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I need some advice. An American has asked to have CDs sent to the USA.
("Live Music from Halsway Manor" -  listen to samples on
www.halswaymanor.co.uk)
 How much do I need to add on to cover changing currencies and postage and
packing on a CD costing £10 (ten pounds sterling)  in the UK, and I suppose
the other question is, Is it too late for Xmas?
Thanks Alan
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Date: 24 November 2000 23:08
Subject: Re: Seven Jumps


Alan, the dance is Seven Jumps, published in Bob Dalsemer's Folk Dance Fun
for Schools & Families.  It's apparently a Danish dance that exists in many
variants.  In the A music everyone circles left & right.  In the B music
everyone claps & stamps [3 claps, 3 stamps, done 4 times] or jogs in place.
Then the caller tells everyone to perform a particular action ["Shake your
right leg" or "Get down on your right knee."  You do the dance six more
times, each time adding another action.  The grand finale generally has
everyone rolling on the floor.

As far as I can tell, there is no one right way to do the dance.  You might
as well have fun!

Cheers,
Sharon

Here's a description of a variant of the dance which came up on a Google
search:

"Instead of stepping six times and then jumping on seven, which makes sense
because it is called Seven Jumps, she [Phyllis Weikart] had the children
jog in place during the music.  Then when the chords were added, the first
four movements were the same as in STM. (One knee, the other knee, one
elbow, the other elbow)  The last three were to drop flat on your stomach,
turnover flat on your back and finally stick you arms and legs straight in
the air and wiggle them wildly until the piece ends. (I know, I know, ON
THE FLOOR!  Its what keeps music teachers young, or kills us!)"


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  Dear Sharon,
Hi Sharon,

At 10:15 AM 11/15/00 -0500, you wrote:
May I have a copy of Trip to Woodstock?  I think it would be lovely to call
it around here over the holidays.

My previous version of the dance had an error in B1, so I'm sending you 
this updated version.

I intended to send it to the CDS newsletter in September so it would be 
available for Christmas dances. However, I didn't get around to doing that 
so I'm sending it to the ECD list now (better late than never) just in case 
anyone else wants a seasonal 'Christmassy' dance.

I credit my finally following through with this effort to your timely 
prompting and the winter cold (the death of my car battery creating a time 
window and an excuse to be late for work).

thanks for your encouragement & hope to see you dancing soon,

Don


*************************************************************************************
Instructions with music at:
http://www.rpi.edu/~belld2/triptowoodstock.htm

TRIP TO WOODSTOCK - longways duple minor, Don Bell, August 2000. Tune: 
'Ding Dong Merrily' (Branle l'officiel' from Thoinot Arbeau, 
Orchesographie, 1589) The long 'trip' by the 1st couple in part B is 
reminiscent of my first roundabout car trip to call a dance in 
Woodstock,NY. The high point of the evening was a collaboration between the 
4 dancers (all men), 9 band members and myself composing this dance. Thanks 
also go to Rensselaer English Country Dancers and participants in Gene 
Murrow's Dance Choreography Workshop at Pinewoods (Aug 2000)for helpful 
comments. In the B part the first couple may enjoy imagining they are 
taking a winding sleigh ride down a long hill.

A1: PARTNERS SET RIGHT & LEFT, TURN SINGLE RIGHT  (back to place)

A2: CORNERS SET RIGHT & LEFT (towards each other), FALL BACK (to place)

B1: 1s CROSS BY THE RIGHT SHOULDER DOWN THE OUTSIDE TO SECOND POSITION, 2s 
MOVE UP
1s 1/2 FIGURE 8 THRU  2s ABOVE  (end progressed &  proper)

B2: 2s GATE  ORIGINAL 1s UP THE CENTER & DOWN THE OUTSIDE
NEW 2s GATE NEW 1s DOWN THE MIDDLE & UP THE OUTSIDE  

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<html>
&nbsp;Dear Sharon,<br>
Hi Sharon,<br>
<br>
At 10:15 AM 11/15/00 -0500, you wrote:<br>
May I have a copy of Trip to Woodstock?&nbsp; I think it would be lovely
to call<br>
it around here over the holidays.<br>
<br>
My previous version of the dance had an error in B1, so I'm sending you
this updated version.<br>
<br>
I intended to send it to the CDS newsletter in September so it would be
available for Christmas dances. However, I didn't get around to doing
that so I'm sending it to the ECD list now (better late than never) just
in case anyone else wants a seasonal 'Christmassy' dance.<br>
<br>
I credit my finally following through with this effort to your timely
prompting and the winter cold (the death of my car battery creating a
time window and an excuse to be late for work).<br>
<br>
thanks for your encouragement &amp; hope to see you dancing soon,<br>
<br>
Don <br>
<br>
<br>
<b><i>*************************************************************************************<br>
Instructions with music at:<br>
</i></b><a href="http://www.rpi.edu/~belld2/triptowoodstock.htm" eudora="autourl">http://www.rpi.edu/~belld2/triptowoodstock.htm<br>
<br>
</a><b><i>TRIP TO WOODSTOCK</b> - longways duple minor, Don Bell, August
2000. Tune: 'Ding Dong Merrily' (<font face="Courier New, Courier">Branle
l'officiel' from Thoinot Arbeau, Orchesographie, 1589) </font>The long
'trip' by the 1st couple in part B is reminiscent of
<font face="Courier New, Courier">my first roundabout car trip to call a
dance in Woodstock,NY. The high point of the evening was a collaboration
between the 4 dancers (all men), 9 band members and myself composing this
dance. Thanks also go to Rensselaer English Country Dancers and
participants in Gene Murrow’s Dance Choreography Workshop at Pinewoods
(Aug 2000)for helpful comments. In the B part the first couple may enjoy
imagining they are taking a winding sleigh ride down a long hill. <br>
<br>
</i></font>A1: PARTNERS SET RIGHT &amp; LEFT, TURN SINGLE RIGHT&nbsp;
(back to place) <br>
<br>
A2: CORNERS SET RIGHT &amp; LEFT (towards each other), FALL BACK (to
place)<br>
<br>
B1: 1s CROSS BY THE RIGHT SHOULDER DOWN THE OUTSIDE TO SECOND POSITION,
2s MOVE UP<br>
1s 1/2 FIGURE 8 THRU&nbsp; 2s ABOVE&nbsp; (end progressed &amp;&nbsp;
proper)<br>
<br>
B2: 2s GATE&nbsp; ORIGINAL 1s UP THE CENTER &amp; DOWN THE OUTSIDE<br>
NEW 2s GATE NEW 1s DOWN THE MIDDLE &amp; UP THE OUTSIDE&nbsp; </html>

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                  The Central Illinois English Country Dancers
                                   Present An

                   E N G L I S H   C O U N T R Y   D A N C E
                          C H R I S T M A S   B A L L


   The Central Illinois English Country Dancers will be holding their sixth
annual Christmas Ball on Saturday, December 16, 2000.  The dance will be held
at the Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana, IL, on the campus
of the University of Illinois.  There will be a warm up session from 7:00 to
8:00 with a review of the basics of English country dance as well as some of
the evening's dances.  The Ball will follow from 8:00 to 11:00 p.m.  Fans and
finery are encouraged.  Bring fruit or a dessert to share.  There is a $5.00
suggested donation to help cover the cost of the Ball.  We ask that dancers
wear soft soled shoes to help protect the dance floor and avoid using
excessive amounts of perfume for the benefit of others that may experience
allergic reactions.  All dances will be taught and all lovers of English
country dance and music are welcome.

Dances Lead By: Susan Burt, Jane Hobgood and Jonathan Sivier
Music Provided By: The Flatland Consort
Warm Up Session: 7:00 p.m.
Christmas Ball: 8:00 to 11:00 p.m.
Date: Saturday, December 16, 2000
Location: Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana, IL
Suggested Donation: $5.00

   There will be refreshments and a mummers' play at the break and a dessert
party following the dance.

   The evening's dances will be selected from the following list:

Elizabeth - duple minor longways
Gay Gordons - circle mixer
The Girl I Left Behind Me - triple minor longways
A Grand March
Heartsease - 2 couples
Holborn March - duple minor longways
Jenny Pluck Pears - 3 couple circle
Lull Me Beyond Thee - 4 couple longways
Rakes of Rochester - duple minor longways
Red House - duple minor longways
Shropshire Lass - 3 couple longways
Waltz Country Dance - Sicilian circle
Well Hall - duple minor longways

   For further information contact Jonathan Sivier (j-sivier-AT-
uiuc.edu) at
217/359-8225 or Jane Hobgood at 217/328-1708.  You can check the Christmas
Ball website at http://www.prairienet.org/ciecd/xmas.html

   For those who are interested, the Urbana Country Dancers will be holding a
contra dance on Friday, December 15, from 8 to 11 p.m. at the Phillip's
Recreation Center, 505 W. Stoughton, Urbana.  Deborah Hyland from St. Louis
will be calling and the band will be The Prairie Dogs.

   Central Illinois English Country Dancers is affiliated with the Champaign
Park District and a member of the Champaign County Cultural Consortium.


                    If we don't see you at the Ball,
                    Then 'Happy Hols' to one and all!


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|  j-sivier-AT-
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|  Beckman Institute             |                                      |
|  405 N. Mathews                |  SWMDG - Single White Male           |
|  Urbana, IL  61801             |          Dance Gypsy                 |
|  Work: 217/244-1923            |                                      |
|  Home: 217/359-8225            |  Have shoes, will dance.             |
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I'm crushed!

When I heard that the Modern Treasures cd was out containing the tune
"Winter Solstice," I rushed to the telephone and ordered it.  At last, I
thought, I get to hear the mystery tune, the tune for which neither
recordings nor sheet music are available in the United States!

And the band played . . . . "Early One Morning,"  a tune that I can never
hear without also having to hear the horridly sappy lyrics in my head.
"While the dance has its own tune (the jig "Winter Solstice" by David Dean,
published with the dance directions), Bare Necessities and the Boston Centre
enjoy the graceful quality lent by the folk song . . . . "

WAAAAAH!

Does anyone have a US source for either the sheet music or a recording of
"Winter Solstice" by David Dean?

Marian


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Seeing this email about a ball which was the SIXTH occurrence of the event,
set me thinking about how long we have been doing things in England!
I have just been typing an advert for the 33rd Devon Playford (I guess that
what you call English country dancing!) Weekend at Halsway Manor, 30th
March - 1stApril, 2001. But we get used to these high numbers where all
these clubs that started in the square dance boom in the 50's & 60's, the
craze that came over from the States in that period. Now of course they
celebrate every ten years and so the numbers rise, soon we'll see all these
people congratulating themselves on dancing for 50 years!  I suppose it is
what comes of living so long, and I guess that 6 years can be a long time if
you are doing all the organising and selling the tickets and persuading
people to come!
Anyway Happy dancing & Happy Christmas
Alan Corkett
and Thanks for all the letter telling me how to send CDs to the USA.
If you are over here!... then come to my Twelfth Night Revels at Halsway
Manor; King of Misrule is Brian Heaton; Music from myself & Friends, with
Dancing, Singing, Morris & Sword and Mumming and mince pies and mulled wine,
you name it we got it - only £3.50pounds sterling. £12 to include dinner £32
to include bed & breakfast. £96.10 to stay the whole weekend!
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Date: 04 December 2000 20:48
Subject: Christmas Ball 12/16 in Illinois


                  The Central Illinois English Country Dancers
                                   Present An

                   E N G L I S H   C O U N T R Y   D A N C E
                          C H R I S T M A S   B A L L


   The Central Illinois English Country Dancers will be holding their sixth
annual Christmas Ball on Saturday, December 16, 2000.  The dance will be
held
at the Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana, IL, on the campus
of the University of Illinois.  There will be a warm up session from 7:00 to
8:00 with a review of the basics of English country dance as well as some of
the evening's dances.  The Ball will follow from 8:00 to 11:00 p.m.  Fans
and
finery are encouraged.  Bring fruit or a dessert to share.  There is a $5.00
suggested donation to help cover the cost of the Ball.  We ask that dancers
wear soft soled shoes to help protect the dance floor and avoid using
excessive amounts of perfume for the benefit of others that may experience
allergic reactions.  All dances will be taught and all lovers of English
country dance and music are welcome.

Dances Lead By: Susan Burt, Jane Hobgood and Jonathan Sivier
Music Provided By: The Flatland Consort
Warm Up Session: 7:00 p.m.
Christmas Ball: 8:00 to 11:00 p.m.
Date: Saturday, December 16, 2000
Location: Channing-Murray Foundation, 1209 W. Oregon, Urbana, IL
Suggested Donation: $5.00

   There will be refreshments and a mummers' play at the break and a dessert
party following the dance.

   The evening's dances will be selected from the following list:

Elizabeth - duple minor longways
Gay Gordons - circle mixer
The Girl I Left Behind Me - triple minor longways
A Grand March
Heartsease - 2 couples
Holborn March - duple minor longways
Jenny Pluck Pears - 3 couple circle
Lull Me Beyond Thee - 4 couple longways
Rakes of Rochester - duple minor longways
Red House - duple minor longways
Shropshire Lass - 3 couple longways
Waltz Country Dance - Sicilian circle
Well Hall - duple minor longways

   For further information contact Jonathan Sivier (j-sivier-AT-
uiuc.edu) at
217/359-8225 or Jane Hobgood at 217/328-1708.  You can check the Christmas
Ball website at http://www.prairienet.org/ciecd/xmas.html

   For those who are interested, the Urbana Country Dancers will be holding
a
contra dance on Friday, December 15, from 8 to 11 p.m. at the Phillip's
Recreation Center, 505 W. Stoughton, Urbana.  Deborah Hyland from St. Louis
will be calling and the band will be The Prairie Dogs.

   Central Illinois English Country Dancers is affiliated with the Champaign
Park District and a member of the Champaign County Cultural Consortium.


                    If we don't see you at the Ball,
                    Then 'Happy Hols' to one and all!


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|  Jonathan Sivier               |Q: How many angels can dance on the   |
|  j-sivier-AT-
uiuc.edu             |   head of a pin?                     |
|  Flight Simulation Lab         |A: It depends on what dance you call. |
|  Beckman Institute             |                                      |
|  405 N. Mathews                |  SWMDG - Single White Male           |
|  Urbana, IL  61801             |          Dance Gypsy                 |
|  Work: 217/244-1923            |                                      |
|  Home: 217/359-8225            |  Have shoes, will dance.             |
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|  Home page URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/j-sivier                   |
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Alan Corkett wrote (about a Midwestern Christmas ball):

   Seeing this email about a ball which was the SIXTH occurrence of the event,
   set me thinking about how long we have been doing things in England!
   I have just been typing an advert for the 33rd Devon Playford (I guess that
   what you call English country dancing!) Weekend at Halsway Manor, 30th
   March - 1stApril, 2001. But we get used to these high numbers where all
   these clubs that started in the square dance boom in the 50's & 60's, the
   craze that came over from the States in that period. Now of course they
   celebrate every ten years and so the numbers rise, soon we'll see all these
   people congratulating themselves on dancing for 50 years!  I suppose it is
   what comes of living so long, and I guess that 6 years can be a long time if
   you are doing all the organising and selling the tickets and persuading
   people to come!
   Anyway Happy dancing & Happy Christmas
   Alan Corkett

The ECD revival has been very spotty in the United States, but it goes back
quite a long way.  (It would be interesting to see a historical map; the 
impression I get is that it was entrenched on the East Coast from c.1915 
forward; could be argued to have spread around as part of the post-WWII 
International Folk Dance trend; get to the West Coast some 30 years ago,
and has been filling in in various parts of the middle for a long time.)

In a part I didn't quote, Alan plugs a Christmas Revel at Halsway.  There's
been a "Bracebridge Dinner" (which is essentially a Christmas Revel,
specifically connected to Washington Irving's "Old Christmas" writing about
Bracebridge Hall) at the Ahwanee in Yosemite since the mid-1920s.  Ansel
Adams was the original Lord of Misrule there.  Some US - even some California
- traditions go back a noticeable distance. 

And New England actually has a more or less continuous contradance tradition, 
even if the actual dancing has changed quite a bit over that time.  

-- Alan


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Alan will you please stop answering messages before they've even been
sent. Time travel is all well and good, but it's confusing to those
of us who aren't Timelords.
:)
Barbara

--- Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing <winston-AT-
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wrote:
> 
> Alan Corkett wrote (about a Midwestern Christmas ball):
> 
>    Seeing this email about a ball which was the SIXTH occurrence of
> the event,
>    set me thinking about how long we have been doing things in
> England!
 


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Personally I think that the dance A trip to Woodstock could be a little more interesting if the 1st couple did their 1/2 fig 8 Down through the next 2's below, they would then be going in the right direction for the gates up figure with original 2's befor the gates down figure with the new 2's again?
 Regards and Happy Christmas
francis2
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Don Bell 
  To: Sharon Green 
  Cc: ECD-AT-
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  Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 4:44 PM
  Subject: Trip to Woodstock Christmas Dance


   Dear Sharon,
  Hi Sharon,

  At 10:15 AM 11/15/00 -0500, you wrote:
  May I have a copy of Trip to Woodstock?  I think it would be lovely to call
  it around here over the holidays.

  My previous version of the dance had an error in B1, so I'm sending you this updated version.

  I intended to send it to the CDS newsletter in September so it would be available for Christmas dances. However, I didn't get around to doing that so I'm sending it to the ECD list now (better late than never) just in case anyone else wants a seasonal 'Christmassy' dance.

  I credit my finally following through with this effort to your timely prompting and the winter cold (the death of my car battery creating a time window and an excuse to be late for work).

  thanks for your encouragement & hope to see you dancing soon,

  Don 


  *************************************************************************************
  Instructions with music at:
  http://www.rpi.edu/~belld2/triptowoodstock.htm

  TRIP TO WOODSTOCK - longways duple minor, Don Bell, August 2000. Tune: 'Ding Dong Merrily' (Branle l'officiel' from Thoinot Arbeau, Orchesographie, 1589) The long 'trip' by the 1st couple in part B is reminiscent of my first roundabout car trip to call a dance in Woodstock,NY. The high point of the evening was a collaboration between the 4 dancers (all men), 9 band members and myself composing this dance. Thanks also go to Rensselaer English Country Dancers and participants in Gene Murrow's Dance Choreography Workshop at Pinewoods (Aug 2000)for helpful comments. In the B part the first couple may enjoy imagining they are taking a winding sleigh ride down a long hill. 

  A1: PARTNERS SET RIGHT & LEFT, TURN SINGLE RIGHT  (back to place) 

  A2: CORNERS SET RIGHT & LEFT (towards each other), FALL BACK (to place)

  B1: 1s CROSS BY THE RIGHT SHOULDER DOWN THE OUTSIDE TO SECOND POSITION, 2s MOVE UP
  1s 1/2 FIGURE 8 THRU  2s ABOVE  (end progressed &  proper)

  B2: 2s GATE  ORIGINAL 1s UP THE CENTER & DOWN THE OUTSIDE
  NEW 2s GATE NEW 1s DOWN THE MIDDLE & UP THE OUTSIDE  

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Personally I think that the dance A trip to 
Woodstock could be a little more interesting if the 1st couple did their 1/2 fig 
8 Down through the next 2's below, they would then be going in the right 
direction for the gates up figure with original 2's befor the gates down figure 
with the new 2's again?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;Regards and Happy Christmas</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>francis2</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A href="mailto:dbell1-AT-
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  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:mls-AT-
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  title=mls-AT-
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:ECD-AT-
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  title=ECD-AT-
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 04, 2000 4:44 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Trip to Woodstock Christmas 
  Dance</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>&nbsp;Dear Sharon,<BR>Hi Sharon,<BR><BR>At 10:15 AM 11/15/00 
  -0500, you wrote:<BR>May I have a copy of Trip to Woodstock?&nbsp; I think it 
  would be lovely to call<BR>it around here over the holidays.<BR><BR>My 
  previous version of the dance had an error in B1, so I'm sending you this 
  updated version.<BR><BR>I intended to send it to the CDS newsletter in 
  September so it would be available for Christmas dances. However, I didn't get 
  around to doing that so I'm sending it to the ECD list now (better late than 
  never) just in case anyone else wants a seasonal 'Christmassy' dance.<BR><BR>I 
  credit my finally following through with this effort to your timely prompting 
  and the winter cold (the death of my car battery creating a time window and an 
  excuse to be late for work).<BR><BR>thanks for your encouragement &amp; hope 
  to see you dancing soon,<BR><BR>Don 
  <BR><BR><BR><B><I>*************************************************************************************<BR>Instructions 
  with music at:<BR></I></B><A 
  href="http://www.rpi.edu/~belld2/triptowoodstock.htm" 
  eudora="autourl">http://www.rpi.edu/~belld2/triptowoodstock.htm<BR><BR></A><B><I>TRIP 
  TO WOODSTOCK</B> - longways duple minor, Don Bell, August 2000. Tune: 'Ding 
  Dong Merrily' (<FONT face="Courier New, Courier">Branle l'officiel' from 
  Thoinot Arbeau, Orchesographie, 1589) </FONT>The long 'trip' by the 1st couple 
  in part B is reminiscent of <FONT face="Courier New, Courier">my first 
  roundabout car trip to call a dance in Woodstock,NY. The high point of the 
  evening was a collaboration between the 4 dancers (all men), 9 band members 
  and myself composing this dance. Thanks also go to Rensselaer English Country 
  Dancers and participants in Gene Murrow&#8217;s Dance Choreography Workshop at 
  Pinewoods (Aug 2000)for helpful comments. In the B part the first couple may 
  enjoy imagining they are taking a winding sleigh ride down a long hill. 
  <BR><BR></I></FONT>A1: PARTNERS SET RIGHT &amp; LEFT, TURN SINGLE RIGHT&nbsp; 
  (back to place) <BR><BR>A2: CORNERS SET RIGHT &amp; LEFT (towards each other), 
  FALL BACK (to place)<BR><BR>B1: 1s CROSS BY THE RIGHT SHOULDER DOWN THE 
  OUTSIDE TO SECOND POSITION, 2s MOVE UP<BR>1s 1/2 FIGURE 8 THRU&nbsp; 2s 
  ABOVE&nbsp; (end progressed &amp;&nbsp; proper)<BR><BR>B2: 2s GATE&nbsp; 
  ORIGINAL 1s UP THE CENTER &amp; DOWN THE OUTSIDE<BR>NEW 2s GATE NEW 1s DOWN 
  THE MIDDLE &amp; UP THE OUTSIDE&nbsp; </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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There's
> been a "Bracebridge Dinner" (which is essentially a Christmas Revel,
> specifically connected to Washington Irving's "Old Christmas" writing
about
> Bracebridge Hall) at the Ahwanee in Yosemite since the mid-1920s

Irving's "Bracebridge" was of course based more or less on real life
happenings at Aston Hall, Birmingham.

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The way I heard it, the REALLY authentic version of "A Trip to Woodstock"
actually ends up in Bethel.

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At 11:34 PM 12/4/00 +0000, you wrote:
>Personally I think that the dance A trip to Woodstock could be a little 
>more interesting if the 1st couple did their 1/2 fig 8 Down through the 
>next 2's below, they would then be going in the right direction for the 
>gates up figure with original 2's befor the gates down figure with the new 
>2's again?
>  Regards and Happy Christmas
>francis2

Good thought! I'll try it on my group & see how it goes.

Don

>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:dbell1-AT-
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>>To: <mailto:mls-AT-
panix.com>Sharon Green
>>Cc: <mailto:ECD-AT-
SSRL04.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>ECD-AT-
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>>Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 4:44 PM
>>Subject: Trip to Woodstock Christmas Dance
>>
>>  Dear Sharon,
>>Hi Sharon,
>>
>>At 10:15 AM 11/15/00 -0500, you wrote:
>>May I have a copy of Trip to Woodstock?  I think it would be lovely to call
>>it around here over the holidays.
>>
>>My previous version of the dance had an error in B1, so I'm sending you 
>>this updated version.
>>
>>I intended to send it to the CDS newsletter in September so it would be 
>>available for Christmas dances. However, I didn't get around to doing 
>>that so I'm sending it to the ECD list now (better late than never) just 
>>in case anyone else wants a seasonal 'Christmassy' dance.
>>
>>I credit my finally following through with this effort to your timely 
>>prompting and the winter cold (the death of my car battery creating a 
>>time window and an excuse to be late for work).
>>
>>thanks for your encouragement & hope to see you dancing soon,
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>*************************************************************************************
>>Instructions with music at:
>>http://www.rpi.edu/~belld2/triptowoodstock.htm
>>
>>TRIP TO WOODSTOCK - longways duple minor, Don Bell, August 2000. Tune: 
>>'Ding Dong Merrily' (Branle l'officiel' from Thoinot Arbeau, 
>>Orchesographie, 1589) The long 'trip' by the 1st couple in part B is 
>>reminiscent of my first roundabout car trip to call a dance in 
>>Woodstock,NY. The high point of the evening was a collaboration between 
>>the 4 dancers (all men), 9 band members and myself composing this dance. 
>>Thanks also go to Rensselaer English Country Dancers and participants in 
>>Gene Murrow s Dance Choreography Workshop at Pinewoods (Aug 2000)for 
>>helpful comments. In the B part the first couple may enjoy imagining they 
>>are taking a winding sleigh ride down a long hill.
>>
>>A1: PARTNERS SET RIGHT & LEFT, TURN SINGLE RIGHT  (back to place)
>>
>>A2: CORNERS SET RIGHT & LEFT (towards each other), FALL BACK (to place)
>>
>>B1: 1s CROSS BY THE RIGHT SHOULDER DOWN THE OUTSIDE TO SECOND POSITION, 
>>2s MOVE UP
>>1s 1/2 FIGURE 8 THRU  2s ABOVE  (end progressed &  proper)
>>
>>B2: 2s GATE  ORIGINAL 1s UP THE CENTER & DOWN THE OUTSIDE
>>NEW 2s GATE NEW 1s DOWN THE MIDDLE & UP THE OUTSIDE

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Hi Don!

 

As long as you're out there in the dance ethers, considering other options 
for your dance...how about having the corners turn single Right back to place in 
the A2 to maintain the symmetry of the A1?

 

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>
>   The evening's dances :
>
>Elizabeth - duple minor longways
>Gay Gordons - circle mixer

When do you mix in Gay Gordons?

I have only done it as a one-partner dance, and can't see when the best
moment would be to progress -- but always ready to try !

Martin,
 in Grenoble, France.

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It could well be due to that natural timelord - the Atlantic Ocean and
differing timezones.

John Meechan

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> Alan will you please stop answering messages before they've even been
> sent. Time travel is all well and good, but it's confusing to those
> of us who aren't Timelords.
> :)
> Barbara
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> >
> > Alan Corkett wrote (about a Midwestern Christmas ball):
> >
> >    Seeing this email about a ball which was the SIXTH occurrence of
> > the event,
> >    set me thinking about how long we have been doing things in
> > England!
>
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Hi Mary !

At 07:32 PM 12/4/00 -0500, you wrote:
>As long as you're out there in the dance ethers, considering other options 
>for your dance...how about having the corners turn single Right back to 
>place in the A2 to maintain the symmetry of the A1?
>

Well...that's the way I had it originally but then it seemed a bit awkward 
after corners are coming forward to meet; also, the simple fall back seemed 
an easier orientation for 1s who are about to launch out on their trip. At 
Gene's choreography workshop last summer the consensus seemed to be that 
the lack of symmetry here would keep experienced dancers more mentally 
alert. Feel free to call it that way if you like it better. I do like 
Francis'  suggestion of 1st couple doing their 1/2 fig 8 down through the 
next 2's below and will probably make this revision once I've seen it work 
for most dancers.

I just had a chuckle recalling someone's response when I announced the 
title, 'Trip to Woodstock', They burst out laughing assuming I was 
referring to another kind of 'trip' associated with Woodstock.

Thanks for the feedback.

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Hi, Martin:

Herewith Progressive Gay Gordons:

A1    Walk forward with partner, turning toward each other
        continue backwards, still in a counter-clockwise
        direction. Repeat whole clockwise. {Usual figure.]

B1    Inside hands joined, balance towards partner, then
        away, and the man passes the girl onto the inside of
        the circle by passing her in front and changing hands.
        Repeat balances towards and away, then the man
        passes the girl under his left arm to the outside of
        the man behind.

        Repeat whole with new partner.

The above as per English Dance and Song Society.

Never tried this with Scottish dancers.

> When do you mix in Gay Gordons?
>
> I have only done it as a one-partner dance, and can't see when the best
> moment would be to progress -- but always ready to try !

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Instructions for Gae Gordon's as a mixer excerpted.

>ÝÝÝÝÝÝÝ away, and the man passes the girl

> the man
>ÝÝÝÝÝÝÝ passes the girl

Aarg.  Can't we at least agree that if you've got a man you've also got a
lady, and if you've got a boy you've also got a girl?

It's the essential chauvinism problem.  Goes right down to the language,
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John Wood wrote:

 >Herewith Progressive Gay Gordons:
 >
 >A1   Walk forward with partner, turning toward each other
 >     continue backwards, still in a counter-clockwise
 >     direction. Repeat whole clockwise. {Usual figure.]
 >     ...

Usual? Really? Toward each other? I've never done it or seen it
done any other way but that both partners turn to the right,
mantaining right hand in right hand and left hand in left hand.

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M Sheffield writes:
> 
> >   The evening's dances :
> >
> >Elizabeth - duple minor longways
> >Gay Gordons - circle mixer
> 
> When do you mix in Gay Gordons?
> 
> I have only done it as a one-partner dance, and can't see when the best
> moment would be to progress -- but always ready to try !

   I have found that there are several variations on this dance, some are
mixers and some are not.  The version I'm planning on doing goes like this
(if I can remember correctly off the top of my head).

1 - promenade CCW going forward with partner, turn and continue in same
    direction backing up.
2 - promenade CW (back the way you came) going forward with partner, turn
    and continue in same direction backing up.
3 - take inside hands with partner, balance together and apart, roll away
    with a half-sashay to trade places.
4 - balance together and apart, turn the women under to send them on to the
    next man CW around the circle.

Jonathan

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At 10:46 AM 12/5/00 -0500, DavBarnert-AT-
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>John Wood wrote:
>
> >Herewith Progressive Gay Gordons:
> >
> >A1   Walk forward with partner, turning toward each other
> >     continue backwards, still in a counter-clockwise
> >     direction. Repeat whole clockwise. {Usual figure.]
> >     ...
>
>Usual? Really? Toward each other? I've never done it or seen it
>done any other way but that both partners turn to the right,
>mantaining right hand in right hand and left hand in left hand.

I believe by "Usual Figure" John means the balance in & out, pass the lady
across, balance in & out, pass her to the man behind that provides the
progression in the mixer version.  

Both versions, the progressive mixer version & the couple dance version,
are found in Sybil Clark and Mary Evans' Swing Partners, published in 1964.

David, alas, there is no one true way... (~:

Hugs,
Sharon
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DavBarnert-AT-
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> 
> John Wood wrote:
> 
>  >Herewith Progressive Gay Gordons:
>  >
>  >A1   Walk forward with partner, turning toward each other
>  >     continue backwards, still in a counter-clockwise
>  >     direction. Repeat whole clockwise. {Usual figure.]
>  >     ...
> 
> Usual? Really? Toward each other? I've never done it or seen it
> done any other way but that both partners turn to the right,
> mantaining right hand in right hand and left hand in left hand.

   It depends on the type of hold being done for the promenade.  If you
use the Varsouvienne (sp?) hold both partners turn the same way in
parallel.  If you use the skaters' hold (hands joined in front with arms
crossed) you turn towards your partner as you turn around.  There may be
different effects with other promenade holds.

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> Aarg.  Can't we at least agree that if you've got a man you've also got a
> lady, and if you've got a boy you've also got a girl?
>
> It's the essential chauvinism problem.  Goes right down to the language,
> reflecting the mindset.

Or, if you've got a man you've also got a woman; but if you've got a lady,
let's charitably assume that you've also got a gentleman.

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--- Sharon Green <mls-AT-
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> At 10:46 AM 12/5/00 -0500, DavBarnert-AT-
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.......................
> Both versions, the progressive mixer version & the couple dance
> version,
> are found in Sybil Clark and Mary Evans' Swing Partners, published
> in 1964.

> David, alas, there is no one true way... (~: 

Sort of like the ballot count in Florida in that respect.

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On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 j-sivier-AT-
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[snip]

>    It depends on the type of hold being done for the promenade.  If you
> use the Varsouvienne (sp?) hold both partners turn the same way in
> parallel.  If you use the skaters' hold (hands joined in front with arms
> crossed) you turn towards your partner as you turn around.  There may be
> different effects with other promenade holds.

Hmmm... yes, I can imagine some other effects...  But with the two turns
you've described, you've pretty well covered the possibilities with
respect to turns about the vertical axis, with the same rotational sense
in one case (Varsouvienne) and opposite in the other (skaters').  But
there are two more orthogonal axes about which turns might be executed in
an independent way, to face back in the other direction, both horizontal
axes -- they could be chosen along the line of dance and across the line
of dance, for example.  And I can imagine that different holds might
enable such turns, but I see one difficulty: if you turn about either of
these two axes such as to face the other way (a half-turn), you
unfortunately end up upside-down, and then you need to rotate another
half-turn about the other horizontal axis to correct this, assuming that
you want to have your hands free to maintain or at least resume the hold.
There are a lot of choices when two turns are involved in this way, since
you have two symmetry types for each turn, or four combinations in all
(turn in parallel or toward each other for each of the turns in any
combination).  Which of these, if any, would permit the handhold to be
maintained throughout the figure I'll leave to others to figure out...
the general appearance would be something like a combination of a half
handspring followed by a half cartwheel, which could be a bit tricky,
particularly if you couldn't land on your hands part way through to change
the direction of your rotational axis...

So, Jonathan, I think you've actually covered the options pretty well!

Have fun at the ball!

Eric

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On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 DavBarnert-AT-
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> John Wood wrote:
> 
>  >Herewith Progressive Gay Gordons:
>  >
>  >A1   Walk forward with partner, turning toward each other
>  >     continue backwards, still in a counter-clockwise
>  >     direction. Repeat whole clockwise. {Usual figure.]
>  >     ...
> 
> Usual? Really? Toward each other? I've never done it or seen it
> done any other way but that both partners turn to the right,
> mantaining right hand in right hand and left hand in left hand.
> 

  "There are five and sixty ways of constructing tribal lays,
  "And every single one of them is right!"

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Eric Arnold writes:
> 
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 j-sivier-AT-
ux1.cso.uiuc.edu wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >    It depends on the type of hold being done for the promenade.  If you
> > use the Varsouvienne (sp?) hold both partners turn the same way in
> > parallel.  If you use the skaters' hold (hands joined in front with arms
> > crossed) you turn towards your partner as you turn around.  There may be
> > different effects with other promenade holds.
> 
> Hmmm... yes, I can imagine some other effects...  But with the two turns
> you've described, you've pretty well covered the possibilities with
> respect to turns about the vertical axis, with the same rotational sense
> in one case (Varsouvienne) and opposite in the other (skaters').  But
> there are two more orthogonal axes about which turns might be executed in
> an independent way, to face back in the other direction, both horizontal
> axes -- they could be chosen along the line of dance and across the line
> of dance, for example.  And I can imagine that different holds might
> enable such turns, but I see one difficulty: if you turn about either of
> these two axes such as to face the other way (a half-turn), you
> unfortunately end up upside-down, and then you need to rotate another
> half-turn about the other horizontal axis to correct this, assuming that
> you want to have your hands free to maintain or at least resume the hold.
> There are a lot of choices when two turns are involved in this way, since
> you have two symmetry types for each turn, or four combinations in all
> (turn in parallel or toward each other for each of the turns in any
> combination).  Which of these, if any, would permit the handhold to be
> maintained throughout the figure I'll leave to others to figure out...
> the general appearance would be something like a combination of a half
> handspring followed by a half cartwheel, which could be a bit tricky,
> particularly if you couldn't land on your hands part way through to change
> the direction of your rotational axis...

   It sounds like you would need zero-G for these turns.  Perhaps we can
submit a proposal for an experiment in zero-G country dance on the space
station.  Do you think we could get a grant from the NEA for such a study? ;-)

Jonathan

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Hi, Sharon:

> >John Wood wrote:
> >
> > >Herewith Progressive Gay Gordons:
> > >
> > >A1   Walk forward with partner, turning toward each other
> > >     continue backwards, still in a counter-clockwise
> > >     direction. Repeat whole clockwise. {Usual figure.]
>
> I believe by "Usual Figure" John means the balance in & out, pass the lady
> across, balance in & out, pass her to the man behind that provides the
> progression in the mixer version.
>
> Both versions, the progressive mixer version & the couple dance version,
> are found in Sybil Clark and Mary Evans' Swing Partners, published in 1964.

That's where it was copied from!

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"...if you've got a man you've also got a lady"...

 I thought gentlemen had ladies
and men had women!
Alan
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Instructions for Gae Gordon's as a mixer excerpted.

>ÝÝÝÝÝÝÝ away, and the man passes the girl

> the man
>ÝÝÝÝÝÝÝ passes the girl

Aarg.  Can't we at least agree that if you've got a man you've also got a
lady, and if you've got a boy you've also got a girl?

It's the essential chauvinism problem.  Goes right down to the language,
reflecting the mindset.

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On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 j-sivier-AT-
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>    It sounds like you would need zero-G for these turns.  Perhaps we can
> submit a proposal for an experiment in zero-G country dance on the space
> station.  Do you think we could get a grant from the NEA for such a study? ;-)

Yes, zero-G would avoid the problem of crashing into the floor when you're
upside down and have to change the direction about which you're turning.

But in fact it would do more than that: it would eliminate the meaning of
"upside-down" so that the second turn to right yourself would be
unnecessary.  

But whike G might be a big downer, from which dancers perpetually seem
to be striving to escape, it in fact plays a very essential role in
establishing the very nature of the dance that we do.  

By breaking the symmetry of space in establishing a sense of "down" we
immediately have to provide a limiting surface (the dance floor) which
limits and constrains our motion in this direction, essentially limiting
our space to a two-dimensional one, so (for the most part -- arches and
"dip & dives" are minor exceptions) we might as well be dancing in
Flatland.  But this constraint has one very significant virtue which
influences the nature of the figures that we do enormously: by the force
gravity causes us to exert on the floor, and the corresponding force that
the floor exerts on us to counteract that of gravity, we find that there
are frictional forces that can be created in the plane of the floor, and
as we push with our legs against the floor in a way not exactly
perpendicular to the floor, the floor pushes back on us with an equal and
opposite force, which enables us to accelerate or stop in our motions in
this horizontal plane.  Other than this, the only forces we have to let us
start or stop or change direction come from our contact with other
dancers.  A dance like Jack's Health in zero-G would immediately loose all
of its 1st couples, because if they would pull by and then let go, they
would continue to fly off on the other side of the set, and they'd have no
way of stopping until they met another dancer from another longways set,
or the wall of the space they were in, or never if they were in free
space...

But the majority of the figures we do depend essentially on the forces
parallel to the floor which the force of gravity perpendicular to the
floor enables; even the simple changes of direction about a vertical axis
would be impossible by one's self in free space.  One would have to turn
as a cat does.  Of the two turns Jonathan described, the turn toward each
other, with the skaters' handhold, ought to work to a degree without
gravity.  But moving forward or back, either as a couple or individually,
would be impossible.  Instead, you might push off from the next couple, so
that alternate couples were going in opposite directions on each change,
and you'd lose one couple at the ends on each bounce.  And in the middle,
if you weren't perfectly aligned, you would set yourself and the other
couple spinning or you would bounce out of the set entirely.  The
choreography really changes completely without G...  (I've thought about
this before 8-) 

Another approach would be to choreograph a dance for sky divers.  The
timing would need to be worked out fairly carefully, I think, but there
would be a few more options because of potential wind forces even in a
free-fall situation.  Might be difficult to do a longways dance for as
many as will; a set dance should be challenging enough...

Let's hear it for G!  It's the dancers' friend, not enemy!

Eric
 

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John wrote:

>Herewith Progressive Gay Gordons:
>(...)
>...and the man passes the girl onto the inside of
>        the circle by passing her in front and changing hands.
>        Repeat balances towards and away, then the man
>        passes the girl under his left arm to the outside of
>        the man behind.

Known locally (ie; in France) as la Chapelloise -- a French dance !!!

Small world;

No, better not try it with Scottish dancers   ;-)

Martin,
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We did this dance under the name Chapelloise in Bulgaria this summer.  It
was initiated by a group of French tourists when no one on our restaurant
seemed to be able to think of a Bulgarian dance done with a steady 8
count.  The band was a house band of Bulgarians.  The floor was a stone
cobbled courtyard that was rough and irregular.  The band, about 5 minutes
into it, sped up a bit, and soon sped up again and again.  It was
imposssible to get out because one did not have time to talk to a partner
to quit simultaneously (and only 2 of each gender spoke English).  Anyway,
the band mercifully stopped before anyone  broke a few tarsal bones.

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Here is  an interesting sideline to the Gay Gordons discussion. 
I was at a community dinner/party (mostly non-dancers) last weekend
where Karin Brennesvik (a well known Norwegian Telespringar dance
teacher) taught a dance almost the same as Sibyl Clarks mixer (using
inside hands, turn toward each other in part A, balance and pass the
woman across in part B).  She calls it (translation) "Everyman's
Dance".  Of course, Scottish version of Gay Gordons is also well known
(non-mixer).  It's probably not surprising this dance shows up in
several countries; it uses a universally easy to learn and satisfying
patterns for beginners.  Sibyl's mixer is great for community events with
beginners--I've used it that way for a couple decades since she taught it
at Berea.

For those interested, the differences in Karin's version (from Sibyl's) are:
1. most significant:  done to a wonderful Swedish march tune (rather than 
to Scotland the Brave).
2. the first balance in B was away-from, then toward partner
(that may have been a modification to make it easier for beginners, though
passing the woman across doesn't flow from this as well as from balance toward 
then away).  The second balance in B is toward then away.
3. no progression at the end-just pass the woman back across
(it may have been modified to non-mixer for this audience-I didn't ask her).

--- John Wood wrote:
> >  >... 
> >  >Herewith Progressive Gay Gordons:
> >  >
> >  >A1   Walk forward with partner, turning toward each other
> >  >     continue backwards, still in a counter-clockwise
> >  >     direction. Repeat whole clockwise. {Usual figure.]
> >  >     ...

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 Hm.  We seem to be talking about a different Gay Gordons than the one I
remember.  The A part is the same-- Varsouvienne hold, walking forward 4
steps CCW 1/2 turn and back up 4 steps, walk forward CW 4 steps, 1/2 turn
and back up to starting place.  Then we differ.

B --1-4  Man takes four small two steps forward, moving CCW around circle,
while Woman, using four two-steps, does turns (some do two half turns, some
do four full turns) under their joined right arms.

5-8 take ballroom hold and do four two-steps turning, moving CW and making
1/2 turns.  

Does anybody else do this version?  I danced it on the east coast in the
early 1960's and in Chicago in the late sixties, but haven't done it since
moving to Seattle 30 years ago.  

Victoria  

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This is what I remember doing as a Gay Gordon's also.
& I somehow remember doing it as a couple's dance,
and as a mixer.  My dim memory is that as a mixer
the woman did the twirls while the man walked forward,
and then instead of the pivot turns, she continued twirling
back to the next man in the circle.

The last time I did this dance was in the NY hudson valley
during the mid-late 1970s.
From time to time I've wondered why it's no longer done
at contra dances - or if it's just not done at the ones I go to.
There were some Albany dances where it was common for this
to be the first dance after the break.

-Pamela
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> Hm.  We seem to be talking about a different Gay Gordons than the one I
>remember.  The A part is the same-- Varsouvienne hold, walking forward 4
>steps CCW 1/2 turn and back up 4 steps, walk forward CW 4 steps, 1/2 turn
>and back up to starting place.  Then we differ.

>B --1-4  Man takes four small two steps forward, moving CCW around circle,
>while Woman, using four two-steps, does turns (some do two half turns, some
>do four full turns) under their joined right arms.

>5-8 take ballroom hold and do four two-steps turning, moving CW and making
>1/2 turns.  

>Does anybody else do this version?  I danced it on the east coast in the
>early 1960's and in Chicago in the late sixties, but haven't done it since
>moving to Seattle 30 years ago.  

>Victoria  

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The Assembly Players will be recording the tune by David Dean for their next 
CD, which will comprise a collection of modern 'Playford' type compositions 
from this side of the pond. Recording takes place between Christmas and New 
Year.
    The Dance notation and tune are published in 'Further flights of Fancy' 
by Wendy Crouch.
                                                Nicolas B., Lanark, Scotland. 
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At 09:11 PM 11/30/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Undoubtedly many of you on the list have sources for costumes and costume
>components.  The problem is, I don't.
>
>Any guidance would be greatly appreciated...
>
>McD

Here's some more:

The Sutter of Mount Misery
G. Gedney Godwin, Inc.
Box 100
Valley Forge, PA 19481
215-783-0670
One catalog features a wide variety of 18th century gear, including 
clothing, muskets, etc. Interesting catalog. A second cat has 17th century 
gear and garb.

Try also Druid's Oak
"Handcrafted Quality"
1634 New Windsor Ct.
Crofton, MD 21114
301-721-5184

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Dear Victoria,
    The dance you describe is much as I remember it from Michael and Marianne
Herman's teaching in the late 40's. I'm quite sure the man did a little polka
going forward while the woman twirled according to her ability until the next
turn of the dance with the same partner. The tune was always Scotland the
Brave,

Albert

paul/victoria bestock wrote (in part):

>  Hm.  We seem to be talking about a different Gay Gordons than the one I
> remember.

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From: "paul/victoria bestock" >
> Does anybody else do this version?  I danced it on the east coast in the
> early 1960's and in Chicago in the late sixties, but haven't done it since
> moving to Seattle 30 years ago.
>
> Victoria

That's the version that I learned from Penelope Naumann Lord in the early
80's in western Massachusetts as a couple dance - I didn't realize that
there were so many other variations.

Mary Jones
Port Jervis, NY


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On Tue, 05 Dec 2000 14:17:32 -0500 (EST) Eric Arnold <eba-AT-
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writes:
> 
> Let's hear it for G!  It's the dancers' friend, not enemy!
> 
> Eric

Not to mention D, A, C or even B-flat (Hole in the Wall playing softly in
the background).  Of course with sufficient G, you will B-flat if you
don't C-sharp.

[sorry, it's been a long day]

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Dear friends,

The Boston Centre and Bare Necessitites are preparing to record volumes 5
and 6 in their continuing English Country dance series, and we'd sure
appreciate your help in deciding what the contents should be.

The tentative plan is as follows:  

Volume 5: a collection of small set dances, suitable for occasions when a
few friends get together at someone's home and just want to dance, as
well as for the more typical dance events.  Don Bell suggested this as
"living-room English."  

Volume 6: a collection of "community dances," simple English dances
suitable for family dances, or weddings and similar celebrations where
there may be many people who are not regular dancers.

What would you like to see on these discs?  Are there more pressing
needs/themes that should be addressed before either of these? 

When suggesting dances/tunes, please consider such issues as popularity,
the music's appeal on its own (many folks buy the CD's for listening
only), and whether or not the music for the dance has already been
recorded. 

Thanks in advance,

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On Tue, 05 Dec 2000 20:23:04 -0500 (EST) SallenNic-AT-
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> The Assembly Players will be recording the tune by David Dean for 
> their next CD...

Thanks, Nic, for posting this announcement for the ECD-ers.

This was one reason Bare Necessities and I felt that it would be OK to
record the "Early One Morning" version-- Nic had informed me that David
Dean's tune would be on CD before long.  There were several other reasons
for recording EOM: many people did request the EOM tune for this dance,
the route is unusual (AABB, 5x through) so you can't find a suitable
substitute on a recording(*), the dance was introduced in the States with
the EOM tune [I believe by Colin Hume-- right, Colin?], it is danced at
the Boston Centre with this tune, and it is the tune the Band knows and
likes [never underestimate this last factor when planning a recording].

That said, Graham Knight did inform me that Wendy now prefers the dance
to be done to its own tune.  So hang in there, Marian!

[Does Britney Spears have to go through all this?!?!?]

Gene

(*) hey, wait a minute...  Levi Jackson Rag would work!  :-)
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Hi! I'm part of the newly formed San Diego English Country Dance group
(there was one many years ago, but apparently it petered out). I'm trying to
find out where I could get the music for some dances, so that we could
practice them for the upcoming Oakland Playford Ball. After several hours of
hunting, I've only managed to find 1 of the dances on CD -- I found
Kelsterne Gardens on "More Favorites of the Boston Centre Vol. 2". I would
very much appreciate guidance, either which CD's these are on, or where I
could find that information myself. Barring that, just knowing where to buy
the sheet music would be nice, in case we can find some way to play it live.

Here's the Song List:

---------------
Tea for Two
Trip to Greene, Gary Roodman
Graie's Inn Masque, Fried Herman's _Fringe Benefits_
Parthenia
Wooing Mairi
Parson's Farewell
Step Stately
Red house
Mount Hills
Jovial beggars
Punch bowl
Kelsterne gardens (found)
Saint Martin's Lane
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Thanks very much...

Steve Harclerode

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Greetings!
   On her last trip to the USA, Wendy Crouch left several copies of Further 
Flights of Fancy with me.  Therein lie instructions and original tune for 
Winter Solstice.  Anybody interested in purchasing a copy may contact me.
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Is this positive reinforcement for public whining, or is this positive
reinforcement for public whining?

Many, many thanks to all who responded to my plaint, and a special ShOuT
oUt! to Barry McNamara, who was offering to go way beyond the call of duty
in hooking me up with the sheet music -- now mercifully unnecessary since
the fabulous Orly turns out to be a Source.

Will CDSS be carrying the Assembly Players CD?

BTW -- I have been solacing myself by listening to the other tracks on the
Modern Treasures CD; just because I'm obsessed with Winter Solstice doesn't
mean it isn't a great CD.

Marian



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Steve --

(1) If the SD ECD group has a regular dance night and place, or group 
contact info, please send that information along so I can put it on 
the ECD in North America page.

(2) The sheet music for everything on your list except  Tea for Two,
Trip to Greene, and Graie's Inn Masque can be found in the Peter Barnes
English Country Dance Tunes book, available from various places, but 
I always recommend the Country Dance and Song Society; you can see
their sales catalog at http://www.cdss.org/sales

(3) The BACDS Playford Balls usually send out packets of dance directions
and any music that isn't in the Barnes book to all the West Coast English
dance callers they know about.  (Last year I was the dancing master for 
the ball, and I sent or carried packets to Ashland, Portland, Los Angeles,
Seattle, and elsewhere.)  You might try asking the Ball committee for a 
packet; you certainly want to get your group on the list for next year.

(4) If you don't insist on CDs - that is, if you can take cassettes - there
are sources for recording for many of these tunes, such recordings also
generally available through http://www.cdss.org/sales

Wooing Mairi and St. Martin's Lane are on English Country Dance Favorites by
Hold the Mustard.  Step Stately is on Step Stately, by the Claremont Country
Dance Band.  Parson's Farewell is on the English Dancing Master, Volume 1 
by Orange and Blue.  I don't offhand know of sources for the other dances.
(Graie's Inn Masque is not on the new Fried Herman album, Measured Obsession.)

The Punchbowl is on Favorites of the Boston Centre, Volume 2, right there with
Kelsterne Gardens, according to http://www.cds-boston.org

So that leaves:

> Parthenia
> Red house
> Mount Hills
> Jovial beggars

for other people on the list to identify.  (I keep meaning to set up an
ECD-record track-listing web page, but never get around to it.  And I 
don't have my tapes catalogued, possibly because I keep losing them.)

In any case, welcome, and good luck!

-- Alan

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At 10:54 PM 12/5/00 -0700, Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote:

>So that leaves:
>
>> Parthenia
>> Red house
>> Mount Hills
>> Jovial beggars
>
>for other people on the list to identify. 

Steve:
Parthenia & Jovial Beggars [3-couple set version] are on Wild Thyme's
cassettes of Maggot Pie.  It may be available through CDSS.
Mount Hills is on All Alive by Two's Company, For Your Pleasure vol.1 by
Peter Jenkins, and Seven to Midnight by Pyewacket.  The first two you might
be able to get through Charles Bolton, the last through Rosie Cross via
Michael Barraclough.  Charles & Michael are both on this list, I believe.
I have no recording for Red House.  (Gene Murrow, here's one for Vol. 6:
Great Dances That Should Have Been Recorded by Now!)


 (I keep meaning to set up an
>ECD-record track-listing web page, but never get around to it.  And I 
>don't have my tapes catalogued, possibly because I keep losing them.)

Alan:
On the back of my cards I write down the name [abbreviated] of the
recordings I have for that dance.  That way when I'm going over my program
before a gig, I can quickly locate the particular tapes or CDs I want to
review.

Much love,
Sharon Green (married to a librarian--can you tell?)

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Very interesting discussion ...about how dances drop out of fashion ie. "I
last did GG 30 years ago."
I expect many folk (English country) dancers in UK would not admit to doing
GG, as it is a dance anyone (even beginners) can do.
Pamela, if I go to run a dance for "Joe public", ie. not regular folk club
dancers, for the PTA, WI, Scouts, charity do's like Action for the Crippled
Child, local community assoc, etc., then I invariably, though not always,
start the 2nd half with GG, as a means of getting those who feel energetic
and want to test their  "ear canals" (to see if they get giddy) or enjoy
moving in that extra bit of space while the others finish refreshments and
clear away the rubbish. Depending on the succss of this decides whether I
make it a couple dance or modify it to a progressive (change partner) dance.
Even a simple dance can represent a challenge to, dare I call them
non-dancers. Just getting the hands correctly sorted and turning round in
order to go the same way as everybody else can be a problem; and as for
walking backwards! Well, that is not something the general public are used
to in their normal everyday lives, it seems.
However, done by the right people with the right attitude, in my opinion,
this dance does produce a great feeling of enjoyment and togetherness,
without being specially skilled, which is important if the movement is to
grow, rather than just get cleverer and cleverer.
I hope to encourage new people to come into dancing. It is something which
many more individuals can get pleasure from, if only they have that
confidence to stand up and try. But this may only be an "England" or
"English" problem. What say the Americans? (is it 160 million these days?)
...from Alan Corkett of Nether Stowey, Somerset UK. (Even most English
people don't know where that is! but it is near the manor!
www.halswaymanor.co.uk)
PS Thanks for all the responses to the 12th Night Revels thread, on 6th Jan
at HM. If YOU would like to join us we still have tickets for the ceilidh
left, or come for dinner, bed & breakfast if you wish, or the whole w/e. (I
believe there are cheap flights available this time of year; if you can put
up with getting into a plane.)
-
Pamela wrote...
This is what I remember doing as a Gay Gordon's also & I somehow remember
doing it as a couple's dance, and as a mixer.  My dim memory is that as a
mixer the woman did the twirls while the man walked forward, and then
instead of the pivot turns, she continued twirling back to the next man in
the circle.

The last time I did this dance was in the NY hudson valley during the
mid-late 1970s. From time to time I've wondered why it's no longer done at
contra dances - or if it's just not done at the ones I go to.
There were some Albany dances where it was common for this
to be the first dance after the break.
Pamela
======================================================================== We
seem to be talking about a different Gay Gordons than the one I remember.
The A part is the same-- Varsouvienne hold, walking forward 4 steps CCW 1/2
turn and back up 4 steps, walk forward CW 4 steps, 1/2 turn and back up to
starting place.  Then we differ.
B --1-4  Man takes four small two steps forward, moving CCW around circle,
while Woman, using four two-steps, does turns (some do two half turns, some
do four full turns) under their joined right arms.
5-8 take ballroom hold and do four two-steps turning, moving CW and making
1/2 turns.
Does anybody else do this version?  I danced it on the east coast in the
early 1960's and in Chicago in the late sixties, but haven't done it since
moving to Seattle 30 years ago.
Victoria

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Hi Steve
Parson's Farewell is (TWICE) on the "Live Music from Halsway Manor" CD £10
plus post and pack. Let me have your postal address and I'll send you one!
Regards Alan
PS I have a cousin in San Diego, I last visited in 1969!
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Date: 06 December 2000 04:29
Subject: Finding Songs on CD


Hi! I'm part of the newly formed San Diego English Country Dance group
(there was one many years ago, but apparently it petered out). I'm trying to
find out where I could get the music for some dances, so that we could
practice them for the upcoming Oakland Playford Ball. After several hours of
hunting, I've only managed to find 1 of the dances on CD -- I found
Kelsterne Gardens on "More Favorites of the Boston Centre Vol. 2". I would
very much appreciate guidance, either which CD's these are on, or where I
could find that information myself. Barring that, just knowing where to buy
the sheet music would be nice, in case we can find some way to play it live.

Here's the Song List:

---------------
Tea for Two
Trip to Greene, Gary Roodman
Graie's Inn Masque, Fried Herman's _Fringe Benefits_
Parthenia
Wooing Mairi
Parson's Farewell
Step Stately
Red house
Mount Hills
Jovial beggars
Punch bowl
Kelsterne gardens (found)
Saint Martin's Lane
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Thanks very much...

Steve Harclerode




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Hi, Victoria:

> A different Gay Gordons than the one I
> remember.  The A part is the same-- Varsouvienne hold, walking forward 4
> steps CCW 1/2 turn and back up 4 steps, walk forward CW 4 steps, 1/2 turn
> and back up to starting place.  Then we differ.
>
> B --1-4  Man takes four small two steps forward, moving CCW around circle,
> while Woman, using four two-steps, does turns (some do two half turns, some
> do four full turns) under their joined right arms.
>
> 5-8 take ballroom hold and do four two-steps turning, moving CW and making
> 1/2 turns.

This is essentially the Scottish version of Gay Gordons. Obviously done
with Scottish pas-de-basques for the twirl!

John

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Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: Gay Gordons


> I expect many folk (English country) dancers in UK would not admit to
doing
> GG, as it is a dance anyone (even beginners) can do.

I would not 'dare' do it at a dance for experienced dancers in England - I'd
be laughed at just as much as if I had done Cumberland Square Eight
(previous thread). Different sides of the Atlantic - different attitudes.

But this may only be an "England" or
> "English" problem. What say the Americans? (is it 160 million these days?)

It depends whether you live in Florida or not!!:-)

Sit back and await the response!

John Meechan



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--- paul/victoria bestock WROTE:
> 
>  Hm.  We seem to be talking about a different Gay Gordons than the one I
> remember.  The A part is the same-- Varsouvienne hold, 
>...

To distinguish them, I've always refered to this the classic
Varsouvienne hold dance you describe (English or Scottish) as "Gay
Gordons", and the simple mixer version as "Gay Gordons Mixer" (or
as in my previous post as Sibyl Clark's GGM, though I'm not sure 
if she wrote it or just spread it everywhere she taught).

--Chris Levey
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On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Gene Murrow wrote:

 . . .  Of course with sufficient G, you will B-flat if you
> don't C-sharp.

That was a low pitch, Gene...



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Pamela Goddard writes:
> 
> This is what I remember doing as a Gay Gordon's also.
> & I somehow remember doing it as a couple's dance,
> and as a mixer.  My dim memory is that as a mixer
> the woman did the twirls while the man walked forward,
> and then instead of the pivot turns, she continued twirling
> back to the next man in the circle.
> 
> The last time I did this dance was in the NY hudson valley
> during the mid-late 1970s.
> >From time to time I've wondered why it's no longer done
> at contra dances - or if it's just not done at the ones I go to.
> There were some Albany dances where it was common for this
> to be the first dance after the break.

   A local contra dance caller, Martha Tyner, has called it a few times
at our local contra dance.  That's where I got the idea of doing it at
our English dance.  She did the mixer version where the men turn the
women under and pass them on to the next man (is it politically incorrect
to say "pass them on"? perhaps "assist them in progressing" would be
better).  I seemed to recall that it was a couple dance (non-mixer) so
I did some looking around and found several variations under the same
name.  Some were mixers and some had you keep the same partner.  I
decided to stick with the mixer version because I thought a fun mixer
like this would be nice in our Ball program.  Perhaps one of these
versions is the "original", but I have no way to know which one it
would be.

Jonathan

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The planned mega-dance session at the middle school has been rescheduled for
early January, I learned yesterday when I went in to prep. the teachers -
seems they'd inadvertently scheduled bowling for this Friday instead.
Although I was quite psyched for this event, I can also happily wait until
after the holidays. So this means I have a bit longer to contemplate (and
fixate, and agitate?) over the plans. I just wish this event could have
taken place a little closer to the recently concluded Colonial American unit
in social studies...

There will apparently be some changes from what I'd been told to expect, as
a new semester will be underway, with new kids in the class, but it should
be essentially the same structure. Between now and then, I'll be heading for
Christmas School in Berea once again, so will no doubt get lots of input
from fellow dancers, teachers, etc. and so may wind up with a splendid
assortment of ideas.  Those of you who have responded on the list or
privately have already provided me with many excellent and insightful
suggestions and accounts of your own experiences - many thanks.

I'll continue to keep you all posted as events occur-

Susan Booker




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Interestingly (?) , we often get asked to do the Gay Gordons at weddings,
because it seems to be a standard that the ones who are floundering can
aspire to.  "Hey I know this one...". It is a bit like the Dashing White
Sergeant: one which no caller chooses, but the dancers often request.( see
irrelevant but amusing story below in PS)

Again I thought it was interesting watching the thread about the
progressive/non-progressive GG - at least one of the callers we work with
over here in the UK calls the GG similar to that one recently posted with
the woman twizzling under the man's arm then a slow polka, THEN, he
announces that we are now going to do the "American Gay Gordons" which turns
out to be the progressive one where the woman turns under and progresses
backwards (is that an oxymoron?) to the man behind.

Ron H



PS for the really tenacious who read every word no matter how boring....

That thing of the callers not doing a dance but the dancers often requesting
it, might teach *some* callers something about giving the crowd what it
wants... and it reminds me of the time many years ago when I went in to a
ladies' outfitters (store) in Oxford, to buy  a pair of ladies' elbow-length
black evening gloves (don't ask why).  The oh-so-refined, elegant lady
assistant looked down her nose at me and said: "Oh no Sir, we don't stock
them... there's no call for them nowadays.  And I DO wish people would stop
asking me for them".




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I thought that I'd finished my new tune, 'Al Gore's Enigma Variations', but I'm not sure if all the notes are there. 

I'll recount them.

Paul Hutchinson.




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--- Victoria Bestock wrote:
Does anybody else do this version?  I danced it on the east coast in the
early 1960's and in Chicago in the late sixties, but haven't done it since
moving to Seattle 30 years ago.
--- end of quote ---

I learned it that way (couple dance, not mixer) from the calling of Dudley
Laufman in the early 1970s and I still call it several times a year at our
monthly contra dance. We also do "Road to the Isles" from time to time.

David Millstone
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WARNING!
A recent item in this thread was contaminated with a virus detected by Norton
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I apologise for the virus and thanks for telling me. Apparently the Kak virus was sent to me, via e-mail.
It can be rectified by downloading 'kak virus fix' - it takes a few minutes.

Paul Hutchinson.

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does this virus affect mac computers?  the kak virus fix appeared not to
work on my computer

Emma


>I apologise for the virus and thanks for telling me. Apparently the Kak
>virus was sent to me, via e-mail.
>It can be rectified by downloading 'kak virus fix' - it takes a few minutes.
>
>Paul Hutchinson.
>
>ps tirbute should have course read tubrite
>
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Macs don't get these things.

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Christopher Levey <cgl-AT-
nimbus.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> For those interested, the differences in Karin's version (from Sibyl's)
are:
> 1. most significant:  done to a wonderful Swedish march tune 
> (rather than to Scotland the Brave).

One can think of this dance as being done to _any good march_ (which
translates, as Gene said, to _whatever march the band likes_) or even to a
medley of them. At the Scottish dances I go to, and on the recordings I buy,
I actually hear "Scotland the Brave" fairly seldom. My personal favorite is
"Barren Rocks of Aden."

Everyone, may I respectfully request that you quote only as much of a
previous message as is necessary to make your point clear?  I've been
recycling a lot of paper with copies of the same long messages on it lately.

Gene, thanks for:
>Graham Knight did inform me that Wendy now prefers [Winter Solstice]
>to be done to its own tune.
It's a luxury to have access to the devisor's opinions (of course, I used
EOM when I called it in C# house with Wendy present, but maybe I can take
credit for helping crystallize her opinion :-/  ).

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At 09:35 AM 12/6/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Gene Murrow wrote:
>
> . . .  Of course with sufficient G, you will B-flat if you
>> don't C-sharp.
>
>That was a low pitch, Gene...

I'd like to add A minor point, which is that you'd have to play the tune in
a key with zero Gs. This would necessitate using trouble clef for the
fiddles who naturally prefer their G's.  

Victoria

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Hugh --

It did have a nasty macro Virus in it.  .EXE type attachments are removed
automatically before they get to the list reflector, but I can't do much
about all-text items.  I just hope people didn't get in any difficulty
by reading this stuff in Outlook.

-- Alan


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Red House is on "New Wine in Old Bottles" by the Assembly Players, I
believe.

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--- Sharon Green <mls-AT-
panix.com> wrote:
> Steve:
> Parthenia & Jovial Beggars [3-couple set version] are on Wild
> Thyme's cassettes of Maggot Pie. 

And I have a version of Parthenia that was recorded by Norb
Spencer and Paul Woodiel as a practice tape for Reel Nutmeg.

Andy in Portland

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Dan's right--it's the tune for Katie the Nuisance.  Bizarre!  But it's
played just 3 x through, Gene--you can still record the ultimate longways
version.
Sharon

At 02:04 PM 12/6/00 -0500, Pearl, Dan wrote:
>Red House is on "New Wine in Old Bottles" by the Assembly Players, I
>believe.
>

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Victoria wrote:

 >Hm. We seem to be talking about a different Gay Gordons than the
 >one I remember. The A part is the same-- Varsouvienne hold,
 >walking forward 4 steps CCW 1/2 turn and back up 4 steps, walk
 >forward CW 4 steps, 1/2 turn and back up to starting place. Then
 >we differ.
 >
 >B --1-4 Man takes four small two steps forward, moving CCW
 >around circle, while Woman, using four two-steps, does turns
 >(some do two half turns, some do four full turns) under their
 >joined right arms.
 >
 >5-8 take ballroom hold and do four two-steps turning, moving CW
 >and making 1/2 turns.
 >
 >Does anybody else do this version? I danced it on the east coast
 >in the early 1960's and in Chicago in the late sixties, but
 >haven't done it since moving to Seattle 30 years ago.

That's the one I know, originally from contradances in
Massachusetts in the 1970s. In view of the present discussion,
though, I would add that the 1/2 turns in the A section are
parallel, first both to the right, then both to the left and I
would clarify that the music goes A B, without repeats (16 bars).

Albert wrote:

 >The tune was always Scotland the Brave

I've seen it done to Scotland the Brave at Scottish dances. I've
always done it (I know, Sharon, I know) to a tune that AFAIK is
called "Gay Gordons." Here it is in abc:

X:1
T:Gay Gordons
M:C|
L:1/4
K:G
P:A
G>A BA/G/|c/B/c/d/ ed/c/|Bg d/e/d/c/|BA A2|
G>A BA/G/|c/B/c/d/ ed/c/|Bg d/e/d/c/|BG G2||
P:B
g2 de/f/|gd BG|gd d/e/d/c/|BA A2|
g2 de/f/|gd BG|cA d/e/d/c/|BG G2|]

So does anybody know if this tune has another name?

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--- Alan Corkett <alan-AT-
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> Very interesting discussion ...about how dances drop out of
> fashion ie. "I last did GG 30 years ago."
> I expect many folk (English country) dancers in UK would not
> admit to doing GG, as it is a dance anyone (even beginners)
can 
> do.

That makes me think of May Gadd telling us something about not
doing the hard dances well if you can't do the easy ones. Easy
dances are inclusive of all skill levels. People who think they
are too experienced to do the easy dances are forgetting that
they were beginners at one time and are excluding the experience
of welcoming new dancers into their community. I happen to like
doing some of those old easy dances. I get weary of every dance
being more complex than the one before it. I go dancing because
I enjoy it and would rather not have to spend all of the evening
grinding through one complex dance after another. It's not that
I don't enjoy an occasional complex dance, I would just rather
be able to relax my brain occassionally during an evening.

Andy in Portland

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Marian,

I agree whole heartedly!
I got the CD on Monday so tried "Winter Solstice" to it on Tuesday, and
even though it was to the wrong tune (and yes, I had stated my
preferences earlier in the year when requested) I still tried using it.
I'm sorry to say the group found it far to "wishy-washy" and asked to go
back to the old version I had done in Cakewalk (using the mouse to enter
all the notes) !

Thankfully they liked the other dances I did off the CD last night.

Anyway, if you have cakewalk, and would like a copy of my attempts of
playing the tune, please let me know off-list. It is only a very basic
interpretation of the tune using a couple of instruments - a 29KB file.

Trevor Monson.



> I'm crushed!
>
> When I heard that the Modern Treasures cd was out containing the tune
> "Winter Solstice," I rushed to the telephone and ordered it.  At last,
I
> thought, I get to hear the mystery tune, the tune for which neither
> recordings nor sheet music are available in the United States!
>
> And the band played . . . . "Early One Morning,"  a tune that I can
never
> hear without also having to hear the horridly sappy lyrics in my head.
> "While the dance has its own tune (the jig "Winter Solstice" by David
Dean,
> published with the dance directions), Bare Necessities and the Boston
Centre
> enjoy the graceful quality lent by the folk song . . . . "
>
> WAAAAAH!
>
> Does anyone have a US source for either the sheet music or a recording
of
> "Winter Solstice" by David Dean?
>
> Marian
>



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> Another approach would be to choreograph a dance for sky divers.  The

Yet another option would be to dance on ice.  In Alaska they
have dances on the ice.  This provides a different
constraint, by cancelling the vertical drop, yet providing
no (or extremely diminished) lateral frictional forces from
the floor.  

I have observed some dancers who could learn much from
dancing on ice.

> Let's hear it for G!  It's the dancers' friend, not enemy!

We'll just have fun, with or without it.

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Sharon sez:
>> I have no recording for Red House.  <<

It's on the Broadside Band's "English Country Dances from Playford's Dancing
Master 1651-1703" -- CDSS carries it.  According to the liner notes it goes
3 times through the dance.

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Gordon! You're a pal! I thoroughly agree with everything you say. This
business of welcoming newcomers, well, it is not a new problem. I remember
being told in 1956 to come back when I had been to classes becaus eI went
wrong or did not know something; needless to say I never went to that claub
again. But it happens now still, I guess, the big put off by the expert, you
don't even have to say anything! the eyes have it!
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--- Alan Corkett <alan-AT-
bcorkett.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Very interesting discussion ...about how dances drop out of
> fashion ie. "I last did GG 30 years ago."
> I expect many folk (English country) dancers in UK would not
> admit to doing GG, as it is a dance anyone (even beginners)
can
> do.

That makes me think of May Gadd telling us something about not
doing the hard dances well if you can't do the easy ones. Easy
dances are inclusive of all skill levels. People who think they
are too experienced to do the easy dances are forgetting that
they were beginners at one time and are excluding the experience
of welcoming new dancers into their community. I happen to like
doing some of those old easy dances. I get weary of every dance
being more complex than the one before it. I go dancing because
I enjoy it and would rather not have to spend all of the evening
grinding through one complex dance after another. It's not that
I don't enjoy an occasional complex dance, I would just rather
be able to relax my brain occassionally during an evening.

Andy in Portland

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Eric Arnold wrote eloquently about the sense of "down" --

>   ...
>By breaking the symmetry of space in establishing a sense of "down" we
>immediately have to provide a limiting surface (the dance floor) which
>limits and constrains our motion in this direction, essentially limiting
>our space to a two-dimensional one   ...   
>   ...   But this constraint has one very significant virtue which
>influences the nature of the figures that we do enormously: by the force
>gravity causes us to exert on the floor, and the corresponding force that
>the floor exerts on us to counteract that of gravity, we find that there
>are frictional forces that can be created in the plane of the floor, and
>as we push with our legs against the floor in a way not exactly
>perpendicular to the floor, the floor pushes back on us with an equal and
>opposite force, which enables us to accelerate or stop in our motions in
>this horizontal plane.   ...
>
>But the majority of the figures we do depend essentially on the forces
>parallel to the floor which the force of gravity perpendicular to the
>floor enables   ...

Which reminded me of an incident of about 17 years ago that 
deserves to be written "down"...

Some folks were contra dancing on the second floor of a barn.  
They were, so to speak, "getting 'down.'".  As they danced to 
the strains of "'Down' the Brae," they were dutifully obeying 
the law of gravity, which was pulling them "down."  The caller 
told them to go "down" the hall, and they complied.  When they 
turned to come back up, the barn, old and a bit tired in the 
joints, had other ideas.  Due to the friction of the dancer's 
feet and the momentum, the floor responded with less than an 
equal and opposite reaction.  Which is to say, the dance floor 
continued "down" for about a foot, even as the dancers tried 
to dance back up.  The dancers were afraid that the barn might 
fall "down."  The caller calmed the dancers "down," and asked 
the dancers to go "down" out of the barn.  Then he turned the 
PA "down."  The dance organizers, who loved the old barn, 
realized that they would have to find a new venue.  What a 
let-"down."  The only bright spot in the whole story is that 
it all happened in the Summer, so no one was wearing "down."

Roger Diggle

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>
>
>Roger Diggle
>
>The electrons in this message are packaged by weight, not by volume.
>Some settling may have occurred during shipping.

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I can't decode the ABC, but there's a set of tunes for Gay Gordons 
on New England Chestnuts 2 which leads off with a tune called "The 
Gay Gordons" and includes "Farewell to the Glen."

Roger Diggle


DavBarnert-AT-
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>I've seen it done to Scotland the Brave at Scottish dances. I've
>always done it (I know, Sharon, I know) to a tune that AFAIK is
>called "Gay Gordons." Here it is in abc:
>
>X:1
>T:Gay Gordons
>M:C|
>L:1/4
>K:G
>P:A
>G>A BA/G/|c/B/c/d/ ed/c/|Bg d/e/d/c/|BA A2|
>G>A BA/G/|c/B/c/d/ ed/c/|Bg d/e/d/c/|BG G2||
>P:B
>g2 de/f/|gd BG|gd d/e/d/c/|BA A2|
>g2 de/f/|gd BG|cA d/e/d/c/|BG G2|]
>
>So does anybody know if this tune has another name?
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Mike Mudrey wrote:  

>>Roger Diggle
>>
>>The electrons in this message are packaged by weight, not by volume.
>>Some settling may have occurred during shipping.
>
>Yes...roger...they did settle a little during shipping.

Even electrons know which way is "down," I guess...

RD

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How do I know if I "caught" this virus? I opened Paul's (amusing) message,
but I thought even a PC couldn't be infected with a virus unless one opens
an attachment. (I didn't notice one.) And where do I go to get the "kak
virus fix?"
Bree Kalb

 
At 05:07 PM 12/6/00 +0000, you wrote:
>   I apologise for the virus and thanks for telling  me. Apparently the Kak
>virus was sent to me, via e-mail. It can be rectified by downloading 'kak
>virus fix'  - it takes a few minutes.   Paul Hutchinson.   ps tirbute
>should have course read  tubrite   
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Bree wrote:

 How do I know if I "caught" this virus? I opened Paul's (amusing) message,
 but I thought even a PC couldn't be infected with a virus unless one opens
 an attachment. (I didn't notice one.) And where do I go to get the "kak
 virus fix?"

If your mail client is Outlook it can (and may) execute Visual Basic code 
that's included in a message it displays.  (This is one of many excellent
reasons not to use Outlook, or any mail reader that displays HTML, for that
matter.)  So you don't even necessarily have to open an attachment in that
case.  

I looked at your headers but there isn't X-User-Agent, so I can't tell what
mail client you use.  However, your message wasn't infected, so it looks 
like you're okay. 

-- Alan
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--- Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing
<winston-AT-
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> If your mail client is Outlook it can (and may) execute Visual
> Basic code that's included in a message it displays.  (This is

> one of many excellent reasons not to use Outlook, or any mail 
> reader that displays HTML, for that matter.)  So you don't
even 
> necessarily have to open an attachment in that case.  
> 

One of the other e-mail groups that I am on is hosted through
eGroups.com. We were receiving a kak virus attached to the HTML
banner ads that were attached to every e-mail by the host. Most
of that group has their preferences set to text only. Only the
people that got the attachment as a banner ad and use MS mail
products were effected by it. It seems that most viruses are
aimed at MS products. Someone stated that there are only a few
known viruses that effect Macs. I use Netscape and didn't have
any problems.

Andy

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At 09:43 06/12/00 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Everyone, may I respectfully request that you quote only as much of a
>previous message as is necessary...

Hear , hear !

> I've been
>recycling a lot of paper with copies of the same long messages on it lately.

???
Why should e-mail exchanges involve the use of paper?

Somebody appears to have misunderstood the purpose of electronic
intercourse !
Martin,
 in Grenoble, France.

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                  (dance groups,  some new dances ...)
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--- Roger Diggle <diggle-AT-
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> Eric Arnold wrote eloquently about the sense of "down" --
> 
> >...and as we push with our legs against the floor in a way
not
> >exactly perpendicular to the floor, the floor pushes back on 
> >us with an equal and opposite force, which enables us to 
> >accelerate or stop in our motions in this horizontal plane.  


I *don't* push with my legs against the floor. At least not in
the way I undrestand Eric's meaning. I learned to dance by using
my whole body and leaning my weight in the direction that I wish
to go. My legs are only there to stop me from falling over, thus
resisting the gravitational tendency to fall when you lean. This
way of dancing often gets me accused of taking too long a step,
but it actually isn't a longer step, it is that the momentum of
my body causes me to cover more ground. When couple dancing it
is easier to transmit ones intended direction by moving the
entire body than by moving ones legs and pushing with ones arms.
If your entire body moves, your partner has to go with you.

Actually, I realized the advantage of leaning ones body weight
in the direction one wants to move long before I realized that I
danced that way. It was while running in high school track.
There was one fairly fast fellow that ran the half mile on the
track team. One time while watching him running with his body
actually leaning *back* and his hard-working legs churning away
to pull him down the track, I realized that if he would lean
forward and use his body weight to propel himself, along with
those churning legs, that he would likely be a lot faster.

Andy in Portland


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Hi
Peggy Spencer would be very proud of you!
Regards Alan
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--- Roger Diggle <diggle-AT-
bigfoot.com> wrote:
> Eric Arnold wrote eloquently about the sense of "down" --
> 
> >...and as we push with our legs against the floor in a way
not
> >exactly perpendicular to the floor, the floor pushes back on 
> >us with an equal and opposite force, which enables us to 
> >accelerate or stop in our motions in this horizontal plane.  


I *don't* push with my legs against the floor. At least not in
the way I undrestand Eric's meaning. I learned to dance by using
my whole body and leaning my weight in the direction that I wish
to go. My legs are only there to stop me from falling over, thus
resisting the gravitational tendency to fall when you lean. This
way of dancing often gets me accused of taking too long a step,
but it actually isn't a longer step, it is that the momentum of
my body causes me to cover more ground. When couple dancing it
is easier to transmit ones intended direction by moving the
entire body than by moving ones legs and pushing with ones arms.
If your entire body moves, your partner has to go with you.

Actually, I realized the advantage of leaning ones body weight
in the direction one wants to move long before I realized that I
danced that way. It was while running in high school track.
There was one fairly fast fellow that ran the half mile on the
track team. One time while watching him running with his body
actually leaning *back* and his hard-working legs churning away
to pull him down the track, I realized that if he would lean
forward and use his body weight to propel himself, along with
those churning legs, that he would likely be a lot faster.

Andy in Portland


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We often play for the GG from an ancient sheet music book by Jimmy Shand and
Ian Macleish, published in Glasgow at three shillings, donkeys' years ago.
It has a Gay Gordons set including "Corriechoillie's Welcome" and "I'll gang
nae mair tae yon toon"  a lovely smooth set with a good lift from D to A
when you change tunes.

Ron H

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Thanks for the information, Alan. This confirms my preference for clunky
old Eudora mail.--Bree

At 06:16 PM 12/6/00 -0700, you wrote:
>
>I looked at your headers but there isn't X-User-Agent, so I can't tell what
>mail client you use.  However, your message wasn't infected, so it looks 
>like you're okay. 
>
>-- Alan

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Wow! What a downer!

On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Roger Diggle wrote:

 . . .  The dance organizers, who loved the old barn, 
> realized that they would have to find a new venue.  What a 
> let-"down."  

I'm surprised that they didn't go down the road to look for a new one.
Even if they didn't find one, they could put it down as a good effort.

Eric (just down the road from you) Arnold

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Roger Diggle wrote:

 >I can't decode the ABC, but there's a set of tunes for Gay
 >Gordons on New England Chestnuts 2 which leads off with a tune
 >called "The Gay Gordons" and includes "Farewell to the Glen."

That's the tune. I guess it *is* called "The Gay Gordons."

Ron Hawkins wrote:

 >and it reminds me of the time many years ago when I went in to a
 >ladies' outfitters (store) in Oxford, to buy a pair of ladies'
 >elbow-length black evening gloves (don't ask why). The oh-so-
 >refined, elegant lady assistant looked down her nose at me and
 >said: "Oh no Sir, we don't stock them... there's no call for them
 >nowadays. And I DO wish people would stop asking me for them".

In the USA, we like to quote Yogi Berra, who said (among other pearls):
"Nobody goes there anymore.
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Sorry. Premature transmission.

Roger Diggle wrote:

 >I can't decode the ABC, but there's a set of tunes for Gay
 >Gordons on New England Chestnuts 2 which leads off with a tune
 >called "The Gay Gordons" and includes "Farewell to the Glen."

That's the tune. I guess it *is* called "The Gay Gordons."

Ron Hawkins wrote:

 >and it reminds me of the time many years ago when I went in to a
 >ladies' outfitters (store) in Oxford, to buy a pair of ladies'
 >elbow-length black evening gloves (don't ask why). The oh-so-
 >refined, elegant lady assistant looked down her nose at me and
 >said: "Oh no Sir, we don't stock them... there's no call for them
 >nowadays. And I DO wish people would stop asking me for them".

In the USA, we like to quote Yogi Berra, who said (among other pearls):
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."

David Barnert
<davbarnert-AT-
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Dave Barnert said:

> Sorry. Premature transmission.
[snip]
> In the USA, we like to quote Yogi Berra, who said (among other pearls):
> "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."


*phew* thank the Lord for that - I was puzzling over the incomplete version
of your post, Dave, and marvelling at the incomprehensible subtleties of the
American sense of humo(u)r.  Thanks for putting me out of my misery.

Ron H



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The idea of devoting BN's Volume 6 to "stuff that should have been
recorded by now but isn't" seems to be gaining some momentum (e.g.
Sharon's suggestion of Red House at "longways" length).  The Band
themselves would be happy doing that, and they recognize that their style
is more suited to that theme than the originally proposed "community
dances" theme.  Also, several folks have noted that music suitable for
community dances is well represented in recordings, especially by English
bands.  Of course, the Boston Centre recording committee and Board do
have a say.

Trevor and Marian... we owe you one!  What's your pleasure?

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On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Andrew Peterson wrote:

> I *don't* push with my legs against the floor. At least not in
> the way I undrestand Eric's meaning. I learned to dance by using
> my whole body and leaning my weight in the direction that I wish
> to go. My legs are only there to stop me from falling over, thus
> resisting the gravitational tendency to fall when you lean.

I think there's a very real possibility that my meaning was misunderstood
here.  However one imagines the source of the motion (and the artistic
images for this are legion), the physical facts are that there are only
three significant types of force that a dancer has to alter his* momentum,
and an alteration of momentum is necessary to change either speed or
direction.  

One type of force is through contact with another dancer, and
the effect of this type of force is to change the momentum of each dancer
by equal amounts in opposite directions.  This is particularly noticable
in figures such as right- & left-hand turns, two-hand turns, arming,
rights and lefts, and in ballroom frames, where it is frequently described
as "giving weight."  

Another type of force is frictional force between the dancer's foot (or
any other body part touching the floor) and the floor.  The frictional
part of this force is parallel to the floor, and, assuming that the floor
is level (which means that the gravitational force is perpendicular to
it), it is the _only_ force available to a dancer to change speed or
direction when not in contact with another dancer.  We're usually not
particularly aware of this force until it isn't there to the degree
that we require it, which is when we slip.  That is why the type
of soles we have on our shoes and the nature of the surface of the floor
are important, because they determine the character of these frictional
forces.

The third force is the gravitational force.  This force is (as mentioned
above) perpendicular to the floor (in principle, anyway; we all know the
effect when it isn't!) and has no component in any direction parallel to
the floor, so it cannot move us in any direction parallel to the floor. It
holds us against the floor as long as we don't press against it with a
force greater than it with our legs (including the feet as part of the
legs for the purposes of this argument); if we do, we leave the floor, but
gravity, sooner or later, brings us back to it.  As long as we _are_ in
contact with the floor, the floor pushes up on us as hard as gravity pulls
us down, so we don't go anywhere.  

This contact with the floor combined with the forces holding you against
the floor are what _enable_ the frictional forces parallel to the floor to
become functional.  It is the frictional force that keeps the foot from
slipping when you lean forward to start moving.  When you lean so that
your center of gravity is not over your feet, the force of gravity and the
force of support through your feet no longer balance, but cause you to
start to fall over.  To prevent that, you increase the force that your
legs apply to the floor (whatever the source of this force, whether the
muscles you use are in the legs or elsewhere, the force is transferred
through the legs to the floor) in just the right amount to keep you from
falling, but because that force is no longer perpendicular to the floor
(since you are now leaning), and because your feet don't slip (you hope!),
you also apply a tangential force parallel to the floor, and as long as
you aren't in the barn that Roger described, the floor pushes back on you
in an equal amount in the opposite direction, namely, the direction that
you want to go, so you start moving in that direction.

Once you have gained the desired speed, then maintaining it is primarily a
question of moving your feet in that direction so that, in an average
sense, your center of gravity remains over where your feet are.  Changing
direction or stopping requires a series of events similar to starting but
in a sideways direction (for turning) or reversed (for stopping).

That is the sense in which I meant "push with your legs."

Eric

*The argument is equally valid for a female dancer.

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Gene Murrow writes:
>> Trevor and Marian... we owe you one!  What's your pleasure?<<

Oi!  I'm stumped.  I guess I could ask for 45 minutes' worth of "Mr. Isaac's
Maggot" -- I'll bet no one's done that before -- but no matter how much I
like the dance personally, something tells me it wouldn't have universal
appeal.

The problem is, I don't have enough recordings to really have an opinion.

Has anyone recorded "Female Saylor" in that slinky, non-Christmassy style
that I keep hearing at dances?

Floundering,

Marian

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>Gene Murrow writes:
>>> Trevor and Marian... we owe you one!  What's your pleasure?<<
>
>Oi!  I'm stumped.  I guess I could ask for 45 minutes' worth of "Mr. Isaac's
>Maggot" -- I'll bet no one's done that before -- but no matter how much I
>like the dance personally, something tells me it wouldn't have universal
>appeal.
>

Well, maybe not as appealing as 45 minutes of Orleans Baffled.  But close!

Emily L. Ferguson
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Actually, I do have a suggestion for future CDs, except that I'm kind of
whistling in the dark because I'm not sure what's on the CDs in the rest of
the Boston Centre series.

I have noticed that a recurrent theme on this list is requests for dances
that are appropriate for a particular season or holiday -- for example, last
January and February there was a fairly lengthy discussion about dances for
Ground Hog Day and Valentine's Day, and spring dances in general; Christmas
and winter dances are another one.  Your Modern Treasures CD has four on
this theme -- "All Saints' Day," "In the Bleak Midwinter," "Winter
Solstice," and "Michael and All Angels."

You'd probably be doing a public service if you continued to scatter
seasonal- and holiday-specific dances into the recordings -- and as for the
theme of the number 6 CD, has anyone previously done "Cupid's Garden" and
"Valentine's Day"?  (I assume that "Upon a Summer's Day" and "Sun Assembly"
have already been recorded somewhere.)

Marian
PS - And there's the "Catholic Calendar" CD that's just waiting for some
misguided person to put out, entirely composed of saint-related dances.

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Quoth Marian Phillips:
> Actually, I do have a suggestion for future CDs, except that I'm kind of
> whistling in the dark because I'm not sure what's on the CDs in the rest of
> the Boston Centre series.

We've got a complete listing of vols. 1-4, and mp3 samples to boot, at
http://www.cds-boston.org/ecdc/.  And contrary to what the page says, Vol. 4
has been released and is available for purchase!

Jennie
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Somebody out there (Gene? Dan?) must have a list of recordings that 
they refer to to know which tunes are NOT needed for future volumes 
of the Boston Centre series.

Others of us would like to know what recording we could purchase in 
order to have recorded music for a particular dance.

I think you can see what I'm leading to.
-- 
"Come dancing, it's only natural." -- Ray Davies
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>
>Marian
>PS - And there's the "Catholic Calendar" CD that's just waiting for some
>misguided person to put out, entirely composed of saint-related dances.

Well, if you broaden that to the Anglican Calendar, has anyone written
a dance "St. Chad"?

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Gary wrote:

  Somebody out there (Gene? Dan?) must have a list of recordings that
  they refer to to know which tunes are NOT needed for future volumes
  of the Boston Centre series.

  Others of us would like to know what recording we could purchase in
  order to have recorded music for a particular dance.

  I think you can see what I'm leading to.

If people want to post track listings to the list, or mail them to
me, I'll be happy to put up a web page linked from the ECD home page.

-- Alan (winston-AT-
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I thought you might enjoy hearing yet another country's approach to Gay 
Gordons. I’ve been dancing annually in Brittany over about ten years. It must 
have been about 5 years ago that I noticed Gay Gordons take hold there, and 
now at this point it has become thoroughly enough entrenched that it can be 
danced more than once during a single evening’s fest noz… and even several 
times a day during a full-day affair (fest deiz!)…Each band at a dance 
festival will offer their own version --- to show they know how to please an 
audience! 

In the Breton formation, the Gay Gordons is conveniently allied to a 
Circassion circle: The dancers hear the jig "Tripping Upstairs" and it’s 
their cue to jump up to form a Circassian Circle. In the center of that 
circle, and/or off to the side, the more energetic dancers will pair up in 
two parallel lines to dance the Gay Gordons.  It’s a skaters’ hand hold, with 
the hands pleasantly pumping forward a little bit, twice per measure. (the 
same pumping hand action in the Circassion. It’s a sweet move incorporated 
from traditional Breton dance.) When turning, partners turn towards 
eachother. A jigging step is common throughout, as long as the energy holds 
up, so dancers cover a lot of ground, and it ends up being quite the workout. 
This import (via Ireland) is in contrast to the more conservative traditional 
Breton dances, and apparently fills a different need that shows no signs of 
passing out. (Though that's what I feel like after 15 minutes of that, which 
isn't unheard of...)

Sondra Bromka
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Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote:  

>Gary wrote:
>
>  Somebody out there (Gene? Dan?) must have a list of recordings that
>  they refer to to know which tunes are NOT needed for future volumes
>  of the Boston Centre series.
>
>  Others of us would like to know what recording we could purchase in
>  order to have recorded music for a particular dance.
>
>  I think you can see what I'm leading to.
>
>If people want to post track listings to the list, or mail them to
>me, I'll be happy to put up a web page linked from the ECD home page.
>
>-- Alan (winston-AT-
slac.stanford.edu)

Would it be worth asking for submissions in CDDB format 
so that the listings could also go there?  I suspect that 
CDDB may not have the data for some of this music.
http://www.cddb.com/

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IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THIS - Dan

- - - - - - - - 

Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:59:08 EST
From: Edmund Robinson
Subject: The passing of my mother-in-law
Dear friends and family,

Forgive this mass mailing, but my time is limited and my main computer is 
still out with the flu.  I want to let you know that Jacqueline's mother, 
Sylvia Schwab, died on Wednesday morning of a sudden heart attack.  She was 
78.  She is survived by Jacqueline's father Charles, Jacqueline and her 
sister Carol and brother Norman.  

I want to tell you a little bit about my mother-in-law, who was one of my 
favorite people in all the world.

Sylvia's parents emigrated to America from the Ukraine in the early decades 
of the Twentieth Century.  Her father Louis Louria was the only one of 13 
siblings to survive to adulthood, and his mother was damned if she would see

her only son used as cannon fodder in the Tsar's army, so she smuggled him 
out of the country.  Her mother Katherine (Katie) Melrose was from the same 
Ukrainian village as her father, but the two didn't meet until they were in 
New Jersey.  

Sylvia was born in Philadelphia and was raised by her mother and
grandmother, 
who had emigrated after her son.  Yiddish was the language spoken in the 
home, and politics were largely socialist, and their Judaism was cultural.  
Sylvia took her undergraduate degree at New Jersey State Teachers College in

Trenton, and then enlisted in the Women's Army Air Corps (WAACS) in 1943.  
She worked in a communications unit encoding dispatches in New Jersey.  She 
would have been shipped to Europe but got the flu and ended up assigned to 
Washington, where she spent several months in a building near the present 
Reagan National Airport.  She was discharged in 1945 with the rank of 
Sergeant, and got a Masters at NYU on the GI Bill.

She married Charles, who is not Jewish, on June 10, 1948, three days after I

was born.  Part of their courtship included time at Princeton, where Charles

had gone to college.  She started her teaching career in New York City.
When 
Jacqueline was born in 1953, they were living in Newark, but shortly 
thereafter they moved to Pittsburgh, where Charles was from.  Sylvia taught 
first grade in the Pittsburgh schools for over 25 years, ending up as an 
administrator at the Board of Education.  She was a pioneer and evangelist
in 
the Open Classroom movement. Almost all of her teaching was in inner-city 
schools.  She was a visceral champion of marginalized people.

She retired from the school system in 1984, and turned their Pittsburgh home

into a Bed and Breakfast, where she entertained guests from all over the 
world, exercising her overwhelming genetic urge to hospitality.  It was not 
unusual to come down in the morning to see Japanese eating with Russians.  
She got the travel bug herself, and she and Charles traveled extensively.  
About 6 years ago, they went to the Ukrainian village from which her parents

emigrated, but found no relatives.  Her last trip abroad was in February, 
2000, when they went to Italy.

In 1995, Sylvia and Charles moved to the Boston area to be near Carol and
her 
husband Hal and their new grandchild Matthew.  In 1997, the two couples 
bought a duplex in Arlington, about a mile from our apartment.  The 
experiment in intergenerational housing has been a great success, with the 
grandparents providing child care and spoiling little Matthew rotten.  It
has 
also brought Jacqueline, who left home at age 19, closer to her parents.

Sylvia was passionately fond of art and music, and has passed on that
passion 
to her three children: Jacqueline is a pianist, Carol is a visual artist and

videographer, and Norm is a lighting designer.  In November, I had the 
pleasure of driving Charles and Sylvia to Washington and back for 
Jacqueline's solo concert set at the Smithsonian Institution, where she 
played Civil-War-era music on a gilded Steinway that had been in the White 
House in Teddy Roosevelt's time as the kickoff to a series of concerts on 
music of the White House in honor of the 200th anniversary of that building.

Sylvia just beamed; she has always been Jacqueline's fondest fan.  While we 
were in town, she and I went to the Phillips Gallery, where she told me she 
"wanted to worship" in front of Renoir's famous "The Boating Party," which 
she remembered from her war years.  Later we took in the fabulous Art
Nouveau 
exhibit at the East Wing of the National Gallery.  

We don't know how much Sylvia saw of these art works, because her eyesight 
was failing rapidly.  She had macular degeneration.  But one other 
characteristic was that she was phobic about doctors and hospitals. She had 
no personal physician.  

On Tuesday she experienced chest pains and other discomfort.  By nightfall, 
these had developed into classic heart attack symptoms.  Carol had a long 
heart-to-heart talk with her, and Sylvia absolutely refused to be taken to 
the Emergency Room, and said she was going to bed and might consider going
in 
the morning.  She resolved to start the next day getting more exercise.  But

she also reiterated something she had often said, that she wanted to die 
naturally in her sleep in her own bed.  Carol called us and her uncle, and
we 
all concurred that Sylvia's wishes needed to be honored, though it sounded 
like she was in fact having a heart attack, and that meant that the rest of 
us wouldn't get to say good-bye.  Sylvia died in her sleep at about 5 in the

morning, as she had wished.

Sylvia will be cremated on Saturday at Mount Auburn Cemetery, and the family

will be sitting shiva, receiving visitors, at 32 Allen Street, Arlington, at

the following times: Saturday 3-6, Sunday 6-8, Monday 6-8, Tuesday 4-6.
Cards 
of condolence can be sent to Charles Schwab at 32 Allen St., Arlington, MA 
02474 or to Jacqueline Schwab at 18 Field Rd., Arlington MA 02476.
Memorials 
may be made to the Macular Degeneration Foundation, Inc. P.O. Box 9752, San 
Jose, CA 95157.

At some point later, a memorial service will be scheduled.  Sylvia wanted
her 
ashes scattered at the tip of Cape Cod.

On the day before she died, her other son-in-law Hal, a keen birdwatcher, 
found a dead sparrow hawk outside the subway station and brought it home.  
They put the body on the kitchen floor and marveled at it with 5-year-old 
Matthew.  In retrospect, this event looks not so much like an omen as an 
introduction to death for the child who would soon need it.  

Sylvia lived a full and rich and passionate life.  She was a great mother, 
hostess and human being.  I cherish the time I knew her.  We will all miss 
her.

Edmund Robinson
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Eons ago I got two separate mails about a fortnight apart from
people wanting to know whether John Playford was some ancestor
of theirs and whether I knew anything of his family.   This prodded
me into sending off smoke signals towards the EFDSS VWML library
and eventually I got back some kind of family tree.  I have typed this
in and finally got it in a public place on the Web at

http://www.cam.ac.uk/societies/round/playford/playford1623.htm

I would be interested in comments, and also comments on the lead-in
page at http://www.cam.ac.uk/societies/round/playford/index.htm

After that initial prod nobody has asked again about Playford family trees
so maybe nobody much is interested, but since I've typed it all in
it may as well go somewhere visible.

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On January 6th, 2001, Chatham Baroque presents its second annual Twelfth
Night Celebration, with Shakespearean skits, tunes and dancing.

Performance at 6:00pm

Dinner, auction and country dancing 7:00pm


Location:  Third Presbyterian Church, Fifth & Negley Avenues, Pittsburgh
PA

Ticket prices:  Concert only $25.00; Dinner, auction & dancing, $60.00.

Tickets may be purchased through ProArts ticket service (412) 394-3353. 
For more information about the event, visit www.chathambaroque.org

****

For ECDers--I'll be leading the after-dinner country dancing, which we
think will go on for an hour to an hour and a half.  We're offering a
free workshop at 11 that morning for those "who desire a headstart on the
evening."  

Allison Thompson

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I would like to thank Dan Pearl for passing along the lovely testimonial to
Jaqueline Shwabs mother. My mother-in-law was also one of the great people in my
life and I can sympathise with Edmund to no small degree. Please pass on my
condolences to both Jaqueline and Edmund on their loss.

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Dan, thank you for posting Edmund's very moving tribute to Jacqueline's
mother - what a fine person she was! This was the first I had heard of her
death, so I am both distressed at the sad news and grateful for the
notification.

Hugh, I have posted the Genforum "Playford Family Site" about your John
Playford family tree - I checked; there were no previous posts about dancing
in this genealogy forum, so it will be interesting to see what develops. I
included a bit about CDSS and EFDSS, and invited present-day Playfords to
join us in the dance. Thanks for the tip.

Susan Booker



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[This appeared to me to be obvious interest to the ECD list.  -- Alan]

From: David Parsons <david.parsons-AT-
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Subject: Conference: John Playford and the English Dancing Master 1651
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To commemorate the 350th anniversary of the publication of the first book on
dancing in English, the Dolmetsch Historical Dance Society and the English Folk
Dance and Song Society are organising a conference at Cecil Sharp House in
London on 24th to 25th March 2001.

Speakers are expected to include:
Jeremy Barlow, Michael Barraclough, Peter Bohlin, Nic Broadbridge, Diana
Cruickshank, Anne Daye, Hazel Dennison, Birte Hoffmann-Cabenda, Colin Hume,
Diana Jewitt, Robert Keller, Ann Kent, Jennifer Kiek, Gene Murrow, Annie
Richardson, Ellis Rogers, Derek Schofield, Jørgen Schou-Pedersen, Julia Sutton
& Hannelore Unfried

In addition to papers there will be workshops, a ball and a tea dance.

For details, including the registration form and prices, please see our website

http://www.dhds.org.uk

or contact David Wilson <mailto: david.wilson28-AT-
ntlworld.com>

David Parsons

PS If anyone is aware of other lists that are likely to be interested, please
contact me <mailto: david.parsons-AT-
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Isn't chad something to do with your latest election attempt. Maybe both
candidates are praying to St. Chad instead of relying on a pile of
judges!
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> >
> >Marian
> >PS - And there's the "Catholic Calendar" CD that's just waiting for
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> >misguided person to put out, entirely composed of saint-related
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>
> Well, if you broaden that to the Anglican Calendar, has anyone written
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I'm posting this for Steve Maranto in San Diego.

There's a new ECD group there, and they're practicing for a special event
coming soon.  They're dancing to recordings -- no ECD musicians yet.

Steve asked if I could give him sources for recordings of a number of dance
tunes.  I found some, and these are the ones I didn't find.

Can you help?  If you know tapes / CDs that include (danceable) recordings
of these tunes, please let Steve know.  He's at spaul54-AT-
adnc.com

And if you know where he could get the tapes/CDs (especially if they're not
available from CDSS) that would be much appreciated.

Thanks for your help.

Mary Devlin


Tea for Two 

Trip to Greene

Graie's Inn Masque

Parthenia

Wooing Mairi

Parson's Farewell

Step Stately

Mount Hills

Jovial Beggars


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Further to Gene's request for BN's vol.6 wish list; here is a list of
dances that Wendy feels should be recorded (particularly those marked
with an *):-

The Black Boy (Ashover version)
Blew Cap
Blue Britches
Bonny Sue
Buckingham House
Bump her Belly
Calypso and Telemachus
Camberwell *
Constant Lover
Devonshire House
Dainty Fine Bride
Devil in the Bush
Devil's Dream (as in The Frolic)
Donawert Pass
Durham Stable
Every Lad his Lass
French Peasant and Jig
Frolic
The Green Man
The Gun
Irish Lady
Irish Trot
Jack a Lent
John Raymond
King's Arms Assembly
Kitty Alone
Lady Banbury's Hornpipe
Lady-Day
Lord Frog
Love for Love *
Maid's Delight
Mars and Venus
Merry Girls of Maidstone
Miss Barrett's Waltz
More the Merrier
My Lady Foster's Delight
The Nymph
Old Harry
Old Noll's Jig
Once I Loved a Maiden Fair *
Paul's Alley
Paul's Wharf
Pint of Derby
Prince George's Birthday (for longways progressive dance) *
Prince William II (Holland as Seen ....)
Put in all
Ratcliff Cross
Ravencroft's Hornpipe
Red Bull (as in The Frolic)
Rockingham Castle
Roger De Paseby (as a minuet)
Rose is White Rose is Red
St. Bride's
St. James's Beauties *
Sea Nymphs
She Would if she could
Soho Square *
Soldier's Life
Tatler
Tod's Assembly
Touch and Take
Trip to Islington
Union Jigg
Up with the Orange
Vienna
Wallingford House
Worcester Assembly
Yellow Stockings
Young Phyllis of Wakefield

A selection of dances from the Neal Collection (Knives and Forks
excepted)

Any of the dances from Chip Hendrickson's recent books.

Now you wish you had not asked.


Graham and Wendy Knight

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> [This appeared to me to be obvious interest to the ECD list.  -- Alan]
>
> From: David Parsons <david.parsons-AT-
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> Subject: Conference: John Playford and the English Dancing Master 1651
> Sender: Renaissance Dance Mailing List <RENDANCE-AT-
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> To commemorate the 350th anniversary of the publication of the first book
on
> dancing in English, the Dolmetsch Historical Dance Society and the English
Folk
> Dance and Song Society are organising a conference at Cecil Sharp House in
> London on 24th to 25th March 2001.
>
> Speakers are expected to include:
> Jeremy Barlow, Michael Barraclough, Peter Bohlin, Nic Broadbridge, Diana
> Cruickshank, Anne Daye, Hazel Dennison, Birte Hoffmann-Cabenda, Colin
Hume,
> Diana Jewitt, Robert Keller, Ann Kent, Jennifer Kiek, Gene Murrow, Annie
> Richardson, Ellis Rogers, Derek Schofield, Jørgen Schou-Pedersen, Julia
Sutton
> & Hannelore Unfried
>
> In addition to papers there will be workshops, a ball and a tea dance.
>
> For details, including the registration form and prices, please see our
website
>
> http://www.dhds.org.uk
>
> or contact David Wilson <mailto: david.wilson28-AT-
ntlworld.com>
>
> David Parsons
>
> PS If anyone is aware of other lists that are likely to be interested,
please
> contact me <mailto: david.parsons-AT-
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>
> --
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Re: Wendy's Wish list. . . .
   I've been privy to Wendy's huge data base of repertoire, so I have to ask 
(as much out of interest as ignorance):  are these dances all part of the 
common repertoire on your side of the pond?  They are almost all unfamiliar 
to me (not a big surprise, that).  Is it just me or are these unfamiliar to 
most of us over here?  What am I/are we missing?!
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>Re: Wendy's Wish list. . . .
>   I've been privy to Wendy's huge data base of repertoire, so I have 
>to ask (as much out of interest as ignorance):  are these dances all 
>part of the common repertoire on your side of the pond?  They are 
>almost all unfamiliar to me (not a big surprise, that).  Is it just 
>me or are these unfamiliar to most of us over here?  What am I/are 
>we missing?!

Phew, I thought I was just WAY outta practice.

Mary Beth
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It's just the same old England/America problem: two dance communities
separated by a common repertoire...
Sharon


At 04:51 PM 12/10/00 -0500, Mary Beth Goodman wrote:
>>Re: Wendy's Wish list. . . .
>>   I've been privy to Wendy's huge data base of repertoire, so I have 
>>to ask (as much out of interest as ignorance):  are these dances all 
>>part of the common repertoire on your side of the pond?  They are 
>>almost all unfamiliar to me (not a big surprise, that).  Is it just 
>>me or are these unfamiliar to most of us over here?  What am I/are 
>>we missing?!
>
>Phew, I thought I was just WAY outta practice.
>
>Mary Beth

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At 10:28 AM 12/10/00 -0800, Mary Devlin wrote:
>Can you help?  If you know tapes / CDs that include (danceable) recordings
>of these tunes, please let Steve know.  He's at spaul54-AT-
adnc.com
>
>And if you know where he could get the tapes/CDs (especially if they're not
>available from CDSS) that would be much appreciated.

>Trip to Greene
Tune: Petticoat Wag on Country Capers [NY Renaissance Band/Arabesque]

>Graie's Inn Masque
Danses Populaires Francaises [Broadside Band, Harmonia Mundi]

>Parthenia
Maggot Pie [Wild Thyme, Cotswold Music]
For Your Pleasure 2 [Peter Jenkins/available via Charles Bolton?]

>Wooing Mairi
Hold the Mustard English Country Dance Favorites

>Parson's Farewell
English Dancing Master v.1 [Orange & Blue]

>Step Stately
Step Stately [CDSS cassette]

>Mount Hills
7 to Midnight [Pyewackett/available via Rosie Cross--Michael Barraclough
can put you in touch]
For Your Pleasure 1 [Peter Jenkins/available via Charles Bolton?]
All Alive [Two's Company/available via Charles?]

>Jovial Beggars
Maggot Pie [Wild Thyme/Cotswold Music]

I don't guarantee the absolute danceability of these because I haven't had
to call to recorded music for a few years now.   They're what I listen to
when I want to remind myself of a tune [and am too lazy to work it
out--shame on me!]

Most of these recordings are available via CDSS.  Michael Barraclough &
Charles Bolton are on the list--it would be very kind of them to get in
touch with Steve about the cassettes he can't find elsewhere.

Steve, do you need sheet music as well?

Love to you and Jutta--
Sharon
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Hi Sharon & for the benefit of others...
"Parsons Farewell" is (TWICE) on the "Live Music CD from Halsway Manor".
(short sample s of some tracks on www.halswaymanor.co.uk page of millenium
CD.
Available from me at $17.50 plus ($2.25)post & pack plus $2.50
exchange(TOTAL = $22.25) sent to a USA address. Email me if interested. We
have CDs winging their way to USA as we speak...
Regards Alan Corkett (or Allen Cawkit!)
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At 10:28 AM 12/10/00 -0800, Mary Devlin wrote:
>Can you help?  If you know tapes / CDs that include (danceable) recordings
>of these tunes, please let Steve know.  He's at spaul54-AT-
adnc.com
>
>And if you know where he could get the tapes/CDs (especially if they're not
>available from CDSS) that would be much appreciated.

>Trip to Greene
Tune: Petticoat Wag on Country Capers [NY Renaissance Band/Arabesque]

>Graie's Inn Masque
Danses Populaires Francaises [Broadside Band, Harmonia Mundi]

>Parthenia
Maggot Pie [Wild Thyme, Cotswold Music]
For Your Pleasure 2 [Peter Jenkins/available via Charles Bolton?]

>Wooing Mairi
Hold the Mustard English Country Dance Favorites

>Parson's Farewell
English Dancing Master v.1 [Orange & Blue]

>Step Stately
Step Stately [CDSS cassette]

>Mount Hills
7 to Midnight [Pyewackett/available via Rosie Cross--Michael Barraclough
can put you in touch]
For Your Pleasure 1 [Peter Jenkins/available via Charles Bolton?]
All Alive [Two's Company/available via Charles?]

>Jovial Beggars
Maggot Pie [Wild Thyme/Cotswold Music]

I don't guarantee the absolute danceability of these because I haven't had
to call to recorded music for a few years now.   They're what I listen to
when I want to remind myself of a tune [and am too lazy to work it
out--shame on me!]

Most of these recordings are available via CDSS.  Michael Barraclough &
Charles Bolton are on the list--it would be very kind of them to get in
touch with Steve about the cassettes he can't find elsewhere.

Steve, do you need sheet music as well?

Love to you and Jutta--
Sharon


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--- Orly Krasner <okrasner-AT-
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> Re: Wendy's Wish list. . . .
>    I've been privy to Wendy's huge data base of repertoire, so
> I have to ask (as much out of interest as ignorance):  are 
> these dances all part of the common repertoire on your side of

> the pond?  They are almost all unfamiliar to me (not a big 
> surprise, that).  Is it just me or are these unfamiliar to
most 
> of us over here?  What am I/are we missing?!

I just read over the list and I don't recognize most of them
from any place on the west side of the pond that I've danced in
the last 30 years.

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Can anyone give me information on a folk dance list serv?

Thanks,
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The Christmas Dance party of Country Dancers of
Westchester is this Friday at 8pm, December 15, at the
Church in the Highlands on Bryant Ave., White Plains,
NY.

Barbara Finney is caller for the party, with music by
Lise Brown, Mary Lea, and Roberta Sutter.

Refreshments at the break. Contributions to the
feeding array are most welcome.

Admission is $12.00. For CDW members, it's $10.00.
 
Directions to the Church in the Highlands and other
CDW information are available at our website:  
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/2225/

For more information, call Leah at 914/693-5577.
 
Also mark your calendars to dance out the last hours
of the 20th century and the 2nd millennium at the
annual New Year's Eve dance. It'll be held at St
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I'm not sure! I've only heard of half a dozen of those dances and we're
only separated by a few counties! I've also been on many of Wendys
weekends and still not come across them. Is there a secret agenda going
on or are these all dances we should be doing? (And if so, can you list
the sources please Wendy/Graham?)
Trev.

> Re: Wendy's Wish list. . . .
>    I've been privy to Wendy's huge data base of repertoire, so I have
to ask
> (as much out of interest as ignorance):  are these dances all part of
the
> common repertoire on your side of the pond?  They are almost all
unfamiliar
> to me (not a big surprise, that).  Is it just me or are these
unfamiliar to
> most of us over here?  What am I/are we missing?!
> --Orly
>



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The Tatler is on the latest Assembly Players CD 'Pat Shaw's Playford'.
The Black Boy is on Dutch Comfort's 'Shades of Shaw/Dunant's Favourites", now 
available on CD.

Step Stately is on 'Grand Master, Dancing Master' and also on 'Playford 
Pops', both in CD format.
                                            Nicolas B., Lanark, Scotland.

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The Williamsburg Heritage Dancers are sponsoring an English Country Dance
Workshop on Saturday, January 20, 2001, featuring the eminent Bostonian,
George Fogg.

The workshop will be held in the studios of the Eastern Virginia School for
the Arts, US 60 East, Williamsburg VA.

There will be two sessions: 1:30-4:30 pm and 7:30-10:30 pm.

Cost is $10 per session or $15 for both.

For additional information contact Lou Vosteen <LVOSTEEN-AT-
widomaker.com>


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"...Is there a secret agenda going
on or are these all dances we should be doing? "

Dear Dancers - I find this mystery and sense of obligation quite
overwhelming!

It would be nice to dance because you enjoy "the dance", not because one
should, or am I expressing a minority view here?


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Alan,
Maybe this lost a bit in translation. What I meant by "are these all
dances we should be doing? "
is:
Are these good dances that for some reason we have not come across
before?  By "good" this is open to individual interpretation, but for
further guidance there was a long thread on what people liked about
dances, magic moments in them etc.earlier in the year.
I feel the only time you should be obliged to dance is if by not dancing
people will have to sit out as a set cannot be completed, or if your
partner is expecting you do dance that dance with them!

Trevor Monson.

> "...Is there a secret agenda going
> on or are these all dances we should be doing? "
>
> Dear Dancers - I find this mystery and sense of obligation quite
> overwhelming!
>
> It would be nice to dance because you enjoy "the dance", not because
one
> should, or am I expressing a minority view here?
>



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The idea of having a volume exclusively devoted to set dances is great. I
hate seeing ECD becoming only longways dances. And I also do hope that BN is
not going to play every dance on it "longer than needed".

Here are some suggestions:

Christmas at Zeist
Happily Emma After
Juliana
Kneeland Romp
Scotch Cap
Shropshire Lass
Patrick's Waltz
Sir Watkin's Jig
Trip to Hexham
Nonsuch Cottage
Kitty Alone
Amazed Geneticist
Hortonia
Terpsichore
Hyde Park
Since first I saw your face
The Twins
An Enchanted Place
Wrights of Lichfield
Dusty Miller
Oil the Locks

Philippe Callens
Antwerp, Belgium



Gene Murrow wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> The Boston Centre and Bare Necessitites are preparing to record volumes 5
> and 6 in their continuing English Country dance series, and we'd sure
> appreciate your help in deciding what the contents should be.
>
> The tentative plan is as follows:
>
> Volume 5: a collection of small set dances, suitable for occasions when a
> few friends get together at someone's home and just want to dance, as
> well as for the more typical dance events.  Don Bell suggested this as
> "living-room English."
>
> Volume 6: a collection of "community dances," simple English dances
> suitable for family dances, or weddings and similar celebrations where
> there may be many people who are not regular dancers.
>
> What would you like to see on these discs?  Are there more pressing
> needs/themes that should be addressed before either of these?
>
> When suggesting dances/tunes, please consider such issues as popularity,
> the music's appeal on its own (many folks buy the CD's for listening
> only), and whether or not the music for the dance has already been
> recorded.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Gene Murrow, Producer
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***Mark your calendars!***

Bare Necessities will provide a fantastic twelfth annual weekend in
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on February 23-25, 2001.

Friday, Feb 23:  Contra Dance called by Ron Buchanan, with music by Peter
Barnes & Mary Lea.  8:00 - 11:00 at the Edgewood Club, 1 Pennwood Ave. 
($7/person)

Saturday, Feb 24, English Country Dance Workshop led by Jacqueline Schwab
with music by BN, from 1:00 to 4:00 at the Swisshelm Park Community
Center ($14/person)

Saturday, Feb 24, English Dance Party, 8:00 - 11:00 at the Swisshelm Park
Community Center.  The evening includes dancing (all dances taught), a
pot-luck tea, a cake-walk (a Pittsburgh tradition for more than 30 years)
and other fun!  Festive attire encouraged.  (15/person)

Sunday, Feb 25, 1:00 - 4:00, Advanced English Workshop, led by
Jacqueline, with music by BN, Swisshelm Park Community Center
($14/person).

***Register by February 15 to attend all four events for $48***

For registration, maps, hospitality and questions, contact Ralph Bangs at
(412) 422-7265 or rbangs-AT-
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TWELFTH NIGHT REVELS CEILIDH - (Hurry a few tickets left!)

...bare necessities are:
    a.. You must have a ticket
    b.. You must come prepared to enjoy yourself
    c.. you must partake of the mulled wine, punch & mince pies
    d.. you must either enjoy the English Country Dancing, English Morris Dancing, English Sword Dancing, Singing English Songs or be a musician!
If having dinner, arrive by 6pm (£12.00). Ceilidh commences at 8pm(£3.50). Those staying the night need to have booked in advance.(£32.00)
Contact office at Halsway Manor Tel; 01984 618 274 or email office-AT-
halswaymanor.co.uk  If you need directions to the manor at Crowcombe, Somerset UK, email - editor-AT-
halswaymanor.co.uk 
NB New Halsway Manor Magazine now published - If you would like to see one I will send you one for FREE or look at previous issues on www.halswaymanor.co.uk

PS. Last orders please for Christmas delivery for the benefit CD "Live Music from Halsway" available from me one copy - 21 dollars incl p/p; two copies - 37 dollars. Arrangements have been made to accept dollar cheque via a Seattle a/c. Again samples available on website.
PPS Happy Christmas!

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left!)</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>...bare necessities 
are:</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<UL>
    <LI><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>You must have a 
    ticket</FONT></STRONG></LI>
    <LI><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>You must come prepared to enjoy 
    yourself</FONT></STRONG></LI>
    <LI><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>you must partake of the mulled wine, 
    punch &amp; mince pies</FONT></STRONG></LI>
    <LI><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>you must either enjoy the English 
    Country Dancing, English Morris Dancing, English Sword Dancing, Singing 
    English Songs or be a musician!</FONT></STRONG></LI></UL>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>If having dinner, arrive by 6pm 
(&pound;12.00). Ceilidh commences at 8pm(&pound;3.50). Those staying the night 
need to have booked in advance.(&pound;32.00)</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Contact office at Halsway Manor Tel; 
01984 618 274 or email <A 
href="mailto:office-AT-
halswaymanor.co.uk">office-AT-
halswaymanor.co.uk</A>&nbsp; If 
you need directions to the manor at Crowcombe, Somerset UK, email - <A 
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</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT 
color=#0000ff size=2>NB New Halsway Manor Magazine now published - If you would 
like to see one I will send you one for FREE or look at previous issues on <A 
href="http://www.halswaymanor.co.uk">www.halswaymanor.co.uk</A></FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>PS. Last orders please for Christmas 
delivery for the benefit CD &quot;Live Music from Halsway&quot; available from 
me one copy - 21 dollars incl p/p; two copies - 37 dollars. Arrangements have 
been made to accept dollar cheque via a Seattle a/c. Again samples available on 
website.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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It was interesting to read the replies about our list of dances. They
have been used by Wendy in her GUSTO training programme so some have
been done recently by some dancers on this side of the Pond. All of them
are on Wendy's database with their figures. They were dances Wendy found
interesting and felt that there should be recordings available so that
they got more of an outing.

For information we have listed the sources for the dances, including
where possible any modern sources. Unfortunately, some of them are no
longer available. But if needs must I am sure we might be able to source
something for interested parties.

The Black Boy (Ashover version)
Blew Cap							Playford 1st edition
Blue Britches						Playford 1657 (24 country Dances)
Bonny Sue							Frolic (Audrey Town)
Buckingham House					Playford Vol. 2 (24 country Dances)
Bump her Belly						Playford 1714 (24 country Dances)
Calypso and Telemachus				Walsh (Fried - PP)
Camberwell *						Fallibroome 6
Constant Lover						Playford 1710 & Walsh 1718
Devonshire House					Again Let's be Merry
Dainty Fine Bride					Kynaston (Retread 6)
Devil in the Bush					Playford vol. 2
Devil's Dream (as in The Frolic)
Donawert Pass						Playford (Retread 6)
Durham Stable						Playford 1st edition (24 country 												Dances)
Every Lad his Lass					Playford (Country Dance Book 4)
French Peasant and Jig				Walsh 1718 (Fried - Road to Ruin)
Frolic								Frolic (Audrey Town)
The Green Man						Fallibroome 3
The Gun								Playford 1st Edition
Irish Lady							Playford 1st edition (Country Dance 											Book)
Irish Trot							Playford 1st edition (Country Dance 											book)
Jack a Lent							Playford 1st edition (Country Dance 											Book)
John Raymond						Between Two Ponds (Shaw)
King's Arms Assembly				Fallibroome 6
Kitty Alone							Between Two Ponds (Shaw)
Lady Banbury's Hornpipe				Playford 1657 (Country Dance Book)
Lady-Day							Playford 10th edition (New Series)
Lord Frog							Walsh 1713(Fried - PP)
Love for Love *						Playford 9th edition
Maid's Delight						Frolic (Audrey Town)
Mars and Venus						Fallibroome 4
Merry Girls of Maidstone			Fallibroome 3
Miss Barrett's Waltz				Fallibroome 4
More the Merrier					Playford 9th edition (New Series)
My Lady Foster's Delight			Playford 11th edition (Country
Dance											Book)
The Nymph							Everyday Dances (Publication of 												dances from
English Dance & song)
Old Harry							Walsh
Old Noll's Jig						Playford 11th edition (Country Dance											Book)
Once I Loved a Maiden Fair *		Playford 1st Edition
Paul's Alley						Fallibroome 1
Paul's Wharf						Playford 1st edition
Pint of Derby						Walsh
Prince George's Birthday (for longways progressive dance) *
									Walsh
Prince William II (Holland as Seen ....)
Put in all							Fallibroome 2
Ratcliff Cross						Fallibroome 5
Ravencroft's Hornpipe				Fallibroome 6
Red Bull (as in The Frolic)
Rockingham Castle					Playford 9th edition (New Series)
Roger De Paseby (as a minuet)		24 country Dances
Rose is White Rose is Red			Playford 1st edition (Country
Dance 											Book)
St. Bride's							Fallibroome 1
St. James's Beauties *				Fallibroome 3
Sea Nymphs							Fallibroome 6
She Would if she could				Playford 1718 (24 country Dances)
Soho Square *						Playford Vol. 2
Soldier's Life						Playford 1st Edition
Tatler								Essex
Tod's Assembly						Again Let's be Merry
Touch and Take						Playford 2nd edition (Country Dance 											Book)
Trip to Islington					Playford 2nd Edition
Union Jigg							Fallibroome 2
Up with the Orange					Holland as seen in the ECD
Vienna								Fallibroome 2
Wallingford House					Again Let's be Merry
Worcester Assembly					Fallibroome 5
Yellow Stockings					Neal
Young Phyllis of Wakefield			Playford?


One that we forgot to put in the original list was Trenchmore Playford
1st edition (New series).


Graham and Wendy

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I've been meaning to write the list for a couple of weeks about this
wonderful dance.

At our end of term social on Dec 6th - which was just at the time of the
major discussion on the dance - I added "Trip to Woodstock" to our
programme.  It was a big hit with all of our dancers.  We danced the
version with the figure of eight down through next second couple.  And, I
loved the feeling of two successive "gates" moving backwards.

martin
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The Lambertville Country Dancers invite you to our first dance of the new
year on the first Friday in January...

Caller: 	Scott Higgs

Musicians:	Susie Lorand (fiddle, viola, recorders) 
		Susie Petrov (piano)

Where:		Titusville United Methodist Church
		Church Rd., just off Route 29

When:		Friday, January 5, 2001
		8-11 p.m.

Questions?  Check our website <http://www.princetonol.com/groups/pcd/lcd/> 
or e-mail me (replies may be slow while I'm on vacation).

Cheers,
	Susie Lorand

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I thought people on this list might find this interesting. From
<www.unesco.org/ngo/cid> A world wide dance directory.

Andy

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> 
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> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:04:12 +0100
> Subject: CID  -  Dance Day preparations  Circular
> 
>         Dance Day preparations
> 
> On Sunday 29th April, 2001, as every year since 1982,
> Dance Day will be celebrated all over the world.
> The CID has prepared the following guidelines as a
> useful checklist for dance directors. This general
> term is meant to include all people institutionally
> involved in the wider field of dance: teachers,
> choreographers, group leaders, journalists,
> researchers, associations,
> suppliers, organizations etc.
> 
> Object
> The main purpose of Dance Day events is to attract the
> attention of the wider public to the art of dance.
> Special emphasis should be given to addressing a "new"
> public, people who do not follow dance events during
> the course of the year.
> 
> Events
> Dance Day events may be special performances,
> open-door courses, public rehearsals, lectures,
> exhibitions, articles in newspapers and magazines,
> dance evenings, radio and TV programs, visits, street
> shows etc.
> 
> Organizers
> Events are primarily organized by dance companies,
> amateur groups, schools, associations and other
> institutions active in dance. Wherever possible,
> it is better for events to be organized jointly with a
> non-dance institution such as a government agency, a
> public school, a municipality, a business enterprise,
> a trade union.
> 
> Content
> You have full freedom to define the content of the
> event. Make sure that you include general information
> on the art of dance, its history, its importance to
> society, its universal character. This can be done in
> a short speech, a note in the program, a text
> distributed to those present. By adding this dimension
> you make the event different from dance activities
> taking place any other day. Read a message from a
> prominent personality, a poem, a passage from a text
> by a famous author.
> 
> Coordination
> In order to achieve maximum success, it is important
> that preparations start early enough. It is imperative
> to inform the press and generally the media about your
> event.
> 
> Notify an organization holding a central position at
> regional or national level, which should publish a
> list of events planned for Dance Day. Entrance to
> events should preferably be free, or by invitation.
> Invite
> persons who do not normally attend dance events.
> 
> Location
> At best, events should take place in "new" places,
> such as streets, shops, factories, villages,
> discotheques, schools, stadiums etc. By setting the
> event in original surroundings you stress the fact
> that this is an event dedicated to the universal
> family of dancers.
> 
> 
> Prof. Alkis Raftis
> President
> 
> 
> International Dance Council  -  CID  -  Conseil
> International de la 
> Danse
> UNESCO,  1 rue Miollis,  FR-75732 Paris, France
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