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Before floods of out of towners pour in for such events as the 2/6 CDSS
event, or the Playford ball (or the Half Moon sword ale, for that
matter), be warned:

the police have in the past year, for the first time in NYC history, begun
aggressively enforcing anti-jaywalking rules and laws against spitting in
public. I worry for the future of country, contra, morris, etc in New
York.

Steve Corrsin

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I just ran into a reference to a Painted Chamber in Westminster in 
1660 that has nothing to do with dance: it was the meeting place of 
the House of Lords. Does anyone know anything about the origin of the 
name for the dance "Painted Chamber"? (I remember doing the dance at 
Pinewoods with Sue Salmons and I think once after that, perhaps in 
NYC. I remember that it was very enjoyable but apparently thought to 
be too complicated to teach often.)

Cheers, Art

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---Stephen D Corrsin <sdc16-AT-
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>
> Before floods of out of towners pour in for such events as the 2/6
CDSS
> event, or the Playford ball (or the Half Moon sword ale, for that
> matter), be warned:
> the police have in the past year, for the first time in NYC history,
begun
> aggressively enforcing anti-jaywalking rules and laws against
spitting in
> public. I worry for the future of country, contra, morris, etc in New
> York.


Yes, but Steve, THIS list is addressed to English dancers. We are not
concerned with such indelicacies.

Barbara (I only cross streets when the music tells me to) Ruth
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Art's posting on The Painted Chamber reminds me of something....A few months
ago I ran into a reference to a triple ring of earthworks, apparently a Roman
ruin, on Hambleton's Hill, in I-forget-what-part-of-England, and it got me to
thinking (always a dangerous biz)....

Does anyone know the origin of the name Hambleton's Round-O?  If so, what is
it? How was it tracked down?

Nilos Nevertheless
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Complex Conjugate

a  dance celebrating the marriage of Charles Roth to Barb McRae, April 25,
1998.

Music: "A Model Married Couple" by Bob Pasquarello
Three-couple longways set, English Country style.
Copyright 1998 by Eric Arnold.


(Real part)
A	1-4	1st couple set up & down, then cast into middle place (2nd
		couple moves up).
	5-8	Reels of 3 across the set, 1st woman passing L shoulder
		with 2nd man and 1st man passing L shoulder with
		3rd woman to start, into...
	9-14	1st couple face 3rd couple, 2nd couple face each other, 6
		changes of a circular hey for 6, passing R shoulders to
		start. (All end proper, order 213.)
	15-16	1st couple turn 2 hands once around.

(Imaginary part)
B	1-4	1st woman cast down around 3rd woman and cross up center
		to her partner's place, while 1st man cross up between the
		2nd couple and go down outside to his partner's place.
	5-8	1st woman with 2nd couple above R hand star once around
		while 1st man with 3rd couple below L hand star once
		around.
	9-12	1st woman continue down outside 3rd man and cross up the
		center to middle place while 1st man cross up and go around
		2nd man and down to middle place.
	13-16	2nd couple at top turn 2 hands once around while 1st and
		3rd couple circle L halfway (13-14) and then turn partners
		2 hands halfway to progressed place (15-16).


Alternate A part (this version was used instead of the original version at
the wedding dance, being somewhat less demanding and more appropriate for
the wedding celebration):

A	1-4	1st couple set R & L and turn single R shoulder.
	5-8	1st couple half gypsy R shoulder, then cast to middle
		place (2nd couple moves up).  
	9-14	1st & 3rd couples face, 2nd couple face partner, and do 6
		changes of circular hey (without hands), starting R
		shoulder.
	15-16	1st couple turn 2 hands halfway.



The title comes from the mathematics of complex numbers.  A complex number
possesses a real part and an imaginary part.  The complex conjugate of a
complex number is another complex number with the same real part but the
negative of the imaginary part.  Thus the real part is symmetric, the
imaginary part antisymmetric.  

The dance mimics this in the symmetry or asymmetry of the figures.  The
first part has reels to represent the real part; the second part has
images of interlocking hearts, each shared by two people, to represent the
imaginary part.  The stars represent not only the roles of the marrying
couple: they are also the symbol frequently used in mathematics to
designate the complex conjugate.

In the physical theory of resonances in linear systems, a resonance may be
described by a pair of complex conjugate numbers.  Two people who love
each other well enough to marry might be thought of as being in resonance,
lending another dimension to this analogy.

The dance as well as the tune (given below in abc notation) reflect to a
certain degree the individual natures of the two principals in this
conjugation.  The first part, representing Charles, a self-employed
software producer with a theatrical side, is a bit hurried, and you may
find that the dance schedules you to do a bit more than you actually have
time for -- in any case, you need to look sharp and be on your toes to
execute the figures without a scramble, particularly in the original
version.  The second part of both dance and tune contrast with a quiet
lyricism and contemplative quality that represents Barb, and generates
images of two interlocking, shared hearts.  Thus both the dance and the
music celebrate a conjugation that is indeed complex!

								Eric
Arnold

	***	***	***	***	***	***	***	***

The tune "A Model Married Couple" in an attempt at abc notation:

T: A Model Married Couple
C: Bob Pasquarello (copyright 1998)
H: Commissioned at 1997 CDSS English and American Week at Buffalo Gap, WV
for the forthcoming marriage of Charles Roth and Barb McRae, which took
place in Milan, MI on April 25, 1998.  The A part, reflecting Charles'
enjoyment of Gilbert & Sullivan, derives from "A Model Major General."
The B part, reflecting Barb's vocation as a Protestant minister, is more
contemplative, hymn-like.
P:3xAB
M:3/4
K:C
P:A
CE|"C"GA GA GA|"C/B"GA GE CE|"C/A"GA GA GA|"C/G"GA GE CE|\
"Dm"FG FG FG|"G"FG FD B,D|"Dm"FG FG FG|"G"FG FD B,D|\
"C"GA GA GA|"C/B"GA GE CE|"C/A"GA GA GA|"C/G"GA GE CE|\
"Dm"FE DC B,C|"G7"D3 F ED|"F"C6-|C4 "C"G2|
P:B
"F"A2 A2 B2|B2 c2 G2|"C"G2 c2 E2|G6|"F"A2 A2 B2|B2 c2 A2|\
"C"G2 c2 E2|"G"D4 CD|"C"E2 G2 G2|"C/B"A2 G2 G2|"F"A2 c2 c2|\
"D/F#"d2 c2 d2|"C/G"e2 c2 A2|"Am"G2 E2 G2|"F"A2 c3 "G"B|"C"c4:|




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In "The Playford Ball", Shimer and Keller give a possible explanation of
the title.


Philippe Callens

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Does anyone know whether there is a "modern" edition available of
Playford's "Apollo's Banquet"?

Philippe Callens

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The EFDSS Web Site http://www.efdss.org will be closing down this coming
Monday, so if you've always meant to look at it please do so rapidly!
The EFDSS administration don't like what I've done and won't tell me what
changes they want made.  The site will eventually reopen under new management.

Thanks to all of you who have made helpful suggestions and criticisms.

Please direct any comments to the Chief Executive:

      Martin Frost
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      2 Regent's Park Road
      LONDON
      NW1 7AY
      UK

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Dear ECDers

Re: Whitby Competitive Folk Dance Festival
       Whitby, North Yorkshire, England
       Friday 19th and Saturday 20th March 1999

I have been asked to bring this event to the notice of dancers everywhere. If
you disapprove please delete this posting and accept my apologies.

WCFDF is an annual event which has run since 1923.  It's run by the local
EFDSS group, and attracts adjudicators of the calibre of Rose, Upton, the
Kinsmans et al (this year it's Alan Davies).  In recent years, and
particularly since the NEC cut the districts adrift, attendances have been
falling to critical levels.  It seems that no-one these days knows the
festivals exists!

So for all you competition-hungry dancers out there, here's yet another
opportunity to come and dance in Whitby. There are categories for most forms
of traditional dance - Country, Morris, Running Set, Longsword, Rapper,  etc,
and the organisers will stick in just about anything you fancy dancing.  All
ages are catered for.  Also there's a song category.

They used to finish with a ceilidh on the Saturday evening - a real dancers'
dance.  Not sure about this year.

Yes, I know that a lot of people are not keen on competition; and I know that
EFDSS' ideas over rules and regs seem odd to some.  But you don't have to take
it too seriously!

Interested? Contact the redoubtable (and venerable) Mrs May Beeforth, 21
Kirkham Close, Whitby, North Yorkshire  YO21 1JR        Tel: 01947 604203

Thanks for taking time to read this,
Ian
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I would like to ask a couple of questions regarding the style of
dancing "Levi Jackson".

Are the setting steps typical ECD or are they step-and-swing?

On the right and lefts figure, what happens on the left hand
turns?  Do the men join right hand with partner behind her back
and back up into place?

Similarly on the ladies chain figure.  Do the men join right hand
with partner behind her back and back up into place?   And do they
maintain this hold during the promenade?

At the end of the promenade, do all couples face in to set (as my
instructions state) or does one face one's partner?  What hold, if
any, do couples retain during this setting step?

Finally, there regional or translatlantic differences in the style
of dancing this dance.

Thanks,

	Martin






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Martin-
	
On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:17:59 -0330 "Martin E. Mulligan"
<mulligan-AT-
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>I would like to ask a couple of questions regarding the style of
>dancing "Levi Jackson".


>>Are the setting steps typical ECD or are they step-and-swing?


The call is "Balance and Swing".

I don't claim to be an expert, but I have always danced the dance with
American styling.
The dance was named for Levi Jackson State Park; I believe it is in
Kentucky.
The dance floor used for dancing had supporting columns  .
The dance was written with the idea that in the all five ladies chain,
the ladies could all swing around the post in the miidle of the set

  
>On the right and lefts figure, what happens on the left hand
>turns?  Do the men join right hand with partner behind her back
>and back up into place?
>
>Similarly on the ladies chain figure.  Do the men join right hand
>with partner behind her back and back up into place?   And do they
>maintain this hold during the promenade?


Both of these are danced as a courtesy turn with the man joining 
the right hand of the woman behind her back.



>At the end of the promenade, do all couples face in to set (as my
>instructions state) or does one face one's partner?  What hold, if
>any, do couples retain during this setting step?


In the States the woman usually keeps her right hand connected to the
man's
after the promenade, and twirls under it to  balance toward, then away
from her partner, then pulling into a swing.    

>Finally, (are)there regional or translatlantic differences in the style
>of dancing this dance.(?)

  Most likely. but this was written for an American dance scene so I
would use American styling


Martha
Martha Davey
25-14 37 ST,
Astoria, NY 11103
(718)278-4389




>Thanks,
>
>	Martin
>
>
>
>
>
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One more intem from Pat Shaw's in Among the Pines...Pinewoods DanceSeries 2

footnote to dance:

"NOTE: ...It should be played pretty fast and should be danced with as much
fun and verve as possible, though never letting it get completely out of
control!"


It is normally played in ragtime,and a very vivaceous dance!
Mike Mudrey
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I made a slight mistake which is corrected below.
After the promenade it is the left hand which remains connected which the
lady twirls under. 

On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:01:05 -0500 MARTHA C DAVEY <marthacd-AT-
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writes:
>Martin-
>	
>On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:17:59 -0330 "Martin E. Mulligan"
><mulligan-AT-
morgan.ucs.mun.ca> writes:
>>I would like to ask a couple of questions regarding the style of
>>dancing "Levi Jackson".
>
>
>>>Are the setting steps typical ECD or are they step-and-swing?
>
>
>The call is "Balance and Swing".
>
>I don't claim to be an expert, but I have always danced the dance 
>with
>American styling.
>The dance was named for Levi Jackson State Park; I believe it is in
>Kentucky.
>The dance floor used for dancing had supporting columns  .
>The dance was written with the idea that in the all five ladies 
>chain,
>the ladies could all swing around the post in the miidle of the set
>
>  
>>On the right and lefts figure, what happens on the left hand
>>turns?  Do the men join right hand with partner behind her back
>>and back up into place?
>>
>>Similarly on the ladies chain figure.  Do the men join right hand
>>with partner behind her back and back up into place?   And do they
>>maintain this hold during the promenade?
>
>
>Both of these are danced as a courtesy turn with the man joining 
>the right hand of the woman behind her back.
>
>
>
>>At the end of the promenade, do all couples face in to set (as my
>>instructions state) or does one face one's partner?  What hold, if
>>any, do couples retain during this setting step?
>
>
>In the States the woman usually keeps her left
 hand connected to the
>man's
>after the promenade, and twirls under it to  balance toward, then 
>away
>from her partner, then pulling into a swing.    
>
>>Finally, (are)there regional or translatlantic differences in the 
>style
>>of dancing this dance.(?)
>
>  Most likely. but this was written for an American dance scene so I
>would use American styling
>
>
>Martha
>Martha Davey
>25-14 37 ST,
>Astoria, NY 11103
>(718)278-4389
>
>
>
>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>	Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Martha
Martha Davey
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Astoria, NY 11103
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Further to Martin's query and Martha's answer.

I had the pleasure of dancing "Levi Jackson" at one of the late Pat Shaw's
workshops at Cecil Sharp House. At this time I cannot recall whether he was
trying it out prior to taking it to the USA or showing it off after he had
returned.

I can remember, however, that as taught at that time you changed to a
regular promenade hold at the end of the "five ladies grand chain" and that
the balance was a regular forward and back balance not a kick across. The
right and left  thrus were done with hands across and courtesy turn (with
gent's hand behind lady's back.

In spite of this you will find almost universally throughout England it is
danced with the couples retaining the "behind the back" hold from the
courtesy turn for the promenade and a kick across balance before the swing.
This is a pity as it detracts from the smooth flow of the original dance and
seems to go "against" rather than "with" the tune.

Incidentally if you want an alternative tune, I've found "Peacock Rag" works
really well.

I hope this helps a little.


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Subject: Levi Jackson


I would like to ask a couple of questions regarding the style of
dancing "Levi Jackson".

Are the setting steps typical ECD or are they step-and-swing?

On the right and lefts figure, what happens on the left hand
turns?  Do the men join right hand with partner behind her back
and back up into place?

Similarly on the ladies chain figure.  Do the men join right hand
with partner behind her back and back up into place?   And do they
maintain this hold during the promenade?

At the end of the promenade, do all couples face in to set (as my
instructions state) or does one face one's partner?  What hold, if
any, do couples retain during this setting step?

Finally, there regional or translatlantic differences in the style
of dancing this dance.

Thanks,

Martin






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Henry,et. al.
	"regular promenade hold" differs by region.
In England and some parts of the U.S. it is hands crossed in front.
In other parts of the US it could be either with the man holding the
woman's right 
in his right behind her back either at her waist (always used for courtsy
turns) or at shoulder height.

Martha
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>I can remember, however, that as taught at that time you changed to a
>regular promenade hold at the end of the "five ladies grand chain" and 
>that
>the balance was a regular forward and back balance not a kick across. 
>The
>right and left  thrus were done with hands across and courtesy turn 
>(with
>gent's hand behind lady's back.
>
>
>
>HENRY L GARFATH
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From John M. Ramsay in St Louis 

In a message dated 2/7/99 9:00:30 AM, Martin E. Mulligan asked the following
questions for which I feel qualified to give and answer.  I am the one who
commissioned Pat Shaw to compose the dance and I was with my troupe in
Newcastle Upon Tyne in 1975 when we first tried it out with Pat analyzing it.

Q. << Are the setting steps typical ECD or are they step-and-swing?>>
My answer:  Step-and swing.

Q. <<On the right and lefts figure, what happens on the left hand
turns?  Do the men join right hand with partner behind her back
and back up into place?>>
My answer:  Yes, it is a normal American courtesy turn, men assisting the
ladies, but a bit more like a promenade than men actually backing up.

Q. <<Similarly on the ladies chain figure.  Do the men join right hand
with partner behind her back and back up into place?   And do they
maintain this hold during the promenade?>>
My answer:  Same as the right and left thru except that the courtesy turn is a
bit curtailed or adjusted as the men move in (especially the active man at the
head of the U) to receive the ladies and then send them on (the first turn)
into the continuation of the 5-ladies chain, of into the promenade.

Q. <<At the end of the promenade, do all couples face in to set (as my
instructions state) or does one face one's partner?  What hold, if
any, do couples retain during this setting step? >>
My answer:  As the promenade ends (last 3-4 counts of 8), the lady should move
forward to face her current partner (left hands may still be joined for adding
stability to her move) so that all ten dancers are in line with the U,
whereupon hands must be released during the balance/setting/step-swing so that
the couple can take the ballroom hold for the buzz step swing.  There is room
for some individuality as to when the changeover in position occurs.


Caveat:  The above answers are merely responses to Martin's inquiry and should
not be used to squelch the lively spirit of the dance, regional differences
(I'll be interested to read about these differences as they are submitted),
nor other adaptations to the dance;  e.g. who hasn't incorporated a 6th
couple?  I have seen sets of 10 couples with two U's placed foot to foot when
a group of dancers is looking for the release of an excessive amount of
spirit.  But, it is nice to know the basics of the dance without which
embellishments become more like millstones which weight the dance down instead
of lifting it up.
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>I can remember, however, that as taught at that time you changed to a
>regular promenade hold at the end of the "five ladies grand chain" and that
>the balance was a regular forward and back balance not a kick across. The
>right and left  thrus were done with hands across and courtesy turn (with
>gent's hand behind lady's back.

In New England the behind-the-back hold is the regular promenade hold.  We
don't use the crossed-hands-in-front or, at least not very often, the
over-the-shoulders(Gae Gordan's).

>
>In spite of this you will find almost universally throughout England it is
>danced with the couples retaining the "behind the back" hold from the
>courtesy turn for the promenade and a kick across balance before the swing.
>This is a pity as it detracts from the smooth flow of the original dance and
>seems to go "against" rather than "with" the tune.

Sometimes we do  a once and half turn as a couple in promenade hold adding
an extra turn to the courtesy turn after we pick the ladies up the second
time before the promenade on to the progressed place.  Then we twirl the
lady out to face for the New England balance and swing.  Sometimes it's
from side to side, but not nohow in a Western Club Square Dance style.
Strictly New England contra style.

I suppose the good southerners in Levi Jackson State Park land would wonder
what happened to their dance?!!!!!!


                            Emily L. Ferguson - Cape Cod, Massachusetts
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Can anyone advise on how, or where to find instructions,  to translate abc
notation into standard musical notation? There are a few codes that have
got me guessing!
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JHMTurner writes, in a message sent 06:02 PM 2/7/99 -0500:
>Can anyone advise on how, or where to find instructions,  to translate abc
>notation into standard musical notation? There are a few codes that have
>got me guessing!
I would suggest that you visit the ABC home page at:
	http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/
There you will find a complete description of the notation and ,in the
software section, links to several programs that can convert ABC into
standard musical notation.

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Onthe subject of promenade holds (re: the Levi Jackson Rag
discussion), at the last NEFFA, Lisa Greenleaf in a session on "safe
dancing" taught the hand on the shoulder style hold as an alternative
on crowded dance floors to the usual New England style of hand at the
waist, since it reduces the chance of clipping someone with that stuck
out elbow.  Ever since then I've preferred the shoulder hold because I
keep seeing those elbows as chicken wings.  (Thanks a lot for that
image, Lisa, if you're reading this).  

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Go to the ABC Homepage  http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/  There is tons of
information there. If your using a Macintosh I find the program 'Barfly' does a
nifty job of translating Abc notation to standard musical naotation and playing
it back.

Good luck,
Laurie Andres

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> Can anyone advise on how, or where to find instructions,  to translate abc
> notation into standard musical notation? There are a few codes that have
> got me guessing!

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Thanks for pointing out the ambiguity in my previous note. Delete "regular" and insert "MWSD" if it helps!
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As I cannot remember the date I danced the dance with Pat I can only presume
from John Berni's account that he danced it with him before I did. However
as Pat was in the habit of trying out "commissioned" work with us  in London
before presenting it to the appropriate person/club this is not a foregone
conclusion. What this shows is merely that differences in the way this dance
has been danced have existed practically from the word "go"!

"In necessariis unitas; in dubiis libertas; in omnibus caritas".

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From John M. Ramsay in St Louis

In a message dated 2/7/99 9:00:30 AM, Martin E. Mulligan asked the following
questions for which I feel qualified to give and answer.  I am the one who
commissioned Pat Shaw to compose the dance and I was with my troupe in
Newcastle Upon Tyne in 1975 when we first tried it out with Pat analyzing
it.

Q. << Are the setting steps typical ECD or are they step-and-swing?>>
My answer:  Step-and swing.

Q. <<On the right and lefts figure, what happens on the left hand
turns?  Do the men join right hand with partner behind her back
and back up into place?>>
My answer:  Yes, it is a normal American courtesy turn, men assisting the
ladies, but a bit more like a promenade than men actually backing up.

Q. <<Similarly on the ladies chain figure.  Do the men join right hand
with partner behind her back and back up into place?   And do they
maintain this hold during the promenade?>>
My answer:  Same as the right and left thru except that the courtesy turn is
a
bit curtailed or adjusted as the men move in (especially the active man at
the
head of the U) to receive the ladies and then send them on (the first turn)
into the continuation of the 5-ladies chain, of into the promenade.

Q. <<At the end of the promenade, do all couples face in to set (as my
instructions state) or does one face one's partner?  What hold, if
any, do couples retain during this setting step? >>
My answer:  As the promenade ends (last 3-4 counts of 8), the lady should
move
forward to face her current partner (left hands may still be joined for
adding
stability to her move) so that all ten dancers are in line with the U,
whereupon hands must be released during the balance/setting/step-swing so
that
the couple can take the ballroom hold for the buzz step swing.  There is
room
for some individuality as to when the changeover in position occurs.


Caveat:  The above answers are merely responses to Martin's inquiry and
should
not be used to squelch the lively spirit of the dance, regional differences
(I'll be interested to read about these differences as they are submitted),
nor other adaptations to the dance;  e.g. who hasn't incorporated a 6th
couple?  I have seen sets of 10 couples with two U's placed foot to foot
when
a group of dancers is looking for the release of an excessive amount of
spirit.  But, it is nice to know the basics of the dance without which
embellishments become more like millstones which weight the dance down
instead
of lifting it up.


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Yes, Levi Jackson State Park is in Kentucky; there's also a Levi Jackson
Wilderness Road just south of KY 80.  It is southeast of London (I-75)
in the southern central/southeast part of the state.  We made a special
pilgrimage to the State Park because of the dance.

The Lloyd Shaw Foundation (Sales Division, PO Box 11, Macks Creek MO
65786), for those who want to find out what the tempo is like, has a
recording (45 rpm) of same.

We've always enjoyed dancing or calling (my wife, Yona) it.

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Always work with a crowded floor - it is more fun!
"Hands in front" (MWSD) promenade works well - and allows the dancers to
respond to the call "backtrack" when/if required. CEJ/Sweetheart/Vars (what
you call "Gay Gordons") hold does not.

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Subject: Promenade preferences


Onthe subject of promenade holds (re: the Levi Jackson Rag
discussion), at the last NEFFA, Lisa Greenleaf in a session on "safe
dancing" taught the hand on the shoulder style hold as an alternative
on crowded dance floors to the usual New England style of hand at the
waist, since it reduces the chance of clipping someone with that stuck
out elbow.  Ever since then I've preferred the shoulder hold because I
keep seeing those elbows as chicken wings.  (Thanks a lot for that
image, Lisa, if you're reading this).

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On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, MARTHA C DAVEY wrote:

> The dance was named for Levi Jackson State Park; I believe it is in
> Kentucky.
> The dance floor used for dancing had supporting columns  .
> The dance was written with the idea that in the all five ladies chain,
> the ladies could all swing around the post in the miidle of the set

I've always found doing this dance very frustrating, because it seemed
that no matter how good the dancers were there never seemed to be enough
time to do the 5-hand ladies chain and end up where you were supposed to
be without rushing frantically. NOW I understand why - none of the spaces
where I've done the dance had posts to swing around!

Dawn Culbertson
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Re:  Levi Jackson Rag - Music

The best recording, in my opinion, for Levi Jackson Rag is the one featuring
Raymod McLain on Fiddle with other members of the (Now, alas, disbanded) 
McLain Family Band.  I think it is on Dances from Appalachia #2 (with the
yellow colored album/CD cover.  The three pickups are a bit brief, but the
ragtime style is incredibly well done.

Forbes/OCM&G muso
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> Yes, Levi Jackson State Park is in Kentucky; there's also a Levi
> Jackson Wilderness Road just south of KY 80.  It is southeast of
> London (I-75) in the southern central/southeast part of the state. 
> We made a special pilgrimage to the State Park because of the dance.

So for whom is the park named? Could it be for the Yale football 
player of around 1950? Somehow, I doubt it.

Cheers, Art

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Hi John,
re Eric's dance
 have only walked it through at home on my todd,certainly looks a good dance
though
- can't wait to try it out-- in a way it's a shame Diana's calling tomorrow
night.
PATIENCE BARRY.
 Wild Thyme's recording of Dunant's Waltz track 15 on the Dutch Crossing cd
seemed to fit ok.
The recorded music admittedly is played 3 x AABB where as the prescibed tune
on the ECD file appears to be 3 x AB.
The pages appear to be an excellent link , thanks for making the ABC enquiry
, the relevant pages are now on file.

 Bye for now

Barry

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Can anyone advise on how, or where to find instructions,  to translate abc
notation into standard musical notation? There are a few codes that have
got me guessing!


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Levi Jackson was the first judge in Laurel County, KY.
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Dawn Culbertson said
>I've always found doing this dance very frustrating, because it seemed
>that no matter how good the dancers were there never seemed to be
>enough
>time to do the 5-hand ladies chain and end up where you were
>supposed to
>be without rushing frantically. NOW I understand why - none of the
>spaces
>where I've done the dance had posts to swing around!

So I suppose the thing to do is rent some for an event where LJR is to be
danced?  Oh dear, this *is* getting complicated....

Nilos Nevertheless
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It's frustrating, but I think that's mostly because  the men wait for the
ladies to get to them and then you see this little light bulb go off and it
says "oh.  Is this the one I'm supposed to turn?"

Last Friday I called it and just prompted the ladies to get into the star,
just before the phrase, and the four sets did quite well, if I say so
myself ; -)

                            Emily L. Ferguson - Cape Cod, Massachusetts
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                               and the other that heat comes from the furnace.
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I know the members of this list are tolerant of questions/issues not quite "on topic", so am posting here a request from a Scottish friend. He's been working for some time on children's songs (though he sings a fine ballad as well), and has asked me if I know an American kids' song similar to this Scottish one:

(sung to the tune of "She'll Be Comin' Round the Mountain")

Ye canny shove yer grannie aff a bus
Ye canna shove yer grannie aff a bus
Ye canna shove yer grannie
'Cause she's yer mammy's mammy
Ye canna shove yer grannie aff a bus.

Ye can shove yer other grannie aff a bus
Ye can shove yer other grannie aff a bus
Ye can shove yer other grannie
'Cause she's just yer daddy's mammy
Ye can shove yer other grannie aff a bus.

Ewan says his recollection is that the American version was something about going round to see grannie after school. He asks for any verses/fragments, etc. and provenance/age.

Though I know the Opie's fine children's song stuff from England, I know no similar sources for American stuff. Help out there? Michael Cooney, others?

I'm afraid my only good children's song is a wonderful pared-down version of "Little Sir William" or "The Jew's Daughter", learned from Serrafyn many years ago. I never heard him give a printed source, but understood it was from New York in the early 1900s.

Mary Stafford
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I was mortified to find my note, intended for the Ballad List, popping up here. Apologies for using up bandwidth- of course if anyone out there in dance-land has an answer, it would be appreciated!

Mary Stafford
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  [snip]...

It's frustrating, but I think that's mostly because the men wait for the 
ladies to get to them and then you see this little light bulb go off and it 
says "oh.  Is this the one I'm supposed to turn?"

   **********************************************************
  I find the number of such light bulbs to be at least equalled by the

  number of relieved looks on the faces of women who have slowed down

  because they don't know which man to go to, and who are saved from their

  confusion by an alert man reaching out to them for the courtesy turn.

  Marty Fager, who danced Levi Jackson as recently as last Saturday night.
   
     
                            
                            
                            
                            
                            
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In message <199902082309.SAA24492-AT-
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>     
>  [snip]...
>
>It's frustrating, but I think that's mostly because the men wait for the 
>ladies to get to them and then you see this little light bulb go off and it 
>says "oh.  Is this the one I'm supposed to turn?"
>

We have a saying over here for the 5-ladies star to help the men decide
which lady to turn

it's "push one, miss one, catch one"

(I don't remember having any trouble with the timing of the star)

-- 
Margaret Whaley
Oxfordshire
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On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 FORBES-AT-
GEORGE.BAKERU.EDU wrote:
> The best recording, in my opinion, for Levi Jackson Rag is the one
> featuring Raymod McLain on Fiddle with other members of the (Now,
> alas, disbanded)  McLain Family Band.  I think it is on Dances from
> Appalachia #2 (with the yellow colored album/CD cover.  The three
> pickups are a bit brief, but the ragtime style is incredibly well
> done.

I haven't heard that one, but I'm quite fond of the recording on Yankee
Ingenuity's "Heatin' Up the Hall".  I'm no ragtime connoisseur, but I
think it's just the right sound for this piece.  They also trade the lead
very well, so each of the five times through has a very different sound,
which makes it fun to listen to.

--will


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Message text written by Nilos Nevertheless:
>o I suppose the thing to do is rent some for an event where LJR is to be
danced?  Oh dear, this *is* getting complicated....

Better yet,  just invite Nilos to stand in the middle of the set!.  Ribbons
and bells on would be nice.  Schedule your LJR's to coincide with the
route.she's "en."

Gene Murrow
EC Dancer, Caller, Musician and big fan of the denizens of the Pinewoods
culinary department

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Sorry, I don't have an answer to your querry, but I *loved* the song. 
Glad you mistakenly sent it to the ECD list.

Mike Franch
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Gene Murrow, man of many hats, said
>
Better yet,  just invite Nilos to stand in the middle of the set!.  Ribbons
>
and bells on would be nice.  Schedule your LJR's to coincide with the
>
route.she's "en."

Heh.  I knew I was meant to be an itinerant *something*.   

But, Gene, I've asked my Mother and she says she didn't raise me to be a Space
Modulator.

Nilos Nevertheless
Hither, Thither, and Yon
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There is a version on Digital Tradition
http://www.mudcat.org/!!-song99.cfm?stuff=Oct98+D+12499900

(or www.mudcat.org, click on search database enter grannie/granny and search)

YE CANNA SHOVE YER GRANNIE 

Oh ye cannae shove yer grannie aff the bus, 
Oh ye cannae shove yer grannie aff the bus, 
Ye cannae shove yer grannie 
For she's yer mammie's mammie, 
Ye canna shove yer grannie aff the bus. 

Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus. 
Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus. 
Ye can shove yer ither Granny 
'Cos she's yer Faither's Mammy 
Ye can shove yer ither Granny aff a bus. 

Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie aff a bus. 
Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie affa bus. 
Uncle Wullie's like yer Faither 
A harum-scarum blether, 
Ye can shove yer Uncle Wullie aff a bus. 

Ye can shove yer Auntie Maggie aff a bus. 
Ye can shove Auntie Maggie aff a bus. 
Auntie Meg's yer Faither's sister, 
She's naethin' but a twister, 
Ye can shove yer Auntie Maggie aff a bus. 

But ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus. 
O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus. 
O ye canna shove yer Granny, 
'Cos she's yer Mammy's Mammy, 
O ye canna shove yer Granny aff a bus. 
________________________________________________________ 

(1) Opies Lore (1959), 26, from Edinburgh. 
(2) Carlton Folk Songs (n.d.), 16, with music [= "She'll 
be coming round the mountain"]. First 2 stanzas coll. 
by the ed. in Glasgow, 1956, followed by 

Singing I will if you will, so will I; 
Singing I will if you will, so will I; 
Singing I will if you will, 
I will if you will, 
I will if you will, so will I. 

Ritchie Singing Street (1964), 43, has (2), st. 1-2, noting 
that lines 1-2 were often lengthened by the phrase "Worse 
luck!" 

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On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Emily L. Ferguson wrote:

> It's frustrating, but I think that's mostly because  the men wait for the
                                       ^^^^^^
> ladies to get to them and then you see this little light bulb go off and it
> says "oh.  Is this the one I'm supposed to turn?"

A little bit of male-bashing here, perhaps?  Maybe if the ladies would aim
themselves at the right man in the first place, they'd find one who wasn't
quite so surprised . . . (;->) 

> 
> Last Friday I called it and just prompted the ladies to get into the star,
> just before the phrase, and the four sets did quite well, if I say so
> myself ; -)

Ahh, yes...  getting them _into_ the star in the first place just might be
the clue!

Eric Arnold
 Ann Arbor

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John Ramsay in St Louis (talking about Levi Jackson Rag):

In a message dated 2/8/99 9:01:15 AM, Henry Garfath
<henry-AT-
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<< differences in the way this dance
has been danced have existed practically from the word "go" >>

But Henry, what differences do you remember, compared to what I described?
How interesting to have a response from you, but tell us more!  This internet
is a fascinating new tool for humanity.

We would have danced Levi Jackson Rag with Pat Shaw in Edinburgh where he
hosted us just after Folk Moot, summer of 1975.  He had not yet made up his
single page printed description which was later widley circulated.  He well
could have tried out the dance in London before he tried it out on us.  I know
that he had questions about some parts of the dance when we danced it, but was
satisfied with what he had worked out.  

We had to learn how to teach the dance; it was so different with its U
formation, progression, 5-ladies chain, and "meanwhiles."  The music was also
a stumbling block to the use of the dance for the first few years; it was a
challenge for musicians, but one which they relished because it is such
exciting music.  In the music, Pat incorporated a bit of Appalachian fiddle
scrubbing as per Lewis Lamb and some feeling of Bluegrass as per the McLain
Family Band, all of whom had been at Levi Jackson the last weekend in
September in 1974 when Pat was there.  

He was a very creative and clever man!
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In a recent post, people's favorite simple-but-good dances were discussed.
I recently came across an article by Genny Shimer in an old CDS(S) news on
making a program for mixed levels of experience, and she addressed this
issue, and gave a list of dances.  One dance on the list that was
mentioned more than once was "Spanish Jigg".  I do not have the
instructions for this dance -- I would be pleased if somone out there who
knows this dance or has the instructions would post them.

Also I'm looking for the instructions for a playford dance with a title
something like "St. Valentine's".  

Thanks!

Eric Arnold
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Interesting thread here! Judge Levi Jackson, of Laurel County, KY, donated
the land for his namesake state park (just outside London, KY)  some years
ago. The park not only contains part of the Wilderness Road, but also
McHargue's Mill, a watermill which still produces water-ground meal in the
summers and sits amongst a large collection of millstones, a pioneer
graveyard where would-be settlers killed in an Indian raid along the
Wilderness Road lie buried,  a  collection of restored historic log cabins,
schools, barns, churches, etc., that were in danger of demolition and moved
there from elsewhere in Laurel County.. The land itself is mostly hilly and
wooded, and visitors can walk along part of the Wilderness Road, a wide
path through the woods. Quite a place. The park also contains the usual
campgrounds, picnic areas, playgrounds, a stable, and a large outdoor pool.
Overnight accommodations are extremely basic, and located around the group
clubhouse

The original, "posted" group clubhouse lodge at the park burned a few years
ago, and fortunately, was re-built with a nice wooden floor (thanks to many
of you addressing this issue with the state parks department). Alas, the
posts were omitted in the phoenix-like  new lodge - so we now dance with
"ghost posts". Still a great dance; still a neat place.

BTW, hesitation on the ladies' star figure is not a good idea, as several
of you have indicated! Eye contact with the approaching lady/gentleman is
key to successful timing of the assisted turn. Callers might want to stress
this in the walk-through.

The Levi Jackson Rag is certainly a Kentucky favorite - there used to be a
mad rush for the two "post" sets at the old Levi Jackson lodge, when the
namesake dance was announced during the annual adult dance weekend there
(usually held the last weekend in September, which coincides with the
London, KY Chicken Festival, featuring Col. Sanders look-alike contests, Mr
and Miss Chicken-leg contests, parades, the world's largest skillet,
rooster-crowing contests....something for everyone!{VBG}).

Hope some of you will join us next fall for the next Levi Jackson dance
weekend...

Susan Booker
Lexington, KY
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At 9:35 AM -0500 2/9/99, Eric Arnold wrote:
>On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Emily L. Ferguson wrote:
>
>> It's frustrating, but I think that's mostly because  the men wait for the
>                                       ^^^^^^
>> ladies to get to them and then you see this little light bulb go off and it
>> says "oh.  Is this the one I'm supposed to turn?"
>
>A little bit of male-bashing here, perhaps?  Maybe if the ladies would aim
>themselves at the right man in the first place, they'd find one who wasn't
>quite so surprised . . . (;->)

No, not at all.  In fact I've seen large numbers of surprised men when the
ladies do come right to the correct one.

All English dancing is a self reliant thing.  Each person has to take
responsibility for him or herself.  Despite our terminology - "lead" up a
double etc. - you can't survive if you don't think for yourself.

>
>>
>> Last Friday I called it and just prompted the ladies to get into the star,
>> just before the phrase, and the four sets did quite well, if I say so
>> myself ; -)
>
>Ahh, yes...  getting them _into_ the star in the first place just might be
>the clue!

Always been that way, since the first time I did it in 1974 with Pat Shaw
at Pinewoods.

>
>There are two spiritual dangers in owning a farm.  One is that you will
>expect it to be productive and supply you bountifully without your having
>put in an enormous amount of work.  The other is that you don't leave it
>as a farm when you are done with it.

Both very true.  True about all gardens.  Possibly about all things.  As
soon as you cease keeping your hand on them they start to become something
else.

Sadly, sometimes that's a barren field.


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><< differences in the way this dance
>has been danced have existed practically from the word "go" >>
>
>But Henry, what differences do you remember, compared to what I described?
>How interesting to have a response from you, but tell us more!

Yes, yes!  Tell us more!

>
>We would have danced Levi Jackson Rag with Pat Shaw in Edinburgh where he
>hosted us just after Folk Moot, summer of 1975.  He had not yet made up his
>single page printed description which was later widely circulated.  He well
>could have tried out the dance in London before he tried it out on us.  I know
>that he had questions about some parts of the dance when we danced it, but was
>satisfied with what he had worked out.

>
>We had to learn how to teach the dance; it was so different with its U
>formation, progression, 5-ladies chain, and "meanwhiles."  The music was also
>a stumbling block to the use of the dance for the first few years; it was a
>challenge for musicians, but one which they relished because it is such
>exciting music.

This perspective on the dance is very interesting to me.  As a New England
style dancer, one who was dancing a lot of NE contras and squares with Tony
Parkes and Ted Sannella at the time. the concept of waiting seemed
perfectly normal.  Of course, in ECD, as we do it here in the US, one
expects to take pleasure in watching other people do their part while
waiting for one's own turn.

This has all changed in New England traditional dance since then.  The
advent of the relentless crossed over contra and the near demise of capable
improvising square dance callers here has put an end to learning to watch
and honor the dancing couple.

Now I'm not much up on Southern US dancing, but I believe the core social
form was a sicil formation, in which everyone was moving all the time.  Am
I right about that?

If so, possibly that would account for why LJR was a challenge for Southern
dancers and callers to get a hold of?

As far as the whole music part goes, the renditions of the music which I've
experienced over the years have nearly all been off my idea of the mark,
and every recording I've heard is stale by the end of it, to me.  Possibly
I'd still like some of the early tapes I made at camp in which Claudio, who
seemed to have more of a grasp of the ragtime syncopation concept of the
music (as well, of course, as of the way it all fits to the dance), was
able to inject some freedom into the music making.  Improvisation is
absolutely key here, but a real looseness and raggy feeling is also
essential to me.
>
>He was a very creative and clever man!

Absolutely.  And he liberated the most wondrous creativity in my ECD
community and I know in others'.  Sharon?

Where would we be without Fried?  Without Gary Roodman?  Without Claudio
Buchwald?

And what would they be doing without Patrick Shuldham-Shaw?

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At 10:37 AM -0500 2/9/99, Eric Arnold wrote:
>In a recent post, people's favorite simple-but-good dances were discussed.
>I recently came across an article by Genny Shimer in an old CDS(S) news on
>making a program for mixed levels of experience, and she addressed this
>issue, and gave a list of dances.  One dance on the list that was
>mentioned more than once was "Spanish Jigg".

duple

1s set and cast, 2s move up
2s set and cast, 1s move up

1st crnrs 2-hnd trn
2nd crnrs ditto

1s down middle and back(skiipping) and cast up
1s skip half fig 8 up through twos.

It's in New Series, page 32

tune drives it, none other will do!

>I do not have the
>instructions for this dance -- I would be pleased if somone out there who
>knows this dance or has the instructions would post them.
>
>Also I'm looking for the instructions for a playford dance with a title
>something like "St. Valentine's".

I've got a Valentine's Day?  It's in Choice Morsels.

We enjoyed doing it the other night, too.


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Wow!  Wonderful info.  Thanks so much!

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On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Emily L. Ferguson wrote:

(regarding Spanish Jigg)

> It's in New Series, page 32

Thanks, Emily.  Unfortunately, "New Series" is not in my collection, and I
don't recall seeing it for sale recently.  Does anyone know if it is still
in print?  It seems to have a number of dances that many of the folks who
started long before I did are familiar with.  

> I've got a Valentine's Day?  It's in Choice Morsels.

Same problem, although this one was published just before I started.  It
_sure_ would be great if it were re-issued (Fried, are you listening?).

Eric


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Hi Eric,

Instructions for Spanish Jigg can be found at our ball website:

 http://.scar.rad.washington.edu/ball99

Click on Dance Instructions.

Spanish Jigg is easy, lively and fun, so its nice to add to your repertory.
I called it at our ball this year, and would like to pass on the following
additional cautions:

1)  The tune is ABCD  with half of each of the four parts sounding the
same, and half a little different, so its very repetitive.   When I called
it at our ball this year,  I had to promise the band I would only call a
few rounds-- they didn't like the tune.

2)  It is one of those dances where the two's stand around for half the
dance while the ones do stuff, so its a dance you'd normally want to call
only when you can be sure everyone will get to be active ( short lines)  or
sandwiched between two equal-opportunity dances, or late in the evening,
when people's brains are fried, their bones tired, and they are happy to
take a break and let the ones do half the dance without them.

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Susan B Booker wrote:
> Hope some of you will join us next fall for the next Levi Jackson dance
> weekend...

	Will you give us advance notice of the date?


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At 12:16 PM -0500 2/9/99, Eric Arnold wrote:
>On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Emily L. Ferguson wrote:
>
>(regarding Spanish Jigg)
>
>> It's in New Series, page 32
>
>Thanks, Emily.  Unfortunately, "New Series" is not in my collection, and I
>don't recall seeing it for sale recently.  Does anyone know if it is still
>in print?  It seems to have a number of dances that many of the folks who
>started long before I did are familiar with.
>
>> I've got a Valentine's Day?  It's in Choice Morsels.
>
>Same problem, although this one was published just before I started.  It
>_sure_ would be great if it were re-issued (Fried, are you listening?).
>
>Eric


Valentine's day goes

duple

1s lead up the set and back, while 2s lead down the set & back
Men lead out the set and back while Ladies lead out their side and back

1 crnrs cross, 2 crnrs cross
all fall bk on the line come fwd and pass through

orig 1 crnrs meet in mid and turn back on each other, 2nd crnrs the same
all clap and dance out to place and circle all the way.

The tune for Spanish Jigg is in Barned '95.  The tune for Valentine's day
may be too.  It's downstairs, so I'm not sure.

Have fun.

The blue covered versin of New Series might still be in print.  Chech, with
CDSS

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The dance Spanish Jigg is from DM Vol 1 1721. The modern!! instructions from the
Country Dance Book New Series No. 1.

Longways for as many as will

A1 1-4 1st cpl. set & cast into 2nd place, 2nd cpl. move up.

A2 1-4	2nd cpl. repeat

B1 1-4	1M turn 2W

B2 1-4	2M turn 1W

C1 & C2 	1st cpl. take inside hands lead down rhe middle, change hands and lead 		back & cast off.

D1 & D2	1st cpl figure 8 up through the 2nd cpl.

I have a vague recollection that there is a recording with this dance on but it escapes me for the moment.
Graham
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   >I recently came across an article by Genny Shimer in an old CDS(S) news on
   >making a program for mixed levels of experience, and she addressed this
   >issue, and gave a list of dances.  One dance on the list that was
   >mentioned more than once was "Spanish Jigg".  I do not have the
   >instructions for this dance -- I would be pleased if somone out there who
   >knows this dance or has the instructions would post them.
   >
   >Also I'm looking for the instructions for a playford dance with a title
   >something like "St. Valentine's".  
   >
   >Thanks!
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I think I beat to a copy of New Series last summer at Pinewoods.

Graham

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   >On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Emily L. Ferguson wrote:
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   >(regarding Spanish Jigg)
   >
   >> It's in New Series, page 32
   >
   >Thanks, Emily.  Unfortunately, "New Series" is not in my collection, and I
   >don't recall seeing it for sale recently.  Does anyone know if it is still
   >in print?  It seems to have a number of dances that many of the folks who
   >started long before I did are familiar with.  
   >
   >> I've got a Valentine's Day?  It's in Choice Morsels.
   >
   >Same problem, although this one was published just before I started.  It
   >_sure_ would be great if it were re-issued (Fried, are you listening?).
   >
   >Eric
   >
   >
   >

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Valentine's Day and St. Valentine's Day are different dances.  

Beyond recognizing the name, I'm not familiar with St. Valentine's 
Day, but "What Was That Dance" says it's a Sicilian circle and was 
published in "Just a Selection" by John Meechan.  I haven't a clue 
where to find it though.

Wasn't there also a Valentine's Day Massacre?   

> Also I'm looking for the instructions for a playford dance with a title
> something like "St. Valentine's".  
> 


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At 10:56 PM 2/9/99 +0000, Rich Galloway wrote:

>Wasn't there also a Valentine's Day Massacre?   

Yes, by Colin [Dances with a Difference, v.3].
Cheers,
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>I seem to remember seeing descriptions like this somewhere - perhaps with
>another dance, perhaps with this one - but how does Fried (or whoever
>interpreted it) deal with the issue that this would seem to promote
>collisions?

You just spread the set down the room and people figure out how to adjust.

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>Wasn't there also a Valentine's Day Massacre?  

Yes, but it's not got a very catchy tune....
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Valentine's Day was researched by Pat Shaw and its description was
included with one of the Kenton Ramblers albums (early 1980s).

Since Marjorie and Nicolas are working on a volume of dances all
researched by Pat, it should become available again in the near future.

Valentine's Day is a fine dance!


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"Valentine's Day is a fine dance!"

If you are contemplating Valentines Day, you may wish to look at Maid in the
Moon a three couple circle (Playford's Dancing Master 1670-1690).  You will
discover that C# et al in republishing Maid in the Moon replaced the
original tune (which is the same as Valentines Day) with another of a
different length, thus necessitating a change in the dance.  Sensibilities
at the time of publication (presumably) also required elimination of the
chief characteristic of Maid in the Moon, namely that you kiss not only your
own partner but also the other dancers' partners!  Kissing and Valentines
Day seem a natural partnership.

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According to my notes "Spanish Jigg" appears in 9th edition (1695). I'm sure
I've seen a modern transcription somewhere, but I can't find it.
"Valentines Day" uses the same tune as "Maid in the Moon". CJS  changed both
dance and tune when he published the latter because he wanted a dance to set
to the tune of "All in the garden green". The original (I think) is in 4th
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Playford" which I published in 1990 but which is now out of print.
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In a recent post, people's favorite simple-but-good dances were discussed.
I recently came across an article by Genny Shimer in an old CDS(S) news on
making a program for mixed levels of experience, and she addressed this
issue, and gave a list of dances.  One dance on the list that was
mentioned more than once was "Spanish Jigg".  I do not have the
instructions for this dance -- I would be pleased if somone out there who
knows this dance or has the instructions would post them.

Also I'm looking for the instructions for a playford dance with a title
something like "St. Valentine's".

Thanks!

Eric Arnold
Ann Arbor



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The Levi Jackson dance weekend is sponsored by the adult folk dance group
in Berea, KY, with whom I frequently dance, although I'm not a member.
Usually this event is held during the last weekend in September, and
advance registration is a good idea, since accommodations are somewhat
limited (there are motels in town [London, KY], but the great chicken
festival coincides with the date, so they're also in demand). Good meals
from Saturday breakfast through Sunday breakfast are available at the
clubhouse if paid in advance. The cabins near the clubhouse are quite
Spartan - garage-like, with electricity, but no heat or insulation (and it
can be chilly in the Appalachian foothills in late September); lots of bunk
beds with bare mattresses, but no springs. Some folks bring tents and pitch
them nearby. The camp area has decent shower facilities. This weekend is
planned for adults, although tiny babies and older teens often attend. It
is possible to attend selected sessions rather than the entire weekend,
which begins with a  Friday night dance, continues through morning and
afternoon sessions on Saturday, and culminates with a grand dance on
Saturday evening, following a festive dinner. English, Appalachian, contra,
square, and Danish dances are all included. The LJR is usually danced on
both Friday and Saturday nights. In past years, musicians have included the
Berea Cast-Offs, plus other area musicians in addition to those from
Knoxville, TN. Attendance can run up to about 125, I think...

Any Bereans out there who can provide more info. or correct me on anything?

Susan in Lexington
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I'd like to thank everyone for all the info on Levi Jackson's Rag.

John Berni referred tp Pat Shaw's "single page printed description
which was later widely circulated".  This is what I probably have
by way of directions for the dance.  When I started to teach the
dance from this sheet, the instructions clearly did not remind me
of the way I danced it during Scottish Week at Mendocino last year.

In particular, the instructions for the last 6 bars seem
completely at odds with the way the dance is actually danced.   My
sheet says simply:

27-28  All set facing in towards the middle of the set

29-32  All turn Right Hand.

I do not have "Among the Pines...Pinewoods DanceSeries 2"  Are
those directions any different?

Anyway, thanks for all the very interesting background information.

Martin



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It is also in Millar, Country Dances of Colonial America.

Philippe Callens wrote:
> 
> Valentine's Day was researched by Pat Shaw and its description was
> included with one of the Kenton Ramblers albums (early 1980s).
> 
> Since Marjorie and Nicolas are working on a volume of dances all
> researched by Pat, it should become available again in the near future.
> 
> Valentine's Day is a fine dance!
> 
> Philippe Callens
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The following note didn't find it's destination originally, and now I
think it may be of interest to others on the list, so I'm sending it
this way.  They (SCDers) may not think much of how we dance, but they
seem to respect "our" scholarship.

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Markham [mailto:hmarkham-AT-
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Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 2:47 PM
To: galloway-AT-
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Subject: Sir Roger de Coverley


Hi Rich,

Perhaps you've already heard, but if not, I thought you'd be interested
to
know that your definitive post to the ECD list on Sir Roger de Coverley
last
year was forwarded a couple of days ago to the Scottish list,
strathspey-AT-
tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de, by Priscilla Burrage.  There
had
been a day or two of fragementary exchanges about Virginia Reel and Sir
Roger, (which I didn't read), and Priscilla's post seems to have quelled
it.

Howard
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help
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Re:  Millar

   I find I must use Millar's reconstructions with GREAT caution.

Forbes
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Michael Barraclough wrote:

>>>Sensibilities
at the time of publication (presumably) also required elimination of the
chief characteristic of Maid in the Moon, namely that you kiss not only
your
own partner but also the other dancers' partners!  Kissing and Valentines
Day seem a natural partnership.<<<

indeed, unless one finds oneself in the same dance line as the person with
whom one very recently broke off one's very close relationship!  

Then, even doing a right-hand turn with that particular corner can be
painful, both to the participants and to the observers.  The prospect of
kissing, or having to avoid kissing, would seem beyond the pale!

(For those few of you who know Wayne and me, I hasten to add that I come by
this information only by observation and empathy! We are still quite
happily married ...since 1965, long before we discovered dancing. And I'm
quite content to remain in the observer category, believe me!)

In all seriousness, I know at least one caller who deliberately ignores
Valentine's Day and who has observed that there can be a drop in attendance
if the loaded holiday is too close to a dance...wonder what will happen
this coming weekend?!?

wishing all of you lasting love and a Happy Valentine's Day,
Joyce Crouch



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Howard A. Markham wrote:
> 
> help


Now *THAT* is a cliff-hanger...

Mary Jones
Amherst, MA
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Nor a very pleasant title!  (Sorry, Colin.)

> >Wasn't there also a Valentine's Day Massacre?  
> 
> Yes, but it's not got a very catchy tune....
> 


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Re the following, *I* fondly remember this wild and woolly dance, 
the lovely, graceful Valentine's Day first half instantly degenerating
into the chaotic Massacre of the second half, then alternating 
back and forth between the two.  I do love the beautiful dances 
that Colin is currently turning out, one after another, but it's fun to
also revisit his OLDER, wonderfully complicated inventions.  


Nor a very pleasant title!  (Sorry, Colin.)

> >Wasn't there also a Valentine's Day Massacre?  
> 
> Yes, but it's not got a very catchy tune....
> 

++++++Sol "Roundman"  Weber --- "So many rounds, so little time"
++++++25-14  37th St, Astoria, NY 11103; 718-278-4389 (after 11am)
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+++++Urgent message? If no immediate response, please phone.
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Okay, so

>Nor a very pleasant title!  (Sorry, Colin.)

>> >Wasn't there also a Valentine's Day Massacre?  
>> 
>> Yes, but it's not got a very catchy tune....
>> 

Okay, in defense of Colin I was thinking not of his dance, when I made that
crack about the tune, but of the *original* massacre. Which, I believe, goes
something like:  Rat-a-tat-tat-tat  Thud.  Gurgle.  Splat.

Oh, nevermind!


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ECDers --

A colleague in the Bay Area English Regency Society is looking for music
and notation of two dances mentioned in Christopher Hibbert's recent 
biography of Lord Nelson.

Hibbert says they were created to honor Nelson's victory in the Battle of the
Nile, 1798, and called "The Vanguard" and "Breaking of the Line." 

Has anyone ever encountered descriptions of these dances?  Any idea where 
to look?  (The tunes don't seem to appear under those names in on-line music
archives.)

[If I were replying to this post instead of making it, I'd feel compelled
to warn the poster that even if we found the dances, they might well either
be  no good or basically indistinguishable from dances we already know.
(And odds are _really_ good, in 1798, that they're something on the order
of rh*, lh*, 1s down the middle and back and cast off, four changes of
R&L.)  We already know that, but we'd like to see the dances anyway.  If
the dances are no good but the tunes are good, we can use the tunes in a
Grand March medley or something, and it doesn't matter that much if the
dances are too similar to familiar dances, because our audience for this
event -- which is connected to the C S Forester centennial -- aren't really
experienced country dancers anyway.]

Pointers welcome.  (URLs for online dance manuals in the LoC are good too.
Does anybody have a project to index all the online country-dance manuals?)

Thanks very much,

-- Alan


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'St Valentine's Day' by John Meechan is also published in his book
'Goldmine'.
John can be contacted at 5 Portland Drive, Nuneaton, Warwickshire,     
CV10 9HZ     UK
Tel (0) 1203 328261
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Well comrades, some days ago "Raymond-AT-
Labarbera.com" sent a message to a
whole bunch of local New York area country/ contra/ morris & sword/ dance
groups announcing his listing of
folk dance groups. 

Among the effects of this was that *I've* been getting cranky messages
from complete strangers telling me to remove them from any such list so as
to avoid unsolicited mailings. 

I had nothing to do with this alleged listing. I think it's an example of
poor online manners.

I hope there will be no more such surprise creations of unasked for
instant email lists. 

Sorry to bring up such an annoying topic.
Steve Corrsin
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You should send your request to     Raymond-AT-
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                Ray Lerman  using mail address  103504.1132.compuserve.com



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Since you bring up the subject....

I have to wonder where Raymond got his lists of groups and dance events. 
Certainly we at CDSS never gave him permission to compile our "instantly
out of date" Directory into his database.  Anyone else been startled to see
his/her own painstakingly collected information appear on Raymond's list?

Obviously, the information in the Directory isn't exactly copyrighted,
although the Directory itself *is.*  But it's the fact that he apparently
intends to make money from this endeavor, without asking the permission of
those whose research he is, shall we say, borrowing, that steams me.

Robin Hayden
steamed (and so sore from her foray to the Flurry you wouldn't believe it)
in Amherst, MA

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At 04:52 PM 2/15/1999 -0500, Robin Hayden wrote:
>Since you bring up the subject....
>
>I have to wonder where Raymond got his lists of groups and dance events. 

Believe it or not he didn't compile it from online info, but copied it all
from the CDSS direcory and other paper publications. He's a bit clueless
regarding Internet protocol. I tried to explain to him the difference 
between publishing information to be distributed to members of a society
with the knowledge and permission of the sources and open posting of that
information on a world-readable website without asking. He didn't get it.
He sent me an explanation of why he had to do it that way. ???

I think he'll probably give it up as soon as he realized there's no money
to be made. But I asked him to remove our entry anyway. Robin, I hope you
have made your feelings known.

John Carver

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Be happy, spring is coming! Only 4 months to the 1999 Fried-for-All weekend
for experienced English dancers in the beautiful Berkshires of Western Mass.
Friday-Sunday June11-13. Weekend price of around $70 includes: 3 workshops
taught by the incomparable Fried deMetz Herman! 2 evening dance parties!
Saturday lunch! Sunday breakfast! Music played by MGM (Margaret Ann Martin,
Gene Murrow, Mary Lea.) All events held at the beautiful Lenox Community
Center.  Flyers going out early March. To add your name to the list, or for
additional info, contact Judy Grunberg -AT-
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Dancers -

If, by some bizarre quirk of Fate, you have missed the flyers blanketing
the entire east coast concerning this dance, here is the info...


English Country Dance for Advanced Dancers

Sunday, February 21, 2:00 - 5:30 p.m.

Admission $8

Masonic Temple, 19 Main Street, Amherst, MA

Caller: Brad Foster (check out his tan from the Caribbean!)

Musicians:  Earl Gaddis (...and his tan!) and Karen Axelrod


Special bonus -- get another chance to enjoy Brad's calling by coming to
the Pleasures of the Town English Country Dance ($6) on Saturday, Feb.
20, 8:00-11:00 p.m.

Directions:

I-91, Exit 19 (Route 9, Amherst). Go east approx. 5+ miles on Route 9 up
a gentle hill; LEFT at the light onto South Pleasant St. (at the town
common); RIGHT at next light onto Main Street.  The Masonic Temple is on
the right, just past Black Sheep Deli and Paradise of India restaurant. 
Park free on nearby streets or downtown lots. 

See you there!

Mary (no tan just green with envy) Jones
Amherst, MA
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I can still take a few more dancers for our Playford Ball on Saturday,
March 6. Please call or email if you are interested in attending.
              
             Lyrl Ahern
             Registrar

(978) 263-4778
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The Seattle English Dance community will be hosting a dance weekend on May 1-2.
There will be workshops during the day on Saturday and Sunday, and a dance
party on Sat. night.  Scott Higgs will be the guest caller/teacher.  Music
will be provided by a varity of local musicians coordinated by Lynn
Warschauer, with different bands playing for the various workshops.

All events will be fragrance-free.

Our fifth Friday dance the night before will be called by Victoria Bestock
and Laura Me Smith, with music by Cupid's Garden.

For information, or to register, contact Paul Bestock at bestockp-AT-
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Dear fellow dancers,

We are thrilled to be able to announce that the complete 1999 CDSS Programs
brochure is now up on our Website.  The hard copy has gone to the printer,
and will be sent to our mailing list on or about March 1; but if you just
can't wait until then to fantasize about your summer plans, check out the
brochure at "www.cdss.org/programs/1999".  (You can even register, if you want!)

Robin Hayden
(for Steve Howe, who is taking a well-earned vacation)
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I am planning a visit to the Southern Appalachian Mtns and would like to
see the modern day version of what Cecil Sharp collected as 'Running Set'.
Can anyone help please re:
        Places to visit;
        Regular events and timing thereof;
        People to contact;
        Literature to research:
        etc.
Thanks in anticipation.
John Turner, 
Southampton, UK
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Mary E Jones was having a 'senior moment' when she wrote:
 
> Special bonus -- get another chance to enjoy Brad's calling by coming to
> the Pleasures of the Town English Country Dance ($6) on Saturday, Feb.
> 20, 8:00-11:00 p.m.

implying that both dances are being held at the same location...

But Nooooooooooooooo!

The Pleasures of the Town dance on Sat. is being held at Munson Library
in South Amherst, its usual location.

So, to recap:
Saturday: Munson Library, South Amherst, 8-11
Sunday: Masonic Temple, Amherst center, 2-5:30

Is everyone thoroughly confused now...?

Mary (whose most used locution is: Duh!) Jones
Amherst, MA
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 02:02:34 -0500
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Nilos, you are priceless! (but thanks for the explanation -- I, at
least, needed it!)
Hugs,
mkf

Tideswell-AT-
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> 
> Okay, so
> 
> >Nor a very pleasant title!  (Sorry, Colin.)
> 
> >> >Wasn't there also a Valentine's Day Massacre?
> >>
> >> Yes, but it's not got a very catchy tune....
> >>
> 
> Okay, in defense of Colin I was thinking not of his dance, when I made that
> crack about the tune, but of the *original* massacre. Which, I believe, goes
> something like:  Rat-a-tat-tat-tat  Thud.  Gurgle.  Splat.
> 
> Oh, nevermind!
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Hello!

I promised you I would get back to you about our summer (actually 
daylight savings) dance series. The schedule is now set, so here it is: 

Columbia County Country Dancers, in Stockport, NY
1999 Schedule (all Saturdays):
May 22: Mary Jones w/ Peter Stix
June 19: Helen Davenport w/ Patricia Evans
July 10: Mary Jones w/ Don Bell
August 7: Sharon Green w/ John Huhn
September 18: Carol Martinez w/ John Huhn
October 23: Carol Martinez w/ Peter Stix

For more info, visit our Website: 	
http://home.earthlink.net/~mandgdavis/

I also have some information for you on our region, which might entice 
you to include New York State (AND nearby New York City) on your 
itinerary. http://www.columbiacounty.org/

If you decide to swing by here, I would be delighted to help you with 
more details.

Fondly, Margherita

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