Archive-Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 00:14:43 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Return-Path: philippe.callens-AT- uia.ua.ac.be Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 09:13:37 +0200 From: Philippe Callens Subject: Country dancing at Mortsel, new season To: luc.vermeiren-AT- sd.be, vermeirl-AT- dma.be, bob-AT- hottub.demon.co.uk, AttanasioF-AT- hanscom.af.mil, Veerle.Fack-AT- rug.ac.be, 106474.2112-AT- compuserve.com, aads-AT- club.innet.be, pwb-AT- mitre.org, rpg-AT- inforamp.net, hdaamen-AT- doge.nl, michael-AT- dagnall.nl, donk-AT- hesoct.educatie.net, ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU, W.W.K.v.Eck.d.Vries-AT- tue.nl, grosskreutz-AT- mbww.rpl.de, jmg-AT- scanview.com, antony-AT- iaehv.nl, ekorf-AT- worldonline.nl, miksmix-AT- xs4all.nl, dans_lca-AT- knoware.nl, VANNAUI-AT- bp.com, madi.nelson-AT- wanadoo.fr, LBN-AT- EGDataInform.dk, hall.nielsen-AT- glo.be, j.paul-AT- incaa.nl, Donald.Ross-AT- hks.se, jschreib-AT- eps.agfa.be, martin.sheffield-AT- wanadoo.fr, Dilip.Soni-AT- mchp.siemens.de, spiegeja-AT- sbu.ac.uk, hugh-AT- sdl.ug.eds.com, Kerstin-AT- ic.uva.nl, Frans.Tromp-AT- net.HCC.nl, AartjeVink-AT- hetnet.nl Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <35EB9EA1.47BC-AT- uia.ua.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT The Anglo-American Dance Service is happy to announce the 11th season of its SUNDAY AFTERNOON COUNTRY DANCE SERIES at Mortsel, Ant-werp, Belgium Programme: English and American country dances Venue: Den Wolschaerder, Liersesteenweg 314, B-2640 Mortsel Dates for the season: 1998 September 20 October 18: square and contra dance workshop with Bill Litchman (Albuquerque, New Mexico) (11-13h and 14-16h) November 15 December 13 1999 January 3: annual new year's workshop and dance English coun-try January 31 March 7 April 18 May 16 Times: 2.30 pm - 5.30 pm Admission: BEF 125 per afternoon Caller: Philippe Callens (except for the workshop on October 18) More info: Phone & fax 03/216.04.32 (international +32 3 2160432) E-mail philippe.callens-AT- uia.ua.ac.be ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 01:54:21 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 01:51:23 -0700 From: timelord01-AT- m9.sprynet.com Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: San Francisco: 1999 Playford Ball - SAVE THE DATEs To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809020854.BAA18556-AT- m9.sprynet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT The Secret is Out!!! Here's the scoop on the Bay Area Country Dance Society's 1999 Playford Ball. Our annual English Country Dance Ball on (ok, next to) beautiful Lake Merritt will be held on Saturday, March 27, 1999. Other BACDS Playford events: East Bay workshop - Sun, February 28, 1999 Peninsula workshop - Sun, March 7, 1999 Review dance - Fri, March 26, 1999 For more information about the Ball or related events, contact Marion Severy at (510) 487-8141 Jody Distler at jody-AT- dragonfly.cnchost.com Ric Goldman at (650) 326-FOOL (3665) or timelord01-AT- sprynet.com Of course, one of the best ways to learn English Country Dances (including some from the Playford Ball program) in the San Francisco Bay Area is to attend our regular BACDS dance series. Check your BACDS calendar for details, or see our website at http://www.well.com/user/cwj/bacds/. We now return you to the ECD list, which is already in progress... ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 06:03:03 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 09:02:15 -0400 From: Don Bell Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: New Dance Series in Troy,NY & Request for Local Musicians To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980903090215.00703908-AT- nycap.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Greetings, I'm delighted to announce the startup a new monthly English dance series at RPI college in Troy, NY. Given that I am once again in 'learning mode' as to how to startup and run a good dance series, I'm all ears for any suggestions. I expect there will be a large number of beginners (hopefully students), mixed in with some experienced dancers. One challenge is how to attract the young college crowd yet still retain the older group of experienced dancers. I'm ecstatic about the venue - an old school auditorium (Old School 14) with a wooden floor,stage, high ceiling, pretty chandeliers, and lots of old woodwork that gives it character. The dances will be held Sunday afternoons from 2-5 p.m. I'm trying to book every third Sunday of the month. The dates are Sept 20th, Oct 18th, Nov TBA, Dec 20th and hopefully every third Sunday of the month in '99 Jan - May. Since I am using a college facility, I'm admitting students free. For all others it will be $5. The regular callers will be Patricia Evans, John Huhn and myself. On occasion, there will be special guest callers and bands. For music, I am prepared to start with recorded music. However, in the longer term I would like to have live music provided by local musicians. If you know of any competent musicians in the area who like to play this kind of music(or early music), please let me know. For more information: dbell1-AT- nycap.rr.com,518-489-7720(home),518-276-2858 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 09:03:48 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 12:00:13 -0400 From: Daniel Walkowitz Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: New Dance Series in Troy,NY & Request for Local Musicians To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980902120013.006d416c-AT- is2.nyu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT How wonderul to hear of dancing in Troy and at Rennselltute, both as a former faculty there (yo 30 years ago it was my first teaching job, and stormy protest years they were!) and as an historian of Troy's 19th century history. The city still has one of the best music hall rooms for sound (now a bank, I believe). I hope I can make it up to Troy one day to join in the fun. Getting large numbers of those engineers to dance will be a challenge. Best of luck, Danny Walkowitz At 09:02 AM 9/3/1998 -0400, you wrote: >Greetings, > >I'm delighted to announce the startup a new monthly English dance series at >RPI college in Troy, NY. Given that I am once again in 'learning mode' as >to how to startup and run a good dance series, I'm all ears for any >suggestions. I expect there will be a large number of beginners (hopefully >students), mixed in with some experienced dancers. One challenge is how to >attract the young college crowd yet still retain the older group of >experienced dancers. > >I'm ecstatic about the venue - an old school auditorium (Old School 14) >with a wooden floor,stage, high ceiling, pretty chandeliers, and lots of >old woodwork that gives it character. The dances will be held Sunday >afternoons from 2-5 p.m. I'm trying to book every third Sunday of the >month. The dates are Sept 20th, Oct 18th, Nov TBA, Dec 20th and hopefully >every third Sunday of the month in '99 Jan - May. Since I am using a >college facility, I'm admitting students free. For all others it will be $5. > >The regular callers will be Patricia Evans, John Huhn and myself. On >occasion, there will be special guest callers and bands. For music, I am >prepared to start with recorded music. However, in the longer term I would >like to have live music provided by local musicians. If you know of any >competent musicians in the area who like to play this kind of music(or >early music), please let me know. > >For more information: dbell1-AT- nycap.rr.com,518-489-7720(home),518-276-2858 > > Daniel J. Walkowitz Director, Metropolitan Studies, and Professor of History 285 Mercer Street, rm 703, New York University New York, New York 10003-6607 tel. (212) 998-8091 fax (212) 995-4371 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 15:45:06 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 15:42:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Barbara Ruth Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Sad News To: ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <19980902224203.13961.rocketmail-AT- web4.rocketmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT This has been a hard year for many in the Dance Community. I have been requested to report the sad news that Ed Helwig, the husband of well-known dance teacher, caller and scholar Christine Helwig, passed away last Sunday. He was in his nineties and had been in poor health for some time. There are many people on this list who have known the Helwigs for far longer than I, and can say much more about Ed. I feel very fortunate however, in having stumbled on the New Haven English dance long enough ago to have had the privilege of experiencing Christine as a leader and caller there. She has always struck me as the epitome of graciousness, and together she and Ed seemed one of those couples whose affection for each other was luminously apparent, the kind of people who make you believe in the actuality of love and life-long companionship. I don't have Christine's mailing address with me, but I believe it is in the CDSS Directory, and I am sure that letters or cards of sympathy from those of us in the Dance Community, to which Christine gave so much, would be some comfort for her at this very painful time. Barbara Ruth New Haven, CT _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -AT- yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 17:57:00 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:56:17 -0400 From: Don Bell Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: New Dance Series in Troy,NY & Request for Local Musicians To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980903205617.0069607c-AT- nycap.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT At 12:00 PM 9/2/98 -0400, you wrote: >How wonderul to hear of dancing in Troy and at Rennselltute, both as a >former faculty there (yo 30 years ago it was my first teaching job, and >stormy protest years they were!) and as an historian of Troy's 19th century >history. The city still has one of the best music hall rooms for sound >(now a bank, I believe). the Troy Music Hall where notable groups such as the Baltimore Consort make recordings I hope I can make it up to Troy one day to join >in the fun. I hope so too. Getting large numbers of those engineers to dance will be a >challenge. But the're so good with figures! > Best of luck, > Danny Walkowitz thanks for your encouragement! Don ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:15:26 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 21:16:35 -0500 From: eferguson-AT- umassd.edu (Emily L. Ferguson) Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Sad News To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >This has been a hard year for many in the Dance Community. > >I have been requested to report the sad news that Ed Helwig, the >husband of well-known dance teacher, caller and scholar Christine >Helwig, passed away last Sunday. He was in his nineties and had been >in poor health for some time. What a relief! I'm so glad Ed got to go peacefully, and Christine has a some years left to herself! But it's so hard to figure out how to talk about Ed. There are so many things, so many memories, so many charming moments, so many dear images to keep in my heart. Emily L. Ferguson - Cape Cod, Massachusetts eferguson-AT- umassd.edu Photographer, English Country Dance leader There are two spiritual dangers in not owning a farm. One is the danger of supposing that breakfast comes from the grocery; and the other that heat comes from the furnace. Aldo Leopold ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 00:39:33 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Return-Path: philippe.callens-AT- uia.ua.ac.be Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 09:39:52 +0200 From: Philippe Callens Subject: Kate's Hornpipe To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <35EF9948.4A62-AT- uia.ua.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Kate's Hornpipe appears in CDM7. For music, it says: The Redesdale Hornpipe or any lively hornpipe. I'd like to hear from you what tune (set tune?) you use/play for this dance. Any recommendations? Any good recordings? Philippe Callens Antwerp, Belgium ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 08:53:18 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 11:49:02 -0400 From: Joyce Crouch Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: "Jane Austen" in Amherst, MA To: ECD List Message-ID: <199809041149_MC2-586B-2B63-AT- compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Good day to you all, An announcement and a promise: The monthly English Country dance series sponsored by Pleasures of the Town in South Amherst, MA, will be hosting a special "Jane Austen Evening" on Saturday, Sept 19, from 8pm-11pm at the lovely Munson Library, with Beverly Francis as mistress of ceremonies. Beverly will select a program of dances that were generally published in Austen's lifetime, some of which have connections to places and people in Austen's life or her novels. Beverly is sure to entertain and instruct us most delightfully with occasional anecdotes and comments on these connections. Music for the dance will be provided by Pleasures of the Town members Joyce Crouch, piano, and Susan Kevra, clarinet; with guest fiddler, Vince O'Donnell. Festive or period dress is encouraged but by no means required. A potluck dessert at the break will further enliven the occasion. No partner necessary, no experience required. For further information, call Joyce at 413-549-4123 or email her at , or call Susan at 802-254-2874. Of interest to the list may be our idea of mailing publicity to the English Departments of the colleges and university in our area. If we get a noticeable response from this effort, I'll report it after the event. (that's the promise!) Joyce Crouch Amherst MA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 12:45:41 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 20:44:57 +0100 From: bob-AT- hottub.demon.co.uk Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: UK / US programs To: ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT morganj-AT- iupui.edu wrote: > I was interested in the comment: > > "I think that the "standard" set of Playford dances in the US is > almost entirely distinct to the "standard" set in the UK. When I > called at one of Seattle's English dances I did pretty much my > standard Playford repertoire, most of which was new to the band. When > I go to an English dance in the US many of the dances are new to me." > > I presume the US repertoire reflects what's taught at dance camps and the > major centers. What dances do you find new, and what in your repertoire > was new in Seattle? This is the point where I demonstrate how mistaken I am about the Playford scene on both sides of the Atlantic. The web page for the Seattle Ball says that the programme will be taken from the following dances: All Together, One After Another Bar A Bar Bellamira The Bunch of Fives * Dick's Maggot * Dublin Bay Dunant House Waltz Easter Morn Gathering Peascods * The Introduction Jack's Health Kill Him with Kindness Measured Obsession Moonfleet Quite Carried Away Red House The Road to Dendron Saint Martin's Lane The Short and the Tall * Shrewsbury Lasses * Tod's Assembly I've marked the ones that I know, 5 out of 21. How familiar are these dances to people in Boston or the Bay area? Is there a difference in standard repertoire depending on the area? Dances I would regard as standard over here: Queen's Jig Elverton Grove Whirligig Picking Up Sticks Fandango Duke of Kent's Waltz The Splendid Shilling Hyde Park Hunsdon House Black Nag Indian Queen Childgrove Geud Man of Ballangigh This is just a quick "off the top of my head" list. I'd be interested to see what people like Hugh Stewart or Nick Broadbridge (who are far more up on Playford than I am) think of as the "standard" repertoire over here. Bob ---------------------------------------------------------- -- Bob Archer bob-AT- hottub.demon.co.uk ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 13:34:17 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 16:23:31 -0400 From: Diane Schmit Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: UK / US programs To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809052030.PAA22294-AT- dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Bob, There are definitely some regional differences in repertoire around the U.S. I dance/call predominantly in the Baltimore/Washington area, as well as attend summer dance camps. Of the dances on the Seattle Ball, there are 6 that I have never heard of (including 1 of those that you know, The Short and the Tall), and a couple more that I haven't danced in the local area. Among the dances you didn't know, I would classify at least Dublin Bay, Jack's Health, Red House, and St Martin's Lane in our standard repertoire, with some others also danced from time to time here. All of the dances you list as standard, could also be considered among the standard repertoire here. I know some people who enjoy going to out-of-town balls because that is when they get a chance to learn new dances, either on their own, or by encouraging their own local callers to expand their calling repertoire for the benefit of the travelling dancers. Diane Diane Schmit Gaithersburg, MD >The web page for the Seattle Ball says that the programme will be >taken from the following dances: > >All Together, One After Another >Bar A Bar >Bellamira >The Bunch of Fives * >Dick's Maggot * >Dublin Bay >Dunant House Waltz >Easter Morn >Gathering Peascods * >The Introduction >Jack's Health >Kill Him with Kindness >Measured Obsession >Moonfleet >Quite Carried Away >Red House >The Road to Dendron >Saint Martin's Lane >The Short and the Tall * >Shrewsbury Lasses * >Tod's Assembly > >I've marked the ones that I know, 5 out of 21. How familiar are these >dances to people in Boston or the Bay area? Is there a difference in >standard repertoire depending on the area? > >Dances I would regard as standard over here: > >Queen's Jig >Elverton Grove >Whirligig >Picking Up Sticks >Fandango >Duke of Kent's Waltz >The Splendid Shilling >Hyde Park >Hunsdon House >Black Nag >Indian Queen >Childgrove >Geud Man of Ballangigh > >This is just a quick "off the top of my head" list. I'd be interested to >see what people like Hugh Stewart or Nick Broadbridge (who are far >more up on Playford than I am) think of as the "standard" repertoire over here. > >Bob > >---------------------------------------------------------- >-- Bob Archer bob-AT- hottub.demon.co.uk > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 13:55:34 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 16:55:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Sharon Green Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: UK / US programs To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809052055.QAA24784-AT- mail1.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT What strikes me about the Seattle Ball program and other ball programs is the percentage of dances that are either contemporary dances or recent reconstructions. I've emended the list Bob posted to indicate these. Of the dances Bob starred, two are modern dances by contemporary British choreographers; they're not all that well-known in the States. The other three are classics/chestnuts on both sides of the pond. In recent years the West Coast has been fortunate enough to receive visits from two major contemporary choreographers: Fried Herman [workshops in Seattle, Portland & the Bay Area] & Colin Hume [Mendocino Camp staff]. The ball program may represent the community's wish to have one more opportunity to enjoy the new dances they learned from their creators. I also will be very interested to hear from Nic and Hugh on what constitutes "standard" Playford in the UK. Cheers, Sharon Green >All Together, One After Another [recent interp. by Fried Herman] >Bar A Bar [recent interp. by Fried Herman] >Bellamira [possibly recent interp. by Charles Bolton] >The Bunch of Fives * [modern--Colin Hume] >Dick's Maggot * >Dublin Bay >Dunant House Waltz [modern--Colin Hume] >Easter Morn [modern--Erna-Lynne Bogue] >Gathering Peascods * >The Introduction [modern--Fried Herman] >Jack's Health >Kill Him with Kindness >Measured Obsession [modern--Fried Herman] >Moonfleet [modern--Colin Hume] >Quite Carried Away [Pat Shaw] >Red House >The Road to Dendron [modern--Mike Richardson] >Saint Martin's Lane >The Short and the Tall * [modern--Ron Coxall] >Shrewsbury Lasses * >Tod's Assembly At 08:44 PM 9/5/98 +0100, Bob Archer wrote: >This is the point where I demonstrate how mistaken I am about the >Playford scene on both sides of the Atlantic. > >The web page for the Seattle Ball says that the programme will be >taken from the following dances: > >All Together, One After Another >Bar A Bar >Bellamira >The Bunch of Fives * >Dick's Maggot * >Dublin Bay >Dunant House Waltz >Easter Morn >Gathering Peascods * >The Introduction >Jack's Health >Kill Him with Kindness >Measured Obsession >Moonfleet >Quite Carried Away >Red House >The Road to Dendron >Saint Martin's Lane >The Short and the Tall * >Shrewsbury Lasses * >Tod's Assembly > >I've marked the ones that I know, 5 out of 21. How familiar are these >dances to people in Boston or the Bay area? Is there a difference in >standard repertoire depending on the area? > >Dances I would regard as standard over here: > >Queen's Jig >Elverton Grove >Whirligig >Picking Up Sticks >Fandango >Duke of Kent's Waltz >The Splendid Shilling >Hyde Park >Hunsdon House >Black Nag >Indian Queen >Childgrove >Geud Man of Ballangigh > >This is just a quick "off the top of my head" list. I'd be interested to >see what people like Hugh Stewart or Nick Broadbridge (who are far >more up on Playford than I am) think of as the "standard" repertoire over here. > >Bob > >---------------------------------------------------------- >-- Bob Archer bob-AT- hottub.demon.co.uk > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 19:17:09 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 22:18:18 -0500 From: eferguson-AT- umassd.edu (Emily L. Ferguson) Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: UK / US programs To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >This is the point where I demonstrate how mistaken I am about the >Playford scene on both sides of the Atlantic. > >The web page for the Seattle Ball says that the programme will be >taken from the following dances: > >All Together, One After Another >Measured Obsession >Moonfleet >The Road to Dendron >The Short and the Tall * These are the ones I think I've not yet seen in Boston, but I didn't make it to any of the three summer dances, and often stuff comes from camp and shows up there or immediately in the fall. > >I've marked the ones that I know, 5 out of 21. How familiar are these >dances to people in Boston or the Bay area? Is there a difference in >standard repertoire depending on the area? > >Dances I would regard as standard over here: > >Queen's Jig >Elverton Grove Wow! That's a recent dance in Boston, compared to the rest of your list. >Whirligig >Picking Up Sticks >Fandango >Duke of Kent's Waltz >The Splendid Shilling >Hyde Park >Hunsdon House >Black Nag >Indian Queen >Childgrove >Geud Man of Ballangigh These dances are all pretty standard in Boston, except we don't do Hyde Park or Whirligig very often - like maybe once every five years. In Boston I consider the standard repertoire to include at least 200 dances. Probably the standard-est of all is Orleans, but there are many runner-ups to it, just slightly less frequently presented and/or requested. Certainly I can't imagine a list without The Bishop Alchurch Armstrongs Waltz Auretti's Dutch Skipper Bare Necessities Boatman Bonny Cuckoo Broom Bury Fair Chelmsford Assembly Collier's Daughter Come Let's Be Merry Dick's maggot Double Lead Through Dover Pier Draper's Maggot Dressed Ship Duke of Kent's Waltz Dublin Bay Easter Thursday =46air and Softly =46air Quaker of Deal =46andango =46emale Sayler =46enterlarick =46ourpence etc =46rom Aberdeen Gigue for Genny Halfe Hannikin Hambleton's Rfound ) Haste to the wedding Heidenr=F6slein Herne Bay Dance Hudson Barn If all the World Indian Queen Irish Lamentation Jack's Maggot Jacob Hall's Jig Jamaica John Tallis' Canon Jobial Beggars Joy After Sorrow Juice of Barley K & E Kelsterne Gardens Knives and Forks Knole Park OK that's half the alphabet, sort of. I don't know how Boston and New York compare. We are the two oldest groups in the US and have been in existence for a long time, approaching 90 years, I believe. And, of course, we generally don't do any repertoire except this type of stuff so it doesn't get thinned out by the whole other repertoire that you deal with all the time. I'm happy to pull up more list if people seriously wish to discuss details. It would be really hard to cut the list to 25 dances for Boston and I still think we should spend our money on an annual publication of favorites, like was done so long ago in various towns in England. Emily L. Ferguson - Cape Cod, Massachusetts eferguson-AT- umassd.edu Photographer, English Country Dance leader There are two spiritual dangers in not owning a farm= . One is the danger of supposing that breakfast comes from the grocery= ; and the other that heat comes from the furnac= e. Aldo Leopold ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 19:59:29 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 19:57:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul and Victoria Bestock Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: US/UK programs To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Bob Archer refers to doing his "usual Playford repertory" in Seattle and finding most of the tunes were unfamiliar to the band. I have to agree, we don't do those dances in our english country dance community. But almost every dance Bob called was familiar to me through the international dance community where I grew up, and not through the ECD community where I now spend most of my time. I did all those squares Bob called here as a teenager in New York at international dances back in the 50's (and still remember all the words to the singing squares) and La Russe was done frequently in Boston and Chicago in the 60's in the international dance repertory. I think the international dance scene has gone increasingly Balkan over the last few decades, but included Hole in the Wall, La Russe, Changier Quadrille, Fandango, Black Nag, If All the World Were Paper, the Bishop, Sellenger's Round and numerous others back in the 60's and 70's. The international group also did contras back then-- traditional, Early American contras like Lamplighter's Reel, Sacket's Harbor, Newlywed's Contra, Lady of the Lake and others. It was only when contra dancing became such a popular sport on its own that the international scene stopped doing quite so much of it. Over the past few years even the pattern of the average contra dance (2 contras, 2 rounds, 2 squares, 2 rounds) has narrowed. Contra dancers have rudely refused to do squares when they are called, and the average contra dance here now includes a waltz at the end of each half and maybe a schottishe or polka to start the second half, with the rest of the evening consisting of one contra after another. The English Country scene, though expanding to include non-Playford dances, has pretty much omitted ceili dances, and though we do some dances with skip-change step, only guest callers call anything with ranting. But members of Nonesuch, the local ECD performning group perform a rant every year, so large numbers of peopel know how to rant when asked to.) When I moved to Seattle, I was surprised and disappointed to find that people specialized. You could go Balkan dancing. Or Scandanavian dancing, Or contra dancing or swing dancing, or Scottish dancing, or Hungarian dancing, but you couldn't do them all in one evening anymore, the way I had in New York, Boston and Chicago. I missed the variety. As a teacher I continued to teach international dance to my young students, and since the public schools are more minority than majority kids these days, expanded my repertory to include Philippine, Indian, African and Japanese dances, going to hodiday dances in the ethnic community, learning dances from kids to teach to other kids. I used to tell the students that we'd be exploring many cultures, and that in one of them they would find the village of their heart, and it wouldn't necessarily be where their own ancestors came from. One Japanese-American kid, discovered that her "village" is in Ireland-- she graduated three years ago, but still calls me occasionally to find out where the ceilis are. One Korean foreign student fell in love with contras and Hungarian men's dances, and asked me where to go dancing in the town where he was going to college. But they are not able to continue dancing dances from all cultures once they graduate-- there don't seem to be many dance groups that do that any more. Vicky Bestock ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 20:01:02 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 19:58:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul and Victoria Bestock Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: US Repertory/Seattle Ball program To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I'd like to respond to the various comments on last year's Seattle Ball Program (This year's is being made up this month, and the web page will be updated when its done)) because there is an assumption that the ball reflects the most popular and familiar dances of a community. Its not really true for us. For one thing, we have 6 callers in Seattle, all calling for the same community of dancers. Our different personalities and tastes are reflected in the dances we choose for the programs we plan. The Ball program gets input from several callers, but one is put in charge of the program each year, and people who know us can tell by how much smaltz there is vs. how much bounce, who made the program. Unlike other communities, where the dances are memorized for the ball, and rehearsed for several months prior to the ball, we have developed a different tradition in Seattle, imitated by Portland, and now having an influence on San Francisco. We call the dances at our ball. Its minimalist calling, and the harder dances are taught thoroughly at a free afternoon workshop so that there is less talking time and more dancing time at the ball, but you don't have to have memorized the dances. Therefore we aren't limited to dances that have been done to death in the preceding months, or dances that are so familiar that nobody has to think about them. The normal ball program includes some old favorites, some dances we do but rarely, and a few that are introduced very briefly (taught once or twice only) before being danced at the ball. (We've experimented with not teaching two or three at all until the ball, but find that dancing them once or twice gets people familiar enough to reduce calling time at the ball, and it also enables the caller to see what glitches there are, and to modify wording to be more efficient.) So it isn't fair to say our ball program represents the regular repertory of favorite dances as Bob seems to imply. Some of the 1998 ball dances are in the regular repertory, and some were ones the community had only done once or twice before they appeared on the ball program. You need to look at the whole weekend to get a sense of what the usual repertory is-- there will be more of the old favorites at the pre-ball dance on Friday night than at the ball. Traditionally the program for the pre-ball dance has been made up by asking callers, ball committee and band members what dances we've left out of the ball program that they cannot survive the weekend without. It has tended, therefore to include more of the all-time-hits of our ECD community-- Fandango, Mad Robin, Hamblton's Round-O, Newcastle, Dublin Bay, the Bishop, plus dances that we considered for the ball and couldn't work in and still have a balanced program. This year the Seattle English Country Ball ( we have never called it a Playford Ball -- we have always done some dances from other early dance masters, and some from contemporary choreographers) will be Jan. 15-17-- the Martin Luther King holiday weekend. The program and flyer will be out in a week or two--register early, as space is limited. I think you'll like the relaxed approach of having a quick walk-through of the dances. And you'll be enchanted by the fabulous music we get to dance to here-- this year the Limeyland Band will be playing for the Friday night dance, and the Cast-Offs will be playing for the Ball itself. Vicky Bestock, Seattle English Country Ball Committee. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 11:25:04 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 11:16:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul J. Stamler" Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: UK / US programs To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Sat, 5 Sep 1998 bob-AT- hottub.demon.co.uk wrote: Just for comparison, I've placed an "S" after dances that are regular parts of the repertoire in St. Louis, and an "s" after dances that we've done once or twice at most. As you'll see, there isn't much overlap with the Seattle list: > All Together, One After Another > Bar A Bar s > Bellamira > The Bunch of Fives * > Dick's Maggot * s > Dublin Bay S > Dunant House Waltz > Easter Morn > Gathering Peascods * S > The Introduction > Jack's Health S > Kill Him with Kindness S > Measured Obsession > Moonfleet > Quite Carried Away > Red House S > The Road to Dendron > Saint Martin's Lane > The Short and the Tall * > Shrewsbury Lasses * s > Tod's Assembly Bloody little overlap! Now for the second list: > Dances I would regard as standard over here: > > Queen's Jig S > Elverton Grove > Whirligig > Picking Up Sticks S > Fandango S > Duke of Kent's Waltz S > The Splendid Shilling > Hyde Park > Hunsdon House > Black Nag S > Indian Queen S > Childgrove S > Geud Man of Ballangigh S Much more overlap -- perhaps we're really over there. Peace. Paul ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 02:06:56 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:59:47 -0400 From: Colin Hume <100116.165-AT- compuserve.com> Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: GUSTO newsletter To: ECD Mailing List Message-ID: <199809070503_MC2-5897-22DF-AT- compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I mentioned last month that the Grand Union Structured Training Organisation is now running the training programme for the English Dance and Song Society. The GUSTO newsletter is now available. Please let me know whether you would like it in ASCII or HTML format. Get the facts to back up (or perhaps undermine) your prejudices about teaching people how to dance and call better! Colin Hume ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:44:47 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 12:42:08 +0000 (BRITAIN) From: HUGH-AT- SDL.UG.EDS.COM Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: UK / US programs To: ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <01J1IXBUBUO2000RAL-AT- SDL.UG.EDS.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >Dances I would regard as standard over here: > >Queen's Jig >Elverton Grove >Whirligig >Picking Up Sticks >Fandango >Duke of Kent's Waltz >The Splendid Shilling >Hyde Park >Hunsdon House >Black Nag >Indian Queen >Childgrove >Geud Man of Ballangigh > >This is just a quick "off the top of my head" list. I'd be interested to >see what people like Hugh Stewart or Nick Broadbridge (who are far >more up on Playford than I am) think of as the "standard" repertoire over here. > >Bob > >---------------------------------------------------------- >-- Bob Archer bob-AT- hottub.demon.co.uk > This is a fascinating topic -- it is interesting to see how many ideas of "standard repertoire" there are, but I must admit I find it very difficult to define my "standard repertoire". One complication is that there are two repertoires: the one for my club on its regular weekly meetings, and the one for a "Playford Ball", either at a festival or as a special event. I think there is a certain element of competition among callers for Playford Balls to find "interesting and different" dances. Anyway for club repertoire I would remove The Splendid Shilling from Bob's list (and probably Hyde Park as well) and add Jack's Maggot, Newcastle, Nonesuch; and possibly The Bishop, Phoenix, Shrewsbury Lasses and Step Stately. I find it interesting to note that none of the dances I list were published in the last 50 years (though I let Bob keep Elverton Grove and Duke of Kent). I don't think there is any bias against "modern" dances, and a typical Playford Ball would probably include dances from Pat Shaw, Kentish Hops, etc.. I'm not sure of the rules (the Seattle list is not a Playford Ball), but I would query Bunch of Fives at a Playford Ball and raise my eyebrows at The Tall and The Short. http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/round/dances/p-index.htm is one Playford club's defined repertoire as of about 30 years ago. (Tradition forbids any change to the document, but it no longer reflects current repertoire.) I should point out that I have been discussing "Playford" repertoire. You should bear in mind that, for example, Devil's Dream would count as a standard dance in practically all British dance clubs. HUgh Stewart Cambridge, UK ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 07:11:50 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 10:08:50 -0400 From: Roger Marshall Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Dancing in Nova Scotia To: ecd-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <35F3E8F2.35B0-AT- tiac.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Some e-mailless dancing friends will be in Nova Scotia from Sept 13-20. If anyone knows of any dance action in those parts, please reply to me privately ASAP. Many thanks, Roger Marshall Holyoke MA USA ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 16:36:47 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Return-Path: srkennedy-AT- email.msn.com Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 19:24:48 -0400 From: Ridge Kennedy Subject: Re: GUSTO newsletter To: ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <005601bddab8$14cc1a80$95a6fbd0-AT- default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT ASCII, please. R. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 07:22:02 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 11:53:16 -0330 From: "Martin E. Mulligan" Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: request for dance instructions To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello, I wonder if someone on this list would reply or email me with the instructions to "Take a Dance" and "Barbourini's Tambourine". David Newitt taught both of these at Scottish Camp Mendocino but I didn't to write down the directions at the time. Thanks Martin Mulligan ========================================================================= Dr. Martin E. Mulligan mulligan-AT- morgan.ucs.mun.ca Department of Biochemistry phone (709) 737-7978 Memorial University of Newfoundland fax (709) 737-2422 St. John's, Newfoundland, CANADA A1B 3X9 ========================================================================= ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 08:38:33 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 11:24:46 -0400 From: solweber-AT- juno.com (sol weber) Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Some great dances To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <19980909.113142.11646.11.solweber-AT- juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT After lots of great English dancing over the summer, my thoughts on a few in particular. The Pat Shaw "Lover's Farewell" is a favorite of mine -- a wonderful, sweeping 3 couple dance -- which can be found in the newly reprinted "Old Wine in New Bottles". I did it years ago at Pinewoods with Helene Cornelius teaching it, and again this year once more with Helene. Do try it, everyone. A small change suggested by Luther Black and adopted by Helene helps to get the dancers oriented at a crital moment, namely adding a quick turn single to the right just before the big circle all around. "Severn Bore", a fairly new and as yet unpublished dance by Fried Herman, has an unusual pattern and a haunting tune by Corelli; a nice dance. I've done it several times and liked it, but then at Pinewoods Gene Murrow taught it and started off with a detailed description of how the figures mimic the turbulent ebb and flow of river and ocean interacting. The dance instantly became several notches more enjoyable, and we could almost become one with the waters, as music, dance, and Nature all came together beautifully. I do hope Gene and/or Fried make this detailed description generally available, so all who dance "Severn Bore" can fully appreciate the full brilliance of Fried's wonderful choreography. (I believe that this dance will appear in a future Fried Herman collection, but can be bought from her now as an individual sheet). One other. Orly Krasner's "Nine Tailors" is a nice newly composed dance, which has been done at Pinewoods, at Mendicino, and maybe elsewhere. It inspired me to resurrect an old favorite song of mine, "The Tailor Song", with its great chorus, "Busy, busy, fitting, fitting, sewing, sewing all day long. Basting, hemming, trimming, stitching, and I hum a little song. And I'm always feeling happy, and I pray, please let it be, that my sons go into business....and be tailors just like me!" Today's Jeopardy question -- Do YOU remember what movie that song was in? (And before the list is flooded with complaints, yes, it IS an old, politically incorrect song; and yes, there ARE many wonderful women tailors, including several in the dance community; and yes, kids should not necessarily be pressured into following Dad's (OR Mom's) profession.) \+++++Sol "Roundman" Weber --- "So many rounds, so little time" ++++++25-14 37th St, Astoria, NY 11103; 718-278-4389 (after 11am) +++++Urgent message? If no immediate response, please phone. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:23:41 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:23:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing Subject: Re: request for dance instructions To: ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <01J1LKGT8XKS934ZOV-AT- SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Martin Mulligan wrote: I wonder if someone on this list would reply or email me with the instructions to "Take a Dance" and "Barbourini's Tambourine". David Newitt taught both of these at Scottish Camp Mendocino but I didn't to write down the directions at the time. Checking the notes I have at work, I see that "Take a Dance" is in Wright's Humours (I), and "Barbarini's Tambourine" can be found in From Two Barns vol 7, both of which should still be available from the CDSS store. If these dances were composed by living people, I'd be unhappy to see the instructions posted without permission from the originators. It's still a trifle dicey when the dances had to be reconstructed by living people, but I'm less adamant about it, and if the dance instructions are posted from memory rather than simply copied from the publication, I'm less adamant still. In fact, I'll post the instructions I recall. (I can't remember "Take a Dance" in detail, only that it's a fairly easy duple minor and goes very well with the urgent, insistent tune.) I had a peak camp dance experience dancing "Barbarini's Tambourine" at Mendocino to Jacqueline Schwab's calling and wonderful, soaring music. It was transcendent. ========================================================================== BARBARINI'S TAMBOURINE (music in Barnes) longways duple A1: First corners cast around neighbors (man down, woman up), then half figure eight to end in opposite corners place. (This is all one sinuous motion. When passing in the middle, go right shoulders.) A2: Second corners cast around partners (in neighbor's place), then half figure eight to end in opposite corners place. (Pass left in the middle.) B1: Not taking hands, lines either balance back or fall back, come forward and cross over with partner, passing right shoulder. (All improper.) Right-shoulder back-to-back with neighbor; right shoulder back-to-back with partner. [I think David teaches a turn single over right shoulder to get into the neighbor back-to-back.] B2: Four changes of Rights and Lefts (with hands) starting with partner. Partners turn two hands at least once and a half, ending proper and progressed. ============================================================================ -- Alan =============================================================================== Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT- SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 Physical mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 69, PO BOX 4349, STANFORD, CA 94309-0210 =============================================================================== ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:47:13 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 13:47:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Sharon Green Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: request for dance instructions To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809091747.NAA23487-AT- mail2.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Re Barbarini's (which I learned from Jacqueline Schwab's reconstruction rather than from Ken Sheffield's, and thank you, Jacqueline), I believe that everyone's improper and progressed at the end of the A music, and the partner cross in B1 gets everyone proper again. So, in the second half of B2, turn your partner once round or twice if you want to start the next round proper. Based on my caller card as well as my memory, but I've the luxury of writing from home. Now, back to book-revising! Sharon Green >========================================================================== >BARBARINI'S TAMBOURINE (music in Barnes) >longways duple > >A1: First corners cast around neighbors (man down, woman up), then half > figure eight to end in opposite corners place. (This is all one sinuous > motion. When passing in the middle, go right shoulders.) > >A2: Second corners cast around partners (in neighbor's place), then half > figure eight to end in opposite corners place. (Pass left in the middle.) > >B1: Not taking hands, lines either balance back or fall back, come forward > and cross over with partner, passing right shoulder. (All improper.) > Right-shoulder back-to-back with neighbor; right shoulder back-to-back > with partner. [I think David teaches a turn single over right shoulder > to get into the neighbor back-to-back.] > >B2: Four changes of Rights and Lefts (with hands) starting with partner. > Partners turn two hands at least once and a half, ending proper and > progressed. >============================================================================ > >-- Alan > > > >=============================================================================== > Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT- SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU > Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 > Physical mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 69, PO BOX 4349, STANFORD, CA 94309-0210 >=============================================================================== > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 11:06:31 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 14:01:10 -0700 From: Stephanie Smith Subject: Barbarini's Tambourine To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <35F6EC96.29EB-AT- ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT References: <01J1LKGT8XKS934ZOV-AT- SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> Alan -- The one thing I noticed is that you had the "passing shoulders" reversed. When I teach it, I remember this by thinking 1st corners cast left (which still means man down, woman up), pass left (shoulders), go around someone to your corner's place. 2nd corners cast right, or woman down, man up, pass right, and go around someone to your corner's place. Stephanie Smith Bethesda, MD Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > ========================================================================== > BARBARINI'S TAMBOURINE (music in Barnes) > longways duple > > A1: First corners cast around neighbors (man down, woman up), then half > figure eight to end in opposite corners place. (This is all one sinuous > motion. When passing in the middle, go right shoulders.) > > A2: Second corners cast around partners (in neighbor's place), then half > figure eight to end in opposite corners place. (Pass left in the middle.) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 11:14:04 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 11:13:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing Subject: Corrected "Barbarini's Tambourine" notation To: ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <01J1LMMRXEUQ934ZOV-AT- SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Thanks to Sharon and Stephanie for corrections to my from-blurred-memory posting. [They do say that the quickest way to get correct information is to post incorrect information; it seems to work.] The rule I actually use when calling or dancing the dance is to "hug the pylon"; that is, pass closer to the standing person you're going to loop around. That results in 1st corners passing left shoulders, 2nd corners passing right. Boy, it's a good thing this isn't an open-heart surgery mailing list. Here's some corrected notation; get after me if I got anything else wrong. ========================================================================= BARBARINI'S TAMBOURINE (music in Barnes, instructions in From Two Barns 7) longways duple tell musicians "soaring, joyous" A1: First corners cast around neighbors (man down, woman up), then half figure eight to end in opposite corners place. (This is all one sinuous motion. When passing in the middle, go left shoulders.) A2: Second corners cast around partners (in neighbor's place), then half figure eight to end in opposite corners place. (Pass right in the middle.) [progressed, improper at this point.] B1: Not taking hands, lines either balance back or fall back, come forward and cross over with partner, passing right shoulder. (All proper.) Right-shoulder back-to-back with neighbor; right shoulder back-to-back with partner. [I think David teaches a turn single over right shoulder to get into the neighbor back-to-back.] B2: Four changes of Rights and Lefts (with hands) starting with partner. Partners turn two hands at least once, ending proper and progressed. =========================================================================== In B1, that same 100%-reliable memory tells me that I first learned it as balance back, and that it's drifted since then into fall back. -- Alan =============================================================================== Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT- SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 Physical mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 69, PO BOX 4349, STANFORD, CA 94309-0210 =============================================================================== ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 11:23:09 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 15:54:23 -0330 From: "Martin E. Mulligan" Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: request for dance instructions To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >I can't remember "Take a Dance" >in detail, only that it's a fairly easy duple minor and goes very >well with the >urgent, insistent tune.) I'd like to thank those who have posted the instructions for Barbourini's Tambourine. I was really more interested in the instructions for "Take a Dance" since we start our new season tonight, and as Alan said above, I remember this as being an easy dance. I asked for the other because since David had taught it, I thought that I might be able to remember it from a condensed set of instructions. I do recognise Alan's concerns about posting dances - the Scottish Country dance list has debated the same thing a number of times. With the replies so far, I now know what to buy. But, if anyone can remember "Take a Dance", I'd still love to be reminded how it goes. Thanks Martin Mulligan St. John's (Newfoundland) ========================================================================= Dr. Martin E. Mulligan mulligan-AT- morgan.ucs.mun.ca Department of Biochemistry phone (709) 737-7978 Memorial University of Newfoundland fax (709) 737-2422 St. John's, Newfoundland, CANADA A1B 3X9 ========================================================================= ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:03:42 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 15:03:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Arnold Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: request for dance instructions To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Wed, 9 Sep 1998, Martin E. Mulligan wrote: > But, if anyone can remember "Take a Dance", I'd still love to be > reminded how it goes. > > Thanks > > Martin Mulligan > St. John's (Newfoundland) I recall: Take a Dance longways duple minor sets A1 1's lead between 2's & cast up to place; two-hand turn once around. A2 2's the same except lead up. B1 1's cross and go down one place, 2's moving up; 1's half figure-8 up through the 2's. B2 4 changes circular hey with hands, starting R with partner. Eric Arnold Ann Arbor P.S. "Ore Boggy" from Neal's 1726 Dublin collection has the same figures to a strikingly different tune, and in the book "Gail's Maggotts" by Gail Ticknor, there is an old tune & dance with a title something like "The Country Farmer" which also has essentially the same instructions (She uses the tune for her own dance.) > > > > > > ========================================================================= > Dr. Martin E. Mulligan mulligan-AT- morgan.ucs.mun.ca > Department of Biochemistry phone (709) 737-7978 > Memorial University of Newfoundland fax (709) 737-2422 > St. John's, Newfoundland, CANADA A1B 3X9 > ========================================================================= > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:40:20 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 15:36:42 -0400 (EDT) From: JBGrun-AT- aol.com Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Some great dances To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd like to add to Sol's list Erna-Lynne Bogue's hauntingly flowing Easter Morn, which I first encountered in Cambridge 4 or 5 years ago taught by He= lene Cornelius, but didn't do again until last week at Pinewoods when Gene Murr= ow taught it during his contemporary class. It is another one I'll be doing= =97as a 1=97in my afterlife. Judy Grunberg ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 14:12:54 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 17:13:12 -0400 (EDT) From: David.Millstone-AT- VALLEY.NET (David Millstone) Subject: Calling at Balls To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <4534942-AT- lyme.VALLEY.NET> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT --- Vicky Bestock wrote: Unlike other communities, where the dances are memorized for the ball, and rehearsed for several months prior to the ball, we have developed a different tradition in Seattle, imitated by Portland, and now having an influence on San Francisco. We call the dances at our ball. --- end of quote --- Our Strafford (VT) Ball started four years ago. From its inception, our committee agreed that we wanted to make this a user-friendly event. Many of us, including some experienced dancers, had experienced feeling awkward, out of place, or stressed by balls with talkthroughs only or with a high percentage of "for those who know" dances. We also envisioned our Ball as a way of sparking interest in ECD in our area. So, with that in mind, we set several policies: * Our Ball emphasizes dances which we think of as part of a "standard" repertoire. Within that broad category, we tend to stress old favorites. (We do include some dances of recent composition and some dances which are less familiar, but these are exceptions.) We want local dancers who are new to ECD to learn dances which they might encounter elsewhere. Also, we want dancers coming from away to be able to look at the program and think, "Oh, I already know most of these dances!" While this year's program has a higher proportion of recently-composed dances, we see this as more of an aberration than a trend; it is partially as a result of specific requests. Those members of this discussion group who are interested will find a complete list of the Strafford Ball dances for four years at this Web site: http://caligari.dartmouth.edu/~cgl/ball/alldances.html * We hold a series of four teaching sessions, one a week in the month preceeding the Ball. There is no charge to attend, and dancers who are not registered for the Ball are welcomed. In the past, we have relied heavily on recorded music for these sessions, but this year we are fortunate to have musicians at all four sessions. * During these sessions, all dances are taught that will be on the Ball program. More challenging dances are also reviewed at one of the later sessions. * The afternoon of the Ball, we hold a *review* session. We go over (briefly) almost all of the dances, but pay more attention to those dances which are more difficult or less familiar. * At the Ball itself, the caller is encouraged to call the dances as often as necessary. This might be only once or twice; if the caller senses that dancers need more support, calling might continue longer into that dance. * The weekly teaching and the afternoon review session are led by local dance leaders, but we hire a top notch caller (Scott Higgs for the past few years) for the Ball. This provides a quality of prompting that makes the dances seem easier, and also allows our local callers the pleasure of dancing the entire evening, knowing that the Ball is in the best of hands. So far, the results have been most encouraging. The Ball has attracted dozens of local dancers who were previously unfamiliar with ECD, and we have been able to build on that nucleus to hold a regular series of English dances throughout each winter (see http://caligari.dartmouth.edu/~cgl/localECD.html). David Millstone, a member of The Committee (wow!) organizing the Strafford Ball ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 20:04:17 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 23:00:12 -0400 From: Gene Murrow Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Corrected "Barbarini's Tambourine" notation To: "INTERNET:ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.Stanford.EDU" Message-ID: <199809092300_MC2-58F1-4973-AT- compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message text written by Alan Winston: >In B1, that same 100%-reliable memory tells me that I first learned it as balance back, and that it's drifted since then into fall back. < The salutory effect of the fall back [a double] as opposed to the balance back [2 steps back and forward] is that you end closer to your partner after the crossing. So, following the back-to-back neighbors (done in close parallel lines), you're in a comfortable spot to do the back-to-back partners and then the 4 changes. Besides, the music at that point is "fall back" music, not "balance back" music (compare to the balance back in Elverton Grove, for example). The "drift" (call it the folk process :-) ) brought us to a better dance, as is often, though not always, the case. Gene Murrow EC Dancer, Musician, Caller, and proponent of terpsichorean evolution (...the Terpsichorean era, following hard on the heels of the Jurassic, saw many varied forms develop...) ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:59:53 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:31:07 -0330 From: "Martin E. Mulligan" Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: request for dance instructions To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Thanks Eric, the instructions for "Take a Dance" arrived in time for use at last nighth's class. The dance went well. Martin Mulligan St. John's (Newfoundland) mulligan-AT- morgan.ucs.mun.ca ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:00:24 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:55:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Barbara Ruth Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Evolutionary steps To: ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <19980910125540.15719.rocketmail-AT- attach1.rocketmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT ---Gene Murrow wrote: > Gene Murrow > EC Dancer, Musician, Caller, and proponent of terpsichorean evolution > (...the Terpsichorean era, following hard on the heels of the Jurassic, saw > many varied forms develop...) > If the Terpsichorean era was such a good dancer, it shouldn't have been following so closely on anyone's heels. Barbara Ruth New Haven _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free -AT- yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:44:50 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:39:13 -0700 From: Stephanie Smith Subject: Re: Some great dances To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <35F80EC1.6394-AT- ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT References: I'd like to add to Sol and Judy's list Gary Roodman's dance Sarah, which Helene Cornelius taught during English Week at Pinewoods. With Gary's approval (he was in the class), she suggested a slight modification to the dance as originally written, and it all flows beautifully. Exquisite dance, with a tune by Erasmus Widmann, "Agatha." Thanks, Gary! I also like Judy's concept of doing these wonderful dances in the afterlife. (Sarah is good whether you're a 1 or a 2.) Stephanie Smith JBGrun-AT- aol.com wrote: > I'd like to add to Sol's list Erna-Lynne Bogue's hauntingly flowing Easter > Morn, which I first encountered in Cambridge 4 or 5 years ago taught by Helene > Cornelius, but didn't do again until last week at Pinewoods when Gene Murrow > taught it during his contemporary class. It is another one I'll be doing—as a > 1—in my afterlife. Judy Grunberg ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:02:36 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:09:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul and Victoria Bestock Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: recording of Rose of Rouchester? To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi folks. Our performing group's old band resigned and new band isn't ready yet, and we've a show this month. We have a recording from our last show, with everything on it EXCEPT our opening dance (sound person forgot to turn the tape recorder on), so i was wondering if anyone knew of a decent, danceable recording of "Rose of Rouchester." Thanks Vicky Bestock ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:24:24 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Return-Path: philippe.callens-AT- uia.ua.ac.be Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:24:42 +0200 From: Philippe Callens Subject: Re: recording of Rose of Rouchester? To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <35F8D03A.610F-AT- uia.ua.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT References: There is a recording on a 45 rpm record in the Kentish Hops series (early 1970s?). It sure is danceable, but up to you to decide whether you like it or not. A much better and recent one (still available) is on one of the Not Quite series of tapes. I have to check at home which one it is. Maybe some on this list can fill in right away. Philippe Callens ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:15:26 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:15:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Sharon Green Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: recording of Rose of Rouchester? To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809111115.HAA21561-AT- mail2.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi, Philippe & Vicky-- Rose of Rochester is on the Kentish Hops cassette and on Not Quite Dutch [West Kirby Dance Band, John Stapledon] as well. Good luck! Sharon Green At 09:24 AM 9/11/98 +0200, you wrote: >There is a recording on a 45 rpm record in the Kentish Hops series >(early 1970s?). It sure is danceable, but up to you to decide whether >you like it or not. > >A much better and recent one (still available) is on one of the Not >Quite series of tapes. I have to check at home which one it is. > >Maybe some on this list can fill in right away. > > >Philippe Callens > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 04:15:28 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:08:40 +0200 From: Antony Heywood Subject: RE: recording of Rose of Rochester? To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <000901bddd75$bc545f00$f04797c2-AT- antony> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT The Rose of Rochester is recorded on Not Quite Dutch by the West Kirby Band 1992. Antony Heywood ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:06:06 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:02:30 -0400 From: Gene Murrow Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Evolutionary steps To: "INTERNET:ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.Stanford.EDU" Message-ID: <199809111002_MC2-5927-DB82-AT- compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message text written by Barbara Ruth >If the Terpsichorean era was such a good dancer, it shouldn't have been following so closely on anyone's heels. < A Terpsichorean error. Amusing, though. Thanks for keeping me on my toes... Gene ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:17:29 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Return-Path: philippe.callens-AT- uia.ua.ac.be Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:17:37 +0200 From: Philippe Callens Subject: Re: recording of Rose of Rouchester? To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <35F93101.1C43-AT- uia.ua.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT References: <199809111115.HAA21561-AT- mail2.panix.com> Thanks, Sharon, for filling in! The Not Quite Dutch tape is absolutely worth purchasing. Real good recording. I especially like Wolverton Hall, Kensington Court, Maiden Moor, among others. Philippe ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:48:23 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:48:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "David R. Woolf" Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: 4th Annual Atlanta Eng Dance Weekend To: ECD list , English Country Dance Atlanta Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT English Country Dance Atlanta presents the Fourth Annual Maggots, Gypsies, and Other Divertissements a weekend of English Country (and contra) Dance featuring . . . ********************************************* Earl Gaddis Jacqueline Schwab Daron Douglas with Scott Higgs teaching and prompting ********************************************** $40 for the weekend (in advance) October 9-11, 1998 Atlanta, Georgia You can find the brochure at: userwww.service.emory.edu/~dwoolf/weekend.html Or e-mail name and address to: dwoolf-AT- emory.edu or call the Atlanta Dance Hotline at 404/634-2585 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Woolf Emory Eye Center W - 404/778-4121 Emory University H - 404/355-2827 Atlanta, GA 30322 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:08:11 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:08:35 +0001 From: Rich Galloway Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: www Dance Niche To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809120504.BAA18289-AT- ns.kreative.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > At the request of some folks up in NYC, I've also posted a list of dances > called during the year for FSGW ECDs. It's NOT FANCY ... a working > document used primarily for the convenience of callers in planning their > programs. It's at www.just.net/~roger/d.called.txt. That's your old URL Roger. It's now at http://www.just.net/~roger/d.called.html ==================================================== Rich Galloway Silver Spring, MD ==================================================== ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:07:54 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:07:48 -0400 (EDT) From: julia s sutton Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Research into ECD tunes To: "Michael J. O'Connor" CC: ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mike O'Connor and others who have asked: A great deal of work has gone forwarded during this century on traditional English tunes. To get anyone started, I suggest an article by John M. Ward, with a review of a book by Claude M. Simpson, because it is chockful of accurate references to good studies of the past and present: Ward, John Milton. "A propos the _ British Boadside Ballad_" An extensive article in (JAMS) Journal of the American Musicological Society, XX, no. 1, 1967. In the same issue is Ward's review of Claude M. Simpson, _ The British Broadside Ballad and its Music_. New Brunswick, NJ., Rutgers Univ. Press, 1966. Many broadside ballads were set to tunes found in Playford. This is a rich source of the highest level of scholarship. Ward is now updating this material, which should turn into a book to watch for. Julia Sutton ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:11:47 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:16:46 -0400 From: solweber-AT- juno.com (sol weber) Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: more special dances To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <19980916.140430.-66085.124.solweber-AT- juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Allow me to amend my own list of special dances encountered over the summer. Of course Gary Roodman's dances belong on that list, all of them, old and new. Forget the home run race; Gary is batting 1000. And for sheer cleverness and imagination, you can't beat Eric Arnold's "Complex Conjugates", a 3-couple mathematics-based dance with "real" (reel) and "imaginary" components, where the active couple traces interlocking hearts in a most subtle manner! Gene Murrow taught it, starting with a reading of Eric's erudite mathematical explanation. An experience we'll remember. \+++++Sol "Roundman" Weber --- "So many rounds, so little time" ++++++25-14 37th St, Astoria, NY 11103; 718-278-4389 (after 11am) +++++Urgent message? If no immediate response, please phone. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:31:07 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:37:07 -0500 From: Loretta Holz Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <000f01bde261$cd6204a0$176cd626-AT- lmh.varisys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Ping Chun and I are going to be presenting Easy International Mixers at the Philadelphia Heritage Dance Festival (Sept 25-27). We'll be doing a variation of the same program again at our local international group- Morristown Folk Dancers (NJ) first two Wednesdays in October (7:30 at the College of St. Eliz in Convent Station). What I'm looking for is one or two easy English Country dances to add to our list They must be mixers and they must be ease--for "non-English" dancers. We've tried Bare Necessities and Wood Duck but even easier is better. If anyone has directions for easy mixers that use the music traditional for other popular dances that would be excellent since we will have to use tapes and will need the music. By the way, the Heritage Dance Festival has quite a bit of English Country dancing this year. It's a great festival similar in content to NOMAD and NEFFA but not as crowded as NEFFA. Check on it at http://www.ipcc.com/heritage/ And everyone in the NJ area is welcome at Morristown Folk Dancers. Check under http://www.att.com/community/nj_folkdance/ Thanks for any help you can give us. Loretta ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:51:33 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:48:30 +0000 (BRITAIN) From: HUGH-AT- SDL.UG.EDS.COM Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA To: ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <01J1X6VJ2IN60014A9-AT- SDL.UG.EDS.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >> What I'm looking for is one or two easy English Country dances If you are happy with "Barn Dance" rather that "Playford" then rummage around http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~thomas.green/BarnDances/index.html or http://www.scroft.demon.co.uk/CDance.html Hugh Stewart Cambridge UK ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:03:24 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:03:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Arnold Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, Loretta Holz wrote: . . . > What I'm looking for is one or two easy English Country dances to add to our > list They must be mixers and they must be ease--for "non-English" dancers. > We've > tried Bare Necessities and Wood Duck but even easier is better. If anyone > has directions for easy mixers that use the music traditional for other > popular dances that would be excellent since we will have to use tapes and > will need the music. Colin Hume's "Indian Princess" coms quickly to mind; it has its own tune but as I recall it's standard length, so you shouldn't have much trouble finding a tune that would work with it. It's a circle mixer based on Indian Queen, and is a good one for folks new to ECD. Kate Skrobela's (SP?) "I Care Not for These Ladies" is another possibility, based on a Thomas Campian tune (old) by the same name, and using the slipping/siding/arming sequence. It can be done in small sets or circles. Fried Herman's "Dauntless Dorothy" is a charming circle mixerof slightly greater difficulty, but has nothing that is any harder for beginners to deal with than experienced dancers -- the progression is slightly subtle, requiring the men to get out on the proper side of their partners to make it go right -- but that isn't too hard to get across even to new folks. Gary Roodman's "Wibsey Roundabout" is a 5-couple mixer that takes a bit more skill, mostly in timing, but is well worth the effort. But it might need its own tune (O'Carolan's "Hugh O'Donnel", I believe) which could be nonstandard length, if my memory serves me well. Hope this helps! Eric Arnold Ann Arbor ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:30:39 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:30:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Sharon Green Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809171730.NAA07091-AT- mail2.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Indian Princess & I Care Not for These Ladies are available on LP or tape. Indian Princess is on Wild Thyme's Dances with a Difference 2 album; I Care Not is on Wild Thyme's Hunter's Moon. Colin also has a slightly easier mixer, Hushabye Baby, to the tune Lilliburlero. I have a circle mixer, Gene's Tambourine, to the tune Kettledrum. And of course there are always Lucky Seven & Blaydon Races. Good luck, and see you at Heritage! Sharon Green At 01:03 PM 9/17/98 -0400, Eric Arnold wrote: >Colin Hume's "Indian Princess" coms quickly to mind; it has its own tune >but as I recall it's standard length, so you shouldn't have much trouble >finding a tune that would work with it. It's a circle mixer based on >Indian Queen, and is a good one for folks new to ECD. > >Kate Skrobela's (SP?) "I Care Not for These Ladies" is another >possibility, based on a Thomas Campian tune (old) by the same name, and >using the slipping/siding/arming sequence. It can be done in small sets >or circles. > >Fried Herman's "Dauntless Dorothy" is a charming circle mixerof slightly >greater difficulty, but has nothing that is any harder for beginners to >deal with than experienced dancers -- the progression is slightly subtle, >requiring the men to get out on the proper side of their partners to make >it go right -- but that isn't too hard to get across even to new folks. > >Gary Roodman's "Wibsey Roundabout" is a 5-couple mixer that takes a bit >more skill, mostly in timing, but is well worth the effort. But it might >need its own tune (O'Carolan's "Hugh O'Donnel", I believe) which could be >nonstandard length, if my memory serves me well. > >Hope this helps! > >Eric Arnold > Ann Arbor > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:56:35 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:42:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul J. Stamler" Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Does it concern anyone that virtually all the dances people are suggesting are twentieth century, and that all but one of those is from the last 15 years or so? I mention this because ECD has appealed to me, in part, because of its 300+ years of tradition to draw from. I'd hate to see us go down the same road as contra dancing; yes, it's exciting to be part of a living and active culture, but I can now go to contra dances for six months in a row without dancing a dance older than 1970. Peace. Paul ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:11:16 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:11:13 +0000 From: dwoolf-AT- emory.edu Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA To: Loretta Holz , ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809171810.OAA23968-AT- graf.cc.emory.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > What I'm looking for is one or two easy English Country dances to add to our > list They must be mixers and they must be ease--for "non-English" dancers. Indian Princess might be a good choice. It's by Colin Hume; music is in the new Barnes but probably not recorded. The tune goes quite well with the dance, but if you can't use that tune, it's a standard 32-bars and "Indian Queen," on which it's based, would probably be fine (if your experienced dancers don't think it strange). From my memory, it goes like this: A1 Set, turn single with your partner Pass partner by right shoulder and turn next person by 2 hands once, coming back to face partner again facing opposite direction A2 Same as A1, but in opposite direction B1 Right with partner, skipping (about once and a half) Left with partner, skipping B2 Back to back with partner (at this point, you are still in the original position 3 changes of rights and lefts around the ring (2 beats each): Right to partner Left to next Right to next Face the 4th person and start again -D ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Woolf Emory Eye Center W - 404/778-4121 Emory University H - 404/634-0607 Atlanta, GA 30322 . . . What's another word for thesaurus? ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:21:35 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:21:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing Subject: Re: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA To: ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <01J1WSMGPFHU8WWMNJ-AT- SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Paul Stamler writes: Does it concern anyone that virtually all the dances people are suggesting are twentieth century, and that all but one of those is from the last 15 years or so? I mention this because ECD has appealed to me, in part, because of its 300+ years of tradition to draw from. I'd hate to see us go down the same road as contra dancing; yes, it's exciting to be part of a living and active culture, but I can now go to contra dances for six months in a row without dancing a dance older than 1970. I think Paul's concern is, in general, quite valid. With the number of people who show up at our local English dances, by far the easiest thing to program is duple minor longways for as many as will, which by itself throws out many of the first edition Playford dances. (I haven't discussed this with the other local callers, but I think most of us make a conscious effort to keep the range open, with a variety of chronology and of formation.) [Of course, the way we do dances from 1651 has very little to do with the way they were done in 1651, so far as footwork, tempo, and carriage go, and the same for 1751.] However, I have to point out the subject line of this thread: Subj: RE: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA I just spent thirty seconds lightly cudgeling my brains to produce a mixer from before the revival. Couldn't do it. (Well, okay, William Kimber probably came up with Blaydon Races before the revival, but it didn't get published until afterward, and at earliest it's late 1800s rather than early 1900s.) I don't think you'll find a lot of them. I don't actually think you'll find any of them in what we call "historical" dance, unless the mixer element has been inserted in reconstruction. IMHO, this is because the social purposes of the ballroom weren't the same as those of the village hall. Country dance wasn't, historically, community dance. [Even in public assemblies, at Bath, for example, the Master of Ceremonies was required to introduce gentlemen and ladies who had no acquaintance in common present before they could dance together. In an environment where you have to be introduced before you can stand up together, you're not going to have mixers. Tangentially, does anybody know when public assemblies came in? They seem to have been around at resorts by the 1750s or so; are there earlier instances? Does Pepys record visiting a Publick Ball?] Conversely, if you're having a village celebration with a little dancing, where the bulk of the attendees are not only of the same rank and standing, but they've all lived there forever and already know each other, then introductions are not required and mixers let you dance with more of your friends. So the dances are appropriate there, but nobody is writing them down. [The only writeup I have on village dances is the Community Dance Manuals, which aren't intentionally scholarly. Blaydon Races is credited to William Kimber; I forget whether Lucky 7 is credited. Does anybody know anything about other "collected" mixers? And for that matter, did the Paul Jones come in before the 1920s?] -- Alan =============================================================================== Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT- SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 Physical mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 69, PO BOX 4349, STANFORD, CA 94309-0210 =============================================================================== ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:33:21 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:29:26 -0400 From: Daniel Walkowitz Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980917142926.006e1314-AT- is2.nyu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I want to second Paul's concern. I would urge a good mix, with half (or more) from the earlier period so folks can see and appreciate the tradition on which we continue to invent. Danny At 10:42 AM 9/17/1998 -0700, you wrote: >Does it concern anyone that virtually all the dances people are >suggesting are twentieth century, and that all but one of those is from >the last 15 years or so? I mention this because ECD has appealed to me, >in part, because of its 300+ years of tradition to draw from. I'd hate to >see us go down the same road as contra dancing; yes, it's exciting to be >part of a living and active culture, but I can now go to contra dances >for six months in a row without dancing a dance older than 1970. > >Peace. >Paul > > Daniel J. Walkowitz Director, Metropolitan Studies, and Professor of History 285 Mercer Street, rm 703, New York University New York, New York 10003-6607 tel. (212) 998-8091 fax (212) 995-4371 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:54:47 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:51:21 -0400 (EDT) From: MartinezPC-AT- aol.com Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <56c045e7.36015a29-AT- aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi, Loretta, I've also found both I Care Not for these Ladies and Dauntless Dorothy to be very successful choices for beginners or less experienced dancers. Another that has worked really well is Circle Waltz, which is in the Community Dances Manual. I've often seen it danced to the tune "Star of the County Down", but any 32-bar waltz would work. Let me know if you'd like the instructions. Carol Martinez ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:14:33 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 22:14:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Sharon Green Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809180214.WAA17032-AT- mail2.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi again, Loretta: It just occurred to me that there is at least one early mixer you can teach: Halfe Hannikin. It's a longways rather than a circle mixer, but it _is_ an easy change partners dance. You can also do Gathering Peascods as a mixer, but that's when you don't get your slipping circle far enough round...(~: Cheers, Sharon ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:15:44 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 22:12:00 -0400 (EDT) From: BILLQS-AT- aol.com Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Drive the Cold Winter Away To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi! My group (SCA English Country Dancers) are working up Playford's Drive the Cold Winter Away for Performance later this fall or early winter. We are confused by Playford's instructions for the person in Man 1's position during the chorus. If someone could enlighten me I would appreciate all the help I can get. Bill Street ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:33:18 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:33:06 +0001 From: Rich Galloway Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809180429.AAA09611-AT- ns.kreative.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT 0000,0000,FF00> Tangentially, does anybody know when public assemblies came in? > They seem to have been around at resorts by the 1750s or so; are > there earlier instances? Does Pepys record visiting a Publick > Ball?] Much depends on how you define it. Don't assume that the big formal assemblies like that at Bath were the only ones going on. We how about small weeknight dances hosted by dancing masters? Or, the annual celebration at the guild hall? By 1715, London was rife with public dancing activities. Opportunities to dance certainly existed for a wide number of people at least as far back the Reformation. Before that, information is more scarce (for rather obvious reasons), but we know that some social dancing existed under Cromwell. As I recall, there was a ball held to celebrate his daughter's wedding. But, I'm not sure whether you could call any of these "public assemblies." If you define "public assembly" as a dance anyone of reasonable social stature and willing to pay can attend, I'm aware of evidence that they existed at least as far back as the 1690s. They probably existed earlier, but I haven't looked. Pepys mentions both Court and theatre dancing, but no peep about public assemblies. (At least none I'm aware of.) But yes, I agree with your premise that none of this dancing resembled village dancing and that mixers would be quite rare. ==================================================== Rich Galloway Silver Spring, MD ==================================================== ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:33:20 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:33:07 +0001 From: Rich Galloway Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809180429.AAA09614-AT- ns.kreative.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT 0000,0000,FF00> I don't actually think you'll find any of them [mixers] in what we call > "historical" dance, unless the mixer element has been inserted in > reconstruction. Not many, but some. Halfe Hannikin was already mentioned. Another is Joan Sanderson or the Cushion Dance. First published in 1690, it or it's descendants managed to survive at least until my preteen years. Maybe someone with kids can tell us if it's still being inflicted on children at birthday parties or if my poor dancing killed it. It's the dance where the kids sit in a circle while one kid dances around the center and then drops a token (or kneels on a cushion) in front of another kid who is then stuck making a fool of him or herself by dancing around the center. The kids far preferred Musical Chairs, but we tried to humour the parents. How times have changed. Epping Forest falls into the category of old dances changed into mixers. Just make the 2-hand turn one and a half instead of once. ==================================================== Rich Galloway Silver Spring, MD ==================================================== ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:10:12 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Return-Path: philippe.callens-AT- uia.ua.ac.be Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:41:02 +0200 From: Philippe Callens Subject: Re: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <360246CE.D70-AT- uia.ua.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT References: <000f01bde261$cd6204a0$176cd626-AT- lmh.varisys.com> Another useful one is Cor Hogendijk's "Three Ladies Yard" which can be done to 32-bar jig music. The dance can be found in English or Double Dutch, vol. 1 (1973). It has a face-en-face. By the way, as a caller, I am really running out of Playford style mixers, especially ones that are not in waltz time. Any suggestions? My dear Sharon, could you share Gene's Tambourine with us? I am curious. Philippe ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:54:50 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:54:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Sharon Green Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Gene's Tambourine To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809181554.LAA01323-AT- mail2.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT At 01:41 PM 9/18/98 +0200, Philippe Callens wrote: >My dear Sharon, could you share Gene's Tambourine with us? I am curious. Gene's Tambourine (for Gene Murrow) 3-cu round set Tune: Kettledrum [Sharon Green, 1997] 3xAABB Part I A1 All slip L A2 All slip R CHORUS B1 1-4 Partners, set & turn S 5-8 [starting w/ Partner] 2 changes of Grand Chain B2 1-4 [w/ 3rd person] New partners, set & turn S 5-8 New partners, R-sh gypsy 1x [wide] Part II A1 Side-by-side R-sh A2 Side-by-side L-sh Part III A1 Arm R A2 Arm L For more complex dances set to the tune Kettledrum, check out Gary Roodman's longways Laisteridge Lane [in Sum Further Calculated Figures] and Sue Dupre's A New Kettledrum, available on her web site [whose address I don't have, but you can link to it via NEFFA: www.neffa.org/~neffa clicking from English Country Dancing to Leaders to Sue Dupre]. Have fun! Sharon ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:19:15 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 21:23:20 +0100 From: martin.sheffield-AT- wanadoo.fr (M Sheffield) Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Apollo's banquet To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I recently bought a recording of 17th century music taken from "Apollo's Banquet" published by John Playford, 1669. Some pieces are quite danceable, others less so. The publication appears to be a musician's manual, but includes "a collection of old country dances". Can anyone tell me if there are any instructions available anywhere for the dances in the "Banquet"? (the CD is produced by Harmonia Mundi) ------------------ http://perso.wanadoo.fr/scots.in.france/ ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:28:48 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:28:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing Subject: Re: Apollo's banquet To: ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <01J1YBY62XYW8WYNN4-AT- SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Martin Sheffield wrote: I recently bought a recording of 17th century music taken from "Apollo's Banquet" published by John Playford, 1669. Some pieces are quite danceable, others less so. The publication appears to be a musician's manual, but includes "a collection of old country dances". Can anyone tell me if there are any instructions available anywhere for the dances in the "Banquet"? It might be useful to list names of tunes. Offhand I can think of three or four people on this list who probably are familiar with the contents of "Apollo's Banquet", but I am not one of them, and I suspect more of us would recognize dance names. I wouldn't ordinarily post such a content-free note, but I wanted to mention (as list owner) that I'll be out of email reach next week, Monday through Saturday, and won't be able to resolve any problems until after that. If you write to me with problems, I'll read your message when I get back from the Shakespeare Festival in Ashland, Oregon. -- Alan =============================================================================== Alan Winston --- WINSTON-AT- SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL Phone: 650/926-3056 Physical mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 69, PO BOX 4349, STANFORD, CA 94309-0210 =============================================================================== ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:07:22 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:07:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Sharon Green Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Apollo's banquet To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809182107.RAA23945-AT- mail1.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT The CD [which is gorgeous: David Douglass, Paul O'Dette & Andrew Lawrence-King merrily jamming away] contains 21 tunes, but you're going to have to scramble to come up with dance instructions for them. Sharp [Country Dance Book] has instructions for Mall Peatly, Hunsdon House, Fy Nay Prithee John, Glory of the West, Juice of Barley, & Queen's Jig; Shimer & Keller [The Playford Ball] have versions of Hunsdon House, Greensleeves & Yellow Lace, Juice of Barley, & Queen's Jig. John Millar [Elizabethan Country Dances] gives versions of Greensleeves, Mall Peatley, Hunsdon House, Paul's Steeple, & Queen's Jig; Christine Helwig & Marshall Barron [Purcell Playford...] include Fye Nay Prithee John & Juice of Barley. Johnny Cock Thy Beaver is in Fallibroome; Cockleshells is in Charles Bolton's Retreads 1, Stingo in Retreads 4. I haven't a clue as to how well the repeat structure of most tunes on the CD matches up with the various dance instructions, though Cockleshells clearly works--I've been having too much fun listening to Douglass & Co. play. Sharon Green At 09:23 PM 9/18/98 +0100, Martin wrote: > >I recently bought a recording of 17th century music taken from "Apollo's >Banquet" published by John Playford, 1669. >Some pieces are quite danceable, others less so. > >The publication appears to be a musician's manual, but includes "a >collection of old country dances". Can anyone tell me if there are any >instructions available anywhere for the dances in the "Banquet"? > >(the CD is produced by Harmonia Mundi) > > >------------------ http://perso.wanadoo.fr/scots.in.france/ > > > ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:33:24 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:33:20 -0700 (PDT) From: rushton-AT- biology.utah.edu (Emma Rushton) Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Greensleeves and Yellow Lace To: ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Speaking of Greensleeves and Yellow Lace, does anyone know the version which puts the first couple into 2nd place to do the fig 8s, hands 3s and heys? It' s much more satisfying than the version I have, in which 1st two couples set twice and cast down or lead up, then repeat all that to get home. It's repetitive and unsatisfactory, because 1st couple then have to start fig 8-ing round 2nd and 3rd couple from the top of the set. I encountered the "fixed" version at a dance in Bedford (England) a few years ago, but didn't write it down. Can anyone tell me how it goes. Hugh - you were there, do you remember it? Emma - Emma Rushton, Department of Biology, University of Utah, 257 South, 1400 East Salt Lake City, UT 84112 phone (801) 585-9425, fax (801) 581-4668 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:51:26 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 21:51:13 +0001 From: Rich Galloway Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Need easy ECD mixers plus dancing in NJ and PA To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809190147.VAA21278-AT- ns.kreative.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I said: 0000,0000,FF00> Pepys mentions both Court and theatre dancing, but no peep about > public assemblies. (At least none I'm aware of.) I have to stop writing late at night. At least no one jumped on me about that gaff. There are indeed other references to dancing in Pepys. The dancing in the following excerpt from the Diary of Samuel Pepys takes place in the house of Mr. and Mrs. Hempson, so I wouldn't exactly call it a public assembly. But I've always enjoyed the following excerpt from April 10, 1661: left. . . We had a fine collacion, but I took little pleasure in that, for the illness of the musique, and for the intentnesse of my mind upon Mrs. Rebecca Allen. After we had done eating, the ladies went to dance, and among the men we had, I was forced to dance, too; and did make an ugly shift. Mrs. R. Allen danced very well, and seems the best humoured woman that ever I saw. About nine o'clock Sir William and my Lady went home, and we continued dancing an houre or two, and so broke up very pleasant and merry, and so walked home, . . . ==================================================== Rich Galloway Silver Spring, MD ==================================================== ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:02:43 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:59:02 -0400 (EDT) From: CF1125-AT- aol.com Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Greensleeves and Yellow Lace To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <56c700bf.36031df6-AT- aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In a message dated 9/18/98 5:36:55 PM, Emma Rushton wrote: <> Although I don't know the version you are referring to, I find it's interesting that you select as "repetitive and unsatisfactory" the move which is, to me, the only nice part of what I think of as, otherwise, a totally dreadful dance. Other than that elegant set and cast or lead, the rest of the dance has the actives doing dull versions of standard figures, while the other two couples mostly stand around and wonder if they're having fun yet. And, of course, couple 3 just stood and watched the first bit also. Carl Friedman ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 04:06:41 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:03:27 +0000 (BRITAIN) From: HUGH-AT- SDL.UG.EDS.COM Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Greensleeves and Yellow Lace To: ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <01J211JT4LN60017OS-AT- SDL.UG.EDS.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >> I encountered the "fixed" version at a dance in Bedford (England) a few >> years ago, but didn't write it down. Can anyone tell me how it goes. Hugh >> - you were there, do you remember it? Yes (I'm pretty sure it was Barbara Kinsman calling, but I don't know whose idea the changed version was). Anyway in the standard version you set and cast 4 times; if instead the top two couples set and the top couple casts to the middle, then the bottom two set and the bottom couple casts to the middle, then repeat with tops cast to middle and bottoms cast to middle them you end with the set in the order 312 which is a valid progression with the ones in the middle so you can do the rest of the dance from there and cut the cheating ones escape to the bottom on the end of the final hey, I hope this makes Carl Friedman happier in that it gives the third couple something to do during the first bit as well. Hugh Stewart Cambridge UK ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 02:49:42 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:46:23 +0000 (BRITAIN) From: HUGH-AT- SDL.UG.EDS.COM Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Greensleeves and Yellow Lace To: ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <01J22DD03LMA0018X4-AT- SDL.UG.EDS.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I have been lying awake all night (well, for a couple of minutes before falling asleep) worrying that my explanation of the alternative start to Green Sleeves and Yellow Lace might have been less than crystal clear, so let's burn up a few more bits and try for a less confused explanation: resulting order Top two couples set, top couple cast to middle place. 2 1 3 Bottom two couples set, bottom couple cast to middle place. 2 3 1 Top two couples set, top couple cast to middle place. 3 2 1 Bottom two couples set, bottom couple cast to middle place. 3 1 2 If you like the tune, but not the dance then you could try Les Manches Vertes (Feuillet 1706 / Pat Shaw 1964) Longways duple minor 1s turn right once and a half; turn left once on the side 1s turn left once and a half; turn right once on the side 2s half figure eight up; circle left half, fall back 2s half figure eight down; all 2 hand turn partner half and fall back Hugh Stewart Cambridge, UK ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:31:23 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:24:51 -0400 From: Colin Hume <100116.165-AT- compuserve.com> Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Greensleeves and Yellow Lace To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <199809211827_MC2-5A32-6581-AT- compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Emma Rushton wrote: >> Speaking of Greensleeves and Yellow Lace, does anyone know the version >> which puts the first couple into 2nd place to do the fig 8s, hands 3s >> and heys? It' s much more satisfying than the version I have, in >> which 1st two couples set twice and cast down or lead up, then repeat >> all that to get home. It's repetitive and unsatisfactory, because >> 1st couple then have to start fig 8-ing round 2nd and 3rd couple from >> the top of the set. I quite agree with you, Emma. Here's the version you were probably thinking of - I called it at Bromyard Festival over the weekend. When are we going to see you back in England?! Colin Hume Green Sleeves and Yellow Lace 3 Couples longways 6 x Own tune (jig) A1: Ones set; cast, twos lead up. Same, threes lead up. A2: Twos the same. [Originally ones, twos, ones, twos.] B1: First man down, lady up: figure eight through this couple. B2: Ones cross: figure eight through the other couple. A3: Ones cross and circle with this couple 1 1/2 (12 steps) into lines across (ones in middle, ends improper); ones cross. A4: Same with other couple; ones cross left (think of it as passing through home position - if the ones cross right they may well go the wrong way into the reels of three), turn left: B3: Reels of three with this couple (pass left shoulder with opposite sex). B4: Ones cross: reel with others. [Reverse progression] John Young -- Dancing Master 17th Edition Volume 1, 1721. Douglas & Helen Kennedy - CDB New Series 1929 (modified). ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 04:23:17 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:22:56 +0100 From: Anthony Stone Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Greensleeves and Yellow Lace To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU CC: rushton-AT- biology.utah.edu (Emma Rushton) Message-ID: <9809221222.ZM18055-AT- fandango.ch.cam.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Emma Rushton wrote: > Speaking of Greensleeves and Yellow Lace, does anyone know the version > which puts the first couple into 2nd place to do the fig 8s, hands 3s and > heys? It' s much more satisfying than the version I have, in which 1st two > couples set twice and cast down or lead up, then repeat all that to get > home. It's repetitive and unsatisfactory, because 1st couple then have to > start fig 8-ing round 2nd and 3rd couple from the top of the set. > > I encountered the "fixed" version at a dance in Bedford (England) a few > years ago, but didn't write it down. Can anyone tell me how it goes. Hugh > - you were there, do you remember it? > > Emma >From memory (very unreliable) I think it went something like Top two couples set, top couple cast while middles lead up. Bottom two couples set, bottom couple cast up while middles lead down. All that again. This puts the couples in the order 3,1,2. -- Anthony Stone http://fandango.ch.cam.ac.uk/ University Chemical Laboratory, Email: ajs1-AT- cam.ac.uk Lensfield Road, Phone: +44 1223 336375 Cambridge CB2 1EW Fax: +44 1223 336362 ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 05:15:13 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 08:07:57 -0400 From: "Susan R. Murrow" <75272.730-AT- compuserve.com> Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Fond memories To: "INTERNET:ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.Stanford.EDU" Message-ID: <199809220811_MC2-5A24-F8B-AT- compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Country Dancers of Westchester (NY) plans to dedicate the following upcoming events to the fond memories of two much-loved gentlemen: Thanksgiving Dance, Friday, November 27, 1998 dedicated to Dick Forscher New Year's Eve, Thursday December 31, 1998 dedicated to Ed Helwig Both gentlemen have danced at CDW for most of the 24 years it has been in business. They have been a delight and an inspiration to everyone and their cheerful, fun-loving spirits are with us forever! Those who have memorabilia they would like to share are invited to contact Susan Murrow at 75272.730-AT- compuserve.com or phone (914) 762-8619 All are welcome to attend these special events! ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:46:34 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:47:38 -0400 From: "Mary K. Friday" Subject: Re: Kate's Hornpipe To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <3608614A.1F14-AT- erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT References: <35EF9948.4A62-AT- uia.ua.ac.be> Hi, Philippe! I've heard that you're planning a North American tour for the spring (April?) and have been meaning for weeks now to write to ask if there's any chance you can come through Baltimore and/or Washington. I understand you'll be in Canada (far from here) but also in Philadelphia (only about 3 hours by car [I do it all the time], easy train ride). We have weekly dances on Monday evenings in Baltimore and on Wednesdays in Washington. We could almost surely arrange for you to call at either or both of those series. It would also be feasible to arrange a special dance (instead or in addition), probably on a Saturday evening (Sunday afternoon might be possible, too, though the spring calendar gets clogged) that dancers from both areas might attend. Of course we would provide hospitality if you could come. If you're at all interested, I will, of course, coordinate with other organizers in the places you'll be visiting (I believe it's Tom Siess and Sam Rotenberg in the places I mentioned; if not, or if there are others, please let me know). This would be great fun! and very good exposure for our dancers. All my best to you, Mary Kay P.S. I've been teaching "La Gavre" from time to time. I still like it, and our local dancers have been receptive. ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:09:13 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:09:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "m.a.j. mckenna" Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: callens world tour? To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19980922225259.270f5e36-AT- pop.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT philippe, if you are planning a dancing/calling/teaching tour, will you post details? maryn =-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-= Maryn McKenna 734.973.8471 Knight Fellow in Medicine, University of Michigan Staff Writer, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution mmckenna-AT- mindspring.com mmckenna-AT- umich.edu =-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-= ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:08:05 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Return-Path: philippe.callens-AT- uia.ua.ac.be Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:07:21 +0200 From: Philippe Callens Subject: Spring tour To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <3608D669.10D6-AT- uia.ua.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT References: <35EF9948.4A62-AT- uia.ua.ac.be> <3608614A.1F14-AT- erols.com> Hi Mary Kay, Good to hear from you. Hope you hd a good summer; ours was quite dredful. Anyway, I will be making a tour next March/April. Here's the schedule: March 19-21: London, Ontario Playford Weekend Saturday March 27: workshop and evening dance in Boston Tuesday March 30: evening dance in NYC Thursday April 1 : evening dance in Philly (contra dance) Friday April 2: evening dance somewhere around Titusville (?) Saturday April 3: workshop and evening dance in Philly. Looks a bit busy, doesn't it? After the London weekend, I really want to have a quiet week: so traveling to the Washington/Baltimore is not an option. During the second week one extra evening dance may be not impossible, but would be quite hectic. Also, I have to fly home on Sunday April 4! Alternatively, you may want to fill up a car and attend the Philly Saturday workshop/dance. Let me know what you think. Regards, Philippe ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:09:21 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Return-Path: philippe.callens-AT- uia.ua.ac.be Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:08:54 +0200 From: Philippe Callens Subject: apologies To: ECD-AT- SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU CC: marykfriday-AT- erols.com Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Message-ID: <3608D6C6.47AA-AT- uia.ua.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Apologies for sending a message intended for May Kay Friday to this list. Philippe Callens ================================================================================ Archive-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:18:47 PST Sender: owner-ecd-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:14:33 +0100 From: Michael Barraclough Reply-To: ECD-AT- playford.slac.stanford.edu Subject: Re: More Tunes from Village Music To: eceilidh-AT- netservs.com, ECD-AT- PLAYFORD.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU Message-ID: <3608D819.8ED75154-AT- email.mot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT References: <01J1N1RQ38IO934ZOV-AT- SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> This message continues a thread in the (UK) eceilidh mail list and is being copied for info to the (US) ECD mail list. ===================================================================== Alan Winston - SSRL Ce