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>>  I wonder if there are any who know the meaning of this word "Fenterlarick."
>>  The tune, we know, is "Nancy's Fancy"; the dance figures are reasonably
>>  well known--but what of the dance's name or title? As I look at the word it
>>  continues to "feel," to me, like a place-name--but gazetteers have failed
>>  to turn it up, as have keyword web-searches.
>>  The name of a secret mystical fraternity? Initials of a rather large family? 
>>  Gratefully yours in the expectation of any light that might be cast,
>>  Graham Christian

Helene Cornelius had the following letter published in the July/August 1991
CDSS news:-

I have just discovered the origins of the name for Joyce
Walker's dance Fenterlarik (CDSS News #97,
November/December 1990).  Marjorie Fennessey has
written to say Fenterlarik is the name of a hamlet (no
longer existing) near Washaway between Bodmin and
Wadebridge on the A389 in Cornwall where Joyce's
parents lived.   When Arthur (Cornelius) heard it was a
place-name, he rushed off to the Dictionary of Cornish
Place Names and discovered that "fenton" (comb. form:
fenter) means "clearing", and "larrick" (ir larrigh)
means a well, fed by a natural spring.

Hugh Stewart
Cambridge, UK
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On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 graham-AT-
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> A slight correction is in order. The tune is "Nancy's Delight" and not
"Nancy's Fancy". It was composed by Fred Grimshaw in 1981. The dance was
written by Joyce Walker in 1977. >

Uncorrection? My copy of the dance and tune comes from the CDSS 
newsletter, and the tune is called "Nancy's Fancy". Barnes 95 agrees.

Peace.
Paul

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Sol Weber wrote:
 >> For whatever reason, couldn't get the Gusto web site "Christmas Carol".
 >>  Is it practicable to include it in the ECD list?

It's quite large, and I've been told I should have mentioned the http prefix in
order to make the link immediately accessible to some email programs.
So please try http://efdss.org/gusto.htm - if it doesn't work let me know and
I'll post or send a copy.

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Colin Hume writes, in a message sent 10:45 AM 1/2/99 -0500:
>Sol Weber wrote:
> >> For whatever reason, couldn't get the Gusto web site "Christmas Carol".
> >>  Is it practicable to include it in the ECD list?
>
>It's quite large, and I've been told I should have mentioned the http
prefix in
>order to make the link immediately accessible to some email programs.
>So please try http://efdss.org/gusto.htm - if it doesn't work let me know and
>I'll post or send a copy.

The proper URL actually seems to be: http://www.efdss.org/gusto.htm

-Bill

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To save some time/money mailing/distributing dance information to remote
regions of the planet, I decided to make a web page version of my flyer and
publicize it to the internetlands, weblands, Netherlands, wherever. Not
that I expect hordes of people to immediately descend on Troy, NY for a
small, local dance. (Remember Troy, NY? Birthplace of Uncle Sam. That
humble little rust-belt town not well known since it's heyday, making
innovative starched shirts for the 19th century.) Some day someone may show
up from Manhattan, Toronto, London, Upper Kachickistan... we just may get
lucky. In the immortal words of the New York Lotto ads, "Hey, you never
know..."

http://www.rpi.edu/~belld2/RPIflyer.htm

This may be of some small use to those who collect web addresses on English
dance.  I will keep this updated over time. Please include this link it
wherever you think it may be appropriate (dance web pages, dance flyers,
etc.).  And hey, if you ever get bored, it's just a hop, skip and a jump to...

The flyer is 2 pages. The first page has traditional flyer information and
the second page has some background/history on English dance. All comments
(praise and insults) are welcome.





_________________________________
Don Bell
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I'd like to thank Hugh Stewart for pointing me to the, as it were,
wellspring. I notice that in most descriptions I've seen that a "c" has
crept in before the final letter--doubtless because most Engl.-lang. users
think it "belongs" there...
G 
>I have just discovered the origins of the name for Joyce
>Walker's dance Fenterlarik (CDSS News #97,
>November/December 1990).  Marjorie Fennessey has
>written to say Fenterlarik is the name of a hamlet (no
>longer existing) near Washaway between Bodmin and
>Wadebridge on the A389 in Cornwall where Joyce's
>parents lived.   When Arthur (Cornelius) heard it was a
>place-name, he rushed off to the Dictionary of Cornish
>Place Names and discovered that "fenton" (comb. form:
>fenter) means "clearing", and "larrick" (ir larrigh)
>means a well, fed by a natural spring.
>
>Hugh Stewart
>Cambridge, UK
> 
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  [snip] ...When Arthur (Cornelius) heard it was a 
>place-name, he rushed off to the Dictionary of Cornish 
>Place Names and discovered that "fenton" (comb. form: 
>fenter) means "clearing", and "larrick" (ir larrigh) 
>means a well, fed by a natural spring.
     
     I guess the equivalent English word would be springfield?
     
     Marty Fager
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In a message dated 3/1/1999 3:00:48 pm, you wrote:

>Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 19:51:22 -0800 (PST)
>From: "Paul J. Stamler" <pstamler-AT-
crl.com>
>Subject: Re: Fenterlarick?
>Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.990101195003.11147B-100000-AT-
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>
>On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 graham-AT-
gcknight.demon.co.uk wrote:
>
> 
>> A slight correction is in order. The tune is "Nancy's Delight" and not
>"Nancy's Fancy". It was composed by Fred Grimshaw in 1981. The dance was
>written by Joyce Walker in 1977. >
>
>Uncorrection? My copy of the dance and tune comes from the CDSS 
>newsletter, and the tune is called "Nancy's Fancy". Barnes 95 agrees.
>
>Peace.
>Paul
	No, sorry, Paul is wrong and Graham right, as might be expected when he is
speaking about an english composed dance. I have just finished speaking with
Fred Grimshaw on the telephone, and offer the following information 'straight
from the horse's mouth'!
	Fred was at Halsway Manor for a weekend run by the Guildford Branch in the
seventies (he thought about '74 - but Graham says the dance was composed in
'77, and that may be right). The Teacher that weekend was Gay Gaylor (now
dead), and he had a small book of dances (the results of a competition) with
him and asked Fred for a tune for the second prize winner, which he thought
looked a nice dance, and was called 'Fenterlarick'. Fred said "You could try
this tune I composed this morning for Nancy ... (he has forgotten her surname,
but says she was from Cumberland), which I have called 'Nancy's Delight'.
	He would, of course, not have called a tune "Nancy's Fancy" because that
would inevitably lead to a totally unnecessary degree of confusion with the
traditional dance of that name (CDB ptI).
	CDSS published the tune without consultation with Fred, giving the title
incorrectly! Let us hope that if the projected CDSS publication which Fred was
consulted about (a couple of years ago) ever hits the shelves, the title will
be correct.
	On a final note, Graham usually knows what he is talking about when he makes
a definitive statement about a dance!
															Nicolas Broadbridge. 
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On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Anne Marie Edden wrote:

	[snip]

 . . .  Dr. Olsson has taught
>       and choreographed historical and Renaissance dance from the twelfth
>       through seventeenth centuries at New York University, Mannes College
>       of Music, Manhattan School of Music and the Amherst Early Music
>       Festival, among others.

Only CD*NY could boast a teacher whose career has spanned more than 500
years...  (;-^)

[wish I could be there!]

Eric (possibly in the Next Millennium?) Arnold


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That is very funny. 
redone as:
Dr. Olsson has taught
      and choreographed historical and Renaissance dance (dating from the 
twelfth through seventeenth centuries) at New York University, Mannes College
      of Music, Manhattan School of Music and the Amherst Early Music
      Festival, among others.
Whatcha think? This is somebody else's copy or I'd take the twelfth 
through seventeenth out altogether.

Christine

On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, Eric Arnold wrote:

> 
> 
> On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Anne Marie Edden wrote:
> 
> 	[snip]
> 
>  . . .  Dr. Olsson has taught
> >       and choreographed historical and Renaissance dance from the twelfth
> >       through seventeenth centuries at New York University, Mannes College
> >       of Music, Manhattan School of Music and the Amherst Early Music
> >       Festival, among others.
> 
> Only CD*NY could boast a teacher whose career has spanned more than 500
> years...  (;-^)
> 
> [wish I could be there!]
> 
> Eric (possibly in the Next Millennium?) Arnold
> 
> 
> 
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Has anyone consulted Dorrie Olsson on what she thinks she has taught? I
don't want to throw a wrench into the gears here, but we have no concrete
information on how to do dances from the 12th-14th centuries!  We know
there was dancing, we know some dance titles and we have some dance music;
we also have some dance iconography. Unfortunately we have had some
'experts' of the 20th century who have created steps and style and
choreographies, and their posthumous influence is still strong. I'm sure
Dorrie knows all this.

Even in our first manuals, however, which date from the 15th centuries,
there is very little exact information on how to do steps.  A number of
fine dancer-scholars (e.g., Ingrid Brainard and Barbara Sparti) are
working valiantly with 15th-c. materials; they also recognize the
difference between concrete information and supposition). Certainly,
however doing anything before then is based entirely on (we hope) informed
imagination! 

Julia Sutton



On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, Christine Forkner wrote:

> That is very funny. 
> redone as:
> Dr. Olsson has taught
>       and choreographed historical and Renaissance dance (dating from the 
> twelfth through seventeenth centuries) at New York University, Mannes College
>       of Music, Manhattan School of Music and the Amherst Early Music
>       Festival, among others.
> Whatcha think? This is somebody else's copy or I'd take the twelfth 
> through seventeenth out altogether.
> 
> Christine
> 
> On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, Eric Arnold wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Anne Marie Edden wrote:
> > 
> > 	[snip]
> > 
> >  . . .  Dr. Olsson has taught
> > >       and choreographed historical and Renaissance dance from the twelfth
> > >       through seventeenth centuries at New York University, Mannes College
> > >       of Music, Manhattan School of Music and the Amherst Early Music
> > >       Festival, among others.
> > 
> > Only CD*NY could boast a teacher whose career has spanned more than 500
> > years...  (;-^)
> > 
> > [wish I could be there!]
> > 
> > Eric (possibly in the Next Millennium?) Arnold
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

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On Mon, 4 Jan 1999 SallenNic-AT-
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> 	No, sorry, Paul is wrong and Graham right, as might be expected when he is
> speaking about an english composed dance. I have just finished speaking with
> Fred Grimshaw on the telephone, and offer the following information 'straight
> from the horse's mouth'!

[snip]

> 	CDSS published the tune without consultation with Fred, giving the title
> incorrectly!

I stand corrected! All right, I *sit* corrected, but I shall correct my 
sheet music forthwith. Thanks for the research!

Peace.
Paul
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Graham Christian <graham_christian-AT-
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> I'd like to thank Hugh Stewart for pointing me to the, as it were,
> wellspring. I notice that in most descriptions I've seen that a "c" has
> crept in before the final letter--doubtless because most Engl.-lang. users
> think it "belongs" there...

According to my copy of the Stafford Folk Dance club "Silver 
Collection" it is spelt "Fenterlarick" with a "c". Joyce Walker has a 
total of 5 dances included in the collection.

Also, to go back to a long dead topic, I have found my photocopy 
of the original of "The New Parliament House Jig" aka "The Prime 
Minister" and other variations on the name. Apologies if someone 
like Rhod Davies has already posted this information and I've 
missed it - it was Rhod who got hold of the copy for me in the first 
place.

The photocopy I have is from a magazine called "Stringybark and 
Greenhide, Folk magazine of Australia" Vol. 2 No. 6 December 
1980. The introduction to the dance states:

"The New Parliament House Jig
by John Colville

This dance represents the system of Government in Australia. The 
formation is as in Diagram A with the man in the middle 
representing the new Parliament House, the six women 
representing the Australian States and the other two men 
representing the Territories. The various movements of the dance 
represent the interaction of the central Government, the State 
Governments, and the Territory Authorities, finishing with a change 
of Government."


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Message text written by Julia Sutton:
>Has anyone consulted Dorrie Olsson on what she thinks she has taught? I
don't want to throw a wrench into the gears here, but we have no concrete
information on how to do dances from the 12th-14th centuries! <

Great to see a posting from you Julia-- it's been a while!

No need to worry about a wrench in the gears.  In my experiences, Dorrie is
always scrupulous about explaining the scarcity of original sources, and
the incompleteness of those we do have.  At CD*NY, she's doing 17th C.
material based on the few Innes of Court manuscripts, and again last night
she commented on the limited value of these sources when it comes to steps
or style.   Even with the limitations of the sources, there's much to enjoy
in moving to the music of that time, learning the patterns, and noting the
antecedents to the patterns and terminology of the Playford material.  She
attracted a huge Tuesday night crowd (just over 100 is what I heard from
Nancy Boyd, the coordinator), and a good time was had by all without any
pretension. 

Incidentally, viol player Ros Morley was not available, so we had a special
guest appearance by none other than Judith Davidoff.  Many of you
historical dance/music types will recognize Judith as the "dean" of
American viola da gamba players, having been with Noah Greenberg's  NY Pro
Musica during the golden years of the early 60's, and having taught many of
the viol performers and teachers active today.  

The cause of early dance and music was well served by CD*NY...

Gene Murrow
EC Dancer, musician, caller, and keeper of various flames(sic)

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On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, Graham Christian wrote:

	[regarding the spelling of "Fenterlarick"...]

 I notice that in most descriptions I've seen that a "c" has
> crept in before the final letter--doubtless because most Engl.-lang. users
> think it "belongs" there...

Not only do we now have the information from Bob Archer that it was
spelled this way by Joyce Walker in the original publication, but an
inspection of a map of the region reveals a number of place names ending
in "(vowel)ck", while I was able to find none which ended in "k" without a
preceeding "c".  So who is to decide if the c "belongs" there?  If not the
folks who use the names, then who?

Eric Arnold
 Ann Arbor  

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Country Dance * New York presents
     
An English Country Dance for Experienced Dancers 
Friday, January 8, 1999
8:00 - 10:45 pm
Metropolitan Duane Hall, 21 W 13th Street
     
Callers:  Beverly Francis and Carol Martinez
Musicians:  Jim Stevenson (a rare appearance!) and Paul Friedman
     
$7 for members, $10 for nonmembers
     
Please bring clean, soft-bottomed shoes not used for street wear. 
Please bring goodies to share during the break.
     
This dance is sponsored by Country Dance * New York, Inc. 
Dancephone:  212-459-4080
Website:  http://www.panix.com/~cdny

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Those of you who are planning to come to the New Haven Ball on Jan. 23
will find in your ball packets (they *are* in the mail), an invitation
and directions for the local New Haven dance in the event that you
happen to be in town the night before the Ball on Friday Jan. 28. 
Those of you with clearer sight than I will immediately recognize that
there is no such date as Friday Jan. 28 at least this year, and that
the evening before the Ball is Friday Jan. 22.  I have not the
slightest idea how I came up with the 28.  The correct date is of
course Friday Jan. 22, there will be a dance that evening called by
Andreas Haydn with music by Marshall Barron et al, at the location
given on the flier - I got that part right at least. If you are coming
to the Ball and wish to arrive a night early, you are most welcome to
join us at this dance.  If you know someone who is coming and is not
on this list would you please pass on the correction.

Thank you.
Barbara Ruth
(Somewhere in the 17th Century)


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Happy New Year, all!

I wanted to bring those of you interested in the ECD documentation
project up to date.  Danny Walkowitz and I talked with the video
specialist in my office at the Smithsonian in November, and bounced some
ideas around.  The conversations were fruitful, and we will share them
in greater detail with those who are seeking involvement in some form.
Alan Winston will let us take this discussion into a sort of "sub area"
of the ECD list if we like, and this may be the most efficient way to
communicate.  It is very clear that we need to be looking at grant funds
for oral history and filming projects.  One very promising possibility
is applying to the National Endowment for the Arts for a grant to do
much of the oral history aspect of documenting ECD, as they have a
strong dance documentation program.  

Please note that I have changed my email address since my last posting,
thanks.

Stephanie Smith
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Nicolas,

Yesterday I noticed an ad for a CD by the Kenton Ramblers in ED&S.

Is it a re-release of the three LP's they recorded in the early
1980s(?)? Do you distribute it? What's the price?

I think we all like to know.

Philippe

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The website for the AADS (Anglo-American Dance Service) can now be found
at http://gallery.uunet.be/aads/

Philippe Callens

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I checked out P.Callens' Anglo-American Dance Service web site. Take a
look: there are also a lot of connections to U.S. and other European
sites. Looks very useful. There's also a Dutch version so we can all
practice saying, "Spreekt U engels?"

Regrettably, only the British flag is displayed to represent
"Anglo-American." Guess we'll have to have another Revolution.

(2d sentence in 2d paragraph is joke. Do not be alarmed.)

Steve Corrsin

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Does anyone know the author of the dance Trip to Easthampstead?

Thanks,

Philippe Callens

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Hello, Philippe, (and any others interested),
	A very happy New Year!
	Kenton Ramblers CD:  published by Marjorie Fennessy and Nicolas Broadbridge.
	Price £9.75 + post and packing (75p within the UK - more as appropriate to
destinations furth of UK): available from Nicolas Broadbridge, 'phone no.
01555 - 662212, e-mail address: sallennic-AT-
aol.com
	This is a re-issue on CD of all the tracks the Kenton Ramblers recorded of
Pat's compositions (dance and tune) from the three LPs; it comprises twenty
six tracks (with a playing time of 76' 39"!): omitted are "Errol on the
Green", "The Canadian Triumph" and "For Sam" (for The Jersey), as these were
not completely Pat"s work (and there wasn't room for them on the CD anyway!).
	The original Masters were transferred to DAT, put on to computer, then de-
hummed and de-clicked, speeds adjusted where Marjorie (and I) felt they had
been wrong originally (particularly "Little Hunsdon"), and the six longways
dances extended to seven turns (from their original five and, in one case,
four turns).
	The booklet is largely the same as the first record, with updatings where
necessary and photographs of the Band at Cecil Sharp House, on their last
performance there. Dance instructions, however, are not included this time, as
the Pat Shaw Collection, Books 1,2 and 3 has been published since the original
records came out.
	The price is deliberately set low, as this is a re-issue of recordings made
nearly twenty years ago, and we are keen to sell them!  However, despite the
low price, production costs have been the same as usual, so we hope to sell as
many as possible at the full price direct to individuals. They will not
therefore be available to re-sellers at the usual discounts till the beginning
of March.
														Nicolas Broadbridge.
	

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I know.  It's January.  Still... start thinking now about how much fun it
will be to spend Labor Day weekend in sunny Central Oregon dancing at
Suttle Lake.

John Turner (Southampton, Hants) will teach and lead English dances to the
music of Belshazzar's Feast (Powys and Oxford).  We'll be dancing quite a
range -- Playford, contemporary ECD, ceilidh... As I write I'm listening to
the new Belshazzar's Feast CD, "Drop the Reed", and it's clear we're in for
a treat.

David Macemon (Portland, OR) will teach rapper -- he's a superb (and fun)
teacher.  Michael Gorin (NYC) will play fiddle for the workshop.

We're also having contra dancing with Marian Rose (Vancouver BC) teaching
and leading dances. Grand Picnic (New York) are playing for contras,
waltzing... they can do everything!

And of course there will be lots of music workshops, singing, concerts and
wonderful food.

I'll post some details and registration information later.  Email me
(mdevlin-AT-
teleport.com) if you have questions now.

Mary Devlin


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                     Bay Area Country Dance Society
                    Monte Toyon Spring Dance Weekend
                       March 19, 20, and 21, 1999

Join us for our annual Spring Dance Weekend at Monte Toyon camp in
Aptos, California - a weekend of dancing in the redwoods just south of
Santa Cruz.  Camp begins with an evening dance party on Friday, March
19.  Classes in Contras, English Country dance, Squares, and Cape
Breton clogging, and workshops for callers and musicians are offered
during the day on Saturday and Sunday.  There is an evening dance party
on Saturday, and camp closes with a dance party on Sunday afternoon,
March 21.

                             Program Staff

Callers:
   Sue Rosen       Newton, MA :  Contras, Squares, Cape Breton clogging
   Scott Higgs     Ardmore, PA:  Contras and English Country Dance
   Laurie Andres   Seattle, WA:  English Country dance

Musicians:
     unparalleled Uncle Gizmo, with Larry Unger, Amy Larkin and
        Ginny Snowe
     rollicking Rhythm Rollers, with Cathie Whitesides, Laurie Andres,
        and Bob McQuillen
     wonderous Chuck Ward and Janette Duncan

Songster:
     Carlo Calabi  Angwin, CA :  Singing, howling, other incantations

Erik Hoffman, Sound                     Charlie Fenton, Program Director

We anticipate this camp will fill quickly and you may be placed on a
waiting list.  Initial selection of campers are made from applications
postmarked on or before Jan 22, 1999.  Some preference will be given to
campers on last year's wait list, dance group leaders, and current 
BACDS members.  Confirmations will be mailed out by Feb 23, 1999.

Entire fee MUST accompany each application.  Cancellations are subject
to $50 CANCELLATION FEE. Mail your check and completed registration form
(below) to BACDS, c/o Lise Dyckman, 2626 Waverley Street, Palo Alto, CA
94306-2436 (check that name and address spelling to avoid mail delays).

For more information, contact Ric Goldman by phone 650-326-FOOL (3665),
email timelord01-AT-
m9.sprynet.com, or see the BACDS website at
http://www.well.com/user/cwj/bacds

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Monte Toyon 1999 Spring Dance Weekend Registration Form     (email-text)
(Complete one registration form per person - please print)
(If multiple people, make copies)

Name:             ______________________________________________

Name on Badge:    ______________________________________________

Street Address:   ______________________________________________

City, State, ZIP: ______________________________________________

Phone:            (____________) ____________ - ________________

Email:            ______________________________________________

BACDS Member #    ___________________     Male ____  Female ____

Camp Options and Fees:
    Check ONLY one and send a check for the full fee made out to BACDS:
___ Program, Meals, and Lodging - Cary dorm, late night noise area. $166
___ Program, Meals, and Lodging - Miller/Morris dorm, quiet area... $161
___ Program and Meals only (off site lodging or car camping)....... $135

Register me as a couple with ___________________________________________
(Note: couples do not get registration preference over singles.  This is
merely a convenience to assist in rooming arrangements)

___ I need financial assistance to attend camp.  (Some work scholarships
    are available - check the desired option above, and send a $50
    deposit to hold your reservation).

___ I request vegetarian or special meals, if possible (check here and
    describe dietary needs below).  (Note: we are limited to the foods
    provided by Monte Toyon; BACDS does not guarantee any dietary
    alternatives.  We will make a best effort to accomodate your needs).

___ I need ___ can offer a ride to camp (BACDS cannot guarantee finding
    a ride to camp).

___ I am willing to volunteer _____ beforehand / _____ at the camp.

___ We give some admission preference to active dance group leaders.  To
    be considered, check here and tell us about your activities below.

___ Enclosed is an additional dontation to BACDS of: ___________________
    (Note: donations to BACDS are tax deductible)

___ Don't list my [  ] name[  ] address [  ] phone [  ] email in the
    camp roster (check as many as you want excluded).

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I know.  It's January.  Still... start thinking now about how much fun it
will be to spend Labor Day weekend in sunny Central Oregon dancing at
Suttle Lake.

John Turner (Southampton, Hants) will teach and lead English dances to the
music of Belshazzar's Feast (Powys and Oxford).  We'll be dancing quite a
range -- Playford, contemporary ECD, ceilidh... As I write I'm listening to
the new Belshazzar's Feast CD, "Drop the Reed", and it's clear we're in for
a treat.

David Macemon (Portland, OR) will teach rapper -- he's a superb (and fun)
teacher.  Michael Gorin (NYC) will play fiddle for the workshop.

We're also having contra dancing with Marian Rose (Vancouver BC) teaching
and leading dances. Grand Picnic (New York) are playing for contras,
waltzing... they can do everything!

And of course there will be lots of music workshops, singing, concerts and
wonderful food.

I'll post some details and registration information later.  Email me
(mdevlin-AT-
teleport.com) if you have questions now.

Mary Devlin


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My (well, Rhod's,  from Freda McIntyre's) database says Trip to Easthampstead
was written by Ellen Taylor,  and published in the booklet with the 'Barn
Dance Party' tape.

Hugh
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Our "mostly-English" country dance and cross-country ski weekend will be held
February 12-15, 1999, in the Laurel Highlands of Pennsylvania (near Somerset,
PA).  Dance leaders will be BRAD SAYLER and myself, with music by MARTY TAYLOR,
ALEXANDER MITCHELL and DAVID WIESLER.  Ski program leader will be BOB MATHIS. 
Children's dance and crafts program (afternoon and evenings) will be led by
ELIOT and MARTA APPELSTEIN. 

Cost of $142 (adult members of BFMS, CDSS, FSGW, PATC)/$155 (non-members)
includes all afternoon and evening dances, ski instruction, three nights lodging
and eight meals.  Children's (between 3 and 12) fee is $55.

Come join us skiing and dancing... it's a blast!

Registration details from Ellen at <emdorosh-AT-
intrepid.net> or call me at
304-728-6400 between 7:30 pm and 9:30 pm (EST) any weekday.

Peter Fricke
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I wonder whether any one has authors/sources for these next dances (I
have been
going through my dance notes, so...):

- Cherry Stones (longways)
- The Crown (longways, by David Anderton (?), to the tune of The
Princess Royal (?))
- The Haydn (three-couple longways)
- Leaving of Liverpool (three-couple longways)

Philippe Callens

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Looking through my indices I have the following:-

Leaving of Liverpool  in Barn Dance Saturday Night from Ring O'Bells

The Hayden from The Village Maid 1988

I could not locate the other two.


Graham Knight
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   >From:    	Philippe Callens <Philippe.Callens-AT-
uia.ua.ac.be>
   >To:        	ECD discussion list <ECD-AT-
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   >I wonder whether any one has authors/sources for these next dances (I
   >have been
   >going through my dance notes, so...):
   >
   >- Cherry Stones (longways)
   >- The Crown (longways, by David Anderton (?), to the tune of The
   >Princess Royal (?))
   >- The Haydn (three-couple longways)
   >- Leaving of Liverpool (three-couple longways)
   >
   >Philippe Callens
   >
   >

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Hi all -
I've been told that the Ralph Waughn Williams Library is not yet reachable
on the net. I have some questions concerning work which Maud Karpeles did
in the early sixties. If anyone on this list visits the RVW on occasion and
is willing to help me, please email.
Thanks in advance!

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To ECD list subscribers:

We hope you will join us for a glorious evening of English dancing at
our Playford Ball on April 17, 1999. The complete flyer including
registration information is available at this website:
 http://www.panix.com/~cdny/english/playford.htm

Print the registration form and mail it to us with your check. No SASE
needed. Early registration is advised. Feel free to pass this info. on
to other dance friends who may not be on the ECD list..

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Hello Graham,

graham-AT-
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> Looking through my indices I have the following:-
>
> Leaving of Liverpool  in Barn Dance Saturday Night from Ring O'Bells

I'll look that one up!

>
>
> The Hayden from The Village Maid 1988

Is that the name of a book?

>
>
> I could not locate the other two.
>
> Graham Knight

Thanks. Hope to see you soon again.


Philippe

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>>  I wonder whether any one has authors for these next dances (I have been
>>  going through my dance notes, so...):
>>  
>>  - Cherry Stones (longways)
>>  - The Crown (longways, by David Anderton (?), to the tune of The
>>  Princess Royal (?))
>>  - The Haydn (three-couple longways)
>>  - Leaving of Liverpool (three-couple longways)

Cherry Stones was written by Judy Lines,  secretary to the Watford dance
group on the retirement of its leader Miss Stone (probably in about 1962).

Don't you just hate it when people go on about dances you know nothing
about?  (Remember the cruel thread of "new dances we enjoyed at Pinewoods"
last September?)

Anyway,  my records suggest

    Cherry Stones by Judy Lines
    duple minor proper,  to the tune "Cherry Ripe"

    all set and turn single to the centre;  circle left
    all set and turn single to the centre;  star left
    1s cross and cast; and half figure eight up ending in centre
    line of four lead up and fall back,  as you fall back
            the 1s cast;  all 2 hand turn partner

Though I'm not convinced I've got this right -- I expect Philippe will
correct me if I am wrong.

Just to enthuse (I have no idea who wrote it);  I think
Leaving of Liverpool is a great dance -- dead easy,  and fits the music
(the obvious tune) beautifully

    Leaving of Liverpool
    3 couple longways

    lines forward and back;  middles gatepost up
    lines forward and back;  middles gatepost down
    circle six left;  and right
    1s cross and cast;  cross and cast
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On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 HUGH-AT-
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	[snip]

> Don't you just hate it when people go on about dances you know nothing
> about?  (Remember the cruel thread of "new dances we enjoyed at Pinewoods"
> last September?)

It's true, there's a certain frustration about hearing titles to dances
that are unfamiliar, and not having access to a source to check them out.
But there's a certain fascination, too, in that it provides a glimpse of
what is out there to be "discovered" by those of us who came to enjoy ECD
for the first time well after the death of Pat Shaw.

A worthwhile project, in my opinion, would be to assemble and publish a
collection of EC dances composed between the appearance of Maggot Pie and
Shaw's death, focusing particularly on dances that are not currently
available from sources that are in print.  

Thanks, Hugh, for posting instructions for Cherry Stones and Leaving of
Liverpool.  Do you have references for sources for the tunes, by any
chance?

Eric Arnold
 Ann Arbor

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>>  Thanks, Hugh, for posting instructions for Cherry Stones and Leaving of
>>  Liverpool.  Do you have references for sources for the tunes, by any
>>  chance?

I supposed I deserved that.  I can't offer anything for Cherry Ripe,  but
does this make sense?

X:150
T:Leaving of Liverpool
C:Trad
P:3xAABB
M:4/4
Q:C2=122
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P:A
GA|B2 Bd cBAG|g3 e d2 GA|Bd z2 e2 d2|A6 GA|\
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B2 Bd cBAG|g<a ge d2 GA|Bd dB A2 A2|G6 z2:|

(see http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/ for details of ABC notation)

Hugh Stewart
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To tempt you further, here are the dance leaders and musicians:
        MCs: Yonina Gordon & Gene Murrow
        Band: Reunion [Jonathan Jensen, piano; Dan Beerbohm, flute, etc.;
Barbara Greenberg, violin]
We look forward to seeing you on 4/17 [and at the out-of-towners brunch on
the 18th as well].

Sharon Green


At 12:37 AM 1/22/99 -0500, Bob Erenburg wrote:
>To ECD list subscribers:
>
>We hope you will join us for a glorious evening of English dancing at
>our Playford Ball on April 17, 1999. The complete flyer including
>registration information is available at this website:
> http://www.panix.com/~cdny/english/playford.htm
>
>Print the registration form and mail it to us with your check. No SASE
>needed. Early registration is advised. Feel free to pass this info. on
>to other dance friends who may not be on the ECD list..
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A Little Mystery...by Nick Noir, as told to Ric Goldman

It was a dark and stormy night.  I stared at The Hole in the Wall of
my office next to the window overlooking Dublin Bay.  I popped a
Chestnut into my mouth and wondered about the package that had shown
up marked Handle with Care.  Inside was two tickets to a dance, a
booklet of dance instructions, and an envelope marked "In Search of
the Playford Ball".  I opened the envelope and discovered a letter
from The First Lady:

"I write to you despite your reputation.  For almost 20 years, I and
my associates have been on the trail of a silver sphere called the
Playford Ball.  First showing up at the Duke of Kent's Waltz, it is
steeped with such history and value that I must have it.  Despite
being seen at both Freeford Gardens and Kelsterne Gardens and a
rumored display at Margaret's Waltz, it has all but escaped my grasp.
I almost came across it a year ago in the Epping Forest, but Nonesuch
luck, it was not there.  I am told it will make an appearance at the
English Country Dance for the Bay Area Country Dance Society, at the
Scottish Rite Temple, 1547 Lakeside Drive in Oakland California on
March 27, 1999.  I will make it worth your while if you can get it".

I knew of this Fair Quaker of Deal - she hadn't welched on an offer
yet.  Besides this caper could get me out of the cheap district on
St. Martin's Lane, and launch my career as shamus to the social set
up at Lilliburlero.  I decided to swing down to one of my favorite
watering holes, Jack's Maggot, to see if there was any word on the
street.

The barkeep referred me to a blonde bombshell over in the corner,
drinking from a bottle marked Orleans Baffled.  She really wasn't
my type - a young reporter for the local bird cage liner - but I
asked if I could join her, and if she knew anything about the Ball.

Her name was Terpsichore, "but you can call me Sarah...yeah, I heard
of it.  It's supposed to be a mix of elegance and enjoyment".

"The Ball?"

"That, too, but I was thinking of the dance.  There's just something 
special about English Country Dance.  And what a joint!  A full 
ballroom, live music, scrumptious food, and really swell people.  All
that for $23.  Shoot, you could even go and just watch - they got this
place they call 'the gallery' you can just hang out in for $8.  You're
lucky you got tickets.  It's advance registration only - last day's 
March 24th - and you get a discount if you register before March 8th.
After that is $28."

"What I do if I want a brush up on these dances?"

"Oh, no problem.  They've got workshops and a review dance.  The
workshops are February 28th in El Cerrito, and March 7th in San Mateo.  
I hear they even do registrations at these workshops.  The review is
the night before, March 26th, also in San Mateo."

"Anyone I should watch out for?"

"Well, they say it's run by a gang called 'the musicians'. You know
the group - Charlie 'Fingers' Hancock, Judy Lisenberg, David Mostardi,
Danny 'the smile' Carnahan, and Shira 'the bow' Kammen.  And their
front man will be there - David 'don't call me Ogre' Newitt.  Doors
open at 6:45p, and dancing from 7:15 to 11p.  I understand there's an
after party as well."

"Any other leads for more information?"

"Yeah, there's a broad called 'Marion the Registrar'.  No doubt she's
got the poop on the place.  Her number's 510-487-8141, but I'd much 
rather give you mine," she said with a wink.

"But what about the Ball?"

"Oh, it'll be there..." she said with a knowing smile.

I revised my opinion.  She seemed to know her stuff, and showed me a
side I hadn't seen before - a rather cute side.  In fact, the first
second that third-rate member of the fourth estate ordered a new 
fifth, my sixth sense said seventh heaven was as close as an eighth
note from Beethoven's 'Ninth Symphony,' so, nervous as a tenth grader
drowning in eleventh-hour exam cram, I pretended it was Twelfthnight.

But that's another story...

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Collecting sources from "Maggot Pie" onwards would be mammoth task, even working on published literature alone.I fail to see the logic of stopping with the death of P-S-S. Surely someone would eventually send a request to index/catalogue more recent material, eventually? The sensible thing would be to produce this on CD-ROM and update it regularly - but I ain't volunteering!


In 1992 Bob Howe & Freda McIntyre produced a volume "What Was That Dance?". Its sub-title is "over 3000 dances in the English Tradition". For each title listed, it gives dance type, music type, record type, published source, record/cassette. It includes a list of sources (which includes modern sources prior to Maggot Pie).
Freda invited comments for a revised edition. I felt compelled to draw her attention to my own "Kindly Keep It Playford" (conspicuous by its absence) but never heard more from her beyond a single phone call. Subsequently some of the "revived" dances in my volume above started appearing in other collections. A "trout in the milk" perhaps?
      
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Collecting sources from &quot;Maggot Pie&quot; onwards would 
be mammoth task, even working on published literature alone.I fail to see the 
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a request to index/catalogue more recent material, eventually? The sensible 
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<DIV><FONT size=2>In 1992 Bob Howe &amp; Freda McIntyre produced a volume 
&quot;What Was That Dance?&quot;. Its sub-title is &quot;over 3000 dances in the 
English Tradition&quot;. For each title listed, it gives dance type, music type, 
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Freda invited comments for a revised edition. I felt compelled 
to draw her attention to my own &quot;Kindly Keep It Playford&quot; (conspicuous 
by its absence) but never heard more from her beyond a single phone call. 
Subsequently some of the &quot;revived&quot; dances in my volume above started 
appearing in other collections. A &quot;trout in the milk&quot; 
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<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Henry Garfath wrote:

> Collecting sources from "Maggot Pie" onwards would be mammoth task,
> even working on published literature alone.I fail to see the logic of
> stopping with the death of P-S-S. Surely someone would eventually send
> a request to index/catalogue more recent material, eventually? The
> sensible thing would be to produce this on CD-ROM and update it
> regularly - but I ain't volunteering!

The logic is fairly simple:  By choosing a definite, if arbitrary time in
the past, the collection doesn't have to deal with the problem that it is
immediately out-of-date as soon as a new dance is published.  Even if this
represents an enormous task, it is at least a finite one, and if it is too
big for a single effort, then split it up into two or three or more
periods as seems appropriate for the evolution of the dance.  A separate
project could attempt to capture more recent and present-day compositions
(there seem to be some on-going projects that are trying to do that). 

> In 1992 Bob Howe & Freda McIntyre produced a volume "What Was That
> Dance?". Its sub-title is "over 3000 dances in the English Tradition".
> For each title listed, it gives dance type, music type, record type,
> published source, record/cassette. It includes a list of sources
> (which includes modern sources prior to Maggot Pie).

In fact, I have that book.  The list of sources, however, seems to be
limited to the title of the publication in which the dances appeared; no
information on publisher, date, or whether it is available and from whom
appears there.

Modern sources prior to Maggot Pie are a well-kept secret, apparently, at
least on this side of the pond.  And a list of sources to which I have
essentially no access doesn't get me the dance instructions or the tune,
and yet, there seem to be a great many dances that were created and
published in the UK during this time, and folks in the UK who have been
dancing a long time, or those who know such people and have access to
their collections, can make use of this list, but many of us can't.
Possibly because the interest in ECD in the US spread rather slowly from
the centers of activity around Boston and New York, there aren't as many
people with collections of this material for us to obtain it from.

I think that for dances published in the past two decades, we have
somewhat better access, but there is a large period in the modern history
of ECD which is not being served very well by the collectors & publishers
of this dance form, and it seems that much of this material is vulnerable
to loss.  

Eric Arnold
 Ann Arbor

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The tune "Leaving of Liverpool" is in _Barn Dance Saturday Night_ (Ring
O'Bells) along with the dance instructions.

Everytime I hear it I'm reminded of the song... and there I go blank.  I
can get just some of the words to the tune.  Urg.

It's a very useful, easy dance.

Mary


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On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Mary Devlin wrote:

> Everytime I hear it I'm reminded of the song... and there I go blank.  I
> can get just some of the words to the tune.  Urg.

I've only heard one recording of the song (by the Dubliners, recorded
somewhere back when) and my memory of the verses is spotty. But I do
remember the chorus:

So fare thee well, my own true love
When I return, united we will be
It's not the leaving of Liverpool that grieves me
But my darling, when I think of thee.

Dawn Culbertson
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  A version (I think probably the verses most people know) of "Leaving of
Liverpool" is published in the Penguin Book of Sea-Songs, ed. Roy Palmer. A
great collection of singable songs, by the way!
regards
Allen Dodson


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Things have been relatively quiet lately, so I'm going to dive in with a
request:

What dances do you program for the start of your programs?  What dances
to you 'go to' when things are, shall we say, eroding and you need
something to restore confidence?

I'm talking about easy, fun dances - the ones that anyone can do - ones
that you pull out when a whole group of beginners walk through the door
and your planned program is history.

Mary Jones
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Message text written by Mary Jones:
"... dances that you pull out when a whole group of beginners walk through
the door and your planned program is history."

I usually use Step Stately or Argeers... that usually gets those pesky
beginners back out the door and lets us all get on with things! 

 Or, you could always try Eric's Complex Conjugate, which I used to such
great effect at South Amherst a few weeks ago, right, Mary?

Gene Murrow
EC Dancer, Caller, and always trying to be helpful...

P.S.  I do have a sequenced group of 5 dances that I've made up to
integrate beginners and teach the basics with an absolute minimum of
standing around or talking.  They use some of our favorite tunes (and
"shadow" the moves of the corresponding dances), so the new folks can enjoy
some of the great music we love so well and get a leg up on the repertory.
It's not exactly what you asked for, but I can e-mail them if you'd like.




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Gene Murrow wrote:

> I usually use Step Stately or Argeers... that usually gets those pesky
> beginners back out the door and lets us all get on with things!

I would like the record to be clear: I *gave* him that set-up...all
zingers are tastelessly recognized and appreciated!
> 
>  Or, you could always try Eric's Complex Conjugate, which I used to such
> great effect at South Amherst a few weeks ago, right, Mary?

It's always wonderful to see a really fine caller have to resort to his
good looks and appealing smile...while sinking faster than the Titanic. 
In Gene's defense, rumor had it that his program was (mistakenly)
planned as if that dance were the Advanced Dance for Experienced Dancers
which is held twice a year in the same location.

> P.S.  I do have a sequenced group of 5 dances that I've made up to
> integrate beginners and teach the basics with an absolute minimum of
> standing around or talking.  They use some of our favorite tunes (and
> "shadow" the moves of the corresponding dances), so the new folks can enjoy
> some of the great music we love so well and get a leg up on the repertory.
> It's not exactly what you asked for, but I can e-mail them if you'd like.

Gene - that would be wonderful even if it's slightly different than what
I meant...I'm sure that all of us would love to know what they are.  We
each could use a few tricks to pull out now and then.

Mary Jones
Who was mentally sticking pins in my Eric Arnold doll that night
Amherst, MA
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On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Mary E Jones wrote:

> Gene Murrow wrote:

	[snip]

> >  Or, you could always try Eric's Complex Conjugate, which I used to such
> > great effect at South Amherst a few weeks ago, right, Mary?

	[more snipped]

> Mary Jones
> Who was mentally sticking pins in my Eric Arnold doll that night
> Amherst, MA

Hey, hey  [ };-') ] -- don't blame me.  I _told_ him to use the other
version when he was out in the provinces!

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On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Mary E Jones wrote:

> What dances do you program for the start of your programs?  What dances
> to you 'go to' when things are, shall we say, eroding and you need
> something to restore confidence?
> I'm talking about easy, fun dances - the ones that anyone can do - ones
> that you pull out when a whole group of beginners walk through the door
> and your planned program is history.

I've found the following dances to be pretty reliable in such instances:

Take a Dance
Portsmouth
Mount Hills
Cockle Shells
Mulberry Garden
Dressed Ship
Rakes of Rochester
Money in Both Pockets
Johnny Fetch Your Wife Back (a very silly but enjoyable dance for 5
couples longways that's found in the Community Dance Manual)

Hope this helps.

Dawn Culbertson
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Does anyone out there have sources for dances in the US 
during August?  We are coming across for the Between the 
Bays dance camp (Aug 15-21) and wondered what else might be 
happening aside from Pinewoods.  Evenings or weekends would 
be good rather than complete weeks - we need some holiday 
between times to recover:)
Paul

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HUGH-AT-
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> My records suggest
>
>     Cherry Stones by Judy Lines
>     duple minor proper,  to the tune "Cherry Ripe"
>
>     all set and turn single to the centre;  circle left
>     all set and turn single to the centre;  star left
>     1s cross and cast; and half figure eight up ending in centre
>     line of four lead up and fall back,  as you fall back
>             the 1s cast;  all 2 hand turn partner
>
> Though I'm not convinced I've got this right -- I expect Philippe will
> correct me if I am wrong.
>

Well, the B-part is 20 bars long.
1-4    Ones cross and cast.
5-8    Half figure eight up into lines of four.
9-12    That line leads up a double and back.
13-16    Assisted cast ("gates" 3/4)
17-20    All two-hand turn partner.

That's what my notes say; I don't have any published source for it (I learnt it
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Some of my favorites for new dancers include:

Take a Dance
Indian Queen
Leaving of Liverpool (which we've been discussing)
Dover Pier
Zephyrs and Flora
Auretti's Dutch Skipper

Polka Dots (5 person - pushing it for beginners without the moderating
influence of a mixed group, but ever so useful when there is an awkward
number of dancers at the beginning of the evening)

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In message <v01540b09b2d1da4bc82b-AT-
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<mdevlin-AT-
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>Some of my favorites for new dancers include:


>Polka Dots (5 person - pushing it for beginners without the moderating
>influence of a mixed group, but ever so useful when there is an awkward
>number of dancers at the beginning of the evening)

I question Mary Devlin's suggestion about starting the evening with a
5-person dance - surely a longways is much more acceptable when people
are arriving, so they can join on the end.

Paul Davis called at our club on Wednesday and started with a similar
5-person dance, but as he was walking it through more and more people
arrived and wanted to join in - so he's had to start the walk through
again - and again.  And that formation is not an easy one to describe,
especially for beginners!

-- 
Margaret Whaley
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From John Ramsay in St Louis


In a message dated 1/25/99 9:00:24 AM, system-AT-
SSRL04.SLAC.Stanford.EDU writes:

<< easy, fun dances - the ones that anyone can do - ones
that you pull out when a whole group of beginners walk through the door >

Upon a Summer Day teaches basics if you are going on with other Playford
dances

Progressive Gay Gordon forces dancers to hear 'a double'

Silly Threes - to loosen people up and throw in some figure coming up in the
next dance, like a hey for three

Waltz Country Dance -  to teach progression and the moves for Duke of Kent's
Waltz, then promenade from the Sicillian Circle into a longways as set up for
Duke of Kent

Flowers of Edinburgh - the figure eights are so obvious, and that's all there
is to the dance except the swing and change

Sometimes the caller needs to use something no one has done before to help
erase the line between 'expert' dancers and beginners, especially if the
'experts' are tired of "the same old dances."  Always have two of these up
your sleeve in preparing for an event.

Also remember what May Gadd used to say, "If you get tired of doing Cumberland
Square Eight, you are dancing for the wrong reason."



Duke of Kent's Waltz - 
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Cumberland Square Eight always makes me think of a Green Bay Packers Power
Sweep to the right.  Lots of fun, but not always safe for women and children.

Forbes/Kansas		8-)>
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Country Dance New York has its own domain name. Please update your 
bookmarks and any links you may have
http://www.cdny.org

You will find the Playford Ball information at
http://www.cdny.org/english/

See you dancing,
Christine Forkner
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Because the CDSS Board's executive committee is holding its quarterly
meeting on February 6th in New York, CD*NY has chosen to celebrate the
occasion with a festival of dance and song involving the entire New York
dance community.

We call it Country Cavalcade.  It features English and American dances led
by CD*NY's stellar resident callers and by Brad Foster, Luther Black, Mary
Devlin, Mary Kay Friday, Mike Head, Janet Mills, & Cynthia Stenger of CDSS,
with music by Grand Picnic.  It includes country and ritual demos by local
groups--Chelsea English Country Dancers, Greenwich Morris Men, Half Moon
Sword, The Harpies, New World Sword and Ring O'Bells Morris--plus the super
clogging of Margaret Keller and Laurie Robertson.  We'll have songs led by
luminaries from the New York Revels and from the Pinewoods Folk Music Club,
as well as by CDSS President Tom Siess.  We'll also have great refreshments:
our mantra at CD*NY is "Bring food!"

Country Cavalcade will take place from 7-11pm, Saturday, February 6th, at
P.S.199, 270 West 70th Street [between Broadway & West End Avenue],
Manhattan.  We hope lots of folks will come out to celebrate New York's
special connection with CDSS and to enjoy the fun we have whenever we get
together. 

See you there!
Sharon Green

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Please don't keep us all in suspense. I'd love to see what this 
dance is like, if only as an example of what not to call for beginners 
:-)

Bob


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The Baltimore Folk Music Society continues dancing through the summer:
English on Monday nights at 8:00, contras and squares on Wednesdays at
8:00, both at the Lovely Lane Church, 2200 St. Paul Street, in Baltimore.
 The second Saturday of the month we do contras and squares at St. Mark's
on the Hill in Pikesville, just inside the Baltimore Beltway.  See our
web page for details: www.bfms.org.

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On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 bob-AT-
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> Please don't keep us all in suspense. I'd love to see what this 
> dance is like, if only as an example of what not to call for beginners 
> :-)
> 
> Bob

OK - Let me check with Bob Pasquarello about putting the tune up in ABC
notation, & if that's all right with him, I'll prepare an e-mail version
of the instructions, with the variant, & the story that goes with it.  It
will be a day or so, because there's dancing to be done this afternoon &
evening in East Lansing, MI at Bob & Laura Stein's 40th anniversary
party...

Eric Arnold
 Ann Arbor

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Hey Eric,

 If you get this message in time, please pass on my best wishes to the
Steins from me.  They may remember me from my Ann Arbor days (morris team,
playing music w/bruce Sagan, etc.). thanks!
 best regards
Allen Dodson


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Oops, sorry.   I meant to send my note only to Eric!!
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Princeton Country Dancers (Princeton, New Jersey) and Lambertville Country
Dancers (Titusville, N.J., and Yardley, Pennsylvania) continue dancing
throughout the summer--always to live music.

Princeton is about halfway between New York City and Philadelphia, 1 to 
1 1/2 hours' drive from either city, and also easily reachable by public
transportation: you can walk to our dance hall from the train or bus.

The dance hall in Yardley is about 2/3 mile (approx. 1 km.) from the
Yardley train station (Septa regional rail, the R3 line, last stop before
West Trenton if you're coming from center city Philadelphia).  It's 1/2 to
1 hour by car from greater Philadelphia.

Titusville is on the Delaware River (near where George Washington made his
famous crossing en route to the battle of Trenton), about 5 miles
northeast of Yardley, but has no public transportation that I know of.

Check our web pages for info on:

PCD contra and occasional English dances every Wednesday night in an
air-conditioned hall -- http://www.eeb.princeton.edu/~ben/pcd/main.html

LCD English dances on the first Friday of every month (sometimes we
cancel for holidays, but we danced on January 1 this year), usually in
Titsuville -- http://www.eeb.princeton.edu/~ben/lcd/main.html

and 

LCD contra dances on the second and fourth Fridays of every month (with
occasional exceptions for major festivals and holidays) in Yardley --
http://www.stockton-law.com/~rfsesq/lcdmain.html

If you have further questions after consulting the web pages, feel free to
e-mail me: srl-AT-
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	Susie Lorand
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Does anyone have the music and the steps for an early 1800 dance from
England called "Sir Roger De Coverly"?  

The production we did of A CHRISTMAS CAROL this past season called for
the cast to do this dance.  We did a dance with three couples, but it was
not Sir Roger De Coverly, and since we are planning to do the play again
this season, I would like to find the music and the steps if possible. 
We have someone who can teach us, if someone has the information.  Thanks

	
Lynne Carter
The Stable Theatre
Richmond, VA
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Lynne Carter inquires:

  Does anyone have the music and the steps for an early 1800 dance from
  England called "Sir Roger De Coverly"?  

Here's a version:

==================================================
Sir Roger de Coverly (unimaginable antiquity)
Four - Six couple long ways set
(Dudley Laufman's version, paraphrased)

Part 1:  First corners forward and back
         Second corners the same
         Turn by right
         Turn by left
         Turn two hands
         Turn no hands (back to back)

Part 2:  (1s slip down the set and back, or not)
         "Lace the Boot"
             1s arm right 1.5,
               1s arm left with next couple below once,
             1s arm right 1,
               etcetera to the bottom.
         1s slip or polka to the top.

Part 3:   All face up.  1s cast, the rest follow. 
          [1s - don't go below the end of the set!]
          1s meet at the bottom, make an arch, others duck under to get to
          the top.

Repeat until everyone has been first couple.
======================================================

I wrote a far too discursive essay on this a couple months back for the
morris dance discussion list, which we don't need here.

In the San Francisco Bay Area, where this is done an awful lot (because the
place is lousy with historical dance, and because of the influence of
Dickens Faire) it's typically done a somewhat different way.  The dance
begins with lines forward and back, bowing, as in Galopede, but it only
happens at the very beginning of the dance, not repeated with each new head
couple. Part 2 (which Laufman actually gives as "The Reel") is done without
arming, just walking around a side person, passing partner, walking around
a person on the other side, and so on.

Anyway, this is all pretty darn close to "The Virginia Reel", and it's a 
very easy dance in its own right.

You can find the music in Michael Raven's "1000 English Country Dances", 
available from the Country Dance & Song Society. (http://www.cdss.org/sales)  
Dudley Laufman's interesting "Sir Roger de Coverly's Whole Set Catalog" has
some discussion on how to do this and on this kind of chance in general,
but doesn't include the music.  He suggests "any jig or reel."  Ordinarily
I would support this approach -- even in Dickens' time, you'd get tired of
playing a single tune for as long as it takes to complete this dance with a
long line of people -- but there's a line about "the great effect of the
evening came when the fiddler struck up 'Sir Roger de Coverly'", which
suggests he was playing that specific tune.

You could also try a local music library; the tune isn't _that_ obscure.
(Will your production have live music available, like an onstage fiddler?)
If you want one, I bet the combined resources of this list could locate a
fiddler in Virginia who already knows or has the sheet music for Sir Roger
de Coverley.

Good luck; let us know how it turns out!

-- Alan



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Lynne Carter asked:
>Does anyone have the music and the steps for an early 1800 dance from
>England called "Sir Roger De Coverly"?  

From Thomas Hilgrove's Ball Room Guide (1863), New York as presented by
The Americus Brass Band:

This is formed like other Country Dances, with all the gentlemen in one
line and the ladies in another, opposite to their partners.  There
should not be more than six [preferably] or eight couples formed in a 
set.

The lady at the head and the gentleman at the foot commence each figure,
and are immediately followed by the bottom lady and the top gentleman,
in the following manner:

1. The Top Lady and Bottom Gentleman forward and back............ 4 bars
   Then the Top Gentleman and Bottom Lady repeat the same........ 4 bars
2. Top Lady and Bottom Gentleman forward and turn with the
   right hand once round and back again to places................ 4 bars
   The Top Gentleman and Bottom Lady repeat the same............. 4 bars
3. Top Lady and Bottom Gentleman forward and turn with the 
   left hand, and back into places............................... 4 bars
   Top Gentleman and Bottom Lady repeat the same................. 4 bars
4. Top Lady and Bottom Gentleman forward and turn with both
   hands, and return to places................................... 4 bars
   Top Gentleman and Bottom Lady repeat the same................. 4 bars
5. Top Lady and Bottom Gentleman forward and dos-a-dos............4 bars
   Top Gentleman and Bottom Lady repeat the same................. 4 bars

Then the head couple join hands and turn once and a half round; the head
lady then turns with the left hand and every gentleman down the line,
alternately turning her partner with the right hand.  When they arrive
at the bottom they turn partners and pass up inside to the head again,
and then separate, the lady turning to the right and passing down on the
outside of the ladies' line, and the gentleman turning to the left and
passing down on the outside of the gentlemen, and all follow, meeting
their partners at the foot(*), and return up on the inside to places;
the first couple join hands, chassez down the middle, and take their
position below the last couple.  Then the figure commences with a new 
couple at the head.

The musicians should play until each couple has gone entirely through
the dance, and the first couple has arrived back to their own places
at the head.

Then all chassez, all forward and back, bow and courtesy, and see their
ladies to seats.

(*) Frequently the top couple joins both hands and forms an arch under
which all other couples pass.  The top couple remains at the bottom of
the set and the dance begins again with couple number two now at the 
top.

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Additional steps have also been added to the final processional of 
gentlemen's and ladies' lines, in which the "all forward and back"
is done twice, followed by a dos-a-dos and again dos-a-dos in reverse
direction (pass left, back right), and finally the bow and courtesy.

I personally recommend this more formalized ending (it's often left
out by groups doing the main sequence over and over and faster and
faster and ...) since it brings a very elegance sense of completion
to the dance.

Hope this helps,
Ric Goldman