to be written 	      differently on your name tag, please so
indicate. 
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re Gene Murrow's UK trip
At 7.30pm on Sat 7th April Gene is at Colbury Hall, Totton, Nr Southampton.
with Musicians Pete & Sue Hall.
All welcome, Tickets from John Turner 023 8036 0892
and on Sunday 8th April at 10.30 am (till 3.30pm), Gene will lead a
workshop with musicians Alison Ellacott & Thomas Bending at Soberton
Village Hall, North of Fareham, Hants.

John Turner (023 8036 0892)

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Following on from that, if anyone makes it up to Scotland, on their way
back south they are welcome to a workshop/dance with Gene Murrow (again)
and music by Fiona Maurice-Smith (of Dargason, Two's Company and Wysiwyg
fame) in SHEFFIELD (South Yorkshire) on Tuesday 3rd April at 7.30 pm.
(Anybody else is welcome by the way!)
Further details from me if interested.
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Gene,

Could you post your calling itinerary for while you are over here in the
UK.

Thanks,

Graham
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A bunch of us (let's see... me, my wife (Julie Raskin), Orly
Krasner, Lucy & Mark Weinstein, Gene & Susan Murrow, Judy
Grunberg, Lucy Young, did I miss anybody? Apologies) were sitting
around a large table at Judy's restaurant after the Flurry last
week thinking up examples of Yiddish-ized English Country Dance
names. It's taken a week to determine just who was going to be the
one to post the results here, and it looks like it falls to me.

Without further ado:
______________________________________________

Shlepping Forest
The Old Mohel
John Canon's Tallis
Kvell Hall
Orleans Farblundged
Dear Zayde and Dear Bubbi
Juice of Prunes
Early-Bird Special (One?) Morning
Shlep Stately
Picking up Shtiks
Picking Up Shiksas
Shtup with Aily
Up with Oy Vey
The Jovial Schnorer
Scotch Kipa
Scotch Moishe
Maven on a Cree
Bar a Bar Mitzvah
The Shvartze Nag
Mr. Isaac's Megillah
Rufty Shmufty
Levi Jackson Shmatte
Knish Park
Shmoozing Mairi
Randolph Shalom
Erev Pesach
Oy After Sorrow
Nu, Beginning?
Takke, a Dance
Chana
Meshugganah Robin
Trip to Miami Beach
Jewish Lamentation
Milchik Knives and Forks
The Rebbetzin (First Lady)
Good Mensch of Ballangigh
The Kiddish Cup
Shepherd's YomTov
The Fair Kvetcher of Deale
The Yente Joan
I Care Not For These Yentes
The Jewish-American Princess
Minyan Lane
News from Teaneck
Son-the-Doctor Assembly
Sun Minyan
Epsom Salts New Wells
Mayim for Malke (Gigue for Jenny)
Baby Boomer's Bris
The Maven Sweetly Sings
Myle-chrain
Mandlen (Chestnut)
The Shmutzig Miller
True Bris
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Ventilator   Concertina
  Bellows      Bellows
(Vocation)   (Avocation
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At 11:04 AM 2/26/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Myle-chrain
(snip)
>True Bris

On behalf of True Bris [aka True Brit Weekend, 10/5-8/01], all I can say is
My, lechaim...

Semi-apologetically,
Sharon
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Helen, if you're out there, or if anyone knows Helen's current email
address, could you contact me, please.

thanks.

Emily L. Ferguson
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You missed "A Dutch Skipper Already?", "Bloom, the Bonny Bloom" and "Der
Wood Katchke".

Peace,
Paul

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Dear Yiddish Scholars,

"The Brother-In-Law"  ...was "The Begger Boy"

Respectfully,

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 Hello my dear...I'm here listening to all of you...I'm not much of a conversationalist particularly if I have to type it...my one finger gets tired...how are you?...long time no see. The email address is dancerhiker-AT-
yahoo.com or 860-285-8694 or 1058 Plymouth St. Windsor, CT 06095

  "Emily L. Ferguson" <elf-AT-
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Helen, if you're out there, or if anyone knows Helen's current email
address, could you contact me, please.

thanks.

Emily L. Ferguson
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New England landscapes, wooden boats and races, press photography
Beetle cats on the web at:
http://www.beetlecat.com/gifts.htm
http://www.capecod.net/sqtg/nebcba/results/99champs.html
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<P> Hello my dear...I'm here listening to all of you...I'm not much of a conversationalist particularly if I have to type it...my one finger gets tired...how are you?...long time no see. The email address is <A href="mailto:dancerhiker-AT-
yahoo.com">dancerhiker-AT-
yahoo.com</A> or 860-285-8694 or 1058 Plymouth St. Windsor, CT 06095<BR>
<P>&nbsp; <B><I>"Emily L. Ferguson" &lt;elf-AT-
cape.com&gt;</I></B> wrote: <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Helen, if you're out there, or if anyone knows Helen's current email<BR>address, could you contact me, please.<BR><BR>thanks.<BR><BR>Emily L. Ferguson<BR>elf-AT-
cape.com 508-563-6822<BR>New England landscapes, wooden boats and races, press photography<BR>Beetle cats on the web at:<BR>http://www.beetlecat.com/gifts.htm<BR>http://www.capecod.net/sqtg/nebcba/results/99champs.html<BR>http://www.capecod.net/sqtg/nebcba/store.html#yrbook<BR>landscape at:<BR>http://www.capecodlife.com/CCD/regions/upper_cape.html<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
<a href="http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=mailiyfoot">Yahoo! Mail Personal Address</a> - 
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Aaak.  Kiddo.  Touch typing ain't that hard!

Emily L. Ferguson
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Beetle cats on the web at:
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LOL! Thanks, I needed that. Excuse me, I gotta go--I'm feeling a little
farklempt.

Dawn Culbertson
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yeah but you have to take the time to learn it....;)
  "Emily L. Ferguson" <elf-AT-
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Aaak. Kiddo. Touch typing ain't that hard!

Emily L. Ferguson
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<P> <BR>yeah but you have to take the time to learn it....;)
<P>&nbsp; <B><I>"Emily L. Ferguson" &lt;elf-AT-
cape.com&gt;</I></B> wrote: <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Aaak. Kiddo. Touch typing ain't that hard!<BR><BR>Emily L. Ferguson<BR>elf-AT-
cape.com 508-563-6822<BR>New England landscapes, wooden boats and races, press photography<BR>Beetle cats on the web at:<BR>http://www.beetlecat.com/gifts.htm<BR>http://www.capecod.net/sqtg/nebcba/results/99champs.html<BR>http://www.capecod.net/sqtg/nebcba/store.html#yrbook<BR>landscape at:<BR>http://www.capecodlife.com/CCD/regions/upper_cape.html<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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This must be the famous Aidan BROADBRIDGE whose name I once spelt wrongly?
ABC
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At the risk of sounding as if I'm advertising I have plucked up the courage
to mention the fact that on the Sunday morning Aidan and I will be running a
workshop for musicians entitled "Playing for Playford today".
    I feel that this may not have been made as widely known as it might have
been - hence this 'puff'. We had hoped very much to have at least twenty
musicians at it, but so far numbers are well below that. If you are coming
to
the conference and are a musician, bring your instrument and join us. Music
will be sent out in advance to those intending to come, so let David Wilson
know and he will alert me of your intention, so that I can send material out
to you. If you are coming from abroad and would find bringing an instrument
difficult/impossible, but would really like to come to the workshop, try
getting in touch with me direct and I will see if I can arrange an
instrumental loan!
    One other event: for those who would like something to do in Britain the
following weekend, how about a weekend in Edinburgh? The Assembly has its
annual English Country Dance Workshop Weekend, and this year we have as
teacher Gene Murrow from New York state. This is in the nature of a return
conversion (Billy Graham?!) as Gene intends to share with us the vibrancy of
the Englsih Country Dance scene in the USA today, and I suspect hopes
thereby
to revitalize the scene over here .
    e-mail me for further details - you can be assured of a warm welcome at
either event.
                                                    Nicolas B., Lanark,
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I have Freed Grimshaw's address if you still need it.
Alan Corkett
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The author of Fenterlarick is Joyce Walker of England and the composer of
the tune Nancy's Delight is Fred Grimshaw, also of England.  I think that
EFDSS in England has addresses for both if you call and request the
Membership Secretary.

Allison
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Hi Kathryn
Another UK reply.
Re Country Dancing for Children
Peter Hendy of Stroud, UK, is in the process of publishing a book via Folk
Camps Society on this very subject together with a CD of the music required
made by youngsters at the school where he used to teach.
 I will tell you more when it is available in a couple of months time but if
you want to contact Pete beforehand his address is attached.
Regards
Alan
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Hi Kathryn
A UK respondent here.
The English Folk Dance & Song Society has published several books
specifically aimed at teaching ECD to school children. The UK slant may be
different but they should provide a good base to start from.
One of them is entitled 'Traditional British & Other Dances for National
Curriculum KS2' by Diana Jewitt
Another recent publication is entitled 'From Monarch to Mudlark' and
focuses on Victorian Dance.

Contact EFDSS on 44 20 7485 2206
their website is http://www.efdss.org/

Alternatively try
Derek & Ann Appleing of Cheltenham UK. They run a very comprehensive
bookshop, email address:
Derek-Ann-AT-
folksales.freeserve.co.uk

or Graham Knight, who also runs a small book shop (Graham's wife Wendy is
one of the co-authors (I believe) of 'From Monarch to Mudlark' and has
written at least one other book on ECD for children). Email address:
graham-AT-
gcknight.demon.co.uk

Good Luck
John Turner


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>I am doing a project for school about English Country Dance and I am
writing
to get some information. I am in the Dance Education program at NYU and I
was
wondering if there were any particular ECD forms that were more widely used

in the classroom to teach children about social forms. I am student
teaching
at an inner city public school and I would like to enlighten my kids to
dance
forms they are not used to. If anyone has a suggestion as where to begin
with
ECD I would appreciate it. Thanks!

~Kathryn Wilkening

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[Alan speaking, for the moment.  Many of you may have already seen this note
that got sent to contact people for CDSS centers about an English dance
leader's course at Pinewoods this summer.  While I don't particularly want the
ECD list clogged up with everybody who's ever teaching anything at a summer
camp advertising it, it seemed to me that this course was extremely relevant
to the list, and that the ECD list reaches people who aren't necessarily
attached to CDSS centers.  Therefore, with permission, I'm forwarding this 
note.]


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Dear Centers,

We are offering a caller's course at Pinewoods English Week (August 11-18)
and would like your help in giving it the best leverage possible. We want to
make it available to promising new callers in areas with no center, or who
are in established centers but have no mentor. You know the people we mean
-- the ones who will clearly make a difference to the dance scene. We'd like
to make that difference larger, more positive, or sooner. This is not a
request for each center to nominate a person -- registration is limited to
8. We are asking you to help us find people whom our advertising might not
reach, or to point out people worthy of special notice. If that person is
you (e.g. if you're the secretary, chairman, organizer and caller all rolled
into one) don't be shy about saying so: you're probably the sort of person
we're trying to reach!

Thank you.

    -Bruce Hamilton

and
Steve Howe
Program Coordinator

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The 2001 season information is now up on the web at
http://www.cdss.org/programs/2001
The hard copy has been mailed to our mailing list. 
If you would like a copy, please let me [Steve Howe] know.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
                     2001 Dates
Buffalo Gap			Date		Program Directors
DANCE WEEK 			July 7-14 2001	Alisa Dodson
ENGLISH DANCE MUSICIANS COURSE	July 7-14 2001	Jacqueline Schwab
FAMILY WEEK			July 14-21 2001 Steve Hickman & DeLaura Padovan
			
Ogontz			
FAMILY WEEK		July 28-August 4 2001	Andy & Robin Davis
			
Pinewoods			
EARLY MUSIC WEEK		Jul 14-21 2001 	Larry Lipkis
AMERICAN DANCE & MUSIC WEEK	July 21-28 2001	Paul Brown
AMERICAN DANCE CALLERS COURSE	July 21-28 2001	Larry Edelman
CAMPERS' WEEK		July 28-August 4 2001	Scott Higgs
ENGLISH & AMERICAN DANCE WEEK 	August 4-11 2001	Brad Foster
AMERICAN DANCE MUSICIANS COURSE	August 4-11 2001	Mary Lea
ENGLISH DANCE WEEK 		August 11-18 2001	Gene Murrow
ENGLISH DANCE LEADERS COURSE	August 11-18 2001	Bruce Hamilton
FAMILY WEEK			August 18-25 2001	Charlie & Cecily Pilzer
FOLK MUSIC WEEK		August 25-September 1 2001	Sara Grey

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On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:07:20 +0000 graham-AT-
gcknight.demon.co.uk writes:
> Gene,
> 
> Could you post your calling itinerary for while you are over here in 
> the UK.

In the interest of keeping the "who's doing what where" clutter to a
minimum, let me refer interested folks to a detailed listing of my
itinerary on Colin Hume's web site at: 
www.colinhume.freeserve.co.uk/colin.htm [click the button labelled "Gene
Murrow Tour" at the top of the home page].

I'd be delighted and flattered to see ECD-list'ers at any or all of the
dances and workshops in England, Scotland, and Belgium, from March 24 -
May 8, and would be happy to provide more information off-list.

Thanks!

Gene Murrow
EC Dancer, Caller, Musician, and bringer of coals to Newcastle
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Jews of Barley
Take a Mikvah
Oy vey is mir, what mohn I do?

yehudit
> A bunch of us (let's see... me, my wife (Julie Raskin), Orly
> Krasner, Lucy & Mark Weinstein, Gene & Susan Murrow, Judy
> Grunberg, Lucy Young, did I miss anybody? Apologies) were sitting
> around a large table at Judy's restaurant after the Flurry last
> week thinking up examples of Yiddish-ized English Country Dance
> names. It's taken a week to determine just who was going to be the
> one to post the results here, and it looks like it falls to me.
> 
> Without further ado:
> ______________________________________________
> 
> Shlepping Forest
> The Old Mohel
> John Canon's Tallis
> Kvell Hall
> Orleans Farblundged
> Dear Zayde and Dear Bubbi
> Juice of Prunes
> Early-Bird Special (One?) Morning
> Shlep Stately
> Picking up Shtiks
> Picking Up Shiksas
> Shtup with Aily
> Up with Oy Vey
> The Jovial Schnorer
> Scotch Kipa
> Scotch Moishe
> Maven on a Cree
> Bar a Bar Mitzvah
> The Shvartze Nag
> Mr. Isaac's Megillah
> Rufty Shmufty
> Levi Jackson Shmatte
> Knish Park
> Shmoozing Mairi
> Randolph Shalom
> Erev Pesach
> Oy After Sorrow
> Nu, Beginning?
> Takke, a Dance
> Chana
> Meshugganah Robin
> Trip to Miami Beach
> Jewish Lamentation
> Milchik Knives and Forks
> The Rebbetzin (First Lady)
> Good Mensch of Ballangigh
> The Kiddish Cup
> Shepherd's YomTov
> The Fair Kvetcher of Deale
> The Yente Joan
> I Care Not For These Yentes
> The Jewish-American Princess
> Minyan Lane
> News from Teaneck
> Son-the-Doctor Assembly
> Sun Minyan
> Epsom Salts New Wells
> Mayim for Malke (Gigue for Jenny)
> Baby Boomer's Bris
> The Maven Sweetly Sings
> Myle-chrain
> Mandlen (Chestnut)
> The Shmutzig Miller
> True Bris
> ______________________________________________
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>  <______>     | | | | |  David Barnert
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>  <______>     | | | | |  Albany, N.Y.
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> 
> Ventilator   Concertina
>   Bellows      Bellows
> (Vocation)   (Avocation
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Did we forget Schlepper's Holiday, Naches from Tripoly, The Schvartze Nudzh 
(in pref to nag)  or Hit or Mitzvah?

Judy G.
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And for your holiday theme program, there's the one David Green suggested in 
the car en route to a Westchester dance recently: Lulavburlero
Not to mention Yentalarick (another of David's contributions).

Moving right along. . . .

There's also:
Alshul
Hannah Miriam
Schvartze Jake
Scheitels So Blue*
Every Lad His Beschert*
Miss De Jersey's Kaddish
Oil the Lox
The Schmatte
Grossinger's Round*
Zion House

(*Explanations upon request)

And now, I'm going to sleep.
--Orly.




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With apologies to those who are not within driving distance of central New
Jersey, USA...

LCD's first Friday English dance for March has been moved to the Suzanne
Patterson Center in Princeton (PCD's regular dance location) because of
problems with the floor in the Titusville church hall.

Directions: 
<http://www.princetonol.com/groups/pcd/directions/dir_SPC.html>

If you would like to be kept informed about future location changes,
please e-mail me at the address below.

As for the other details...

When: 8-11 p.m.

Who: Gene Murrow calling to the music of John Burkhalter, recorders;
Susie Lorand, fiddle, viola, recorders; and Ellen Tepper, harps

Clean, soft-soled shoes are required.  There's an admission discount for
anyone bringing home-made goodies for the break.  Check the LCD web page
at <http://www.princetonol.com/groups/pcd/lcd/index.html> for more
info., or e-mail me before 5 p.m. this Friday.

Hope to see you there!

--Susie Lorand
srl-AT-
princeton.edu, srlorand-AT-
monmouth.com